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[04:48:24] <sbryzak> clerum: ping
[04:48:47] <sbryzak> clerum: can you please try editing the mail module page now, and let me know if it still doesn't work
[04:55:11] <clerum> sbryzak: will do
[04:55:36] <clerum> looks like I have edit now
[04:55:37] <clerum> thanks
[04:59:47] <sbryzak> clerum: welcome :)
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[05:09:04] <clerum> sbryzak: not sure about the hudson stuff but appears that mail build runs fine normally
[05:09:10] <clerum> but hudson ci calls with -Pcode-coverage
[05:09:27] <clerum> and that fails with a bunch of these Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.vladium.emma.rt.RT
[05:09:40] <sbryzak> clerum: the hudson stuff will all be moving shortly i believe, so no problem there
[05:09:47] <sbryzak> the QE guys will get it fixed when it moves
[05:09:57] <clerum> k
[05:10:05] <clerum> works for me
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[06:30:49] <bleathem> clerum works long days!
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[06:58:23] <clerum> bleathem: yes, yes I do
[06:58:45] <clerum> trying to fit in the real work and the oss is a chore some days
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[12:15:55] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push develop b2800aa.. Shane Bryzak SEAMREMOTING-5
[12:15:57] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-5] Add messages support for Remoting [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-5
[12:15:57] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push develop d135716.. Shane Bryzak Merge branch 'develop' of github.com:seam/remoting into develop
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[12:45:03] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-5] Add messages support for Remoting [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-5
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[13:43:42] <gastaldi> hey all
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[13:55:47] <jose_freitas> hey gastaldi
[13:57:35] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: Hey !
[13:57:53] <gastaldi> damn, I am not having enough time to write that damn article
[13:58:19] <gastaldi> :(
[13:58:38] <jose_freitas> yeah, I'll focus my energy this weekend
[13:58:53] <gastaldi> Does anyone knows if Arquillian supports Weblogic ?
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[13:59:34] <gastaldi> hey antoine_sd !
[14:00:03] <jose_freitas> not for now gastaldi.
[14:00:08] <jose_freitas> afaik
[14:00:17] <gastaldi> damn
[14:00:19] <gastaldi> :P
[14:08:52] <gastaldi> what is the IRC channel for Arquillian ?
[14:15:25] <jose_freitas> #jbosstesting
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[14:18:04] <antoine_sd> he gastaldi
[14:18:33] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: thanks
[14:18:42] <gastaldi> hey antoine_sd ! Nice town you live in ! :)
[14:19:04] <antoine_sd> yes I find it ok :-)
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[14:19:50] <antoine_sd> If you come back I hope we'll manage to see each other
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[14:20:45] <gastaldi> sure, I hope so
[14:21:34] <gastaldi> man, that place where my hotel was located was WAY far from the fun part of Paris
[14:21:48] <antoine_sd> I didn't propose you 'cause it was your honey moon but I have a spare room
[14:22:02] <gastaldi> no problem.
[14:22:05] <antoine_sd> so if you ever come back...
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[14:22:45] <gastaldi> that Quartier Latin is awesome
[14:22:56] <gastaldi> Nice place
[14:23:01] <antoine_sd> quite nice isn't it
[14:23:21] 
[14:23:25] <antoine_sd> have you seen montmartre too ?
[14:23:32] <gastaldi> yeah
[14:23:38] 
[14:24:06] <antoine_sd> talking about Place du Tertre ?
[14:24:44] <gastaldi> let me check in the map
[14:26:16] 
[14:26:31] 
[14:26:42] <gastaldi> there are some artists painting
[14:27:00] <amitev> beware of Sacre-Coeur. there are black men that want to tie your finger :)
[14:27:07] <antoine_sd> that's it
[14:27:41] <gastaldi> Lapin Agile or something :P
[14:28:25] <antoine_sd> Agile Rabbit in english :-)
[14:28:32] <gastaldi> lol
[14:28:35] <gastaldi> I wish I knew how to speak french to communicate better
[14:28:44] <gastaldi> I took a cab that spoke no english at all
[14:29:06] <antoine_sd> french are not very good with foreign languages
[14:29:11] <jose_freitas> gastaldi: I remember antoine_sd saying that you might be better speaking portuguese
[14:29:33] <amitev> i personally had no problems using english in paris
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[14:29:35] <gastaldi> :P
[14:29:57] <gastaldi> amitev: Yeah, me neither, but try to get a cab :)
[14:30:13] <antoine_sd> you can ask your way to other tourists they speak english.
[14:30:13] <amitev> of course the hand gestures work quite well :)
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[14:30:24] <antoine_sd> hopefully they are a lot of them to help you
[14:30:25] <gastaldi> lol, sure it is
[14:30:35] <gastaldi> yeah, quite nice
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[14:31:05] <gastaldi> ok, brb
[14:31:07] <amitev> if you use the subway there are maps everywhere
[14:31:27] <antoine_sd> and the city is rather small
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[16:36:02] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master 1ebd8d6.. Jozef Hartinger upgrade arquillian ajocado to 1.0.0.CR2
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[17:37:19] <clerum> I need an opinion if anyone is around https://github.com/seam/mail/blob/develop/api/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/mail/api/MailMessage.java#L64
[17:37:49] <kenfinnigan> clerum: what kind of opinion ;-)
[17:38:00] <clerum> all my contact methods have a name and address method like to("cody", "cody at test dot com")
[17:38:24] <kenfinnigan> ok
[17:38:37] <clerum> but I'm hearing that some people may want more like a var args to()
[17:38:42] <clerum> that only takes address
[17:38:50] <clerum> since they are both strings I can't exactly have both
[17:39:06] <clerum> so it's either a var args method that allows multiple addresses
[17:39:15] <clerum> or stick with the name + address method
[17:39:52] <kenfinnigan> could you go with the varargs approach but support a parameterized string as an address?
[17:39:57] <clerum> you can always to to(new InternetAddress("cody at test dot com", "cody")
[17:40:05] <kenfinnigan> ie. to("cody:cody at test dot com")
[17:40:15] <kenfinnigan> and then if the first part is not present don't set a name?
[17:40:50] <clerum> thats an option...I guess I'm wondeirng where people are going to even use something like that other than static code
[17:41:43] <kenfinnigan> you could do it the way a lot of email apps do and have "cody<cody at test dot com>"
[17:42:29] <clerum> yeah I think I'm going to drop to("cody at test dot com", "cody")
[17:42:41] <clerum> and support cody<cody at test dot com>
[17:42:42] <kenfinnigan> i think it's valid to not force people into providing a name, while also having a simpler way to set an address other than to(new InternetAddress("cody at test dot com", "cody")
[17:43:01] <clerum> there is already public MailMessage to(String address);
[17:43:04] <kenfinnigan> ok cool
[17:43:09] <kenfinnigan> ah
[17:43:14] <clerum> and that can be modifed to accept "cody<cody at test dot com>"
[17:43:19] <clerum> or just cody at test dot com
[17:43:27] <kenfinnigan> i think that makes sense
[17:43:39] <clerum> no better time to break it than now
[17:43:41] <clerum> :-)
[17:43:43] <kenfinnigan> support a single string that can either be just the address, or name and address in the given format
[17:43:51] <clerum> right
[17:43:57] <clerum> and to can be var args then
[17:44:07] <kenfinnigan> yep
[17:44:18] <clerum> taking one or more strings that I can parse down to address or address+name
[17:44:28] <clerum> k thanks to talking that through with me
[17:44:34] <kenfinnigan> no prob
[17:44:42] <kenfinnigan> you could probably remove to(String)
[17:44:47] <kenfinnigan> and just have the varargs version
[17:45:00] <clerum> yep eactly
[17:45:07] <clerum> since the var args can take one or more
[17:45:11] <kenfinnigan> yep
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[18:58:31] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop a2ac418.. Cody Lerum implement varags contact methods
[18:58:32] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/mail/compare/af758a5...a2ac418
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[19:12:11] <jose_freitas> hey masters of cdi universe
[19:12:57] <jose_freitas> is it possible to inject private Class<T> clazz; in a public class Foobar<T> ?
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[19:28:55] <lincolnthree> jose_freitas: i wouldn't think so
[19:29:06] <lincolnthree> jose_freitas: it shouldn't even compile
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[19:32:35] <clerum> mail should be feature complete now
[19:32:44] <clerum> now just those pesky docs
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[19:33:03] <lincolnthree> clerum: NICE!
[19:33:05] <clerum> why can't forge write those for me?
[19:33:13] <lincolnthree> clerum: it can, you just won't like them
[19:33:19] <lincolnthree> 110101010010100101010111
[19:33:23] <clerum> :-)
[19:33:27] <kenfinnigan> you mean you don't have a team of monkeys at the ready?
[19:33:29] <clerum> silly forge
[19:33:33] <kenfinnigan> eventually they'll write good docs
[19:33:44] <lincolnthree> kenfinnigan: no, i don't think they will
[19:33:49] <clerum> too much upkeep on the monkeys
[19:34:07] <clerum> taking care of one dog is enough for me
[19:34:20] <jose_freitas> congrats clerum!
[19:34:46] <clerum> only a year behind schedule
[19:34:52] <clerum> in the software world that isn't too bad
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[20:02:20] <jose_freitas> lincolnthree: it does compile. but it cannot inject =(
[20:02:53] <lincolnthree> jose_freitas: is it a nested class?
[20:03:12] <lincolnthree> i dont see how it would compile otherwise
[20:03:29] <jose_freitas> nope
[20:04:02] <jose_freitas> what I really needed is to access T.class
[20:04:27] <jose_freitas> inside a super class that's SuperClass<T>
[20:04:48] <jose_freitas> but since this is not possible. I was trying to find a workaround
[20:05:10] <jose_freitas> I needed T.class to pass create a TypedQuery
[20:06:05] <lincolnthree> that sounds way over-architected :)
[20:06:14] <lincolnthree> what is this for?
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[20:09:33] <jose_freitas> I wanted to create a generic data model for a datatable
[20:09:58] <lincolnthree> jose_freitas: ah
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[20:10:19] <lincolnthree> that could take some engineering
[20:12:19] <jose_freitas> yeah
[20:13:09] <jose_freitas> the idea was to inherit an abstract genericDataModel and just implement a method like getQueryString
[20:13:43] <jose_freitas> (basically)
[20:13:46] <gastaldi> sbryzak: ping
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[20:42:09] <maxiphone> Jbug done!
[20:42:18] <maxiphone> Doh wrong channel :)
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[20:51:57] <jbossbot> git [core] push master a5c2630.. Lincoln Baxter, III Forge boots with scaffold, but does not generate :(
[20:51:57] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/8d9f0e1...a5c2630
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[21:16:17] <bleathem> is there an IRC channel for Bean Validation
[21:16:21] <bleathem> anyone know?
[21:17:30] <clerum> not that I know
[21:17:40] <clerum> hibernate guys are probably closer to it
[21:19:32] <bleathem> just tried asking over there
[21:19:50] <clerum> sometimes they take a while to respond
[21:19:50] <bleathem> do you know much about BV clerum?
[21:19:53] <clerum> I have seen hours
[21:20:01] <clerum> bleathem: not a thing
[21:20:08] <bleathem> bummer
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[21:20:22] <bleathem> I think I've resolved RF-11531 as an upstream issue
[21:20:24] <jbossbot> jira [RF-11531] Client side validation: regexp ignores whitespace at the beginning [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RF-11531
[21:20:28] <bleathem> but I want to check to be sure
[21:20:41] <bleathem> docs aren't all that helpful
[21:22:30] <clerum> shouldn't that pass if it's a regex?
[21:22:48] <clerum> only shouldn't if it has a ^[a-z].*
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[21:28:18] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 6036da4.. Lincoln Baxter, III Fix broken pom file
[21:28:18] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/a5c2630...6036da4
[21:30:39] <clerum> bleathem: maybe I'm missing something there
[21:31:11] <bleathem> clerum: right, it passes client side, but not server side
[21:31:26] <bleathem> I just added a commit, with two options as I see it
[21:31:32] <bleathem> 2) file an upstream bug
[21:31:39] <bleathem> 1) prepend a ^ to regexp patterns
[21:31:51] <bleathem> I'm not sure if the BV guys are assuming a ^
[21:31:54] <edburns> Anyone here use Greenhopper?
[21:31:55] <bleathem> to get an exact match
[21:32:03] <kenfinnigan> edburns: I've used it
[21:32:22] <edburns> I'm trying to find out which version of Greenhopper they've installed on java.net.
[21:32:29] <edburns> I can't find the damn about box.
[21:32:30] <clerum> I would thing neither should be adding a "^"
[21:32:33] <clerum> that just seems wrong
[21:32:37] <bleathem> for me too
[21:32:39] <edburns> Is there some way to tell what version I'm running?
[21:32:43] <edburns> no-one on atlassiandev is answering.
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[21:34:05] <kenfinnigan> am just taking a look on issues.jboss.org as they also have greenhopper
[21:34:12] <kenfinnigan> doesn't appear to be an obvious way to see
[21:34:14] <edburns> kenfinnigan: thanks for your time.
[21:34:26] <kenfinnigan> it may only be from a sys admin perspective that you can see the version
[21:34:46] 
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[21:34:54] <clerum> of this page  - https://issues.jboss.org/secure/VersionBoard.jspa
[21:35:06] <clerum> thats the only place I see
[21:35:15] <edburns> clerum: In my case, I just have "Atlassion JIRA (v4.0.2 #472)
[21:35:30] <clerum> only shows on the jboss site if you are on the agile tab
[21:35:33] <clerum> dunno if that helps
[21:35:41] <edburns> No mention of Greenhopper, but we definitely have it, because I'm working with the index cards and all that Greenhopper stuff.
[21:36:06] <clerum> might also be versioned in the source
[21:36:25] <clerum> I see some of the css files that are pulled down have 5.7.1 in them
[21:36:41] <edburns> clerum: That's a great idea.
[21:36:43] <edburns> I'll use firebug.
[21:36:47] <clerum> if you inspect the cards
[21:37:24] <clerum> href="/s/en_US-ohcldu/660/6/5.7.1/_/download/resources/com.pyxis.greenhopper.jira for example
[21:37:32] <clerum> good luck
[21:39:00] <edburns> clerum: THANKS.  It appears to be 4.3.2.
[21:39:07] <edburns> What a nice idea you had there.
[21:39:27] <clerum> edburns: no problem. thanks for composite components...they rock
[21:40:30] <edburns> clerum: I'm very glad to hear that.  The expert group and I certainly put a lot of effort and care into that feature, but wait til you see multi-templating and page flows in JSF 2.2.
[21:40:55] <edburns> Imagine being able to compose a JSF app by grabbing app modules from a maven repo!
[21:41:06] <clerum> awesome
[21:41:23] <edburns> "I'll take the shopping cart widget thingy from here, the catalog browser from here..." etc.
[21:41:36] <jose_freitas> that would be great
[21:42:04] <clerum> slick yeah I have to think people are writing a lot of duplicate composites so a way to publish and share would be great
[21:48:19] <dabloem> edburns, is there any info about multi-templating already?
[21:49:08] <edburns> Yes, please see Mamadou Lamine Ba's blog on java.net.
[21:49:10] <edburns> Here is a link.
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[21:49:59] <edburns> http://www.java.net/blog/lamineba/archive/2011/08/28/multi-templating-jsf-2-prototype
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[22:01:41] <jbossbot> git [core] push master f9a69d5.. Lincoln Baxter, III fixed assembly plugin version
[22:01:41] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/6036da4...f9a69d5
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[22:04:38] <clerum> the default flushmode auto being gone is also going to be a big change for seam 2 users
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[22:07:39] <gastaldi> are we having seam meeting today ??
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[22:13:27] <clerum> gastaldi: haven't heard
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[22:56:12] <jbossbot> git [core] push master cc20fc1.. Lincoln Baxter, III New forge build +JavaParser, old forge build works
[22:56:12] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/f9a69d5...cc20fc1
[23:02:32] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: you there ?
[23:02:39] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 1d10916.. Lincoln Baxter, III FacesPlugin no longer installs CDI
[23:02:39] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/cc20fc1...1d10916
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[23:10:23] <kenfinnigan> is there a meeting today?
[23:10:40] <clerum> kenfinnigan: not looking like it
[23:12:44] <lincolnthree> kenfinnigan: not sure, havent seen sbryzak around yet
[23:12:55] <kenfinnigan> ok
[23:13:05] <kenfinnigan> jason doesn't appear to be around either
[23:16:16] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 3b5105c.. Lincoln Baxter, III Merge pull request #64 from bleathem/master...
[23:16:16] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/1d10916...3b5105c
[23:18:26] <gastaldi> can anyone join TeamSpeak server ?
[23:18:38] <gastaldi> I need to check if my mic is allright :P
[23:19:52] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 0674476.. Lincoln Baxter, III error pages and welcome page are now part of quickstart
[23:19:52] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/3b5105c...0674476
[23:23:58] <sbryzak> i don't think we had any topics for this week's meeting
[23:24:26] <kenfinnigan> ok, i guess we probably will after the .Next calls over the following days
[23:24:45] <sbryzak> i'd say so
[23:24:55] <kenfinnigan> ok cool
[23:25:00] <kenfinnigan> in that case
[23:25:03] <kenfinnigan> catch everyone later
[23:25:11] <sbryzak> cya ken :)
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[23:51:30] <clerum> sbryzak: I renamed the CR1 release in jira for mail to Beta4
[23:51:44] <clerum> and created a new CR1
[23:51:47] <sbryzak> clerum: thanks
[23:51:51] <clerum> I suppose we will want to do that everywhere
[23:51:54] <sbryzak> that will make my life a little easier ;)
[23:51:59] <clerum> np
[23:52:02] <sbryzak> yep i'll be doing it for the other modules
[23:52:42] <clerum> also as I add more doc modules to mail do I need to be updating the bundled dist?
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[23:53:36] <clerum> or how does that work?
[23:53:57] <clerum> right now it just includes the intro
[23:53:59] <clerum> https://github.com/seam/dist/blob/master/docs/src/main/docbook/en-US/bundled_master.xml#L93
[23:54:19] <clerum> should I just fire a pull req?
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[23:56:38] <clerum> sbryzak: ^
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