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[00:39:52] <gastaldi> anyone here ever used bitbucket ?
[00:40:31] <gastaldi> sounds like a nice alternative to Github, as it allows free unlimited private repositories
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[01:28:41] <clerum> when is the Beta4 release going to close?
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[14:00:56] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop 3a6adbc.. Marek Schmidt SEAMREST-53 testsuite structure update
[14:00:57] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREST-53] testsuite structure update [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Marek Schmidt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREST-53
[14:00:57] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop 678b02a.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #11 from maschmid/SEAMREST-53...
[14:00:57] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/bf7de2a...678b02a
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[15:02:01] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 00ad0bb.. Marek Schmidt SEAMSECURITY-119 update testsuite structure
[15:02:01] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMSECURITY-119] testsuite structure update [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Marek Schmidt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMSECURITY-119
[15:02:02] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop e6f228b.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #36 from maschmid/SEAMSECURITY-119...
[15:02:02] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/a8cf08f...e6f228b
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[17:39:22] <clerum> when I go to import the solder logging
[17:39:27] <clerum> eclipse is giving me two options
[17:39:34] <clerum> org.jboss.solder.logging.Logger and org.jboss.solder.logging.Logger.internal
[17:39:40] <clerum> where is the .internal coming from...
[17:39:51] <kenfinnigan> Logger.internal is the older version from Solder
[17:40:03] <kenfinnigan> which version of Solder are you using?
[17:40:07] <clerum> beta3
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[17:40:20] <clerum> check my deps once more
[17:40:23] <kenfinnigan> I don't think the internal package name should be there in Beta3
[17:40:34] <clerum> yeah that was my concern
[17:40:39] <clerum> as it's confusing
[17:41:06] <maschmid> kenfinnigan: isn't that the shaded jboss logging classes?
[17:41:12] <clerum> everything solder related is beta3
[17:41:49] <kenfinnigan> yes it is
[17:42:03] <kenfinnigan> that's weird, pretty sure internal isn't there anymore
[17:42:12] <kenfinnigan> but it has been a couple of weeks since I've looked closely
[17:43:07] <clerum> the .internal package
[17:43:18] <clerum> is the only package in the solder-logging jar
[17:43:19] <kenfinnigan> ah ok, now I remember
[17:43:29] <kenfinnigan> .internal is the rebadged JBoss Logging
[17:43:43] <kenfinnigan> so in your app you want to use org.jboss.solder.logging.Logger
[17:43:55] <kenfinnigan> which in turn uses the .internal one inside it
[17:44:17] <kenfinnigan> all very confusing
[17:44:25] <clerum> yeah
[17:44:33] <clerum> any better way to hanle that?
[17:44:38] <clerum> handle that
[17:44:48] <kenfinnigan> unfortunately not as we're including JBoss Logging directly as opposed to as a dep
[17:45:05] <clerum> so two classes aren't named Logger in the org.jboss.solder.logging hierarchy
[17:45:06] <clerum> k
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[17:45:38] <clerum> org.jboss.solder.logging.dontUse :-)
[17:45:51] <kenfinnigan> I think the only thing we could do is rename the Logger class that Solder exposes, but then I think that would confuse Devs
[17:46:16] <kenfinnigan> that was why it had the internal name on the package, to signify it shouldn't be used outside Solder
[17:46:46] <clerum> right
[17:46:57] <maschmid> kenfinnigan: I think the "internal" should be discouraging enough not to use it :)
[17:47:09] <kenfinnigan> you would hope, but not always the case
[17:47:47] <clerum> it's just that they are both in the same heiharcy when you are clicking through eclipse and it's easy to snag the wrong one when you aren't paying close attention
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[17:47:58] <clerum> but something to just document
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[17:49:06] <clerum> so that is good
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[19:26:30] <clerum> what if anything is anyone using as a replacement for seamtext?
[19:27:30] <clerum> seems like http://code.google.com/p/markdownj/ could be a fit?
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[21:51:44] <bleathem> what's the best way to check if the elements in two collections are equal?
[21:51:55] <bleathem> Does google collections have something for this?
[21:53:55] <clerum> containsAll
[21:54:06] <clerum> one option on a set
[21:57:27] <Diablo-D3> heh, I wonder why they just didnt add .equals
[21:58:53] <bleathem> clerum: thanks!
[21:59:28] <clerum> checking to see if guava has something that works on other collection types because now I'm curious
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[22:01:18] <bleathem> hmm... that won't check that they have the same order
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[22:01:51] <clerum> only if it's a sorted set :-)
[22:01:53] <bleathem> ah
[22:01:58] <bleathem> List has an equals method
[22:02:19] 
[22:02:32] <clerum> perfect
[22:08:04] <bleathem> funny - java has me trained to *not* look in the most obvious spot for such things
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[22:12:36] <Diablo-D3> LOL
[22:12:48] <Diablo-D3> so I was right?!
[22:16:59] <jose_freitas> lol bleathem! I wouldn't use equals either
[22:17:21] <jose_freitas> just as you, I would look for a collection library to do that
[22:17:51] <jose_freitas> funny thing to notice about.
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[23:21:29] <jbossbot> git [validation] push develop 79dbe15.. Marek Schmidt SEAMVALIDATE-24 testsuite update, AS7 profile
[23:21:30] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMVALIDATE-24] testsuite structure update [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Marek Schmidt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMVALIDATE-24
[23:21:30] <jbossbot> git [validation] push develop e938685.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #16 from maschmid/SEAMVALIDATE-24...
[23:21:30] <jbossbot> git [validation] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/validation/compare/5e3ab63...e938685
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