[00:00:19] <mojavelinux> from our collective experience running the Seam project, and from many other experiences before that, we can say that Maven is really holding us back for how efficiently we can develop
[00:00:35] <mojavelinux> gradle will also make productization simpler, even though they don't know that yet :)
[00:00:52] <mojavelinux> we just lose so much time fighting with Maven and honestly, you'd see that with Gradle, we wouldn't have these battles
[00:01:17] <mojavelinux> so it's worth exploring...worst case, we find out it isn't better and we still have the maven builds, but we believe it's time to at least give it a go
[00:01:23] <lightguard_jp> Yes, there have been quite a few times we've not done something, or tried to create work arounds because of maven
[00:02:58] <lightguard_jp> questions?
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[00:04:42] <lightguard_jp> I think that wraps it up then
[00:04:45] <lightguard_jp> Thanks everyone
[00:04:51] <sbryzak> if anyone has any questions/thoughts about anything we've discussed today, please bring it up on seam-dev
[00:04:58] <lightguard_jp> I know some of us will be around for those who read the minutes / log latter and have questions
[00:05:50] <mojavelinux> remember, we value your feedback tremendously...please feel free to be a part of the discussion
[00:06:08] <lightguard_jp> #endmeeting
[00:06:23] *** jbott changes topic to "Seam 3.0.0.Final has been released! Development discussions for Seam (seamframework.org). Join #seam for user discussions.  See http://seamframework.org/Seam3/Chat for logs and more info.  TeamSpeak 3 server is available for Seam devs at 216.6.228.98:10024, password: seam-dev"
[00:06:23] <jbott> Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 22:03:01 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
[00:06:23] <jbott> Minutes:        http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/seam-dev/2011/seam-dev.2011-09-21-21.03.html
[00:06:23] <jbott> Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/seam-dev/2011/seam-dev.2011-09-21-21.03.txt
[00:06:23] <jbott> Log:            http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/seam-dev/2011/seam-dev.2011-09-21-21.03.log.html
[00:06:43] <hannelita> Gonna read the log later :)
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[00:08:55] <mojavelinux> thanks hanneli
[00:14:06] <ssachtleben> why does Mail still just have one tag? it works really great I have already send like 100 emails with it
[00:14:21] <ssachtleben> it could be already part of the seam bundle
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[00:15:23] <clerum> ssachtleben: because I'm a horrible person
[00:15:27] <clerum> :-)
[00:16:18] <ssachtleben> well you dont tag the modules aren't you?
[00:16:43] <ssachtleben> and it send out the emails so it works like it should :D
[00:17:02] <clerum> unfortuantly the module structure is really screwed up at the moment
[00:17:20] <clerum> and needs one of the maven gurus to give it some TLC
[00:17:30] <mojavelinux> the mail module has been victim of some communication problems, and that's really our fault...cody has been asking, we haven't been timely in responding
[00:17:58] <clerum> also a victem of cody's lack of free time unfortuantly...however I finally have an app that needs it
[00:18:14] <clerum> so that allows me to devote non-free time
[00:18:37] <mojavelinux> woooooooooooooooooooooot!
[00:19:26] <ssachtleben> yeah but the module structure is the same as on the time where the other modules were 3.0.0-Beta1
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[00:19:54] <ssachtleben> so even if it changed later it would be nice to give it out to the community
[00:20:44] <clerum> the best we could do would be to tag it from about 10 commits back. but I think it makes more sense for me to hound some people and see if we can't get it sorted out by the end of the week
[00:21:02] <clerum> the good news is it's getting a lot of visibility now so it should be hiding in the shadows anymore
[00:21:14] <clerum> I think everyone is aware of it's neglect
[00:21:26] <ssachtleben> I think if you just have 1 tag and say Mail Module is not ready - no one will use it and you wont get help by the community
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[00:23:10] <ssachtleben> if it gets 3.1.0-Beta3 on the next tag round and get released the community will start using it and help develop
[00:23:37] <clerum> I think that is the plan
[00:25:17] <ssachtleben> and for me if I miss something on the Mail Module then it is some sending state and maybe a retry handler if smtp is down
[00:25:31] <ssachtleben> the send mail itself is perfect
[00:26:06] <clerum> ssachtleben: yes some type of queue is something I'm interested in adding
[00:26:27] <ssachtleben> I thought already about hotfolder technic to set infront of the mailsender
[00:27:39] <clerum> basically I want to generate the mime message and have it all ready to go and leverage it's existing serializablity
[00:27:47] <hannelita> hi guys! sorry for not participating on the discussion
[00:27:53] <clerum> so you could write it to server disk on shutdown
[00:28:00] <ssachtleben> my app generates a zip file in a hotfolder and a cronjob checks this folder periodly and try to send the mail if it works move file to success otherwise to error folder and then a retry handler would be easy possible
[00:28:08] <clerum> ah
[00:28:29] <hannelita> lightguard_jp: still there? :)
[00:29:00] <lightguard_jp> yes
[00:29:55] <hannelita> lightguard_jp: you were talking about an "app store" for examples
[00:30:15] <hannelita> really, I think that something VERY useful would be a place like http://seamframework.org/Seam3/examples
[00:31:03] <hannelita> with hello worlds apps examples + for dummies guides and some more complex apps
[00:31:07] <lightguard_jp> jharting: still here?
[00:31:15] <lightguard_jp> hannelita: right
[00:31:40] <jharting> lightguard_jp: yes
[00:31:51] <mojavelinux> yep, we are on the same page, except it will be something more like jboss.org/examples
[00:31:53] <mojavelinux> :)
[00:32:23] <hannelita> mojavelinux: sure, I just gave a sample url :)
[00:32:34] <mojavelinux> :)
[00:33:58] <lightguard_jp> jharting: If you need to restructure the wiki pages for migration, that's fine
[00:36:18] <jharting> lightguard_jp: ok
[00:36:31] <jharting> lightguard_jp: I am going to work on that this weekend
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[01:24:46] <bleathem> mojavelinux: are you assigning me work! ')
[01:24:48] <bleathem> ')
[01:24:50] <bleathem> ;)
[01:24:57] * bleathem smiley #fail
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[01:29:14] <mojavelinux> sorry bleathem, we just discovered a major migration issue
[01:29:26] <mojavelinux> I was under the false impression that EL was fixed properly in EE 6
[01:29:32] <mojavelinux> turns out, it's worse than not fixed
[01:29:36] <mojavelinux> it's actually a regression
[01:30:12] <mojavelinux> the fix shouldn't be too ugly
[01:30:22] <mojavelinux> it's just a matter of adding a hack into JSF
[01:30:58] <mojavelinux> the static methods are the more important of the two
[01:31:02] <mojavelinux> check out what cody has to do right now
[01:31:09] <mojavelinux> https://gist.github.com/24ba3522ddc5540ecdcb
[01:40:15] <clerum> fixing those should keep most people sane moving their seam 2 apps to ee6
[01:40:57] <clerum> gotta run bbl
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[01:45:10] <gastaldi> Hey all !
[01:45:18] <gastaldi> Hey mojavelinux
[01:45:41] <gastaldi> Nice discussion on that saf thread
[01:46:02] <lightguard_jp> One of the things I love about our community.
[01:46:08] <lightguard_jp> Great discussion happens all the time
[01:46:11] <gastaldi> Yup
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[01:47:06] <gastaldi> Is it true that solder is a separate project now fron seam ?
[01:47:16] <gastaldi> Fron
[01:47:20] <mojavelinux> yep, it always wanted to be different :)
[01:47:21] <lightguard_jp> Will be
[01:47:30] <gastaldi> Cool
[01:47:30] <lightguard_jp> Not everything is in place yet
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[01:48:16] <gastaldi> The sub packages could be renamed also
[01:48:33] <gastaldi> Like serviceHandler
[01:48:47] <gastaldi> To lowercase
[01:50:03] <gastaldi> Ahhh crap I missed the meeting :(
[01:50:08] <gastaldi> Again
[01:50:20] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: np, that's why we log it :)
[01:50:32] <gastaldi> Totally forgot it
[01:50:43] <gastaldi> :)
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[01:51:33] <gastaldi> Any luck on that voicing task ?
[01:51:45] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: It's on my todo list
[01:51:51] <gastaldi> Ok
[01:52:34] <lightguard_jp> Gotta look up the commands for chanserv to do it
[01:52:36] <mojavelinux> when cody gets back, perhaps you can double check whether static methods work?
[01:52:43] <lightguard_jp> mojavelinux: Good idea
[01:52:50] <mojavelinux> no argument methods will still be a problem, per SEAMFACES-208
[01:52:51] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-208] Support for resolving no argument methods in an EL value expression [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-208
[01:53:02] <mojavelinux> but I think that static methods with at least one argument should work if on a named bean
[01:53:11] <mojavelinux> I think that SEAMFACES-198 is still work some docs
[01:53:12] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-198] If a user fails an authorization check when using the Seam Security hooks via ViewConfig there is no way to add a message [Resolved (Done) Enhancement, Major, Jason Porter] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-198
[01:53:15] <mojavelinux> oops
[01:53:25] <mojavelinux> SEAMFACES-189
[01:53:26] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-189] Enhanced EL Support [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Brian Leathem] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-189
[01:53:27] <mojavelinux> dislexia
[01:54:15] <mojavelinux> okay, I gotta move on to other tasks...hopefully that's enough info to at least make some decisions
[01:54:20] <mojavelinux> stupid EL, why can't it just be decent
[01:54:37] <mojavelinux> glad that xwidgets has mvel :)
[01:54:50] <mojavelinux> if it doesn't, it will after mike is done with it
[01:54:53] <lightguard_jp> Yeah wish mvel was an EL impl
[01:55:11] <mojavelinux> I think fixing the EL api is just like fixing the JMS api
[01:55:13] <mojavelinux> just start over
[01:55:28] <lightguard_jp> How can we hack up the EL and not provide an impl? Are there hooks to do some of this via extensions?
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[01:57:28] <clerum> mojavelinux: you are saying static methods work?
[01:59:45] <mojavelinux> they do for me, on AS 7, I can't see how it would be different in AS 6
[01:59:52] <mojavelinux> I know it didn't work at one point, but they should work now
[02:00:05] <mojavelinux> yes, there are hooks
[02:00:13] <mojavelinux> can register a property resolver
[02:00:19] <mojavelinux> as I explained to cody, in the seam 2 days
[02:00:21] <mojavelinux> we had two problems
[02:00:29] <mojavelinux> first, the facelets parser would now allow the use of ()
[02:00:40] <mojavelinux> so we needed a whole parser impl just to add that support
[02:00:42] <mojavelinux> that's fixed
[02:00:56] <mojavelinux> the second problem is that the use of () is not honored (execute arbitrary method)
[02:01:10] <mojavelinux> that was speced incorrectly, so now we have to solve that problem again
[02:02:37] <lightguard_jp> Ah
[02:02:41] <lightguard_jp> Wonderful
[02:03:13] <mojavelinux> it's honored only if you have at least one parameter
[02:03:29] <mojavelinux> the only issue is that we may not know whether the () is there or not
[02:03:44] <mojavelinux> I don't know if it provides that information to us
[02:03:57] <mojavelinux> meaning, how do we know if they typed
[02:04:07] <mojavelinux> .xyz
[02:04:09] <mojavelinux> or .xyz()
[02:04:14] <mojavelinux> in both cases, params is empty
[02:04:19] <mojavelinux> but they mean different things
[02:04:25] <mojavelinux> I don't know, that is going to have to be researched
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[02:06:26] <lightguard_jp> I'm not involved with the EL EG, but I hope they get it right this time
[02:08:38] <mojavelinux> okay, so statics do work
[02:08:39] <mojavelinux> that's good
[02:08:49] <mojavelinux> it's really just SEAMFACES-208 that's an issue
[02:08:50] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-208] Support for resolving no argument methods in an EL value expression [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-208
[02:08:54] <mojavelinux> that's were all the confusion is going to happen
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[02:22:32] <edburns> mojavelinux: Dan! What's new?
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[03:33:19] <bleathem> mojavelinux: yikes!
[03:33:30] <bleathem> mojavelinux: this'll be good to get fixed
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[03:38:25] <kenfinnigan> mojavelinux lightguard_jp sorry I missed the meeting guys
[03:38:36] <kenfinnigan> I've read the logs so know the gist
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[05:08:11] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop e1569d1.. Marek Schmidt yet another testsuite structure
[05:08:11] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 27acd03.. Ken Finnigan rebase Ken's testsuite updates, moved unit tests back to impl/
[05:08:11] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 72b9cc6.. Marek Schmidt add Glasssfish profiles, glassfish-remote currently doesn't work due to ARQ-543
[05:08:12] <jbossbot> jira [ARQ-543] CDI injection into testcase does not work on GlassFish [Resolved (Done) Bug, Blocker, Aslak Knutsen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-543
[05:08:13] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop a08cb62.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #49 from maschmid/testsuite-update-2...
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[09:12:40] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 9bb6170.. LightGuard Fixing up the tests to run with the new structure
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[09:15:19] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop e2a482d.. Lincoln Baxter, III Added Stack Exchange Provider
[09:15:19] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 91b712c.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #30 from lincolnthree/develop...
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[09:16:32] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 61ff296.. Shane Bryzak Merge pull request #31 from maschmid/fixexamples...
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[09:44:17] <nickarls> lightguard_jp: pingety-pong
[09:44:26] <lightguard_jp> nickarls: Yes?
[09:45:20] <nickarls> catch/jsf question: do you know if you can redirect in a handler if the call comes from EL?
[09:45:38] <nickarls> I have a case where EL results in a producer method call
[09:45:47] <nickarls> and that call causes an exception which hits the handler
[09:46:10] <nickarls> but the same redirect that would work if the exception call came from the application phase now does nothing special
[09:46:21] <nickarls> is the render view phase too late?
[09:47:13] <lightguard_jp> Yes
[09:47:20] <lightguard_jp> If you're in RENDER_VIEW you're hosed
[09:48:01] <lightguard_jp> We need to see if there's something we can do, but I doubt it because JSF is streaming the content to the client and you can't issue a redirect once anything has been sent to the client
[09:48:06] <nickarls> thought so. which is not that nice since there's plenty of opportunities to go astray in that phase, too
[09:48:10] <lightguard_jp> There may be some work arounds, but we'd have to research
[09:48:25] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, I know, been bitten quite a bit by that.
[09:52:04] <nickarls> you would have to pull the bytes back from the outputstream
[09:52:24] <nickarls> well, if it would be manually-flush then you could at least reset it and generate a auto-redirect page
[09:52:25] <lightguard_jp> I don't think that's possible
[09:52:49] <nickarls> yes, once the client reads them it's a point of no return
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[10:48:09] <nickarls> sbryzak (or someone else): did the security/faces integration require any special interceptors enabled?
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[11:18:28] <nickarls> hmm, looking at the SecurityPhaseListener in faces
[11:19:54] <nickarls> The auth is marked as failed correctly and picked up by the phase listener but there is http://pastebin.com/VwFwFjbA where it should redirect
[11:20:16] <nickarls> and then it happily proceeds to show the deined page
[11:21:31] <nickarls> and I don't see where it comes from since I just go to the page directly
[11:22:15] <nickarls> in any case it should at least die and not show the page, JIRA time
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[20:11:36] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 5d38b5b.. Lincoln Baxter, III SEAMFORGE-257
[20:11:38] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFORGE-257] Add ability to alias commands (like bash) [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Lincoln Baxter III] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-257
[20:11:38] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/5ec7eb9...5d38b5b
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[20:29:36] <jbossbot> git [core] push master c80e433.. Lincoln Baxter, III Added FSH tests for Mike
[20:29:36] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/5d38b5b...c80e433
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[20:33:15] <lightguard_jp> clerum: Are you around?
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[21:21:24] <lightguard_jp> clerum: question(s) for you when you get a minute.
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[21:33:32] <jose_freitas> hey dan
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[21:49:00] <ssachtleben> anyone a idea here? http://seamframework.org/Community/BestPractisesForMinimizingMemoryFootprint
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[21:50:27] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: huh?
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[21:51:52] <ssachtleben> just think about if you want to push openshift these questions shouldn't be unanswered
[21:53:12] <clerum> lightguard_jp:ping
[21:53:16] <clerum> I'm here
[21:57:50] <clerum> switching to laptop...back in a min
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[22:05:47] <ssachtleben> ah does mod_cluster have a irc chan?
[22:07:00] <lightguard_jp> PRobably
[22:07:05] <lightguard_jp> I didn't see that question
[22:07:11] <lightguard_jp> I'll have to look at it
[22:08:07] <lightguard_jp> clerum: If you wouldn't mind sending an email to the group or maybe just to Shane and myself with what we need to do to help you with Mail, if it's maven, docs, something else we'll get on that and be sure to help out :)
[22:08:14] <lightguard_jp> clerum: Sorry about the delays
[22:08:29] <clerum> will do
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[22:08:34] <clerum> I'll send something out shortly
[22:09:55] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: Not sure on that one, we'll have to dig
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[22:11:57] <gastaldi> hey all !!
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[22:12:50] <ssachtleben> lightguard_jp, ok I have no clue neither thats why I pop it up here
[22:13:02] <ssachtleben> hey gastaldi
[22:13:56] <ssachtleben> but my application uses also arround 80 mb permgen space
[22:14:11] <ssachtleben> but I dont care my jboss has 2gb ram and 512mb perm gen space :D
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[22:14:44] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: Right, and I'm not sure why it's running out in openshift
[22:14:57] <lightguard_jp> oh, read it wrong
[22:15:12] <gastaldi> hey ssachtleben, lightguard_jp, jose_freitas
[22:15:19] <ssachtleben> openshift seems limited
[22:15:20] <lightguard_jp> We may need to talk to the openshift guys
[22:17:40] <ssachtleben> JBoss Community Profile and tab size 4 is correct or?
[22:18:11] <ssachtleben> my new code doesnt match on the ConversationBoundaryInterceptor the tabs didnt fit in the code :/
[22:18:41] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: four spaces, yep
[22:19:00] <jamezp> ssachtleben: spaces > tabs :-)
[22:19:26] <ssachtleben> yeah ok dunno I copied and it made 7 spaces
[22:20:51] <jose_freitas> hey gastaldi
[22:21:08] <ssachtleben> and there are log messages like this:
[22:21:08] <ssachtleben> log.debugf("Began conversation: (#0) before method: (#1.#2(...))", new Object[]{conversation.getId(),
[22:21:08] <ssachtleben>                 ctx.getMethod().getDeclaringClass().getName(), ctx.getMethod().getName()});
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[22:21:20] <ssachtleben> but the logging doesnt replace the patterns
[22:21:48] <ssachtleben> getting this in console: Began conversation: (#0) before method: (#1.#2(...))
[22:21:49] <jamezp> That's not a valid pattern.
[22:22:28] 
[22:22:37] <gastaldi> {0} ?
[22:23:03] <jamezp> Better yet, use the string format pattern. It's much easier to use and read :-)
[22:23:25] <gastaldi> $1%s ?
[22:23:25] <ssachtleben> ok should be another jiira and commit after my changes
[22:23:51] <jamezp> In this case just %s
[22:23:54] <ssachtleben> maybe its on more classes in Seam Faces didnt checked yet
[22:24:11] <jamezp> Only time you need to number them is if you want to use the same parameter in multiple places.
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[22:27:57] <ssachtleben> I really start to like git
[22:28:21] <ssachtleben> they should offer other payment methods then credit card :( I have no one yet
[22:28:41] <jamezp> Good, don't ever get one. They're evil!
[22:29:19] <ssachtleben> yeah I know :)
[22:29:27] <gastaldi> lol
[22:29:29] <gastaldi> yeah
[22:29:38] <ssachtleben> I could have one but I don't want to have
[22:29:40] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: I think paypal is supported
[22:29:44] <ssachtleben> nope
[22:29:53] <gastaldi> oh, then not :)
[22:29:56] <ssachtleben> at least not before 3 days where I checked
[22:30:14] 
[22:30:15] <ssachtleben> you have to add credit card in order to get private repo :(
[22:33:01] <gastaldi> lincolnthree: ping
[22:33:09] <gastaldi> SEAMFORGE-198 seems to be jline a bug
[22:33:10] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFORGE-198] NPE when holding CTRL + arrow [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-198
[22:33:18] <gastaldi> A jline bug
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[22:36:41] <ssachtleben> haha the seam forum has the same bug as mine forum :D
[22:37:12] <ssachtleben> if you view a topic but dont properly log out it will be marked as new on the next login ^^
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[23:06:38] <gastaldi> lincolnthree: Bug confirmed
[23:06:59] <gastaldi> lincolnthree: The jLine version in Forge is bugged :P
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[23:10:21] <clerum> what irc client does everyone use on a mac?
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[23:23:01] <bleathem> clerum: I hear good things about Adium
[23:23:07] <bleathem> clerum: but I'm not on a mac
[23:23:11] <bleathem> ping ssachtleben
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[23:37:04] <ssachtleben> pong bleathem
[23:37:19] <bleathem> hey ssachtleben - I got your pull request
[23:37:38] <bleathem> does this mean you managed to figure out what was going on with the interceptors, and the injection of the current conversation?
[23:37:56] <ssachtleben> yeah it was a stupid mistake on my side
[23:38:05] <bleathem> ah
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[23:38:23] <bleathem> sounds like something that might benefit from documentation!?
[23:38:37] <bleathem> ^better documentation (on the part of Seam Faces)
[23:38:49] <ssachtleben> I have used h:link instead of h:commandButton without conversation param ;)
[23:39:04] <bleathem> ok
[23:39:27] <ssachtleben> sorry about taking your and clerum's time about that :(
[23:39:37] <bleathem> no worries!
[23:39:53] <bleathem> cool, so the solution in your pull request is to just document the fact that the conversation is already long running
[23:39:55] <bleathem> I like that
[23:40:17] <bleathem> I can't think of a use case where you would want to fail if the conversation was already long-running
[23:40:25] <ssachtleben> true
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[23:40:41] <jbossbot> git [faces] push develop 49e5709.. Sebastian SEAMFACES-207: No exception on @Begin if conversation is already long running.
[23:40:42] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-207] @Begin should probably not throw exceptions if conversation is already long running [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-207
[23:40:42] <jbossbot> git [faces] push develop eef2097.. Brian Leathem Merge pull request #54 from ssachtleben/master...
[23:40:42] <jbossbot> git [faces] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/faces/compare/7cafa74...eef2097
[23:41:13] <bleathem> SEAMFACES-207
[23:41:14] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-207] @Begin should probably not throw exceptions if conversation is already long running [Resolved (Done) Feature Request, Major, Sebastian Sachtleben] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-207
[23:41:26] <bleathem> cool - thanks for the contribution ssachtleben!
[23:41:30] <ssachtleben> np
[23:41:51] <ssachtleben> I would take some more stuff but I have to move in a new city end of next week
[23:42:00] <ssachtleben> so I'm a bit busy the next time
[23:42:21] <ssachtleben> but once I get back internet in my new flat I will go on and help :)
[23:42:29] <bleathem> yikes - that sounds like a lot of work.  Moving sucks!
[23:42:48] <bleathem> right on, your contributions are very much appreciated!
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[23:42:52] <ssachtleben> yeah I have to paint both flats :(
[23:43:38] <ssachtleben> I hope to be back in mid of next month
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[23:51:52] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: ping
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