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[00:48:37] <gastaldi> hey all
[00:50:45] <hannelit_> hey gastaldi
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[04:38:18] <gastaldi> hey PeteRoyle
[04:38:28] <gastaldi> Is Seam Cron ready to be used on Production ?
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[12:53:12] <nickarls> sfwk.org down again. fortunately it usually only happens on days ending with a "y"
[12:56:11] <maschmid> nickarls: It will probably work ok on Christmas Eve, then...
[12:57:00] <nickarls> only in 2011. the world goes NPE at 21.12.2012...
[13:04:01] <nickarls> what is the @Current mentioned in 7.7.2 of http://docs.jboss.org/seam/3/faces/latest/reference/en-US/html/viewconfig.html ? Is the the pre-at-inject?
[13:04:53] <nickarls> or is it just an example of any qualifer?
[13:08:19] <maschmid> nickarls: that's just an example... see examples/viewconfig/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/faces/examples/viewconfig/security/SecurityRules.java
[13:08:48] <maschmid> (in seam faces)
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[13:29:47] <nickarls> hmm, why does my authorize method return false but I still get to see the page?
[13:30:04] <nickarls> is there some interceptor etc thas has to be enabled to use faces/security integration?
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[13:36:53] <nickarls> if I debug, I see an exception thrown and observers looking but it must gets lost somewhere...
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[13:43:18] <maschmid> nickarls: it should work with just having both seam-security and seam-faces (and their dependencies) there... works for me with the faces-viewconfig example with seam 3.1.0 beta2 (after adding missing seam-transactional dependencncy and a workaround for SOLDER-119)
[13:43:19] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-119] CNFE org.jboss.logmanager.Logger$AttachmentKey on AS7 [Resolved (Done) Bug, Blocker, Ken Finnigan] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-119
[13:44:52] <nickarls> hmm, have to see that some exceptionhandler isn't too eager.
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[14:47:42] <kenfinnigan> sbryzak_: ping
[14:47:49] <sbryzak_> kenfinnigan: pong
[14:47:55] <kenfinnigan> quick question
[14:48:14] <kenfinnigan> saw the other day that Marek had changed the solder testsuite to remove internals
[14:48:21] <kenfinnigan> is that the approach we're taking now?
[14:48:43] <kenfinnigan> and if we want to add perf or stress testing later we go back to what it was and re add internals?
[14:48:49] <sbryzak_> yes, although we'll be reviewing the testsuite structure either today or tomorrow
[14:48:54] <sbryzak_> so it's not final yet
[14:49:04] <kenfinnigan> oh ok, I won't go crazy on it yet then
[14:49:10] <kenfinnigan> how's the f2f going?
[14:49:26] <sbryzak_> kenfinnigan: could you summarise the requirements for perf and stress testing?
[14:49:40] <kenfinnigan> at this stage I don't believe there are any
[14:49:42] <sbryzak_> if you could put it in an email, then i can ensure we discuss it
[14:49:54] <kenfinnigan> it was more to say if we wanted to add them, there was a place for it
[14:49:57] <sbryzak_> from a configuration perspective though, what is needed for it?
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[14:50:23] <kenfinnigan> thought it would not be a configuration difference, but possibly different tests to stress the module further
[14:50:30] <kenfinnigan> than the regular testsuite would
[14:50:38] <sbryzak_> ah i see
[14:50:53] <sbryzak_> we can possibly achieve it through profiles
[14:50:59] <kenfinnigan> as the current tests are mostly mickey mouse and not super real world like
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[14:51:15] <sbryzak> understood
[14:51:26] <sbryzak> ok i'll make sure we take it into account when we discuss the testsuite
[14:51:31] <kenfinnigan> use profiles to activate/deactivate a test package you mean?
[14:51:41] <sbryzak> yes, if we can make that work
[14:51:41] <kenfinnigan> ok thanks
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[15:05:05] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop aecdc30.. Shane Bryzak SEAMSECURITY-102
[15:05:06] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMSECURITY-102] IdentityRoleName should be an optional entity for Identity Management [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMSECURITY-102
[15:05:07] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/1339263...aecdc30
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[16:31:30] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop d7659ef.. Shane Bryzak support annotation-based configuration of JpaIdentityStore entity classes
[16:31:30] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/aecdc30...d7659ef
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[16:52:56] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 842640d.. Shane Bryzak actually enable the extension, update idmconsole example to use the new annotations
[16:52:56] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/d7659ef...842640d
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[16:55:04] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop 6525ea3.. Marek Schmidt quick tests fix
[16:55:04] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop 753c345.. codylerum Merge pull request #11 from maschmid/testsuite-update...
[16:55:04] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/mail/compare/b060bee...753c345
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[17:08:52] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 5231d6c.. Shane Bryzak SEAMSECURITY-101
[17:08:53] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMSECURITY-101] Move SecurityInterceptor to root org.jboss.seam.security.* package [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMSECURITY-101
[17:08:53] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/842640d...5231d6c
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[17:21:32] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 08e2b31.. Shane Bryzak updated docs to describe how to configure security interceptor
[17:21:32] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/5231d6c...08e2b31
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[18:21:01] <ssachtleben> hi
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[18:22:38] <ssachtleben> clerum, did the commit fix the CDIVelocityContext?
[18:25:18] <clerum> checking in a few
[18:25:26] <clerum> all updates that definitily needed to happen
[18:25:46] <clerum> that logging switch has hit me a lot in other apps
[18:26:29] <ssachtleben> hehe me too, I had to change 240 classes :D
[18:27:04] <clerum> I'm migrating a seam 2 app right now and I'm suprised how little is acutally involved
[18:27:27] <clerum> I expected more pain :-)
[18:27:39] <ssachtleben> yeah but only for basic stuff
[18:27:50] <ssachtleben> try to get excel and pdf export working like on seam 2 hf :P
[18:28:00] <ssachtleben> or nested conversations
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[18:28:23] <clerum> I imgrated both those away to straitght java and I'm much happier
[18:28:28] <clerum> excel and pdf
[18:28:41] <clerum> much easier to maintain during refactors
[18:28:57] <ssachtleben> I have a really shit bug in my forum (deleted posts appear as new in new posts list) I really hope to get mail fixed soon for an update
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[18:29:13] <clerum> of course I wrote a lot of convienence code to make it nicer and a wrapper over basically every itext object to make it fluent
[18:29:22] <ssachtleben> I dunno about that this weld dependency bug otherwise I would fork and fix myself
[18:30:22] <clerum> ssachtleben: thats a mail issue? sounds like a hibernate issue
[18:30:33] <clerum> jpa anyway
[18:30:59] <ssachtleben> nope I mean I have a fix but I cant update because Mail Module is broken and I used that on several places
[18:31:09] <clerum> oh i see
[18:31:11] <ssachtleben> register mail, forgot password mail, several notify mails
[18:32:36] <clerum> not a great week to get things resolved with the paid guys in their meetings
[18:36:38] <ssachtleben> yeah
[18:36:41] <ssachtleben> I know
[18:37:03] <ssachtleben> but Mail and Cron are a must have for enterprice applications
[18:37:15] <ssachtleben> I can't understand why they are not in 3.1.0
[18:37:21] <ssachtleben> they should be even in 3.0.0
[18:37:25] <clerum> cron is one I'm going to need in about a week
[18:37:34] <ssachtleben> you can't build a full application without them
[18:37:59] <ssachtleben> cron trigger will not run again on republish
[18:38:06] <ssachtleben> its not usable in development
[18:38:19] <ssachtleben> I throw it out for now and veto'ed all my cronjobs
[18:39:16] <clerum> mail stalled because I ran out of time the module fell behind and nobody pushed it foward
[18:39:29] <clerum> now it's fallen way behind with all the solder changes and test structure changes
[18:39:50] <clerum> and I still have very little time....maybe  enough to finish the docs and what not
[18:40:07] <clerum> but not enough to figure out how the module structure and maven work
[18:40:11] <ssachtleben> yeah but it worked fine with Alpha1 even if its not perfect
[18:40:37] <clerum> yep thats where it went off the rails with the solder changes
[18:41:14] <clerum> just needs someone really farmilar with arquillian and the build structure to give it an hour
[18:41:48] <ssachtleben> I would go for it but I have no idea about these things neither
[18:42:17] <clerum> I've only been working with mvn for about 3 months
[18:42:25] <clerum> so I'm way over my head
[18:42:47] <ssachtleben> yeah but should be mostly the same as other modules or?
[18:42:54] <clerum> should be
[18:43:09] <clerum> but I don't know which is even the gold standard to copy from
[18:43:25] <clerum> things are still such a moving target
[18:43:44] <ssachtleben> ye
[18:44:03] <clerum> the price you pay for early adoption
[18:44:20] <clerum> I imagine things will be quite solid in 6 months or so
[18:44:33] <ssachtleben> hopefully
[18:49:54] <clerum> same for AS7
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[19:02:30] <maxandersen> pmuir: boing
[19:03:13] <maxandersen> pmuir: make me happy and show http://docs.jboss.org/tools/whatsnew/cdi/cdi-news-3.3.0.M3.html to the CDI guys in the room at some point.
[19:04:21] <maxandersen> pmuir: especially the solder stuff should make people happy (I hope) and interested in ensuring their extensions are "good citizens" :)
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[19:48:25] <gastaldi> hey
[19:48:43] <gastaldi> Does Seam Faces have a Captcha feature ?
[19:49:28] <gastaldi> or in another module ?
[19:49:42] <jamezp> Doesn't RichFaces have one?
[19:50:34] <gastaldi> not that I know of
[19:51:25] <gastaldi> Well, is Seam Faces the appropriate module to contain that feature ?
[19:52:26] <jamezp> I don't actually know what Seam Faces is used for :-)
[19:52:32] * jamezp should really know that.
[19:52:43] <gastaldi> :)
[19:52:53] <ssachtleben> hi gastaldi
[19:52:58] <ssachtleben> nope both not
[19:53:00] <gastaldi> hey ssachtleben
[19:53:06] <ssachtleben> I think primefaces has one
[19:53:08] <gastaldi> SEAMFACES-203
[19:53:09] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-203] Provide Captcha feature [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-203
[19:54:03] <jamezp> gastaldi: http://javahunter.wordpress.com/2010/09/25/integrating-captcha-in-jsf-2-0/
[19:55:34] <gastaldi> jamezp: thanks ! Added to the JIRA issue :)
[19:55:42] <hannelita> hey all
[19:55:57] <ssachtleben> the impl is very easy but making a nice image sucks :P
[19:56:10] <ssachtleben> I hate drawing with java
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[19:56:21] <hannelita> anyone using IdentityEntity.java annotation from security module? :)
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[19:56:29] <ssachtleben> mhmm... could be copied from seam 2
[19:56:46] <ssachtleben> hey hannelita no sorry
[19:57:33] <hannelita> hey ssachtleben :) thanks... is it on Beta2? I update my project poms todays and I cant use it
[19:57:53] <hannelita> ping sbryzak
[19:58:04] <sbryzak> hannelita: pong
[19:58:25] <hannelita> the annotation IdentityEntity.java... is it at Beta2?
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[19:58:38] <sbryzak> hannelita: wow, i just committed that class a couple of hours ago
[19:58:45] <sbryzak> you're using bleeding edge code ;)
[19:58:54] <hannelita> I mean, I thought I could use that already
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[19:59:09] <hannelita> hmm...
[19:59:16] <sbryzak> it's intended to eliminate the need to configure your jpa entites for identity management in the config file
[19:59:22] <sbryzak> sure, you can use it straight away
[19:59:26] <sbryzak> you just need to build it locally
[19:59:33] <hannelita> yeah, I did that
[19:59:35] <sbryzak> and then use 3.1.0-SNAPSHOT in your project
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[20:00:09] <hannelita> git pull at security project and then build locally
[20:00:15] <sbryzak> yes
[20:00:39] <hannelita> maven might be crazy...
[20:00:52] <hannelita> thanks anyway, sbryzak :)
[20:01:05] <sbryzak> let me know if you can't get it working and i'll help out
[20:01:44] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: Yes, copying from Seam 2 is the basic idea :)
[20:04:37] <hannelita> sbryzak: Thanks :)
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[20:36:03] <ssachtleben> didn't used seam 2 captcha s:graphicImage?
[20:36:43] <ssachtleben> i think its not possible with casual h:graphicImage without byte array output
[20:37:23] <clerum> from seam 2
[20:37:23] <clerum> <h:graphicImage value="/seam/resource/captcha?f=#{currentDate.time}"/>
[20:37:37] <gastaldi> wow
[20:37:51] <gastaldi> hum
[20:38:01] <ssachtleben> ah ok
[20:38:18] <gastaldi> yeah, I used that way too
[20:38:22] <ssachtleben> then should be easy going
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[20:57:09] <hannelita> I hate maven :(
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[21:10:59] <hannelita> sbryzak: ping... I cant even deploy the idm console on AS 7 *cries*
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[21:36:58] <ssachtleben> nickarls, did you fix your viewconfig problem?
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[22:28:20] <sbryzak> hannelita: sorry, just got your message now
[22:28:25] <sbryzak> what's the as7 issue?
[22:31:23] <hannelita> sbryzak: It takes some exceptions, but deploys
[22:31:43] <hannelita> sbryzak: my bad, I havent seen that besides the exceptions, the app works
[22:31:46] <sbryzak> hannelita: was it a prettyfaces exception? i got that, but the app still worked
[22:32:04] <hannelita> sbryzak: yeah, havent seen, sorry about that
[22:32:15] <sbryzak> no problem, i'll try to get it fixed in the near future
[22:34:54] <hannelita> sbryzak: Btw, I had to do a big workaround here to see it working... Crazy maven... after building locally, I had to do this at my pom.xml to have these new changes working http://pastie.org/2533747
[22:35:35] <sbryzak> ah yes, because the seam-security-api version would come from the seam-bom
[22:35:39] <sbryzak> you don't need the exclusion though
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[22:39:01] <hannelita> sbryzak: I got some time until i realize that I had to do that... #Fail
[22:39:35] <sbryzak> that's my fault... beta2 has problems
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[23:19:04] <ssachtleben> clerum, Seam Mail example has 6 errors in develop branch?
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[23:24:07] <ssachtleben> but nice the CDIVelocityContext error is gone if I build with excluded example in pom.xml :)
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