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[02:57:23] <jbossbot> git [international] push develop dd2de37.. Sebastian Merge branch 'develop' of https://github.com/seam/international into develop
[02:57:23] <jbossbot> git [international] push develop f4747a9.. Sebastian SEAMINTL-55 (Feature Request) - Added detail text for messages
[02:57:24] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMINTL-55] Support summary and details text for messages [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Ken Finnigan] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMINTL-55
[02:57:24] <jbossbot> git [international] push develop 83d244f.. Ken Finnigan Merge pull request #18 from ssachtleben/develop...
[02:57:24] <jbossbot> git [international] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/international/compare/0b400ee...83d244f
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[03:29:58] <gastaldi> hey
[03:38:40] <stuartdouglas> It's probably going to be pretty quiet in here this week, everyone is in Toronto for the f2f meeting
[03:48:10] <gastaldi> ah yeah
[03:48:13] <gastaldi> Damn :(
[04:02:26] <gastaldi> stuartdouglas: When is AS 7.0.2 planned to ?
[04:03:22] <stuartdouglas> The 16th
[04:03:25] <stuartdouglas> so a few more days
[04:03:33] <gastaldi> cool
[04:03:54] <stuartdouglas> It will (hopefully) be the last of the 7.0 releases
[04:06:33] <gastaldi> cool, then EAP will come next ?
[04:06:39] <gastaldi> With 7.1
[04:08:24] <stuartdouglas> yes
[04:08:34] <gastaldi> excellent
[04:08:58] <stuartdouglas> 7.1 is due late november
[04:09:10] <stuartdouglas> EAP in late feb
[04:09:29] <gastaldi> nice
[04:09:53] <gastaldi> Will the preview version still exist ?
[04:10:05] <gastaldi> the preview config I mean
[04:11:06] <stuartdouglas> nope
[04:11:28] <stuartdouglas> AFAIK after 7.0.2 preview will be renamed standalone.xml
[04:11:40] <stuartdouglas> and the existing standalone config will go
[04:11:59] <gastaldi> good
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[05:42:21] <gastaldi> hey hannelita
[05:42:28] <hannelita> hey gastaldi :)
[05:42:58] <gastaldi> how was qcon ?
[05:43:20] <hannelita> man... was REALLY REALLY cool
[05:43:23] <hannelita> :)
[05:43:36] <gastaldi> nice
[05:43:57] <hannelita> very nice talks
[05:43:58] <hannelita> :)
[05:44:03] <gastaldi> i can imagine that
[05:44:50] <hannelita> I mean, high lvl tech talks, very cool info
[05:45:24] <hannelita> ppl from Nasa, jruby, neo4j and so many other nice projects :P
[05:45:38] <gastaldi> wow
[05:45:42] <hannelita> next year we could have someone from Seam, huh? would be really nice!
[05:46:33] <gastaldi> yeah, really nice ;)
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[16:34:31] <tttom> Hi readed the article about class loading from: https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/AS7/Class+Loading+in+AS7
[16:35:06] <tttom> i wan
[16:38:45] <tttom> i want to deploy the jboss-as-kitchensink.war example to as7 but remove the solder from lib directory of the war file. Another think is, that i do not wan't to install the solder as an as7 module but deploy it on the same level like the kitchen web app. The question is, how can i add this dependency if both files are deployed?
[16:40:49] <tttom> so both files jboss-as-kitchensink.war and seam-solder-3.0.0.Final.jar should be installed in the standalone/deployments/ folder and see each other.
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[16:42:13] <tttom> in the article the way showed is to install the solder into modules folder and deklare it as an dependency in the manifest file (MF). But this is not, what i want
[16:44:23] <clerum> tttom: might try #jboss
[16:44:43] <tttom> yes, wrong chanel :-(
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[17:12:51] <ssachtleben> hi
[17:19:25] <ssachtleben> I start to hate JBoss Tools
[17:19:52] <ssachtleben> its not possible to have Seam Module and example project in same workspace
[17:21:15] <ssachtleben> Seam Faces gives me SecurityException, Seam International gives me "can't read MANIFEST.MF"
[17:21:23] <clerum> hmm
[17:21:27] <clerum> haven't seen that before
[17:21:32] <ssachtleben> if I remove all Seam Modules from workspace my project works fine
[17:21:47] <clerum> are they referencing eachother?
[17:22:07] <ssachtleben> well if I import Seam Faces for example
[17:23:00] <ssachtleben> my project recognize that Seam Faces dependency is the same as the Seame Faces project and auto reference it as Maven Dependency project
[17:23:24] <ssachtleben> its not set as project reference (I tried but doesn't change the error)
[17:24:11] <ssachtleben> I had referenced Seam International to my project earlier this year with JBoss 6 and older JBoss Tools
[17:24:44] <ssachtleben> I really want to support you guys more but I cant really progress without possibility to test with examples and debug through the Seam Module
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[17:39:02] <edburns> pmuir: Hello Pete.  Are you here?
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[17:46:07] <ssachtleben> sbryzak, ping
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[17:56:25] <pmuir> edburns: hi
[17:58:43] <edburns> pmuir: Hey, as you probably know, we have this annotation scanning SPI in Mojarra that lets mojarra interact with the container to do annotation stuff.
[17:58:55] <edburns> pmuir: Do you recall the existence of such an SPI?
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[18:24:06] <pmuir> edburns: sorry
[18:24:15] <pmuir> edburns: yes i do
[18:24:17] <pmuir> (in meeting)
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[18:41:57] <edburns> pmuir: No problem.  Well, I just published a snapshot jar containing what seems to be the minimum set of classes for such a feature, and I'd appreciate your review of it with a view towards an informal standard for such things.
[18:42:18] <edburns> pmuir: Visit http://maven.java.net/ and search for jsf-spi.
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[19:20:15] <clerum> I really missing being able to call static methods from EL
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[20:36:02] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 8182fb3.. Shane Bryzak set field accessible
[20:36:02] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/1e722dd...8182fb3
[20:36:21] <jbossbot> git [xwidgets] push master ea00720.. Shane Bryzak retrieve attributes using AttributesManager
[20:36:22] <jbossbot> git [xwidgets] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/xwidgets/compare/94c511b...ea00720
[20:38:14] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 76ae077.. Shane Bryzak completed implementation of openid/idm attribute mapping
[20:38:14] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 47c308c.. Shane Bryzak allow for control of IdentitySession creation outside of scope
[20:38:14] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 1339263.. Shane Bryzak Merge branch 'develop' of github.com:seam/security into develop
[20:38:14] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/ef72700...1339263
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[20:39:31] <jbossbot> git [university] push master 92c87bc.. Shane Bryzak stop eclipse from bitching
[20:39:31] <jbossbot> git [university] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/university/compare/3eea7fb...92c87bc
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[21:50:19] <gastaldi> hey
[21:55:03] <clerum> gastaldi: **crickets**
[21:57:21] <gastaldi> lol
[21:59:06] <gastaldi> Have anyone seen this ? http://pastie.org/2522696
[21:59:52] <jose_freitas> nope
[21:59:57] <ssachtleben> no
[22:00:06] <gastaldi> I am trying to create a composite component
[22:00:15] <gastaldi> But it gives me this damn error :(
[22:00:25] <gastaldi> I tried with all current JSF versions
[22:01:43] <jose_freitas> I had a lot of problems with composite components
[22:01:52] <jose_freitas> they're just not ready yet.
[22:02:24] <gastaldi> Yeah, I can see that :P
[22:02:30] <gastaldi> crap :(
[22:03:26] <ssachtleben> well I split alot of layout in composite
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[22:03:48] <ssachtleben> works tight for casual things
[22:04:45] <ssachtleben> gastaldi jose_freitas you ever had a project and a depending Seam Module in same workspace?
[22:05:12] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: I think so, why ?
[22:05:33] <kenfinnigan> I have
[22:05:41] <ssachtleben> I have a project which uses 3.1.0-SNAPSHOT of all Seam Modules
[22:05:44] <ssachtleben> hey kenfinnigan
[22:05:49] <kenfinnigan> hey ssachtleben
[22:05:51] <ssachtleben> it works great
[22:06:04] <kenfinnigan> thanks for the messaging pull request
[22:06:18] <ssachtleben> but as soon I add Seam Faces as project in eclipse I get SecurityException on my project
[22:06:35] <kenfinnigan> on compile?
[22:06:54] <ssachtleben> and if I add International Module I get "Can't read MANIFEST.MF from Seam-International-api.jar"
[22:07:02] <kenfinnigan> what's your IDE?
[22:07:09] <ssachtleben> no on start of my project on JBoss AS 7
[22:07:19] <ssachtleben> if I remove Seam Modules the start works fine
[22:07:24] <ssachtleben> Eclipse
[22:07:29] <ssachtleben> newest JBoss Tools
[22:07:43] <kenfinnigan> you might need to disable M2E workspace resolution for your application module
[22:07:54] <kenfinnigan> I know I've had problems with eclipse doing things differently to Maven
[22:07:57] <ssachtleben> oh that sounds good
[22:08:11] <ssachtleben> I see if I add Seam Module I dont have the jar anymore in Maven Dependencies
[22:08:16] <kenfinnigan> then your project will pick up the maven dep from the repo instead of your workspace
[22:08:25] <ssachtleben> Eclipse add the Seam Project automatically
[22:08:35] <kenfinnigan> the m2e plugin does
[22:08:39] <ssachtleben> Seam Module*
[22:09:13] <ssachtleben> ah that runs me crazy lately because I had to debug threw message api by stacktrace and variables :D
[22:09:22] <kenfinnigan> if you select your eclipse project that contains your application code
[22:09:36] <kenfinnigan> then do right click -> Maven -> Disable workspace resolution
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[22:10:23] <gastaldi> ahhh I had this issue now I remember
[22:10:39] <gastaldi> I had to do that to fix it
[22:11:46] <kenfinnigan> ssachtleben: did that fix it?
[22:11:58] <ssachtleben> looks great still JAR files as Maven Dependencies
[22:12:02] <ssachtleben> I try to deploy now
[22:12:24] <kenfinnigan> cool
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[22:13:02] <ssachtleben> omg it works kenfinnigan thank you so much :)
[22:13:08] <kenfinnigan> my pleasure
[22:13:15] <kenfinnigan> the m2e plugin can be evil sometimes
[22:13:17] <ssachtleben> now I can go and help you guys on some issues
[22:13:21] <kenfinnigan> you just need to know how to tame it
[22:13:46] <kenfinnigan> catch everyone later
[22:13:47] <ssachtleben> I thought it was JBoss Tools :D
[22:13:57] <ssachtleben> bye and thanks again
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[22:15:55] <ssachtleben> Now I just need to fix these sometimes occuring syncronize issues with the JBoss AS 7 and everything would be perfect
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[22:41:30] <clerum> has anyone come up with a nice s:decorate replacement for seam 3
[22:45:38] <jose_freitas> I believe that the answer for that is no
[22:46:08] <jose_freitas> btw clerum, did you manage to develop the s:debug?
[22:46:24] <clerum> nope
[22:48:18] <clerum> I really need to finish getting mail released before taking on something new :-)
[22:48:29] <jose_freitas> indeed
[22:48:34] <jose_freitas> a lot of people waiting for that
[22:49:01] <clerum> unfortunatly it's stalled until someone can get the test structure fixed
[22:50:31] <jose_freitas> hmm
[22:50:43] <jose_freitas> what's the issue with the test structure?
[22:50:58] <clerum> stopped working with the upgrade to arquillian
[22:51:18] <clerum> and it needs to brought into sync with the other modules
[22:51:25] <jose_freitas> hmm
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