September 3, 2011  
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[00:14:00] <sbryzak> geez that guy on the seam forums is argumentative, he would prefer to debate trivialities with me rather than try what i suggested to fix his issue...
[00:14:30] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Which one was that?
[00:14:38] <sbryzak> http://seamframework.org/Community/Seam3InTomcat7#comment167306
[00:15:17] <lightguard_jp> I'm a little peeved that my sticky got hijacked like that.
[00:15:21] <sbryzak> i haven't even closed the issue in case my suggestion doesn't work
[00:15:32] <sbryzak> i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he won't even try it
[00:15:53] <sbryzak> yeah he should have started a new thread
[00:16:00] <sbryzak> at least you're getting exposure ;)
[00:16:39] <sbryzak> lightguard_jp: btw, i'm thinking of making the security action classes abstract, and forcing the user to implement them if they want them
[00:16:56] <sbryzak> that way i don't have to configure the transaction interceptor in seam-security-impl, what do you think?
[00:20:56] <lightguard_jp> That will be a breaking change (if anyone's using them) but probably not a bad thing.
[00:21:36] <lightguard_jp> I think it makes a lot of sense to tightly couple modules where it makes the most sense, but better I think is to give the users the whole lego set and let them assemble where it makes the most sense.
[00:22:21] <lightguard_jp> I can always hope that will help users understand how to do things better
[00:22:54] <lightguard_jp> If users understood better they wouldn't be relying so much on us feeding them solutions.
[00:23:57] <sbryzak> yeah, and it will encourage them to customize the actions also
[00:24:08] <sbryzak> true, it will be breaking, but we've already broken stuff anyway
[00:24:23] <sbryzak> i'm hoping i don't miss out any of the details of what we broke in the release notes
[00:24:30] <sbryzak> i should start writing it all down
[00:25:36] <sbryzak> the seam 3 forum definitely gets a lot more activity than seam 2 now
[00:26:25] <lightguard_jp> I bet
[00:26:45] <lightguard_jp> There 17 new posts when I looked today
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[00:27:12] <lightguard_jp> I probably go through around 50 a week, maybe more.
[00:27:28] <lightguard_jp> Glad it's not too much more.
[00:27:56] <sbryzak> do we actually have a spring module yet?
[00:28:45] <sbryzak> Marius is coming to the f2f right?  we can discuss it with him then
[00:29:43] <lightguard_jp> he's working on it
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[09:09:53] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 7b8c00c.. Richard Kennard SEAMFORGE-286...
[09:09:54] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFORGE-286] Upgrade to Metawidget 1.30 [Open (Unresolved) Library Upgrade, Major, Richard Kennard] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-286
[09:09:54] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 2be1eae.. Lincoln Baxter, III Merge pull request #50 from kennardconsulting/master...
[09:09:54] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/105ed37...2be1eae
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[14:02:26] <jbossbot> git [university] push master 25517fd.. Shane Bryzak support for content metadata, minor model refactoring
[14:02:26] <jbossbot> git [university] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/university/compare/ffa4509...25517fd
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[14:25:02] <jbossbot> git [university] push master a98a12d.. Shane Bryzak minor improvement to search
[14:25:02] <jbossbot> git [university] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/university/compare/25517fd...a98a12d
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[16:09:06] <jbossbot> git [university] push master 559fef1.. Shane Bryzak added search box to header, used some clever scripting to implement
[16:09:06] <jbossbot> git [university] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/university/compare/a98a12d...559fef1
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