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[03:12:36] <gastaldi> hey
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[05:02:47] <clerum> If I have a conversation scoped bean that I produced is there a way I can null that out so it is reproduced?
[05:06:31] <clerum> hmm maybe @Unwraps is what I'm looking for
[05:14:49] <clerum> yep unwraps...awesome
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[05:36:22] <gastaldi> yo bleathem ! Have you decided which todo app to use ?
[05:44:11] <bleathem> lol- you might find this funny
[05:44:23] <bleathem> I created a todist task to check out toodledo
[05:44:32] <bleathem> it's a next action
[05:44:43] <bleathem> gastaldi: ^^
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[05:52:58] <gastaldi> HEHEH
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[06:06:47] <Bunbury> what is gastaldi?
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[06:24:46] <bleathem> "what is gastaldi?" <-- we've been asking the same question for months!
[06:25:12] <bleathem> some kind of code-writing CDI machine is the best answer I've come up with so far
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[06:38:51] <clerum> bleathem: any idea where I can find the tag reference for rich:notify?
[06:39:20] <bleathem> we haven't posted the docs for M!
[06:39:22] <bleathem> M1
[06:39:31] <clerum> gottcha
[06:39:49] <clerum> acutally eclipse seens to have it in the rich.taglib.xml
[06:39:56] <clerum> but just not auto linking it for complete
[06:39:57] <clerum> odd
[06:39:57] <bleathem> if you look at the AbstractNotifyComponent Class
[06:40:13] <bleathem> hmm
[06:40:17] <bleathem> it should
[06:40:23] <bleathem> it does for the other components
[06:40:44] <clerum> yeah it does for others
[06:40:49] <clerum> maybe eclipse is caching something
[06:40:57] <clerum> though I've been on M1 for a few days now...hmm
[06:41:10] <clerum> wanting to use it as replacement for global messages
[06:41:30] <bleathem> nice!
[06:41:36] <bleathem> glad it's getting used!
[06:42:27] <clerum> well no clue how to link it though
[06:42:28] <clerum> hmm
[06:43:32] <clerum> growl in primefaces has a global only tag
[06:43:51] <clerum> not clear if rich:notify integrates with h:messages as a replacement
[06:43:57] <clerum> as it does in primefaces
[06:49:11] <gastaldi> lol
[06:49:21] <clerum> hmm not clear from dev-examples either
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[07:01:58] <gastaldi> ok, gotta sleep now
[07:02:00] <gastaldi> see ya
[07:02:42] <gastaldi> ** crickets**
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[07:19:57] <bleathem> clerum: did you see Lukas' blog on Notify?
[07:21:13] <bleathem> clerum: nermind, it was on Editor, not Notify
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[07:32:15] <clerum> ah
[07:32:24] <clerum> if you see anything on it send it my way
[07:32:50] <bleathem> there is a huge forum post on it
[07:32:58] <bleathem> from when Bernando first demonstrated it
[07:33:05] <bleathem> I think it's in the devloper forums
[07:33:41] <bleathem> clerum: http://community.jboss.org/thread/150938?tstart=0
[07:33:44] <bleathem> 62 replies
[07:33:52] <bleathem> there has to be some information in there somewhere!
[07:34:03] <bleathem> I know Lukas changed some of the attributes
[07:34:37] <clerum> ahha
[07:34:42] <clerum> ah ha
[07:34:47] <clerum> rich:notifyMessages
[07:35:54] <clerum> thats what I was looking for
[07:35:55] <clerum> thanks
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[08:33:39] <Bunbury> dear I ask for a recommendation of primefaces or richfaces
[08:33:45] <Bunbury> which is better overall?
[08:34:13] <bleathem> Bunbury, it depends on your requirements
[08:34:18] <bleathem> what are you looking for?
[08:34:40] <Bunbury> line of business stuff
[08:34:47] <bleathem> Bunbury: they have very different focuses
[08:35:18] <Bunbury> what are those
[08:35:54] <bleathem> RichFaces has things like the CDK for developing custom components, ClientSide validation
[08:36:41] <bleathem> PrimeFaces offers a lot of sexy components that Richfaces doesn't have
[08:36:47] <Bunbury> ah
[08:37:08] <bleathem> Ideally, it's a goal of the RichFaces project to supprt interoperability of the component suites
[08:37:15] <bleathem> of all components suites actually
[08:37:24] <bleathem> so users can use the components they choose
[08:37:33] <Bunbury> ok, does seam work3 fine with primefaces?
[08:37:42] <Bunbury> seam 3*
[08:37:51] <bleathem> If it doesn't file issues
[08:38:22] <bleathem> but really, I suggest taking a good look at both showcases, and evaluating what you need for components
[08:38:25] <Bunbury> k where can I find learning resources for seam 3?
[08:39:03] <bleathem> Bunbury: we should ask sbryzak how Seam University is coming along
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[08:42:16] <Bunbury> hmm whats the link for that?
[08:45:01] <daniel_hinojosa> Bon Jour bleathem!
[08:45:14] <bleathem> hey danno!
[08:45:25] <bleathem> Comment ca va mon ami?
[08:45:56] <daniel_hinojosa> uh, yes?
[08:45:58] <daniel_hinojosa> haha
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[14:12:12] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master 44fba9e.. Shane Bryzak additional dependencies
[14:12:12] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/parent/compare/2c8b2d2...44fba9e
[14:19:32] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 8385ea9.. Shane Bryzak refactored logging api into org.jboss.seam.logging package, added manifest entries required for logging in as7
[14:19:32] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 73b7bc3.. Shane Bryzak Merge branch 'develop' of github.com:seam/solder into develop...
[14:19:32] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/594327b...73b7bc3
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[14:54:30] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master e6dfc1b.. Shane Bryzak added container boms for as7 managed, weld-ee-embedded, glassfish-embedded
[14:54:31] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/parent/compare/44fba9e...e6dfc1b
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[17:05:17] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 9f186c6.. Shane Bryzak added testsuite
[17:05:17] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/73b7bc3...9f186c6
[17:06:51] <lincolnthree> that's some serious testing sbryzak
[17:07:04] <sbryzak> i'm just trying to un-break everything ;)
[17:07:19] <lincolnthree> can you un-break my heart?
[17:07:25] <lincolnthree> lol :-p
[17:08:12] <sbryzak> hey i love that song
[17:08:20] <lincolnthree> it's a song?
[17:08:23] <sbryzak> i should play it while i'm fixing tests
[17:08:27] <sbryzak> yeah, toni braxton
[17:08:33] <lincolnthree> oh wow
[17:08:34] <lincolnthree> so it is
[17:09:05] <lincolnthree> ew it's a sad song
[17:10:21] <sbryzak> anyways, time for bed.. it's 1am and my house is starting to freeze over
[17:10:39] <lincolnthree> this is what I say to bugs:
[17:10:42] <lincolnthree> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0&ob=av2n
[17:11:05] <sbryzak> haha i wish i could say that
[17:11:13] <lincolnthree> night ;)
[17:11:19] <sbryzak> g'night :)
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[23:04:55] <gastaldi> hey
[23:05:30] <ssachtleben> hi

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