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[00:24:21] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master 99b38ce.. Shane Bryzak add arquillian deps for as7
[00:24:21] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/parent/compare/bfebb1f...99b38ce
[00:27:11] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop e5c8b48.. Shane Bryzak version updates
[00:27:12] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/5f1323b...e5c8b48
[00:28:46] <gastaldi>  sbryzak: you there ?
[00:28:53] <sbryzak> yes
[00:29:46] <gastaldi> When are you releasing the next seam-parent
[00:29:49] <gastaldi> ?
[00:30:01] <sbryzak> soon
[00:30:07] <sbryzak> maybe today
[00:30:17] <gastaldi> cool
[00:30:57] <gastaldi> Have you finished the transaction migration ?
[00:31:59] <sbryzak> not quite
[00:32:06] <sbryzak> persistence tests still broken
[00:32:28] <gastaldi> :(
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[00:46:51] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Any topics you would like to discuss for the meeting this week?
[00:46:57] <lightguard_jp> Or anyone else have any?
[00:47:11] <sbryzak> module status updates
[00:47:22] <lightguard_jp> Again?
[00:47:23] <sbryzak> checking that everyone has removed the combined jar, etc
[00:47:32] <sbryzak> well yes, the beta release is this weekend
[00:47:40] <lightguard_jp> okay
[00:47:50] <sbryzak> i need to know that everyone is good to go
[00:48:50] <sbryzak> lightguard_jp: how's the getting started guide going?
[00:48:55] <sbryzak> can we include it in the beta?
[00:49:21] <lightguard_jp> I can focus on it a bit more and get it there for the beta
[00:49:32] <lightguard_jp> Hanneli also has some stuff that could go in as well.
[00:49:53] <sbryzak> great, it will need to be done by friday if it's going in
[00:50:25] <lightguard_jp> Can't promise it'll be in docbook form though
[00:51:15] <sbryzak> i can probably help to convert it
[00:52:04] <lightguard_jp> Been doing it in haml and markdown for it to be displayed on a web page.
[00:52:07] <gastaldi> sbryzak: lightguard_jp: There is the issue about Seam Reports x Seam Render to be solved also before Beta release I guess.
[00:52:20] <lightguard_jp> No one has said anything about taht.
[00:52:28] <gastaldi> yeah, I know :(
[00:52:32] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: would you please bump the thread and try to get it started again?
[00:52:37] <gastaldi> ok
[00:55:13] <gastaldi> ah crap, I think I replied the wrong thread
[00:55:43] <gastaldi> humm, no I think that was it
[00:55:53] <sbryzak> have any of you guys tried running arquillian with as7?
[00:56:10] <lightguard_jp> Not fully.
[00:56:22] <lightguard_jp> I've seen catch work on AS7 though ;)
[00:56:32] <sbryzak> i'm still having some issues getting the persistence tests running
[00:56:32] <lightguard_jp> Ken also has international work on as7
[00:56:41] <lightguard_jp> Are those AS6 tests?
[00:56:47] <gastaldi> sbryzak: Which issues ?
[00:56:49] <sbryzak> ah, maybe he's the man that can help
[00:56:51] <lightguard_jp> Unless they've been changed they're AS6
[00:56:59] <sbryzak> well, just getting the dependencies right
[00:57:13] <gastaldi> those nasty slf4j deps ?
[00:57:20] <sbryzak> no, the arq dependencies
[00:57:25] <gastaldi> oh
[00:57:27] <sbryzak> i haven't seen aslak online to ask him how it should be set up
[00:57:46] <sbryzak> and the online docs are out of date
[00:57:52] <gastaldi> There should be a pom to import in Arquillian
[00:58:00] <gastaldi> I mean, in the perfect world :)
[00:58:04] <lightguard_jp> The docs are in confluence
[00:58:16] <lightguard_jp> Ken has those in International
[00:58:50] <sbryzak> ok, i'll take a look at ken's module
[00:59:02] <sbryzak> re seam render, let's use it for our templating
[00:59:44] <sbryzak> i don't know if that leaves us enough time before the beta
[00:59:54] <sbryzak> but i think it's a good idea
[01:02:07] <lightguard_jp> Probably not for the beta, no.
[01:02:18] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Also need that email with items to focus on for the Hack Night
[01:02:42] <sbryzak> yep i'll have that ready today
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[01:27:31] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: I have one failure on AS7, but it passes in Weld Embedded
[01:27:46] <sbryzak> is that for catch?
[01:32:08] <lightguard_jp> Yes
[01:33:18] <lightguard_jp> And it was a packing issue with what I sent to AS7
[01:33:27] <sbryzak> ah, so it's easy to fix?
[01:33:30] <lightguard_jp> I can say with confidence Catch runs on AS7 :)
[01:33:33] <lightguard_jp> Yeah
[01:33:35] <sbryzak> cool
[01:34:02] <sbryzak> i would like us to all use ken's testing structure
[01:34:24] <sbryzak> when he comes online i'll see if he's got a little time to help set it up
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[01:39:28] <jbossbot> git [catch] push SEAMCATCH-59 d3f05c4.. LightGuard Fixing up included poms for the containers
[01:39:28] <jbossbot> git [catch] push SEAMCATCH-59 d7d4101.. LightGuard Fixing up the tests....
[01:39:28] <jbossbot> git [catch] push SEAMCATCH-59 URL: http://github.com/seam/catch/compare/350b312...d7d4101
[01:39:36] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: You can also look at Catch now
[01:39:39] <lightguard_jp> in that branch
[01:40:37] <sbryzak> which branch?  develop?
[01:40:57] <lightguard_jp> Just a sec while I merge and push
[01:41:16] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 2167d0f.. LightGuard Trying to get Catch to run on OWB
[01:41:17] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop fdf6641.. LightGuard More tweaking for owb
[01:41:17] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 350b312.. LightGuard Converting over to the new testing structure...
[01:41:17] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop d3f05c4.. LightGuard Fixing up included poms for the containers
[01:41:17] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop d7d4101.. LightGuard Fixing up the tests....
[01:41:18] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 937268b.. LightGuard Merge branch 'feature/SEAMCATCH-59' into develop
[01:41:19] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMCATCH-59] Switch to new testing structure [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jason Porter] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMCATCH-59
[01:41:20] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/catch/compare/74df8fa...937268b
[01:41:23] <lightguard_jp> Yes, develop :)
[01:42:02] <sbryzak> looking good
[01:42:08] <sbryzak> we need to get those arq deps into seam-parent though
[01:42:24] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, or the bom.
[01:42:26] <sbryzak> and the other testing deps
[01:42:35] <lightguard_jp> the seam-parent needs a lot of work
[01:42:37] <lightguard_jp> imo
[01:42:40] <sbryzak> agreed
[01:42:50] <lightguard_jp> Track down deps, update where needed, adding things, etc.
[01:43:12] <sbryzak> we really need to go through it with a fine toothed comb
[01:45:50] <lightguard_jp> Yes we do
[01:46:15] <lightguard_jp> Something to look through after the Beta?
[01:46:28] <lightguard_jp> I think we're getting a little time crunched now with things for the beta.
[01:46:32] <sbryzak> i think so, i doubt we have time before it
[01:48:07] <lightguard_jp> I like how this testing setup downloads AS7 and runs it itself, works nice for CI jobs.
[01:48:27] <sbryzak> awesome, i didn't know that
[01:48:36] <sbryzak> is that only if it's not available locally?
[01:49:05] <lightguard_jp> No, it downloads it anyway. There *may* be a way to change that though.
[01:49:09] <lightguard_jp> Not 100% sure
[01:50:01] <lightguard_jp> I'm going to be heading out in a few minutes, be back later
[01:54:03] <lightguard_jp> Looks like there's issues with our CloudBees and running tests this way :(
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[02:56:50] <stuartdouglas> bleathem: ping
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[03:54:18] <bleathem> ping stuartdouglas
[03:54:24] <stuartdouglas> bleathem: hey
[03:54:30] <bleathem> I saw the updates re: SEAMFACES-194
[03:54:32] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-194] Intermittent JSF bootstrapping failure on AS7 [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Brian Leathem] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-194
[03:54:43] <stuartdouglas> are you ok with deleting the seam faces SCI?
[03:54:57] <stuartdouglas> the JSF RI already provides one that does the same thing
[03:55:01] <bleathem> I'm ok with deleting the SCI, if the functionality is already provided
[03:55:15] <bleathem> but, I thought it was only EE containers that did that, and Servlet containers did not
[03:55:33] <bleathem> if you say it's mojarra itself that does it, then yeah, we can delete it for sure
[03:55:43] <stuartdouglas> the faces jar provides a SCI that works pretty much the same as the Seam faces one
[03:55:48] <stuartdouglas> except it sets a context param
[03:55:58] <stuartdouglas> and without that context param the whole thing breaks
[03:56:05] <bleathem> do you know if MyFaces has this too?
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[03:56:17] <stuartdouglas> not sure
[03:56:36] <stuartdouglas> but imho it is better to remove it than have random breakage
[03:57:02] <bleathem> ok, I'll look into it further, and either add the context param as you suggested, or delete it altogether
[03:57:36] <bleathem> I don't want any running apps failing on upgrade, if they depend on Faces providing the functionality
[03:58:10] <bleathem> This would be a good fix, as I IIRC the same problem affects Glassfih 3.x
[03:58:13] <bleathem> err. 3.1.x
[03:58:38] * bleathem back to staining my sundeck
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[04:31:07] <gastaldi> hey all
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[05:05:29] <gastaldi> hey all
[05:05:34] <gastaldi> hey hannelita
[05:05:46] <hannelita> hey gastaldi :)
[05:06:44] 
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[05:08:10] <hannelita> gastaldi: stucked since I spent the rest of my day at school :( damn classes
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[05:16:27] <gastaldi> .
[05:18:44] <hannelita> gastaldi: you keep on getting dcd
[05:18:44] <gastaldi> sbryzak: You there ?
[05:18:48] <gastaldi> yeah
[05:18:51] 
[05:18:55] <sbryzak> gastaldi: yep
[05:19:16] <gastaldi> The combined module should die right ?
[05:19:25] <gastaldi> I created a pull request for Seam Catch
[05:19:38] <gastaldi> https://github.com/seam/catch/pull/21
[05:19:38] <sbryzak> gastaldi: that's right
[05:19:51] 
[05:19:51] <sbryzak> great, thank you :)
[05:20:02] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 8642248.. George Gastaldi Removed combined project
[05:20:02] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 9a21e0e.. George Gastaldi Merge pull request #21 from gastaldi/develop...
[05:20:02] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/catch/compare/937268b...9a21e0e
[05:21:16] <gastaldi> Is there any module left ?
[05:21:50] <gastaldi> Ahhh Security !
[05:22:05] <gastaldi> :)
[05:22:59] 
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[05:27:36] <gastaldi> back again
[05:28:06] <gastaldi> Humm,, I see I am missing the impl naming schema
[05:28:08] <gastaldi> scheme
[05:32:21] 
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[05:36:18] <gastaldi> :P
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[05:46:54] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 19ea74d.. George Gastaldi Renamed impl name
[05:46:54] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 6d5e7f1.. George Gastaldi Merge branch 'develop' of https://github.com/seam/catch into develop
[05:46:54] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/catch/compare/9a21e0e...6d5e7f1
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[05:52:45] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop 8804915.. Shane Bryzak updated dependencies
[05:52:45] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/e5c8b48...8804915
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[05:53:22] <gastaldi> hey
[05:53:30] <gastaldi> I am having some issues when building seam security
[05:53:44] <gastaldi>  Could not transfer artifact trove:trove:pom:2.1.1
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[05:56:52] <gastaldi> That might be an issue of having it just on the deprecated repos
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[06:01:45] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop 339aff3.. George Gastaldi Removed combined and changed impl artifact name
[06:01:45] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop d9d4a3c.. George Gastaldi Merge pull request #22 from gastaldi/develop...
[06:01:45] <jbossbot> git [security] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/2ce2871...d9d4a3c
[06:06:13] <bleathem> Why is there no Integer.ZERO constant?
[06:06:46] <bleathem> does "Integer integer = 0" always map to the same Integer isntance?
[06:06:57] <bleathem> or does autoboxing create a new instance every time?
[06:07:53] <gastaldi> Good question
[06:08:03] 
[06:08:13] <jamezp> It should always get a new instance since Integer is immutable.
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[06:10:43] <stuartdouglas> it compiles to Integer.valueOf()
[06:11:03] <stuartdouglas> which means that if the value is between -128 and 128 it should get a cached instance
[06:11:07] <stuartdouglas> from memory
[06:11:30] <bleathem> thanks!
[06:11:50] <bleathem> stuartdouglas: so for values between -128 and 128 it behaves like String assignment
[06:12:02] <bleathem> where it recycles object instances
[06:12:27] <stuartdouglas> yes
[06:12:46] <bleathem> jamezp: I believe it's precisely this immutability that allows them to be recycled
[06:13:20] <jamezp> Right, it will be recycled, but new Integer(5) != 5. :-)
[06:13:38] <bleathem> jamezp: right, the New operator guarantees a new instance
[06:14:08] <bleathem> which is why we should use "new" with String assignment, I was wondering if the same is true for Integers,
[06:14:22] <bleathem> which it seems it is
[06:14:35] <stuartdouglas> why should you use new?
[06:14:48] <bleathem> oops
[06:14:53] <bleathem> s/should/shouldn't/
[06:14:57] <jamezp> :-)
[06:14:57] <bleathem> :P
[06:15:24] <gastaldi> hey, is it OK if I push the combined removal changes onto Seam Faces ?
[06:15:53] <gastaldi> https://github.com/seam/faces/pull/44
[06:16:25] <jamezp> I don't know if I've ever used new String() before. Except maybe in Arrays.toList().
[06:17:08] <bleathem> gastaldi: looks good - would you mind doing it command line (rather than with the web button) as it keeps the history cleaner
[06:17:17] <gastaldi> ok
[06:17:17] <bleathem> gastaldi: if it's too much bother, I can do it
[06:17:28] <gastaldi> no, not a problem
[06:17:37] <bleathem> gastaldi: but if you're cool with the extra steps, integrate away community integrator!
[06:17:42] <gastaldi> :D
[06:17:44] <jbossbot> git [faces] push develop 678db3a.. George Gastaldi Removed combined and changed impl artifact name
[06:17:45] <jbossbot> git [faces] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/faces/compare/5c47508...678db3a
[06:17:49] <gastaldi> yaaay
[06:18:04] <bleathem> gastaldi: was there a Faces jira for that?
[06:18:17] 
[06:18:17] <bleathem> we should have one, so it's sure to be included in the release notes
[06:18:31] <gastaldi> Yeah, do you mind creating one ? ;)
[06:18:33] <bleathem> something to point at when we break peoples apps
[06:19:04] <gastaldi> You can exercise your JIRA experience now :)
[06:19:40] <gastaldi> sbryzak: You there ?
[06:19:45] <bleathem> Sweet, ListShuttle functionality introduced to the new PickList component
[06:19:52] <sbryzak> gastaldi: yes
[06:19:58] <bleathem> now to make it look pretty
[06:20:23] <gastaldi> cool, can you create JIRA issues for each module that contains the "combined" module ?
[06:20:37] <gastaldi> you may assign them to myself
[06:21:17] <gastaldi> Working on Servlet now
[06:21:40] <sbryzak> gastaldi: sure, i can look at it later today
[06:21:48] <gastaldi> OK, thanks
[06:21:49] <sbryzak> putting together the list of goals for the security hack night right now
[06:24:32] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push develop b211e93.. George Gastaldi Removed combined and changed impl artifact name
[06:24:32] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/servlet/compare/4b0afc5...b211e93
[06:24:53] <gastaldi> Another one bites the dust ! :D
[06:32:57] <jbossbot> git [validation] push develop 80fdd69.. George Gastaldi Removed combined and changed impl artifact name
[06:32:58] <jbossbot> git [validation] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/validation/compare/334b65b...80fdd69
[06:33:53] <gastaldi> I think I am done through all the modules
[06:37:35] <jbossbot> git [social] push develop 54570b8.. George Gastaldi Removed combined and changed impl artifact name
[06:37:35] <jbossbot> git [social] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/social/compare/2c6f322...54570b8
[06:43:44] <gastaldi> Really, the Merge button in GitHub should not garbage the commit history
[06:43:52] <gastaldi> Is there any way to avoid this ?
[06:44:06] <gastaldi> in the web console I mean
[06:53:11] <jamezp> The rule for AS7 is we must rebase before a commit is accepted.
[06:53:44] <gastaldi> jamezp: Do you use the Merge button ?
[06:54:01] <gastaldi> ah I see
[06:54:24] <jamezp> gastaldi: Never have. I do everything via the command line locally.
[06:54:30] <gastaldi> Nice
[06:54:32] <jamezp> Habit I guess more than anything.
[06:54:44] <gastaldi> Yeah, I need to get on this habit also :)
[06:55:15] <gastaldi> Is anyone using EGit in here ?
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[06:55:36] <jamezp> Not me. I use Intellij which has some decent integration.
[06:55:42] <gastaldi> :)
[06:55:59] <jamezp> Netbeans has decent integration as well.
[06:56:09] <gastaldi> I tried intellij once, but I am an Eclipse fanboy
[06:56:32] <gastaldi> Netbeans always sucked, ever since it was named Forte4J
[06:56:41] <jamezp> I was until I started using JSF and eclipse had no support for facelets.
[06:57:03] <gastaldi> hum, what about JBoss Tools  ?
[06:57:17] <jamezp> I still love Netbeans. Don't use it as much, but for JSF it's awesome.
[06:57:28] <gastaldi> Gotta try that
[06:57:46] 
[06:57:49] <jamezp> I was at an IBM shop before. Mostly RAD and I used Netbeans for JSF/Facelets.
[06:58:01] <gastaldi> Cool
[06:58:29] <gastaldi> RAD is cool
[06:58:32] <jamezp> My main recent problem with eclipse was m2eclipse. Kept having to force quit.
[06:58:41] 
[06:58:49] <gastaldi> Thanks to maxandersen
[06:59:19] <jamezp> That's what I hear. Now I'm so used to Intellij I have a hard time switching back :-)
[06:59:26] <gastaldi> :)
[06:59:55] <jamezp> Intellij does some things so well. Like the built in github support is awesome.
[07:00:06] <gastaldi> Nice
[07:00:16] <jamezp> If you need anything besides core Java the community version is useless though.
[07:00:35] <gastaldi> And what about comparing with the WTP in Eclipse ?
[07:00:46] <gastaldi> The WTP is pretty awesome
[07:01:08] <jamezp> The only way to get something like WTP is to use the paid version.
[07:01:22] <gastaldi> ah, or work on an OSS version :)
[07:01:29] <gastaldi> I have a license
[07:01:40] 
[07:01:44] <jamezp> Yes, which I do have the license for.
[07:01:53] <gastaldi> I love JRebel also
[07:02:02] <gastaldi> Excellent tool
[07:02:11] <gastaldi> And works seamlessly on Eclipse as well
[07:02:15] <jamezp> All I do now is core Java, so I never use any of the other tooling.
[07:02:29] <jamezp> Yeah, I really need to check it out. I've heard great things about it.
[07:02:33] 
[07:02:52] <jamezp> I am indeed.
[07:03:13] <gastaldi> ah, But I think there is not a plugin for it yet
[07:03:54] <jamezp> Probably not. That's where eclipse has a huge advantage. It's probably got the largest market share.
[07:04:05] <gastaldi> Yeah
[07:04:10] <gastaldi> No doubt about it
[07:04:29] <gastaldi> I wish it was less buggy
[07:04:43] <gastaldi> And stop eating my memory
[07:04:51] <jamezp> That's been my main issue recently. It's become way more buggy.
[07:05:25] <jamezp> I think it's just too big now. Probably needs a huge complicated refactoring.
[07:05:45] <gastaldi> hum, well, you can always use the classic version
[07:05:57] <gastaldi> And add the plugins you really need
[07:06:07] 
[07:06:23] <jamezp> Good point. I actually could probably get away with since I don't do any web-dev any more.
[07:06:36] <gastaldi> cool
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[07:18:24] <gastaldi> gotta sleep now
[07:18:27] <gastaldi> See ya !
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[10:06:41] <fcorneli> anyone working on seam-persistence? tried to compile it, but still receive some arquillian dependency issues
[10:07:20] <lightguard_jp> fcorneli: What exactly are you getting?
[10:07:30] <fcorneli> why was tx cut out off seam-persistence and put into seam-transaction?
[10:08:04] <lightguard_jp> fcorneli: So the transaction bits could be used without persistence.
[10:08:19] <fcorneli> base could not compile because of missing arquillian dependencies
[10:08:36] <lightguard_jp> I think Shane is still working on it.
[10:08:51] <lightguard_jp> (Getting it to build properly)
[10:09:12] <lightguard_jp> You could go back a commit or two and build from there.
[10:09:12] <fcorneli> Shane? is that sbryzak?
[10:09:15] <lightguard_jp> Yes
[10:09:48] <fcorneli> already send him some messages... he's indeed heavily reworking some parts...
[10:10:39] <fcorneli> I guess I'll wait until things are stable again
[10:10:42] * lightguard_jp wishes he'd have done that on a branch...
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[10:11:09] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop 700fcdd.. LightGuard Fixing up tests to not use maven in shrinkwrap
[10:11:09] <jbossbot> git [catch] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/catch/compare/6d5e7f1...700fcdd
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[13:15:16] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop 7aeeaa6.. Jozef Hartinger SEAMREST-48 Remove Interpolator class
[13:15:18] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREST-48] Remove Interpolator class [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jozef Hartinger] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREST-48
[13:15:18] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/23dcaa7...7aeeaa6
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[13:30:17] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop 68a7143.. Jozef Hartinger SEAMREST-46 Make AS7 the default container
[13:30:18] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREST-46] Make AS7 the default container [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jozef Hartinger] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREST-46
[13:30:18] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/7aeeaa6...68a7143
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[13:44:48] <jose_freitas> good morning
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[13:54:37] <gastaldi> Morning all
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[13:54:55] <gastaldi> Rainy morning, damn :P
[13:55:24] <jose_freitas> morning gastaldi
[13:55:33] <gastaldi> Hey jose_freitas
[13:55:49] <gastaldi> Raining like hell in Blumenau
[13:56:01] <gastaldi> How's floripa ?
[13:56:48] <gastaldi> Looks like another flood is coming
[13:56:53] <gastaldi> Here
[13:58:19] <jose_freitas> raining a lot too.
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[14:10:51] <nickarls> been raining here too all day so from this sample we can conlude that the Great Flood 2.0 is upon us
[14:11:20] <jose_freitas> haahah
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[14:33:07] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: You once told me about a GIT server  to be used internally
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[14:33:16] <gastaldi> Do u remember what it was ?
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[14:33:49] <jose_freitas> gitorious
[14:34:02] <jose_freitas> PITA to install
[14:34:17] <gastaldi> :P
[14:34:30] <gastaldi> I wish there was some free options like GitHub Firewall
[14:34:38] <jose_freitas> heheeh
[14:34:43] <jose_freitas> there's bitbucket
[14:34:49] <jose_freitas> but it's with hg
[14:34:57] <gastaldi> :P
[14:35:02] <jose_freitas> which is kinda close to git
[14:35:07] <jose_freitas> distributed as well
[14:35:31] <gastaldi> Creating one using Seam 3 looks cool :)
[14:35:55] <jose_freitas> hehehe
[14:36:35] <gastaldi> hum bitbuckets looks nice if you work on Hg
[14:37:05] 
[14:40:34] <jose_freitas> it allows
[14:40:54] <gastaldi> hum, cool
[14:40:57] 
[14:40:59] <gastaldi> :D
[14:41:02] <jose_freitas> lol
[14:41:19] <jose_freitas> have you worked with hg?
[14:42:03] <jose_freitas> it's a nice tool too
[14:48:38] <gastaldi> nope, never
[14:48:49] <gastaldi> seems alike
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[15:16:21] <Diablo-D3> I spy a gastaldi!
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[15:17:32] <gastaldi> lol
[15:17:35] <fcorneli> Within my application I'm creating somewhere a bean via the BeanManager. How do I attach those beans to the RequestScoped lifecycle? The beans are annotated with a custom annotation.
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[15:38:57] <fcorneli> via Context requestContext = this.beanManager.getContext(RequestScoped.class); I can get the requestContext, but how to add a bean to it?
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[18:53:15] <gastaldi> We should use a ribbon like that on Seam modules: https://github.com/blog/273-github-ribbons
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[19:43:12] <gastaldi> hey lincolnthree1
[19:43:14] <gastaldi> lightguard_jp:
[19:44:21] <lincolnthree1> hey gastaldi
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[20:46:12] <lincolnthree1> hey alesj, you around?
[20:47:36] <alesj> lincolnthree1: wazup?
[20:47:46] <lincolnthree1> looking at seam conversation
[20:47:48] <lincolnthree1> how do i use it?
[20:47:57] <lincolnthree1> do i need to implement something like this?
[20:47:58] <lincolnthree1> https://github.com/seam/conversation/blob/develop/spi/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/conversation/support/RealTestFilter.java
[20:48:04] <lincolnthree1> in my app?
[20:50:34] <alesj> you simply inject the ConversationSPI
[20:50:37] <lincolnthree1> alesj: ^^
[20:50:40] <lincolnthree1> oh
[20:51:24] <lincolnthree1> I don't see that class
[20:51:26] <alesj> https://github.com/seam/conversation/blob/develop/spi/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/conversation/support/SetupHttpSCCFilter.java
[20:51:28] <lincolnthree1> what you do you mean?
[20:51:38] <lincolnthree1> ah ok
[20:51:42] 
[20:51:56] <alesj> SeamConversationContext is the class
[20:52:09] <alesj> yes, ConversationSPI is something else :-)
[20:52:27] <alesj> and the right instance, wrt CDI impl, will be injected
[20:52:36] <lincolnthree1> ok, so once this is set up in the app
[20:52:54] <lincolnthree1> @ConversationScoped works normally during the filter chain
[20:52:56] <alesj> then you can setup Conversation outside JFS
[20:52:59] <lincolnthree1> right
[20:53:00] <alesj> yes
[20:53:02] <lincolnthree1> that's what I need
[20:53:06] <lincolnthree1> awesome!
[20:53:11] <alesj> that's what that test is trying to check
[20:53:24] <lincolnthree1> so question
[20:53:30] <lincolnthree1> what happens if you include more than 1 impl?
[20:53:33] <alesj> see https://github.com/seam/conversation/blob/develop/spi/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/conversation/support/MiddleBean.java
[20:53:42] <alesj> i think normal CDI error
[20:53:46] <alesj> ambiguity
[20:53:47] <lincolnthree1> ok
[20:53:48] <lincolnthree1> right
[20:53:50] <lincolnthree1> next question
[20:53:55] <lincolnthree1> what if you don't include any impl?
[20:53:59] <alesj> same
[20:54:05] <alesj> or ? hmm
[20:54:06] <lincolnthree1> ok
[20:54:23] <alesj> i think Shane changed that a bit
[20:54:26] <lincolnthree1> was considering integrating this in https://github.com/ocpsoft/rewrite
[20:54:26] <alesj> or, i did
[20:54:36] <lincolnthree1> i
[20:54:39] <lincolnthree1> i'll play around
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[20:55:10] <alesj> let me check, few min ? i'm cooking something ? need to take it out of the oven :-)_
[20:57:15] <lincolnthree1> looks like it deploys fine with just SPI
[20:57:17] <lincolnthree1> good
[20:57:57] <alesj> https://github.com/seam/conversation/blob/develop/spi/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/conversation/spi/SeamConversationContextFactory.java
[20:58:06] <alesj> yes, Noop is alowed
[20:59:02] <alesj> which you can disable
[20:59:09] <lincolnthree1> i want noop :)
[20:59:15] <alesj> damn ;-)
[20:59:25] <alesj> i could impl that in 2min
[20:59:34] <lincolnthree1> impl what? lol
[20:59:39] <lincolnthree1> disabling noop?
[20:59:40] <alesj> no need for OWB and CanDI
[20:59:47] <alesj> support
[20:59:54] <lincolnthree1> they already fixed this?
[21:02:40] <lincolnthree1> alesj: https://gist.github.com/1134884
[21:02:41] <lincolnthree1> :)
[21:03:05] <lincolnthree1> really this could be done in a Request listener, I think
[21:03:09] <lincolnthree1> that's probably the best place
[21:09:37] <alesj> nice
[21:09:40] <alesj> no, i mean
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[21:10:00] <alesj> if you only needed Noop, why did i bother to impl this on top of OWB, CanDI :-)
[21:10:28] <alesj> dunno for Request listener, too much detials for me
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[21:14:56] <lincolnthree1> hehe
[21:15:08] <lincolnthree1> yeah, it works great with just noop
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[21:17:46] <lincolnthree1> doh
[21:17:47] <lincolnthree1> i was wrong
[21:17:49] <lincolnthree1> i think i need the impl
[21:18:08] <lincolnthree1> i guess i didn't use the proper call ;)
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[21:24:01] <lincolnthree1> alesj: any way to check if the conversation is already active?
[21:24:11] <lincolnthree1> context rather
[21:26:12] <lincolnthree1> the filter can invoke too many times apparently
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[21:30:42] <lincolnthree1> alesj: this doesn't work if you use it in conjunction with JSF,
[21:30:45] <lincolnthree1> it tries to start the context twice
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[21:55:53] <alesj> lincolnthree: hmmm, i guess there is some check if the conversation already exists
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[21:56:48] <lincolnthree> alesj: yes, and it doesn't look like it's configurable
[21:56:59] <lincolnthree> there's no way to deactivate a phase listener in JSF IIRC
[21:58:17] <alesj> no idea what jsf can do, as i never used it much
[21:58:31] <lightguard_jp> Did Gavin blog again today??
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[21:59:27] <alesj> lincolnthree: we could perhaps add some method to SeamCC to check if the conv. alreadt exists?
[21:59:50] <lincolnthree> that's not the problem
[22:00:01] <lincolnthree> the failure is from the WeldPhaseListener
[22:00:06] <lincolnthree> because the conv. already exists
[22:00:20] <lincolnthree> so basically you can't use Seam Conv. on requests where JSF is also going to access the conv.
[22:00:44] <clerum> that would explain some error I was running into last week
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[22:02:39] <lincolnthree> dammit this part of CDI was so short sighted
[22:02:42] <lincolnthree> im pissed
[22:02:53] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree: That sucks. Conversations are broken as is in CDI, and Seam Conversation was our fix, but you can't use it :(
[22:03:08] <lincolnthree> nobody can use it with JSF
[22:03:10] <lincolnthree> ugh
[22:03:27] <lincolnthree> i wonder if AS7 will let me replace that class
[22:03:30] <lincolnthree> with jboss modules
[22:04:09] <clerum> my issues were trying to catch view expired exceptions and redirect to home but it seemed like it would disassociate and then throw a context not active exception
[22:05:00] <lincolnthree> negative
[22:05:01] <lincolnthree> dammit
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[22:06:21] <lincolnthree> alesj: i also tried deactivating the context before JSF is invoked, but that doesn't work
[22:06:28] <lincolnthree> you get a different exception
[22:07:34] <alesj> lincolnthree: SeamCC is for where there is no conv. handling
[22:07:36] <alesj> e.g. remoting
[22:07:43] <lincolnthree> alesj: :( :( :(
[22:07:56] <alesj> but, make sure you put down all issues
[22:07:59] <lincolnthree> this makes injection into conv scoped beans impossible in a servlet filter
[22:08:02] <alesj> hence we have CDI 1.1
[22:08:02] <lincolnthree> yeah i already have one:
[22:08:20] <lincolnthree> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-148
[22:08:21] <jbossbot> jira [CDI-148] Conversation Scope should be as available as Request Scope (Ubiquitous), and not tied to JSF [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-148
[22:08:28] <alesj> servlet filter should already have conv. support, via listener
[22:08:40] <lincolnthree> it does not
[22:08:55] <alesj> what does WeldL then do?
[22:09:01] <lincolnthree> WeldL?
[22:09:03] <alesj> if not tie conv. to all requests
[22:09:07] <alesj> WeldListener
[22:09:12] <lincolnthree> lol
[22:09:21] <lincolnthree> it does tie to all requests
[22:09:29] <lincolnthree> but *not until* after RESTORE_VIEW phase in JSF
[22:09:33] <lincolnthree> which is inside a Servlet
[22:09:34] <lincolnthree> so...
[22:09:40] <lincolnthree> it's useless in servlet filters
[22:10:02] <lincolnthree> hence my issue
[22:10:22] <nickarls> Been battling a "Seam 3 on AS7" transaction thingie for some days now: http://pastebin.com/3E3XdY8q
[22:10:47] <nickarls> comes from accessing an extended persistence context when faces+persistence is present
[22:10:58] <alesj> lincolnthree: doesn't it check conv. at every req. start
[22:11:06] <lincolnthree> alesj: nope
[22:11:15] <nickarls> stuartdouglas says "use SMPC" but I refuse and live in denial ;-)
[22:11:23] <lincolnthree> if it did, then we wouldn't need seam conversations ;)
[22:11:24] <lightguard_jp> nickarls: Not familiar with it, try stuartdouglas or shane when they're online
[22:11:46] <alesj> lincolnthree: in WL::requestInitialized?
[22:12:08] * nickarls recalls a battle where we tried to bind the context activation to servlet lifecycle and not jsf lifecycle. we lost
[22:12:14] <lincolnthree> ah sure, it associates
[22:12:19] <lincolnthree> but it does not activate
[22:12:32] <alesj> lincolnthree: you have nickarls who's been there before :-)
[22:13:15] <alesj> lincolnthree: ah, so if you activate it outside phase_listener, it will fail with dup activation?
[22:13:21] <lincolnthree> alesj: yes
[22:13:31] <lincolnthree> it's f*cked
[22:13:35] <alesj> auch, me == glad i don't have to do UI :-)
[22:13:44] <lincolnthree> alesj: you do weld though
[22:13:52] <lincolnthree> could you add a flag to disable JSF conversations?
[22:13:55] <lincolnthree> :)
[22:14:01] <alesj> yeah, we should abandon UI for Weld :-)
[22:14:04] <lincolnthree> YES
[22:14:09] <lincolnthree> CDI should *NEVER* have known about UI
[22:14:35] <nickarls> we could do a catch ContextAlreadyActiveException in the PhaseListener and do nothing if someone has been so kind as to activating it already
[22:14:41] <alesj> nickarls: didn't we just add something to Phase listener that can disable conversation?
[22:14:57] <alesj> your additional paramater
[22:14:58] <lincolnthree> nickarls: that's a great idea actually. i wonder if that could be done in an exceptionfactory in JSF
[22:15:02] <nickarls> did we do it or did we just talk about it? ;-=
[22:15:11] <nickarls> I have one in *my* Weld ;-)
[22:15:12] <alesj> i know i changed something
[22:15:23] <alesj> just not all N options
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[22:15:59] <alesj> lincolnthree, nickarls:       Map<String,String> map = facesContext.getExternalContext().getRequestParameterMap();
[22:16:00] <alesj>       if (map.containsKey(NO_CID))
[22:16:00] <alesj>          return null; // ignore cid; WELD-919
[22:16:01] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-919] Conversation propagation token that negates the "cid" parameter [Resolved (Done) Feature Request, Major, Ales Justin] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-919
[22:16:08] <alesj> this is in 1.1.2.Final
[22:16:28] <nickarls> ah, goodie. What did you name NO_CID?
[22:16:36] <alesj> see WeldPhaseListener
[22:16:44] <alesj> nocid
[22:16:57] <alesj> ^ NO_CID
[22:17:10] <alesj> i guess this could help?
[22:17:14] <lincolnthree> looking
[22:17:48] <alesj> ** off to watch some YU basketball **
[22:17:57] <lincolnthree> alesj: kk
[22:17:59] <lincolnthree> thanks for your help
[22:18:01] <alesj> np
[22:18:09] <alesj> i'll be back after the game is over
[22:18:28] <alesj> nice ex-YU tournament going on in Ljubljana, showing it on local TV
[22:19:00] <nickarls> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-135 on spec level
[22:19:01] <jbossbot> jira [CDI-135] Request parameter for terminating cid propagation [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-135
[22:20:38] <nickarls> and someone(tm) could fix WELD-878 while they're at it ;-)
[22:20:40] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-878] WeldPhaseListener fails to activate conversation context if conversation is not found [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-878
[22:21:52] <nickarls> and I can't believe noone has complained about WELD-697 ;-) Wrong channel but pretty much the same people there anyways
[22:21:53] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-697] Foreground conversations [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-697
[22:22:22] <nickarls> because isn't is still so that there is no "foreground conversation" in Weld?
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[22:39:51] <lincolnthree> dammit
[22:39:57] <lincolnthree> the exception i have to catch is IllegalStateException
[22:40:04] <lincolnthree> this is going to be a HUGE hack
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[23:09:58] <rmartinelli> jose_freitas: Hey, do you know in what object does CDI components annotated with @SessionScoped relies to?
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[23:15:34] <jose_freitas> rmartinelli: didn't get your question
[23:15:45] <jose_freitas> what do you mean by "rely" to?
[23:15:56] <rmartinelli> jose_freitas: nevermind, I got the answer. =D
[23:16:03] <jose_freitas> nice :)
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[23:24:44] <gastaldi> yoo
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[23:31:06] <hannelita> yoo gastaldi o/
[23:31:15] <gastaldi> hey hannelita
[23:31:29] <gastaldi> any more examples for Seam 3 ?
[23:31:39] <gastaldi> I am dying to see the example with Seam Reports :)
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