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[01:57:44] <johnament> sbryzak, ping
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[02:04:03] <jbossbot> git [jcr] push develop 986b48e.. John Ament Removed combined jar from build, renamed impl.
[02:04:03] <jbossbot> git [jcr] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/jcr/compare/e94775a...986b48e
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[05:09:09] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master bedda18.. Shane Bryzak initial import of seam transaction files
[05:09:10] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/78de409...bedda18
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[05:18:07] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: ping
[05:18:14] <stuartdouglas> sbryzak: hey
[05:18:17] <sbryzak> hey stuart
[05:18:23] <sbryzak> there's some util classes in seam persistence
[05:18:31] <sbryzak> such as BeanManagerUtils, EjbApi, etc
[05:18:36] <sbryzak> do you think they could be moved to solder?
[05:18:42] <stuartdouglas> yes
[05:18:45] <sbryzak> they're used by some of the seam transaction classes also
[05:18:54] <stuartdouglas> I don't think that would be a problem
[05:19:04] <sbryzak> cool, do you think that they should all be moved over?
[05:19:09] <sbryzak> there's about 7 of them
[05:19:14] * stuartdouglas looks
[05:19:19] <sbryzak> all in the org.jboss.seam.persistence.util package
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[05:20:47] <stuartdouglas> I would not move NamingUtils
[05:21:03] <stuartdouglas> InstanceResolver should be moved
[05:21:23] <stuartdouglas> ExceptionUtil is transactions specific, it should be moved to transactions I think
[05:21:40] <stuartdouglas> EnvironmentUtils is a bit of a hack
[05:21:40] <sbryzak> NamingUtils is used by the transaction module
[05:21:49] <sbryzak> it would be nice to not have a dependency on the persistence module
[05:21:57] <stuartdouglas> it should be moved to solder, but refactored, so that the environment can be configured via xml
[05:22:39] <stuartdouglas> NamingUtils can probably be deleted
[05:22:56] <sbryzak> it's used in org.jboss.seam.transaction.DefaultSeamTransaction
[05:22:56] <stuartdouglas> Seam 2 has a thing where you could specify the jndi properties that Seam 2 would use
[05:23:11] <stuartdouglas> really we should just be able to do new IntialContext()
[05:23:52] <stuartdouglas> EjbContextUtils is also kinda silly
[05:24:05] <stuartdouglas> it should always just lookup java:comp/EJBContext
[05:25:04] <stuartdouglas> EjbApi is just a wrapper around EJB classes to prevent errors in environments where they are not available, in the same way the seam 2 did it
[05:25:17] <stuartdouglas> it should probably just be copied between the two modules
[05:25:30] <stuartdouglas> as transactions needs different classes to persistence anyway
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[05:29:49] <sbryzak> sorry, momentarily got disconnected
[05:30:10] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: so i've missed anything you said in the last 4 minutes
[05:30:29] <stuartdouglas> The last thing I said was "as transactions needs different classes to persistence anyway"
[05:30:36] <stuartdouglas> which was before you dropped out
[05:30:38] <sbryzak> ah, i missed that
[05:30:40] <sbryzak> np
[05:31:12] <sbryzak> so.. i said that i'll delete NamingUtils
[05:31:47] <sbryzak> and move the method from EJBContextUtils into DefaultSeamTransaction, which is the only place it's used
[05:32:25] <stuartdouglas> sounds good
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[06:05:06] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: EntityTransaction also has a dependency on DefaultPersistenceProvider
[06:05:12] <sbryzak> how do you think this should be refactored?
[06:05:19] * stuartdouglas looks
[06:08:05] <stuartdouglas> You are probably going to have to delete the line if (!persistenceProvider.registerSynchronization(sync, entityManager))
[06:08:06] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master 861d884.. Shane Bryzak remove dependencies on seam persistence classes
[06:08:06] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/bedda18...861d884
[06:08:18] <stuartdouglas> and always run the getSynchronizations().registerSynchronization(sync);
[06:08:21] <stuartdouglas> line instead
[06:08:25] <stuartdouglas> this is less good
[06:08:34] <sbryzak> so just remove the test?
[06:08:36] <stuartdouglas> but it will still work as long as seam controls the transaction
[06:08:51] <stuartdouglas> which test?
[06:09:00] <sbryzak> the if test
[06:09:03] <stuartdouglas> yea
[06:09:35] <stuartdouglas> the problem is that the sync then won't be run if the user commits the transaction
[06:09:51] <stuartdouglas> although that could be worked around in the SMPC proxy somehow
[06:10:01] <sbryzak> is that something we should document for now?
[06:10:12] <stuartdouglas> to make getTransaction return a proxy EntityTransaction
[06:10:39] <stuartdouglas> can you just file a jura? It should not take to long, I will try and fix it before the release
[06:11:04] <sbryzak> sure
[06:11:06] <stuartdouglas> I should have a little bit of time after the 7.0.1 release, which should happen fairly soon now
[06:11:16] <sbryzak> hmm, what should the description of the issue be?
[06:11:33] <sbryzak> ah, we don't even have a jira project yet for seam transaction
[06:11:36] <sbryzak> i'll set it up now
[06:12:14] <stuartdouglas> The description should be: "synchronisations are not run if the user commits / rolls back the EntityTransaction directly  "
[06:13:49] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: is swd847 your jira username?
[06:13:55] <stuartdouglas> yes
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[06:19:04] <sbryzak> SEAMTRANSACTION-1
[06:19:05] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMTRANSACTION-1] Synchronisations are not run if the user commits / rolls back the EntityTransaction directly [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Stuart Douglas] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMTRANSACTION-1
[06:19:11] <stuartdouglas> thanks
[06:19:28] <sbryzak> i've set the fix version at 3.1.0.Beta1, but if you can't get it done before this weekend then we'll just bump it to CR1
[06:19:57] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master 449f998.. Shane Bryzak remove dependencies on seam persistence
[06:19:57] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/861d884...449f998
[06:20:31] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: did you say that BeanManagerUtils and EjbApi could go into solder?
[06:20:49] <stuartdouglas> BeanManagerUtils can
[06:21:00] <stuartdouglas> EjbApi is not really that useful outside of persistence
[06:21:04] <stuartdouglas> I would just copy it
[06:21:17] <sbryzak> ok
[06:22:20] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: how about ExceptionUtil ?
[06:22:31] <stuartdouglas> that should only apply to transactions I think
[06:22:40] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master af1b19e.. Shane Bryzak copy EjbApi to transaction module
[06:22:40] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/449f998...af1b19e
[06:22:48] <sbryzak> ok, so i'll just move it over
[06:24:07] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master a13ee21.. Shane Bryzak move ExceptionUtil to transactions module
[06:24:07] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/af1b19e...a13ee21
[06:25:49] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: in the persistence module we now have SeamManagedPersistenceContextCreated which depends on SeamTransaction
[06:26:08] <sbryzak> actually, i don't think that import is used
[06:26:18] <sbryzak> it's not.. nevermind
[06:26:38] <stuartdouglas> it's used in the javadoc
[06:26:51] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: it's used in ManagedPersistenceContextProxyHandler though
[06:27:21] <stuartdouglas> I think seam persistence is going to need a dependency on seam-transaction
[06:27:35] <stuartdouglas> the auto registering with the current transaction functionality requires it
[06:27:36] <sbryzak> ok, that should be fine i guess
[06:27:50] <sbryzak> as long as we don't have a two way dependency we should be good
[06:34:41] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 94455cd.. Shane Bryzak moved BeanManagerUtils from persistence modules
[06:34:41] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/4dedbfb...94455cd
[06:34:42] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master af26507.. James Perkins [SOLDER-114] Fix documentation of how the properties files for the translations should be named.
[06:34:43] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-114] Error on the documentation about the logging [Closed (Done) Bug, Major, James Perkins] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-114
[06:34:43] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master 4dedbfb.. George Gastaldi Merge pull request #36 from jamezp/SOLDER-114...
[06:34:44] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/7de5278...4dedbfb
[06:42:10] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop 8b28471.. Shane Bryzak updated version numbers, removed combined module
[06:42:10] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/94455cd...8b28471
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[06:48:14] <gastaldi> hey all
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[06:49:15] <gastaldi> hey lightguard_jp !
[06:51:23] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop bf2be94.. Shane Bryzak fix test configuration
[06:51:23] <jbossbot> git [solder] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/8b28471...bf2be94
[06:51:57] <gastaldi> hey sbryzak
[06:54:22] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: http://pastebin.com/amGqqyER is an example of the persistence+faces issue with XPC i mentioned
[06:54:36] <nickarls> (changing machnies, back in a while)
[06:58:26] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master bbe28b0.. Shane Bryzak fix compiler error, update solder dependency
[06:58:26] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/a13ee21...bbe28b0
[06:58:26] <sbryzak> gastaldi: heya
[06:58:55] <gastaldi> I see Seam Transactions was born
[06:59:32] <gastaldi> Cool
[06:59:42] <sbryzak> yeah, working on it
[06:59:47] <gastaldi> We should get a module page then later :)
[07:00:05] <gastaldi> way to go
[07:00:45] <gastaldi> Is it intended to run on J2SE also ?
[07:02:28] <sbryzak> it's just a split from the persistence module at the moment
[07:03:07] <gastaldi> right
[07:04:37] <gastaldi> Cool
[07:04:47] <gastaldi> I got a lot of ideas popping out
[07:05:06] 
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[07:10:40] <gastaldi> right, gotta go
[07:10:42] <gastaldi> see ya !!
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[07:30:21] <nickarls> what's Transactions supposed to do? Just a split-out from all transaction stuff in other modules?
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[08:00:00] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: I think that problem may be a bug in your code
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[08:00:49] <stuartdouglas> If you use a non-extended pc in a transaction ,then you call a SFSB with an XPC that has already been bound, you get an exception
[08:01:17] <stuartdouglas> basically the persistence context propagation rules suck
[08:04:39] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: this hasn't been enforced in pre-AS7?
[08:05:03] <stuartdouglas> not sure, you will need to give more info on exactly what your app is doing
[08:05:33] <stuartdouglas> does it use a pc in a transaction, then call a SFSB with a different XPC bound?
[08:06:05] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: started with the AS7 maven archetype, added faces and persistence, added the bean and called it from a button
[08:06:19] <stuartdouglas> can you send it to me?
[08:06:32] <nickarls> so the pc-usage must come from the faces-persistence phaselistener(?)
[08:06:36] <nickarls> sure.
[08:06:59] <stuartdouglas> that should not really count, the SMPC is an application managed EntityManager
[08:07:04] <stuartdouglas> which is different
[08:08:04] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: sent to the gmail address
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[08:08:47] <nickarls> the only changes from the archetype is the seam faces + transactions + joda-time in pom.xml, the Pinger bean and a call to it from index.xhtml
[08:12:42] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: just saw your JSF race
[08:16:44] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: the bootstrapping thing?
[08:16:48] <stuartdouglas> yea
[08:16:55] <nickarls> annoying one
[08:16:57] <stuartdouglas> also I know what is causing the problem
[08:17:11] <stuartdouglas> MemberRegistration.getNewMember is being called
[08:17:12] <nickarls> then it's half fixed! ;-)
[08:17:33] <stuartdouglas> as AS7 is treating then @Injected em as a container managed em
[08:17:36] <stuartdouglas> which is is
[08:18:16] <stuartdouglas> so really, I think the best solution is don't use container managed XPC's
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[08:19:33] <nickarls> hmm, so you can't call a XPC method if there has been other non-XPC em calls from the same page?
[08:19:51] <stuartdouglas> hmm, actually I need to look into it some more
[08:20:27] <stuartdouglas> it's kinda weird, you can the first time, and the transaction scoped em gets bound to the XPC bean
[08:20:33] <stuartdouglas> but the second time, it does not work
[08:20:41] <stuartdouglas> it's all in the jpa spec
[08:20:59] <stuartdouglas> And I have no idea why they settled on that particular set of rules
[08:22:04] <stuartdouglas> actually it may be a bug
[08:22:10] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop f780183.. Shane Bryzak removed transaction packages, updated pom
[08:22:10] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/35b9f0f...f780183
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[08:22:47] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: i'm getting the following when building persistence now - any ideas?  Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Error launching test at http://localhost:9090/test/ArquillianServletRunner?outputMode=serializedObject&className=org.jboss.seam.persistence.test.jetty.HibernateSearchTest&methodName=testFullTextEntityManager. Got 503 (Service Unavailable)
[08:23:18] <stuartdouglas> are there any logs our output?
[08:23:31] <stuartdouglas> it looks like a deployment failure for the test
[08:24:05] <sbryzak> where would i look for logs?
[08:24:20] <sbryzak> there's nothing else in surefire-reports
[08:24:23] <sbryzak> just the test failures
[08:24:27] <sbryzak> they all have the same exception
[08:24:34] <stuartdouglas> you may need to set a redireceTestOutput flag in pom.xml
[08:24:38] <stuartdouglas> or something like that
[08:25:06] <stuartdouglas> alternatively maybe try starting jetty manually, and see what happens
[08:25:11] <stuartdouglas> I know that works for AS7
[08:25:14] <stuartdouglas> not sure about jetty though
[08:26:42] <sbryzak> i'll see if i can get some better error
[08:28:54] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: can you explain why it works if I take out faces+persistence? ;-)
[08:29:10] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop 893ace1.. Shane Bryzak removed combined dir, removed transaction packages
[08:29:10] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/f780183...893ace1
[08:29:20] <stuartdouglas> magic !
[08:29:37] <nickarls> black magic in this case
[08:30:17] <stuartdouglas> actually I am pretty sure this is a bug
[08:30:36] <nickarls> TransactionPhaseListener is evil. Tried @Veto:ing it with Seam Config and it got pissed off and gave me a NPE.
[08:30:57] <nickarls> Then I tried @ViewConfig:ing it our with /* and it gave me another exception
[08:31:30] <nickarls> then I ripped it out from the DelegaringPhaseListener and noticed that I missed it when I got my first lazyloadingexception
[08:32:20] <nickarls> so for me AS7 is working fine but my applications don't deploy consistently and my transactions don't work ;-)
[08:33:04] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master e76c2bf.. Shane Bryzak fix implementation artifact id
[08:33:04] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/bbe28b0...e76c2bf
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[08:35:37] <stuartdouglas> Actually I am not really sure about the spec requirements here
[08:35:53] <stuartdouglas> it kinda implies that the transactional pc gets promoted to an extended pc
[08:37:05] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop 7cab6b6.. Shane Bryzak add required dependencies
[08:37:05] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/893ace1...7cab6b6
[08:39:06] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: actually I think the current behaviour is right and the spec is just stupid
[08:39:23] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop 6f7064c.. Shane Bryzak removed transaction tests
[08:39:23] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/7cab6b6...6f7064c
[08:39:31] <stuartdouglas> I am investigating why it works without faces + persistence
[08:39:48] <nickarls> \o/ "It will all be fixed in the next spec version" :-)
[08:40:05] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop ab84a78.. Shane Bryzak removed transaction test classes
[08:40:06] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/6f7064c...ab84a78
[08:40:47] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: yeah, I would be happy with some workaround in seam so that the AS6-version could be ported more easily...
[08:43:03] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master cd36792.. Shane Bryzak added transaction tests
[08:43:03] <jbossbot> git [transaction] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/transaction/compare/e76c2bf...cd36792
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[08:51:38] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop cfd9c9a.. Shane Bryzak added missing util classes
[08:51:38] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/ab84a78...cfd9c9a
[08:52:39] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: i've almost got the tests working
[08:52:58] <sbryzak> however the jbossas tests are looking for an as6 install
[08:53:03] <sbryzak> is it easy to update them to as7?
[08:53:21] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: Seam Faces  + Seam Persistence start a transaction
[08:53:44] <stuartdouglas> the behaviour is different if a transaction is started
[08:53:58] <stuartdouglas> as then all the em access is in the scope of a single transaction
[08:54:05] <stuartdouglas> I may have fixed the jsf bootstrap issue
[08:56:02] <stuartdouglas> sbryzak: it may require an arquillian upgrade
[08:56:21] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: is that a question for aslak?
[08:56:26] <stuartdouglas> what version of are is persistence on atm?
[08:56:33] <stuartdouglas> arq
[08:56:40] <stuartdouglas> stupir lion auto correct
[08:56:58] <sbryzak> not sure
[08:57:03] <stuartdouglas> gah, and it did not auto correct the actual typo
[08:57:08] <sbryzak> i think whatever was in 3.0.0.Final
[08:57:18] <stuartdouglas> That won't work with AS7
[08:57:43] <stuartdouglas> you will need to bump it to the latest version of arquillian
[08:57:49] <stuartdouglas> which requires some changes
[08:57:54] <stuartdouglas> as some annotations etc have changed
[08:58:19] <stuartdouglas> also you will need to confirm that the jetty container has been released for the latest version
[08:58:38] <sbryzak> so currently it's a mix of versions
[08:58:55] <sbryzak> 1.0.0.CR1 for some arq bits, 1.0.0.CR2 for others
[08:59:21] <stuartdouglas> they should work
[08:59:34] <sbryzak> actually, that's in the parent snapshot
[08:59:43] <sbryzak> so persistence won't be using it currently
[08:59:53] <sbryzak> i'll update the parent and try it again
[09:06:01] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: was the workaround for the faces/persistence jsf lifecycle wrapping-transaction?
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[09:06:19] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: don't use XPC
[09:06:22] <stuartdouglas> just use the SMPC
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[09:08:34] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: refresh my memory, was the SMPC also for e.g. @SessionScoped PC:s
[09:12:58] <stuartdouglas> you could use it for session scoped PC's
[09:13:24] <stuartdouglas> but in general session scoped PC's are probably a bad idea
[09:18:15] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: do you know how to configure the jboss as version in arquillian?
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[09:19:14] <sbryzak> ah, i think i worked it out
[09:20:48] <stuartdouglas> sbryzak: you need to use the as7 container, rather than the as6 one
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[09:26:04] <sbryzak> we don't seem to have any as7 stuff set up for arq in seam parent yet
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[09:39:14] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: ngh, anything at all that can be done in TransactionPhaseListener so XPC:s can be used? One dev has some where un-orthodox stuff going on (class-level @PC) annotations for some non-EE EM usage) so I'm stuck with PC/XPC :-/
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[09:40:00] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: You need to disable seam managed transactions
[09:40:50] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: what's the recommended way of doing that?
[09:41:20] <stuartdouglas> you should be able to do it using the view config enum approach
[09:41:26] <stuartdouglas> I would have to look into the faces code
[09:41:41] <nickarls> I think I got some strange exception when I tried the /* mapping
[09:41:42] <stuartdouglas> I think blathem changed it since I originally wrote it
[09:41:50] <stuartdouglas> what was the exception?
[09:41:58] <nickarls> have to check it out...
[09:42:18] <stuartdouglas> there should also be just some global way to disable the phase listener
[09:43:00] <nickarls> tried @Veto in seam-config, died
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[09:50:16] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: this is the attempt: http://pastebin.com/UYFdaz6x
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[10:00:28] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: and doing a http://pastebin.com/6a524hUb just results in a hung page (chrome icon spinning, not all images loaded, no actions)
[10:12:12] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop 25c5c58.. Shane Bryzak update versions
[10:12:13] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/cfd9c9a...25c5c58
[10:15:26] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop 5f1323b.. Shane Bryzak update version
[10:15:27] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/25c5c58...5f1323b
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[11:06:57] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: any chance you could debug the hung page and figure out what has hung?
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[11:21:55] <oranheim> JIRA is under heavy load / unavailable and CI is down. Who's the right folks to notify in order to get it up and running again?
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[12:06:15] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: is there any convenient way of doing a thread dump to see where it hangs?
[12:06:30] <stuartdouglas> there is in intellij
[12:06:46] <stuartdouglas> if you connect in a debugger or a profiler you should be able to get a thread dump
[12:07:31] <stuartdouglas> you can also get a dump from jconsole
[12:07:38] <stuartdouglas> but it is less friendly to use
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[12:27:44] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: don't have intellij, jconsole shows a lot of threads but hard to tell what hangs.
[12:32:48] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: jstack -l gave http://pastebin.com/PTkdbBUj
[12:34:21] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: hmm, looks like a thread is blocked on the SFSB
[12:36:17] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: so how do I reproduce this?
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[12:55:00] <oranheim> How do I debug from eclipse using jboss-as-arquillian-container-managed (7.0.0.Final)?
[12:55:54] <oranheim> I'm able to run my test case from eclipse, but not able to hook into as7 debugging
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[12:57:58] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: hmm, for the archetype-generated app I don't get a hang but I get the transaction exception even if I tried @ViewConfig to disable transaction management
[12:58:32] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: It is hanging in DBResourceDataLoader.load
[12:58:47] <stuartdouglas> DBResourceDataLoader is a SFSB, and it's lock is not being released
[12:59:00] <stuartdouglas> which could be a problem with a synchronisation not being called
[12:59:06] <stuartdouglas> or something else
[12:59:14] <stuartdouglas> can you paste bin the logs?
[13:00:08] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: AS level trace logs or which?
[13:00:20] <stuartdouglas> yes, AS trace logs
[13:00:30] <nickarls> BTW: did you see that your JSF bootstrap fix didn't work?
[13:00:38] <stuartdouglas> it didn't?
[13:00:39] <stuartdouglas> damn
[13:01:00] <stuartdouglas> I did not get any more failures, but I only got 1 before the fix anyway
[13:01:11] <stuartdouglas> is there a jira for this?
[13:01:34] <nickarls> jep (looking for #)
[13:02:09] <nickarls> AS7-1474
[13:02:11] <jbossbot> jira [AS7-1474] Intermittent JSF bootstrapping failure [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Stan Silvert] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-1474
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[13:03:38] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: Actually I have an idea what is may be
[13:04:04] <stuartdouglas> can you set a breakpoint or add some logging in org.jboss.seam.faces.transaction.TransactionPhaseListener.seamManagedTransactionStatus ?
[13:04:22] <stuartdouglas> I think that maybe the config is not being picked up when the transaction is being started
[13:04:33] <stuartdouglas> and then it is picked up later, and the transaction is not commited
[13:04:46] <stuartdouglas> so the transaction leaks, and the SFSB lock is never released
[13:15:19] <nickarls> stuartdouglas: http://pastebin.com/C4xYba6W
[13:15:57] <nickarls> I have a JSF 2 resource loader that fetches stuff from the DB, it must hang on the images, trying to load them from the DB with a SFSB
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[14:11:44] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop 23dcaa7.. Jozef Hartinger removed combined jar
[14:11:44] <jbossbot> git [rest] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/9fdb906...23dcaa7
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[14:32:12] <nickarls> ngh, why aren't SMPC defs picked up anymore in AS7: https://gist.github.com/1131666
[14:32:18] <nickarls> I'm sure I had it working yesterday
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[14:50:32] <jose_freitas> good morning
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[15:27:20] <sgilda> hi marekn: thanks for the help. it's all working now!
[15:28:03] <marekn> sgilda: hi Sande, great news
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[15:36:14] <sgilda> marekn: thanks again for the help and tips. they're great debugging tips to document for users
[15:37:02] <marekn> sgilda: np at all
[15:37:09] <sgilda> :)
[15:37:29] <marekn> sgilda: you can ask me whenever
[15:37:48] <sgilda> i plan to :). thanks!
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[17:49:47] <gastaldi> Hey all
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[17:50:35] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: How TDC was ?
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[19:10:22] <gastaldi> humm... Nice statements from Seam Cron in the dev list
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[19:11:32] <edburns> pmuir: Hello, are you here?
[19:11:57] <edburns> pmuir: Hello, please consider voting for JSR-350 State Management.
[19:12:20] <edburns> It's a new JSR that will, I hope, eventually allow me to offload a lot of the complexity in JSF state saving to another JSR.
[19:12:28] <jose_freitas> hey gastaldi tdc wasn't this weekend
[19:12:42] <jose_freitas> gastaldi: how you doing?
[19:12:45] <gastaldi> Fine
[19:14:28] <gastaldi> edburns: Cool !
[19:15:48] <jose_freitas> is there a way to access a resource from a jar as a file (not as a stream)
[19:16:15] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: Fetch it as a URL and call toFile() ?
[19:16:50] 
[19:17:14] <jose_freitas> there's a getFile but it returns a string
[19:17:21] <jose_freitas> which can be used to create a file
[19:17:30] <jose_freitas> but I'm getting a non readable exception
[19:17:33] <gastaldi> hum
[19:17:47] <gastaldi> What is the value of this String ?
[19:18:05] <jose_freitas> it's a path to the file
[19:21:44] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: If you do "new File(path).exists()", is it true ?
[19:22:35] <jose_freitas> yeah
[19:22:42] <jose_freitas> at least this is my guess
[19:22:49] <jose_freitas> but it's not readable
[19:22:52] <gastaldi> hummm
[19:22:54] <jose_freitas> let me make sure of that
[19:25:28] <gastaldi> ah yeah, TDC is August 20th and 21st
[19:25:30] <gastaldi> :)
[19:25:32] <gastaldi> doh
[19:25:40] <edburns> gastaldi: TDC in what city?
[19:25:44] <edburns> Floripa?
[19:25:48] <gastaldi> Yup
[19:26:01] 
[19:26:06] <edburns> Ahh,  I wish I was coming.  Yes, I was there in 2009.
[19:26:13] <gastaldi> in TDC ?
[19:26:37] <gastaldi> Cool ! You should come again !
[19:26:48] <gastaldi> And we may hang out together ! :)
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[19:27:05] <jose_freitas> that'd be great :)
[19:27:14] <gastaldi> hehe
[19:27:27] 
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[19:28:38] <gastaldi> edburns: I remember you lectured on a hotel in Floripa
[19:28:49] <gastaldi> Mercure Itacorubi if I am not mistaken
[19:29:22] 
[19:29:44] <gastaldi> hannelita: Hi !
[19:30:13] <gastaldi> hannelita: How is your article going ?
[19:31:15] <hannelita> gastaldi: Hi gastaldi! I've sent an mail about it ;)
[19:31:24] <gastaldi> hum when :
[19:31:24] <gastaldi> ?
[19:32:15] <hannelita> gastaldi: Saturday :P
[19:36:02] <gastaldi> Thought there were some news around it :)
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[19:37:21] <gastaldi> hey bleathem
[19:39:03] <gastaldi> ...
[19:39:07] <gastaldi> ** crickets ***
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[20:14:14] <pmuir> edburns: hi yes, state mgmt has red hat support,
[20:15:41] <edburns> pmuir: Ok, thanks, so you voted yes?
[20:17:19] <pmuir> i'm not sure if we have voted or not yet, but if we haven't then we do intend to vote yes but haven't got around to it
[20:17:39] <pmuir> bill knows about this anyway
[20:17:59] <edburns> pmuir: Ok, thanks.  Please make sure the task of voting yes is completed during the requested time period.
[20:18:01] <edburns> Great.
[20:18:24] <pmuir> edburns: yes we will ;-)
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[22:33:30] <gastaldi> yo
[22:34:07] <jose_freitas> yo biatch
[22:34:18] <gastaldi> hahaha
[22:34:24] <gastaldi> Daamn
[22:34:36] 
[22:35:27] <gastaldi> yo wutz goddie
[22:35:42] <gastaldi> Translated to 'hey whats up"
[22:35:44] <gastaldi> :)
[22:39:02] <gastaldi> be righto back
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[22:43:12] <jose_freitas> hahah
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[23:39:58] <gastaldi> hey
[23:40:12] <gastaldi> Anyone working on Seam Cron around ?
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[23:44:36] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push develop d2163a3.. Marek Schmidt fixing the numberguess example, SEAMWICKET-32, SEAMWICKET-33
[23:44:37] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMWICKET-32] wicket-numberguess - dependencies incorrectly scoped [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Bug, Minor, Marek Schmidt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMWICKET-32
[23:44:38] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMWICKET-33] wicket-numberguess - fails to deploy on GlassFish due to missing slf4j dependency [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Marek Schmidt] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMWICKET-33
[23:44:38] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push develop 9d7dabd.. George Gastaldi Merge pull request #8 from maschmid/fixexample...
[23:44:38] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/wicket/compare/96a4e86...9d7dabd
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