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[00:20:00] <flashboss> done
[00:20:01] <flashboss> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-115
[00:20:06] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-115] Load the MessageBundle from expression language [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-115
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[02:08:20] <johnament> sbryzak, ping
[02:08:35] <sbryzak> johnament: pong
[02:09:13] <johnament> sbryzak, question, are you planning to use the OCM support in seam jcr for university?
[02:09:45] <sbryzak> what's that?
[02:10:05] <johnament> automatic conversion of nodes into concrete objects
[02:10:21] <johnament> and vice versa
[02:10:38] <sbryzak> i wasn't aware it had such a feature.. is it synonymous with jaxb?
[02:10:56] <johnament> well, it was the feature i was hoping to finish during the hackfest
[02:11:18] <sbryzak> ah, well so far i haven't been using it, just the standard jcr "api" i guess
[02:11:23] <johnament> conversion's done, now i'm creating a way to provide "dao"s via service handlers.
[02:11:52] <johnament> yeah, it's not even in alpha2.  i'm planning for beta1.
[02:12:09] <johnament> I was hoping to leverage university as a demo of the feature if it's an option
[02:13:20] <sbryzak> sure, i can probably make use of it
[02:13:28] <sbryzak> will just need guidance from you ;)
[02:15:57] <johnament> sbryzak, it'd basically automate this block of code https://github.com/seam/university/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/university/action/ContentSearch.java#L37
[02:16:09] <johnament> and probably a few others
[02:16:54] <sbryzak> ah, that would be nice
[02:17:25] <sbryzak> so is that feature still a work in progress?
[02:17:43] <johnament> it should be in the current snapshot.
[02:18:02] <johnament> @Inject NodeConverter
[02:18:20] <johnament> org.jboss.seam.jcr.ocm.NodeConverter
[02:18:47] <johnament> the dao version is still coming. hopefully tonight.
[02:18:49] <sbryzak> are there any examples that use it currently?
[02:18:52] <sbryzak> ah no problem
[02:19:46] <johnament> sbryzak, just the test case right now https://github.com/seam/jcr/blob/develop/tests/modeshape/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/jcr/ocm/OCMExtensionTest.java
[02:20:27] <sbryzak> cool, well keep me posted with the dao feature and i'll try it out when it's ready
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[02:22:07] <johnament> will do
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[03:04:29] <johnament> is anyone using arquillian cr2 yet?
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[03:42:29] <gastaldi> Hey johnament
[03:43:41] <gastaldi> Crickets
[03:43:58] <johnament> hey gastaldi !
[03:44:33] <gastaldi> Got that List explanation ?
[03:44:51] <johnament> well i see what you're doing in the repository resolver
[03:45:21] <johnament> and i'm expanding it to do what i need for service handlers
[03:45:38] <gastaldi> Hum
[03:47:37] <gastaldi> Got A gist ?
[03:48:15] <johnament> not yet
[03:48:35] <johnament> the issue i ran into is that jcr configuration is not a qualifer
[03:48:38] <johnament> qualifier
[03:49:45] <gastaldi> Yeah, we agreed it was not necessary atm
[03:50:00] <johnament> i remember that vaguely :-)
[03:50:03] <gastaldi> Why should it be ?
[03:50:08] <johnament> dunno yet
[03:50:41] <johnament> i was going to reuse how it loads sessions in the service handlers
[03:50:59] <gastaldi> Its not a qualifier anyway I guess
[03:51:21] <gastaldi> Hum
[03:52:41] <gastaldi> K gotta go
[03:52:44] <gastaldi> See ya
[03:52:59] <gastaldi> Brb later
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[05:55:04] <jbossbot> git [xwidgets] push master 9044fe9.. Shane Bryzak Open ID authentication support
[05:55:04] <jbossbot> git [xwidgets] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/xwidgets/compare/cce191f...9044fe9
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[06:00:48] <gastaldi> yo !
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[14:01:04] <jose_freitas> morning guys
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[16:43:06] <ssachtleben> hey
[16:43:14] <ssachtleben> some pages got hacked lately
[16:46:50] <ssachtleben> http://www.seamframework.org/Documentation/DesignOverview
[16:47:05] <ssachtleben> http://www.seamframework.org/Seam3/Seam2ToSeam3MigrationNotes
[16:47:11] <ssachtleben> http://www.seamframework.org/Documentation/RunningSeamExamplesWithApacheTomcat
[16:47:17] <ssachtleben> http://www.seamframework.org/Documentation/AnExampleSeamMessageDrivenBeanMDBUsage
[16:47:18] <jose_freitas> yea, ssachtleben, this has been our lately nightmare
[16:47:30] <ssachtleben> http://www.seamframework.org/Documentation/HowDoIUseMultipleDynamicEntityManagersInSeam
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[16:47:35] <ssachtleben> at least these ^^
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[18:05:02] <ssachtleben> damn I cant connect to my server jvm through jconsole :(
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[18:31:55] <ssachtleben> is it not possible to connect to jconsole through ssh?
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[20:46:38] <gastaldi> hey
[20:57:19] <gastaldi> hey jose_freitas lightguard_jp
[20:57:41] <gastaldi> sbryzak rmartinelli and all others :)
[20:59:29] <gastaldi> sbryzak: Are you around ?
[20:59:47] <jose_freitas> hey gastaldi
[21:00:27] <gastaldi> You know, I am dying to see Seam 2 architecture into Seam 3
[21:00:38] <gastaldi> Like, Actions, Entities, Forms
[21:00:46] <gastaldi> The Page Flow stuff
[21:01:29] <gastaldi> that might be already around, but not so explicit as it was
[21:02:04] <gastaldi> If a team starts using Seam 3 compared to Seam 2 they are completely different, even in concept
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[21:03:43] <gastaldi> We should somehow take all the modules and productize it
[21:04:00] <jose_freitas> gastaldi: but I think it's not bad to be different
[21:04:35] 
[21:05:12] <gastaldi> Because of being different, people find it "hard" to use
[21:05:26] <jose_freitas> I don't see that way. seam2 didn't have jee6 to back it up
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[21:05:43] <gastaldi> True
[21:06:00] <jose_freitas> right now, seam3 and jee6 walk side by side
[21:06:22] <jose_freitas> and you can have a much cleaner architecture based on the platform itself
[21:06:31] <gastaldi> I completely agree
[21:06:48] <jose_freitas> that's the beauty of it for me
[21:06:57] <jose_freitas> you can add extensions
[21:07:02] <jose_freitas> as you need too
[21:08:19] <gastaldi> Yeah, but that may add some complexity related to understanding, for Seam 2 user developers for example
[21:08:41] <jose_freitas> true
[21:09:01] <gastaldi> They say like "Where do I create the action ? And the form? "
[21:09:20] <gastaldi> There should be a standard for it
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[21:09:49] <jose_freitas> I wasn't a seam2 user, so I don't miss those features, but I understand that this could be hard on them.
[21:10:14] <gastaldi> hannelita is an experienced Seam 2 user
[21:10:25] <gastaldi> she can tell her experience on it I suppose
[21:10:35] 
[21:12:00] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: Hey George
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[21:18:13] <gastaldi> hey lightguard_jp
[21:18:19] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: yes?
[21:18:48] <gastaldi> Are you following the previous chat ?
[21:18:55] <lightguard_jp> Not really.
[21:19:34] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, I've seen that a lot.
[21:19:57] <lightguard_jp> We need something to take the place of SAF, but Home and Entity objects are not it. They sucked
[21:20:24] <lightguard_jp> The rest of pages.xml we probably need to create a converter, or be able to read the pages.xml
[21:20:33] <lightguard_jp> and create the ViewData info from it.
[21:20:49] <lightguard_jp> Brian said it's backed by a data structure of some kind, so it should be possible.
[21:23:15] <gastaldi> Well, the problem here is not migrating a Seam 2 app to a Seam 3
[21:23:24] <gastaldi> But the impedance on each fw]
[21:25:04] <gastaldi> Impedance mismatch
[21:26:40] <gastaldi> In terms of starting a new app and the know-how from the developers
[21:26:53] <gastaldi> working previously with Seam 2
[21:27:15] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, it's a documentation issue.
[21:27:20] <lightguard_jp> And example issue.
[21:29:21] <gastaldi> right
[21:29:38] 
[21:30:00] <gastaldi> I believe a tutorial should exist, just as Seam 2 has
[21:30:11] <gastaldi> With step-by-step explanations
[21:30:39] <gastaldi> And using each module resolving each orthogonal feature
[21:31:49] <lightguard_jp> hang, back later
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[22:11:21] <ssachtleben> anyone know how to connect to jboss jmxremote through ssl port forwarding?
[22:11:41] <ssachtleben> tried now like 1000 possible configurations :(
[22:11:59] <ssachtleben> locally with localhost hostname it worked directly
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[23:09:12] <gastaldi> hey lincolnthree
[23:09:22] <lincolnthree> hey gastaldi
[23:09:37] 
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[23:10:27] <lincolnthree> you're about to see
[23:10:50] <gastaldi> (Lighning and thunder)
[23:10:58] <lincolnthree> 5
[23:10:59] <lincolnthree> 4
[23:11:01] <lincolnthree> 3
[23:11:07] <lincolnthree> 2
[23:11:08] <lincolnthree> 1
[23:11:10] * gastaldi farts
[23:11:10] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 2be2849.. Lincoln Baxter, III Updated Maven Dependency API to support getting the full dependency tree
[23:11:11] <jbossbot> git [core] push master fb39469.. Lincoln Baxter, III Removed XML plugin repository
[23:11:11] <jbossbot> git [core] push master ca1e7b9.. Lincoln Baxter, III Removed plugin repository from build
[23:11:11] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 59064c7.. Lincoln Baxter, III Fixed broken tests due to improper build result invalidation
[23:11:12] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 6d9e0bd.. Lincoln Baxter, III Merge branches 'modules' and 'master'
[23:11:12] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 3654f12.. Lincoln Baxter, III Plugin building and loading is working
[23:11:14] <jbossbot> git [core] push master f5c05e7.. Lincoln Baxter, III maven API is now loading correctly in modules
[23:11:14] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 4af32a5.. Lincoln Baxter, III Updated JavaDocs, Enhanced plugin installation to place dependencies in a sub-module
[23:11:15] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 0c504c5.. Lincoln Baxter, III fixed ZIPfile basedir
[23:11:15] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 87d0a6f.. Lincoln Baxter, III Fixed assembly excludes for modular build
[23:11:16] <jbossbot> git [core] push master f945ac5.. Lincoln Baxter, III JBoss Modules is WORKING
[23:11:17] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 640cf78.. Lincoln Baxter, III Merge branch 'master' of github.com:forge/core
[23:11:17] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/47bb416...640cf78
[23:11:24] <gastaldi> yaaaaay
[23:12:04] <gastaldi> :)
[23:13:34] <lincolnthree> going home :)
[23:13:36] <lincolnthree> Beta1 soon
[23:13:40] <lincolnthree> check it out
[23:13:44] <lincolnthree> install the modules-build zipfile
[23:13:46] <gastaldi> wow
[23:13:53] <lincolnthree> rruss ^^
[23:13:57] 
[23:14:12] <gastaldi> Make mistakes frequently? #SeamForge fixes your plugins for you :) http://gist.github.com/11190
[23:15:08] <lincolnthree> :-D
[23:15:21] <lincolnthree> That's the power of installing plugins from source!
[23:15:32] <lincolnthree> wrong link tho
[23:16:07] <gastaldi> damn
[23:16:12] <lincolnthree> https://gist.github.com/1119005
[23:16:14] 
[23:16:18] <lincolnthree> yep
[23:16:21] <gastaldi> yeah, bad copy paste
[23:16:22] <lincolnthree> gotta run :)
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[23:16:32] <lincolnthree> actually could you do me a HUGE favor?
[23:16:33] <gastaldi> see ya
[23:16:48] <lincolnthree> gastaldi: ?
[23:16:51] <gastaldi> that depends on how hard would that be
[23:16:52] <gastaldi> :)
[23:17:04] 
[23:17:08] <lincolnthree> could you build forge from master, install the modular distribution, and see if it works on windows?
[23:17:11] <lincolnthree> also try installing a plugin or two?
[23:17:14] <gastaldi> Sure
[23:17:22] 
[23:17:44] <gastaldi> like, in 5 hours or so
[23:17:57] <lincolnthree> sure! send an email to forge-dev if I'm not online?
[23:17:57] <rruss> lincolnthree: don't you have a Windows VM? ;)
[23:18:05] <lincolnthree> rruss: nope, never went out to buy it
[23:18:10] <lincolnthree> also on the road up in albany atm :)
[23:18:17] <gastaldi> lincolnthree: No problem
[23:18:49] <lincolnthree> gastaldi: you da man :)
[23:18:51] <lincolnthree> ty
[23:19:06] <lincolnthree> back late tonight (6 hrs or so)
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[23:35:11] <gastaldi> It seems abandoned for me
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