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[12:45:43] <flashboss1> jamezp_afk , I tried it but it cannot be taken through expression language. I suppose you thought to use it in a jsp
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[18:41:05] <jamezp> flashboss: I would probably expose it through a backing style bean.
[18:41:55] <jamezp> It's been a while since I've done any JSP's, you can import statically in JSP's?
[18:48:45] <flashboss> jamezp?. no problem
[18:49:49] <flashboss> only thinking that anyone'ld prefer use the resource bundle instead of the @MessageBundle because writing a backing bean is minus confortable
[18:50:27] <jamezp> Yes, that makes sense.
[18:51:05] <flashboss> maybe you could write an automathism for it
[18:52:09] <flashboss> for example adding getter method in the annotation implementations?so they can be used inside el
[18:52:37] <flashboss> el script read only getter method in the classes
[18:53:12] <jamezp> So would making the method in the interface a getter style method work?
[18:53:26] <jamezp> e.g. getMyMessage() instead of myMessage?
[18:53:36] <flashboss> yes exactly
[18:54:03] <jamezp> In that case I would probably just use that in the interface.
[18:54:04] <flashboss> but it should be written in the implementation
[18:54:26] <flashboss> you need a method as:
[18:54:57] <jamezp> Well, the way it works it would have to be in the interface. We use the interface to return the appropriate implementation.
[18:55:02] <flashboss> String getMymessages() { return MESSAGES}
[18:55:33] <flashboss> you say using inner classes in the interface?
[18:57:22] <flashboss> it is an idea?.I should try
[18:57:33] <flashboss> maybe there is no need of the authomatism
[18:57:49] <jamezp> You could create a Messages class outside that has a bunch of getter methods.
[18:58:37] <flashboss> nice?..maybe the inner classes will be finally useful
[19:00:13] <flashboss> but I'm sure if the expression language engine can use them
[19:00:37] <jamezp> Maybe something like this https://gist.github.com/1116961
[19:01:12] <jamezp> You'd probably have to have the message methods in the interface use getter style naming.
[19:02:00] <flashboss> yes?.. I'm using the solder classes instead of jboss logging?.is it the same?
[19:02:53] <jamezp> I think so. I looked at the source for it and it seems to be.
[19:03:16] <flashboss> ok
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[21:05:42] <flashboss> nothing to do?.you can use only backing bean :)
[21:06:24] <flashboss> first..you need the @Named annotation?but it cannot be used in a interface
[21:08:41] <jamezp> Ah, maybe we should ask the Seam guys then :-) I'm not too familiar with Seam.
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[21:12:23] <flashboss> it's a rule?. you are forced to call the bean through the implementation class?never with the interfaces
[21:12:36] <flashboss> so you should get a @Named annotation in the Mymessages_$bundle
[21:12:58] <flashboss> and I understand it is not much elegant :)
[21:18:00] <flashboss> jamezp?an other solution could be avoid to use the .i18n extension and use for example _i18n
[21:18:15] <flashboss> so it goes in the classloader
[21:18:30] <flashboss> and it can be called as resource bundle
[21:19:24] <jamezp> We would have to have the solder guys handle that.
[21:19:59] <jamezp> We have projects already using that naming convention.
[21:21:54] <flashboss> is someone here?
[21:23:36] <jamezp> Probably not. kenfinnigan is the one who wrote the Solder integration.
[21:38:09] <flashboss> I'ld like join to them?.in theese days I have a few of free time
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[21:39:46] <flashboss> an other thing jamezp_afk ?. also the internationalization is not ok
[21:40:18] <flashboss> I've the locale it but I ever see the strings of the default implementation class
[21:40:29] <flashboss> 'it_IT'
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[21:49:15] <flashboss> resolved?. the keys in the properties file need to start with 'get' if I want a final format for expression languae
[21:49:53] <flashboss> it is very far away from el??
[21:53:15] <flashboss> I open a jira issue in solder
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[21:55:27] <jamezp> flashboss: Yeah, we definitely didn't plan for el usage :-)
[21:55:59] <jamezp> I'm in the process of a major refactor on the base logging tools now. It should make it a lot easier to extend.
[22:02:30] <flashboss> good
[22:02:59] <flashboss> I suppose it will be in jboss 8 :)
[22:03:28] <jamezp> Indeed it will. Gotta go for now. Might be back later tonight :-) Later
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[22:04:00] <flashboss> ok
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