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[00:00:37] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Ideas? http://seamframework.org/Community/SeamsecurityLoginFailedNPE#comment162031
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[00:01:33] <sbryzak> hmm, missing seam config was my first guess also
[00:01:37] <sbryzak> but it seems like that isn't the issue
[00:01:48] <lightguard_jp> Yeah
[00:01:58] <lightguard_jp> EAR deployment issue maybe?
[00:02:08] <lightguard_jp> AFAIK we don't have any EAR examples
[00:02:17] <sbryzak> that exception generally means that no identity stores were found
[00:02:23] <lightguard_jp> It's come up a few times on the forums about where to put jars and proper config
[00:02:45] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Right, I ran into that with the confbuzz example.
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[00:03:08] <lightguard_jp> I need to explore different setups with the JPA IDM.
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[00:03:23] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Does it have to be setup that way or can you combine parts into one entity?
[00:03:32] <sbryzak> i should log an error message when there's no identity stores configured
[00:03:33] <lightguard_jp> Say Identity and Creds on one entity.
[00:03:47] <sbryzak> you can combine them
[00:04:06] <sbryzak> JpaIdentityStore should recognize that you've done that, as long as it's annotated correctly
[00:04:14] <lightguard_jp> I'll have to try again, didn't work for me when I tried it in confbuzz.
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[00:04:26] <lightguard_jp> I may have had something annotated incorrectly.
[00:06:41] <sbryzak> lightguard_jp: where's the code?
[00:06:58] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: I switched it to the model in the docs
[00:07:03] <lightguard_jp> But it may be in the history
[00:07:09] <sbryzak> ah
[00:07:21] <lightguard_jp> https://github.com/LightGuard/seam-example-confbuzz
[00:07:31] <sbryzak> it should be easy to test the other configuration though.. just add a password field to your identity object entity
[00:07:34] <sbryzak> and annotate it
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[00:08:31] <sbryzak> it looks like you have it there already
[00:08:37] <sbryzak> https://github.com/LightGuard/seam-example-confbuzz/blob/develop/src/main/java/seam/example/confbuzz/model/Identity.java
[00:08:49] <sbryzak> there's credential and credential type fields
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[00:10:57] <lightguard_jp> But I also have them annotated in their own classes
[00:11:12] <lightguard_jp> https://github.com/LightGuard/seam-example-confbuzz/blob/develop/src/main/java/seam/example/confbuzz/model/IdentityCredential.java
[00:11:22] <sbryzak> try unsetting the credentialClass property in the configuration
[00:11:56] <sbryzak> it should use the fields in the Identity class instead
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[00:12:12] <lightguard_jp> Okay, I'll have to give that a try.
[00:12:21] <lightguard_jp> Going to finish up the Catch Forge plugin today.
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[00:14:04] <lincolnthree> :D
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[00:40:38] <gastaldi> wow http://code.google.com/p/xdocreport/ is way cool !
[00:40:56] <gastaldi> That will surely make Seam Reports a must !
[00:43:33] <gastaldi> Wonder if there is any licensing issue.
[00:43:40] <gastaldi> I think not :)
[00:45:27] <lightguard_jp> Interesting
[00:46:07] <lightguard_jp> Should this be in reports or templates?
[00:46:19] <lightguard_jp> It would be killer for email and other documents
[00:46:42] <lightguard_jp> Let the business people create the templates for the reports / email then use this.
[00:46:44] <lightguard_jp> Very cool.
[00:46:55] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: Be sure to put a JIRA in for that
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[00:51:31] <gastaldi> Reports
[00:51:40] <gastaldi> SEAMREPORTS-17
[00:51:41] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREPORTS-17] Evaluate XDocReport [Open (Unresolved) Story, Major, George Gastaldi] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREPORTS-17
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[00:56:09] <ssachtleben> gastaldi ping
[00:56:23] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: pong
[00:56:42] <ssachtleben> how do I kill the threads opend by jcr session?
[00:56:45] <gastaldi> hum
[00:56:49] <gastaldi> good question
[00:56:53] <gastaldi> Dunno
[00:57:02] <gastaldi> Maybe the guys in #modeshape would help ya
[00:57:04] <ssachtleben> when I upload 3 times 6 images I have 400 open threads :o
[00:57:46] <sbryzak> ssachtleben: buy more cpus
[00:57:53] <ssachtleben> :D
[00:58:10] <ssachtleben> and I allways save and logout
[00:58:10] <gastaldi> lol
[00:58:16] <ssachtleben> but the threads doesnt disapear
[00:58:21] <ssachtleben> they stay at running state
[00:59:15] <gastaldi> http://www.seamframework.org/ is down !!
[00:59:43] <ssachtleben> damn #modeshape is dead :S
[01:00:05] <gastaldi> ah, you need to get with rhauch
[01:00:12] <gastaldi> or bcarothers
[01:00:27] <gastaldi> they are cool guys
[01:00:31] <ssachtleben> I really hate the modeshape documentation
[01:00:37] <ssachtleben> no real world example at all
[01:00:43] <gastaldi> Ah yeah not very friendly :)
[01:00:58] <ssachtleben> no information about proper session handling
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[01:02:52] <jbossbot> git [reports] push openoffice-agori URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/0000000...9436bf9
[01:05:48] <bleathem> johnament seems to like modeshape
[01:05:59] <bleathem> ssachtleben: ping him about it next time you see him in IRC
[01:07:26] <ssachtleben> ok nice
[01:07:52] <ssachtleben> it works really awesome but currious about these open threads
[01:08:17] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop dc194c8.. George Gastaldi Removing openoffice module (moved to openoffice-agori branch)
[01:08:17] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/9436bf9...dc194c8
[01:10:03] <gastaldi> can anyone put a bullet in the http://www.seamframework.org/ server ?
[01:10:09] <gastaldi> or a bomb ?
[01:10:27] 
[01:10:33] <lightguard_jp> again?!
[01:10:48] <lightguard_jp> gah
[01:11:06] <lightguard_jp> Restarting
[01:11:14] <lightguard_jp> Give it ten minutes or so
[01:11:17] <gastaldi> ok
[01:11:35] <gastaldi> I contacted xdocreport guys. They are willing to help also
[01:11:45] <gastaldi> sooo nice
[01:11:46] <gastaldi> :)
[01:12:12] <ssachtleben> lol I found out because using Instance<Session> it allways creates a new repository which comes along with additional thread :D
[01:12:29] <lightguard_jp> Awesome.
[01:12:49] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: You should really be using Seam JCR
[01:12:52] <gastaldi> :)
[01:12:53] * lightguard_jp wishes there were help for Catch. No one seems interested, good thing it's a small module
[01:13:04] <gastaldi> Why ? Catch is perfect !
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[01:13:29] <ssachtleben> not sure why but last time I tried it cant find my modeshape repository
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[01:14:04] <gastaldi> sbryzak has used in Seam university
[01:14:26] <gastaldi> He wrote a smart piece of code to make it work
[01:14:34] <ssachtleben> does it support already credentials and dynamic folder ?
[01:14:36] <gastaldi> small too
[01:14:43] <gastaldi> credentials yeah
[01:15:01] <ssachtleben> yeah my prop is
[01:15:06] <gastaldi> What do u mean my dynamic folder ?
[01:15:09] <ssachtleben> I develop on windows and my server is linux
[01:15:22] <gastaldi> by
[01:15:24] <ssachtleben> I have 2 build profile which set the correct path to repository
[01:15:39] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: I'd like to do save points in Catch so you can start a save point and retry it with modified inputs if it fails.
[01:15:42] <ssachtleben> win: C:/data/... and linux /opt/repository/...
[01:16:14] <gastaldi> lightguard_jp: Wow, Using Continuations ?
[01:16:29] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: I am not sure what you mean.
[01:16:35] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: Not sure yet. It's an idea.
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[01:17:17] <ssachtleben> on seam jcr session injection you have to set properties path and repository path
[01:17:39] <ssachtleben> or is that path optional?
[01:18:14] <ssachtleben> because I have 2 build profile which replace the repository path in modeshape.xml depending on development and production
[01:18:26] <gastaldi> You may set the JNDI path
[01:18:46] <gastaldi> Make modeshape registered by default on Jboss
[01:19:01] <gastaldi> and use JNDI to fetch a Repository
[01:19:14] 
[01:19:21] <gastaldi> at least not in your code
[01:19:27] <ssachtleben> uhm read about that
[01:19:35] <ssachtleben> but didnt gave it a try
[01:19:42] <gastaldi> it works :)
[01:20:18] <ssachtleben> you have a link for fast setup tutorial?
[01:20:33] <ssachtleben> never provided something like that before
[01:20:50] <gastaldi> check JCR docs
[01:20:53] <gastaldi> Seam JCR Docs
[01:21:15] <gastaldi> Unfortunately I gotta run now. See ya later
[01:21:26] <ssachtleben> ok thanks alot :)
[01:21:41] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: You may also check seam university
[01:21:43] <ssachtleben> damn this file upload and handling takes alot of time :(
[01:21:49] <gastaldi> To see how it was done
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[02:45:47] <johnament> is sfwk.org down?
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[03:38:49] <sbryzak> lightguard_jp: ping
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[04:00:45] <gastaldi> hey folks
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[04:13:22] <sbryzak> hey gastaldi
[04:13:31] <sbryzak> oh, he quit
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[04:15:03] <gastaldi> back
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[04:46:08] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop e5cab29.. George Gastaldi Applied Seam 3 Formatting rules
[04:46:09] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/dc194c8...e5cab29
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[04:51:37] <gastaldi> maybe being attacked :P
[04:52:07] <gastaldi> sbryzak: You there ?
[04:52:14] <sbryzak> gastaldi: yes
[04:52:47] <gastaldi> sbryzak: Is it possible to make it into seam-parent pom the declaration of the maven-license-plugin ?
[04:53:06] <gastaldi> So that every seam module is guaranteed to have a license header
[04:53:23] <sbryzak> you mean a header in each source file?
[04:53:27] <gastaldi> yeah
[04:53:33] <sbryzak> i'd rather not have that in my modules
[04:53:40] <gastaldi> really ? Why not ?
[04:53:52] <sbryzak> it's not necessary, we have a license notice in the root
[04:54:05] <gastaldi> hum, ok
[04:54:13] <gastaldi> I thought it would be helpful
[04:54:32] <sbryzak> imho it's just extra clutter
[04:55:24] <sbryzak> all our distributions are clearly asl 2
[04:55:34] 
[04:55:56] 
[04:56:28] <gastaldi> but, anyway, just a suggestion :)
[04:57:11] <sbryzak> i'm not against you doing it, if you want it for your own module/s
[04:57:42] <gastaldi> sure, I am already using it on Seam Reports
[04:57:54] <gastaldi> I think there are other modules using it as well
[04:58:17] 
[05:00:13] <gastaldi> k
[05:00:38] <gastaldi> I am starting to look at XDocReport as a new impl for Seam Reports
[05:01:10] <gastaldi> As lightguard_jp suggested, it would make a great complement for Seam Mail or even Seam Template
[05:01:32] <gastaldi> But I believe Seam Reports is the right choice for it, any thoughts ?
[05:01:36] <sbryzak> i looked at that breifly, it seems pretty cool
[05:01:45] <gastaldi> yeah, and it works ! :)
[05:02:07] <sbryzak> yeah i think seam reports is probably the best place for it
[05:02:18] <gastaldi> Cool, glad you agree with me
[05:02:18] <sbryzak> although "reports" sounds a little specific
[05:02:24] <gastaldi> hum...
[05:02:28] <sbryzak> it's a pity we don't have a Seam Docs
[05:02:35] <sbryzak> that would be a little more generic
[05:02:44] <gastaldi> Maybe Seam Reports could be renamed to Docs ?
[05:02:58] <gastaldi> and Template be added as an implementation of it ?
[05:03:09] <sbryzak> it's always an option
[05:03:18] <sbryzak> let's not decide on that now though ;)
[05:03:23] <gastaldi> of course :)
[05:03:24] <gastaldi> heheh
[05:03:45] <gastaldi> something to be thought in the future
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[05:25:46] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: You pinged?
[05:26:09] <sbryzak> yeah, sfwk.org was down again
[05:26:15] <sbryzak> i've restarted it
[05:26:17] <lightguard_jp> Okay
[05:26:19] <sbryzak> and i'm keeping an eye on the logs
[05:26:29] <lightguard_jp> I don't know what's going on. It went down three times today.
[05:26:32] <sbryzak> it seems to be running out of memory
[05:26:33] <lightguard_jp> Is it ir2?
[05:26:53] <lightguard_jp> Odd. Lots of people hitting it?
[05:26:56] <sbryzak> i'm not sure exactly
[05:27:02] <sbryzak> i don't think there's a lot of people hitting it
[05:27:07] <lightguard_jp> hrm
[05:27:20] <lightguard_jp> If there's not a lot of traffic that's even more confusing then.
[05:27:33] <sbryzak> only 62 active sessions
[05:28:01] <sbryzak> 359 sessions on sfwk.org
[05:28:24] <sbryzak> that seems a little high...
[05:28:46] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Have you been watching the docbook thread on thecore?
[05:29:09] <lightguard_jp> The site says there's only three members online.
[05:29:20] <sbryzak> look on the admin page
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[05:29:53] <lightguard_jp> 409 Active
[05:30:53] <sbryzak> 394 now
[05:30:58] <sbryzak> at least they're expiring quickly
[05:31:34] <lightguard_jp> They're all fairly large sessions too.
[05:31:45] <lightguard_jp> 419 now
[05:32:34] <sbryzak> anyway, i'm tailing the log file so i'll keep an eye on it
[05:33:32] <lightguard_jp> A bunch expire then others take their place. Think we'd being attacked?
[05:33:53] <sbryzak> i don't think so
[05:34:01] <sbryzak> a real attack would take the site down pretty quick i think
[05:34:10] <sbryzak> our scalability is terrible
[05:48:16] <lightguard_jp> brb
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[05:53:18] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: If you're not watching the docbook discussion on thecore, it may be something for us to switch over to for our doc style
[06:18:28] <bleathem> I love how there is always some activity in the seam-dev channel
[06:18:41] <lightguard_jp> Yep, doesn't matter when you're on.
[06:18:49] <lightguard_jp> Which is both a good thing and a bad thing :)
[06:19:08] <bleathem> That's a great thing to have, and to try and maintain
[06:19:30] <bleathem> the richfaces channel is pretty quiet by comparison
[06:19:36] <lightguard_jp> It makes it very difficult to stay current though :)
[06:19:56] <lightguard_jp> The only time anything happens in #richfaces it seems is when there's a meeting.
[06:20:13] <lightguard_jp> I wonder if it's not as well known about the #richfaces channel
[06:20:14] <bleathem> "If a git commit is displayed in an IRC channel, and no one was around to see it, did that commit really happen" -- deep thoughts
[06:20:25] <lightguard_jp> There are a lot of people that use it (probably more than use Seam)
[06:20:36] <bleathem> I think seam has the benefit of having a significant community developper base
[06:20:56] <bleathem> I really want to try and encourage more community developers for the project
[06:21:30] <bleathem> I've been trying to emulate some of the things you and Dan have already accomplished with the Seam project
[06:21:45] <bleathem> Jay is really receptive to it, so that's great
[06:22:20] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: What about RSS feeds or other notifications?
[06:22:31] <lightguard_jp> git would say it happened
[06:22:49] <bleathem> lightguard_jp: 'twas a joke
[06:22:55] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: Yes, I know :)
[06:23:01] <bleathem> a play on the old "tree falling in the forest"
[06:23:08] <bleathem> lightguard_jp: cool, just checking
[06:23:10] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: Jay is more than welcomed to come ask us questions or get ideas.
[06:23:10] <bleathem> :P
[06:23:23] <bleathem> Jay is a busy man
[06:23:25] <lightguard_jp> First should be reading at least the first chapter of "The Art of Community"
[06:23:37] <bleathem> I need to order that book
[06:23:41] <lightguard_jp> I'd go as far as saying it should be required reading for all JBoss devs
[06:23:46] <lightguard_jp> PDF is free
[06:23:52] <bleathem> oh, didn't know that
[06:24:43] <lightguard_jp> http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-now-available-for-free-download/
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[06:25:00] <lightguard_jp> For the quick link: http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/downloads/jonobacon-theartofcommunity-1ed.pdf
[06:25:18] <bleathem> pdf downloading
[06:25:25] <bleathem> thx
[06:25:38] <bleathem> although I have a RichFaces book I should be reviewing right now
[06:25:43] <bleathem> keep forgetting about that
[06:25:55] <lightguard_jp> The new one?
[06:26:06] <bleathem> yeah
[06:26:10] <lightguard_jp> When is RF 4.1 due?
[06:26:24] <bleathem> fall
[06:26:31] <bleathem> similar time frame as Seam 3.1 i think
[06:26:41] <bleathem> for similar reasons
[06:26:46] <lightguard_jp> Also are there going to be any HTML changes to current components? Some of them really are a PITA to style because they're so nested or they use tables instead of divs and some CSS
[06:26:50] <lightguard_jp> Ah
[06:26:57] <lightguard_jp> Conference driven development
[06:27:01] <lightguard_jp> :)
[06:32:36] <bleathem> file jiras for styling issues that you come across
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[06:34:15] <gastaldi> hey
[06:34:36] <gastaldi> I need an opinion on Seam Reports structure
[06:34:36] <bleathem> it's going to take some time before I can tackle styling issues as a whole, as it spreads across all the components
[06:34:40] <bleathem> hey gastaldi
[06:34:44] <gastaldi> Hey bleathem !
[06:35:11] <bleathem> It's like 1:30am in Florianopolis - go to bed!
[06:35:23] * bleathem loves his gnome clock
[06:35:41] <hannelita> I think gastaldi never sleeps :P
[06:35:54] <bleathem> lol
[06:36:14] <bleathem> hannelita: he did recommend me to drink some red bull earlier - maybe that's his secret!
[06:36:33] <gastaldi> haha
[06:36:34] <gastaldi> Yeah
[06:36:37] <gastaldi> It is ! :)
[06:36:44] <gastaldi> Sleep is for the weak ! :D
[06:36:51] <hannelita> bleathem: RedBull looses its effect after the 3rd day
[06:37:22] <hannelita> maybe gastaldi has some Seam Sleepless moduled embedded on himself :)
[06:37:25] <gastaldi> haha
[06:37:30] <gastaldi> Lol
[06:37:43] <bleathem> My first experience with Red Bull was at a night club in Rio.  It was highly effective :P
[06:37:55] <gastaldi> Cool
[06:38:31] <bleathem> but that was a lifetime ago
[06:38:44] <gastaldi> You should come over sometime
[06:38:51] <hannelita> Oh, yes! Do you guys mind if I blog about seam hack night on Aug 11?
[06:38:57] <bleathem> One day I'll make it back
[06:39:18] <gastaldi> hannelita: You MUST do it
[06:39:18] <gastaldi> :)
[06:39:24] <bleathem> hannelita: any blogging about the hack night  would be greatly appreciated!
[06:40:02] <gastaldi> Seamllians never sleep
[06:41:28] 
[06:41:41] <hannelita> Sure, I'm writing the post right now
[06:41:47] <hannelita> in portuguese and in english
[06:41:48] <gastaldi> Nice
[06:42:05] <gastaldi> there you go Seam girl !
[06:42:09] <hannelita> Might help to get more ppl for the next sean hack night
[06:42:21] <hannelita> I'll try to be here coding with you
[06:42:22] <hannelita> :)
[06:42:23] <gastaldi> That would be great
[06:43:19] <gastaldi> We hope so, after all I guess the last one was not THAT successfull at all
[06:43:42] <gastaldi> It lacked publicity
[06:44:33] <gastaldi> Anyway, can anyone give me a hint on a Seam Reports design issue ?
[06:46:37] <gastaldi> :(
[06:47:20] <gastaldi> Yeah, I DEFINITLY need to cut caffeine
[06:47:43] <gastaldi> Red bull is killing me, not giving me any wings at all
[06:47:46] <gastaldi> :)
[06:48:52] <hannelita> sfwk still down?
[06:49:59] <gastaldi> hannelita: Still down :(
[06:50:29] <gastaldi> sbryzak: you there ?
[06:50:40] <gastaldi> or lightguard_jp
[06:50:48] <gastaldi> Is it possible for the next Seam Hack to be Seam Reports ?
[06:51:05] <gastaldi> I think I am getting it nearly done
[06:52:07] <lightguard_jp> If you'd like to sponsor one before the official one, sure, but we're going to do Security for August
[06:52:16] <lightguard_jp> Say in two weeks
[06:53:01] <gastaldi> Hum, yeah, I was thinking after that
[06:53:20] <gastaldi> But I liked your idea
[06:57:03] <gastaldi> lightguard_jp: I got some questions about how to integrate Seam Catch x Seam Reports
[06:58:32] <lightguard_jp> Okay
[07:00:03] <gastaldi> Each implementation in Reports has its own Exception (JRException for Jasper, ReportProcessingException for Pentaho and XDocReportException for XDocReport)
[07:00:43] <gastaldi> Is there a way to isolate the implementations and have them wrapped in a ReportException without any try/catch in the impl ?
[07:00:58] <gastaldi> Humm....
[07:01:05] <lightguard_jp> w/o a try catch? hrm
[07:01:12] <gastaldi> Unless I create a proxy for it
[07:01:36] <gastaldi> Yeah, tough one, specially if the exception is checked.
[07:01:41] <gastaldi> I hate checked exceptions
[07:01:46] <lightguard_jp> The easiest of course would be to use a try / catch block.
[07:01:52] <lightguard_jp> Let me think a minute
[07:02:34] <gastaldi> If you see any class in impl, you will check I am catching and rethrowing the exception in a wrapped ReportException
[07:02:52] 
[07:03:07] <gastaldi> Something to think about, no worries
[07:05:43] <lightguard_jp> Well, you could create an Observer for ExceptionStack
[07:05:48] <lightguard_jp> And modify the Exception stack
[07:05:54] <lightguard_jp> By changing the exception
[07:06:27] <lightguard_jp> You'd only need the Catch API for that
[07:06:55] <gastaldi> Is it a good idea to couple Seam Reports with the Catch API in the impl ?
[07:07:12] <lightguard_jp> It's only an observer
[07:07:16] <lightguard_jp> You only need it to compile
[07:07:21] <gastaldi> hummm
[07:07:33] <lightguard_jp> If Catch is there then it'll transform the exception for you
[07:07:50] 
[07:07:55] <gastaldi> It sounds reasonable
[07:08:04] <gastaldi> Thanks !
[07:08:11] <lightguard_jp> You'll have to make sure the ExceptionStack contains an exception you want to modify other wise you'll screw it all up.
[07:08:16] <lightguard_jp> For each exception.
[07:08:37] <lightguard_jp> That could possibly be redone, but it's been in Catch since the 3.0.0.Beta
[07:09:32] <lightguard_jp> You'll want to use the setCauseElements method which modifies the ExceptionStack in place
[07:10:04] <gastaldi> nice
[07:10:18] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: That'll be the only way to do it w/o a try/catch
[07:11:18] <gastaldi> nice
[07:11:37] <gastaldi> Registered in SEAMREPORTS-18
[07:11:38] <lightguard_jp> This is actually why it's in there :)
[07:11:40] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREPORTS-18] Support for Seam Catch [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREPORTS-18
[07:11:54] <lightguard_jp> So you can modify what you handle, like SQLExceptions
[07:12:05] <gastaldi> cool
[07:12:51] <gastaldi> Wow, thank you very much
[07:12:52] <lightguard_jp> Grr, I see Lincoln commenting on Forge JIRAs but he's not online
[07:12:56] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: Sure
[07:13:06] <gastaldi> lol
[07:13:11] <lightguard_jp> One more reason Catch is AWESOME
[07:13:17] <gastaldi> No doubt about it
[07:13:36] <lightguard_jp> I need to create an import, but there's no import builder and I don't want use the ImportImpl
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[07:14:10] <gastaldi> I mean, no issues at all ! :)
[07:14:12] <lightguard_jp> Well, it's only for a test so using the ImportImpl wouldn't be too bad
[07:14:36] <lightguard_jp> Because there are so few issues there probably won't be a Seam Hack Night for Catch
[07:14:57] <gastaldi> Maybe a Seam Hack Morning :)
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[07:46:56] <lightguard_jp> I think Lincoln is going to go crazy with all the tickets I've opened for Forge
[07:49:19] <gastaldi> lol
[07:49:32] <gastaldi> How many ?
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[07:50:08] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop 5121b2a.. George Gastaldi Removed ReportDataSource
[07:50:09] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop 47d7072.. George Gastaldi Added support for XDocReport
[07:50:09] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/e5cab29...47d7072
[07:50:31] <gastaldi> Major refactor
[07:50:53] <gastaldi> Now way cool than ever ! Seam Reports supports XDocReport ! :D
[07:52:30] <gastaldi> I removed the ReportDataSource interface
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[07:54:23] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop 0309275.. George Gastaldi Removed velocity.log from git
[07:54:23] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/47d7072...0309275
[07:55:32] <gastaldi> Checkit out how simple it has become: https://github.com/seam/reports/blob/develop/impl/xdocreport/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/reports/xdocreport/test/XDocReportsTest.java
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[07:58:08] <gastaldi> OK, sleep time now
[07:58:12] <gastaldi> see ya guys !
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[07:58:47] <bleathem> gastaldi goes to bed a 3am
[07:58:51] <bleathem> ouch!
[07:59:03] <bleathem> midnight for lightguard_jp
[07:59:27] <bleathem> hannelita: are you in florinaopolis as well?
[08:00:01] <hannelita> bleathem: No, I'm at Sao Paulo :)
[08:00:09] <bleathem> ah
[08:00:13] <bleathem> same time zone though?
[08:00:17] <hannelita> Yes
[08:00:23] <hannelita> 3AM here
[08:00:34] <bleathem> you don't have kids, do you?
[08:00:46] <hannelita> Well, I dont. :P
[08:00:49] <bleathem> I could never stay up till 3am, the kids would punish me in the morning for it!
[08:00:53] <sbryzak> gee you guys work late
[08:01:11] <bleathem> actually, that's not true, I stayed up till 3am a few nights for the Seam 3.0.0 release
[08:01:17] <bleathem> that was painful though :P
[08:01:21] <hannelita> LOL
[08:01:48] <bleathem> sbryzak: It's 11am for me, gonna read a chapter of the richfaces 4 book, and then it's bed for me
[08:02:08] <bleathem> 4pm for sbryzak according to my gnome clock
[08:02:09] <sbryzak> bleathem: i thought you'd be writing chapters by now, not reading them ;)
[08:02:16] <sbryzak> yep just hit 4pm
[08:02:24] <bleathem> sbryzak: 1 step at a time!
[08:02:38] <bleathem> sbryzak: I'm reviewing Max's and Ilya's book
[08:02:43] <hannelita> Take some redBulls :)
[08:02:43] <bleathem> or supporsed to be anyway
[08:02:50] <bleathem> hannelita: lol
[08:03:17] <hannelita> gastaldi should share his secret Seam Sleepless module code with us :P
[08:03:51] <bleathem> hannelita: I don't want to know what he is @inject'ing to stay awake at night!
[08:03:55] <sbryzak> we're only sleepless at release time
[08:04:08] <sbryzak> i was pretty much awake for 2 months in a row for the seam 3 release
[08:04:23] <bleathem> yeah, that was hardcore!
[08:04:33] <bleathem> I'm never going to forget that release
[08:05:00] <sbryzak> well it's about to start again
[08:05:11] <hannelita> :)
[08:05:14] <sbryzak> i can already feel my stress levels rising
[08:05:44] <bleathem> sbryzak: I'll be two-fisting it with a simultanewous RichFaces 4.1 release
[08:06:08] * bleathem wonders where his spell checker was on that one
[08:06:18] <sbryzak> do you have a release date?
[08:06:25] <bleathem> nothing official
[08:07:45] <sbryzak> oh i have a new twitter follower ;)
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[08:08:44] <hannelita> :)
[08:12:20] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: It's only midnight. Probably be up for at least another hour, maybe two
[08:12:50] <sbryzak> ffs, sfwk.org is down again
[08:12:54] <bleathem> lightguard_jp: what time do your minions wake up in the morning?
[08:13:03] <bleathem> sfwk.org has been going down all day
[08:13:17] <sbryzak> lightguard_jp: would you care to restart it please?
[08:13:38] <mbg> frustrating me in the process of editing the module page :D
[08:13:53] <sbryzak> this is the error: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM warning: Exception java.lang.OutOfMemoryError occurred dispatching signal SIGTERM to handler- the VM may need to be forcibly terminated
[08:13:58] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: About 9
[08:14:10] <bleathem> nice!
[08:14:25] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: We get lots of sessions and they all take up about .5 MB or more
[08:14:48] <lightguard_jp> started the restart
[08:15:38] <mbg> sbryzak: is the API/impl module divide a suggested best practice for Seam modules?
[08:16:46] <sbryzak> mbg: generally, yes
[08:17:02] <sbryzak> mbg: it allows us to swap in a different implementation for testing, etc
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[08:17:59] <lightguard_jp> mbg: Also keeps the compile dependencies down for the users, and helps keep the impl from bleeding through
[08:18:37] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: It's back
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[08:27:34] <mbg> lightguard_jp: true, especially if you can have multiple pluggable implementations. OTOH I'm considering a different module breakdown, by functional area - i.e. core/persistence/security/whatever, there's very little that can be really considered an API, especially as users would need access to the utility classes themselves. I'm wondering if an alternative breakdown would be more helpful.
[08:28:10] * mbg is not convinced either way
[08:28:37] <lightguard_jp> For what you're doing as it's mainly an integration module, I don't really see the need for an API artifact
[08:31:24] <mbg> lightguard_jp: yeah me neither. If anything, I'd rather create separate modules for integrating with individual seam modules (persistence, transaction, security, the-next-one-created-on-hack-night, etc)
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[08:33:24] <lightguard_jp> That I think makes more sense
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[08:45:36] <hannelita> hmm.. what time will be the seam hack night on Aug 11?
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[08:55:57] <lightguard_jp> hannelita: Do you use Google Calendar?
[08:56:18] <hannelita> lightguard_jp: I've already found it :)
[08:56:29] <hannelita> I'm blogging about the next seam hack night
[08:57:06] <lightguard_jp> hannelita: Okay cool. Thanks for the blog, be sure to tweet about it and we'll retweet from jbossseam
[08:58:38] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: Getting close to midnight for you, time for bed :)
[08:59:00] <bleathem> 3 more pages in the chapter
[08:59:06] <bleathem> then it's sounting sheep for me
[08:59:14] <hannelita> Done :) blogged here http://wp.me/p17dWd-28
[08:59:38] <bleathem> dtweet it, and put the link to the tweet here, I'll retweet it
[09:04:14] <hannelita> tweeted!
[09:04:50] <hannelita> I'll keep reminding ppl on Twitter for the nex weeks too
[09:05:26] <bleathem> retweeted!
[09:06:11] <sbryzak> retweeted brian's retweet
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[09:06:39] <lightguard_jp> Retweeted from jbossseam
[09:06:44] <lightguard_jp> And my account
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[09:07:14] <lightguard_jp> It's probably gone out to nearly 2000 people now
[09:07:18] <lightguard_jp> :)
[09:07:25] <hannelita> Hope so :)
[09:07:39] <bleathem> retweeted from RichFaces
[09:07:43] <bleathem> this is kind of fun!
[09:08:40] <bleathem> RichFaces has more followers than JBossSeam.  Just sayin'
[09:08:42] <hannelita> I'll post a portuguese version later :)
[09:11:02] <hannelita> well, cya later! Thanks for the Retweets!
[09:11:05] <lightguard_jp> How many does RichFaces have?
[09:11:11] <bleathem> cya hannelita!
[09:11:16] <bleathem> lightguard_jp: about 100 more
[09:11:19] <lightguard_jp> Anyone know who runs jbossnews?
[09:11:22] <bleathem> IOW, barely more
[09:11:23] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: Sweet
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[09:18:02] <bleathem> lights out.  I'll be back online in 7 hours!
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[13:15:13] <jose_freitas> ${inputBean.text}
[13:15:15] <jose_freitas> ops
[13:15:19] <jose_freitas> g'morning
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[15:22:05] <gastaldi> morning everyone !
[15:24:27] <jose_freitas> morning gastaldi
[15:24:34] <gastaldi> hey jose_freitas !
[15:24:36] <lincolnthree1> *chirp*
[15:24:43] <gastaldi> hahaha * crickets *
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[15:29:45] <gastaldi> Just implemented XDocReport support last night for Seam Reports
[15:29:52] <gastaldi> cool framework
[15:33:13] <gastaldi> It so fun to work on these modules :)
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[15:36:55] <gastaldi> hey bleathem !
[15:37:01] <gastaldi> Do you ever sleep ? :)
[15:37:10] <gastaldi> or you are on Red Bull ?
[15:37:12] <bleathem> g'morning gastaldi!
[15:37:19] <bleathem> I slept a little bit :P
[15:37:34] <bleathem> no Red Bull, but I'll brew some coffee shortly
[15:38:22] <gastaldi> Sleep is only for the weak
[15:38:24] <gastaldi> :)
[15:49:06] <lincolnthree1> i didn't sleep much last night
[15:49:11] <lincolnthree1> got a phone call at 7:00 am
[15:49:19] <lincolnthree1> eating chocolate to stay awake
[15:51:27] <gastaldi> holy crap
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[15:52:55] <bleathem> lincolnthree1 it's not even 7am here yet :(
[15:53:11] <bleathem> stupid neighbors dog was barking his head off
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[15:58:08] <lincolnthree1> i prefer music (if anything); it's less distracting
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[16:00:53] <bleathem> lincolnthree1: TMI
[16:01:03] <lincolnthree1> what?
[16:01:13] <bleathem> Too Much Information
[16:01:17] <lincolnthree1> about what?
[16:01:19] <gastaldi> hahahahaha
[16:01:25] <gastaldi> Unneeded info
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[16:01:36] <bleathem> your preference for music, as it's less distracting
[16:01:42] <lincolnthree1> why is that TMI?
[16:02:27] <bleathem> ...
[16:02:32] <gastaldi> lol
[16:02:33] <lincolnthree1> :p jk. lol
[16:02:49] * bleathem awkward
[16:02:52] <bleathem> lol
[16:02:58] <lincolnthree1> I like to go where no man has gone before
[16:03:06] <gastaldi> the moon ?
[16:03:08] <lincolnthree1> (in terms of making conversations awkward)
[16:03:09] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop 6de14de.. George Gastaldi Using Map as DataSource
[16:03:09] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/0309275...6de14de
[16:03:22] <bleathem> lincolnthree1 success!
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[16:19:09] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop d60c774.. George Gastaldi Added support for OpenOffice/LibreOffice
[16:19:09] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/6de14de...d60c774
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[17:42:37] <edburns> emmanuel: Hello, are you here?
[17:43:06] <emmanuel> edburns: yes
[17:43:37] <edburns> emmanuel: I'd like to give you a heads up to be on the lookout for a mail from Steve Caruso and/or Kyle Grucci about a JSR-303 TCK issue.
[17:43:44] <edburns> emmanuel: Have you received that mail yet?
[17:44:24] <emmanuel> I've received a few emails but nothing today specifically
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[18:09:49] <edburns> emmanuel: I can confirm we are all set for the moment.  Did you see my membership request for 349?
[18:10:03] <emmanuel> yes I've voted it
[18:10:17] <emmanuel> the PMO has to circle back I imagine edburns
[18:10:39] <edburns> yes, that's all you can do is vote on it.  Thanks.
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[18:12:42] <gastaldi_> Hey
[18:13:08] <gastaldi_> Is jboss as7 jdk 7-ready ?
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[18:13:47] <emmanuel> gastaldi: I think it runs yes
[18:13:55] <emmanuel> there are not specific optimizations for it though
[18:14:01] <gastaldi_> Cool
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[19:06:55] <gastaldi> Is there method in Solder that allows a safe-cast operation ?
[19:07:25] <gastaldi> I mean, try to cast and if not, throw a defined exception
[19:14:15] <gastaldi> ah, nevermind. I am stoned :)
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[19:34:57] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop 5704a4b.. George Gastaldi SEAMREPORTS-10: Added conversion to PDF support for xdocreport
[19:34:59] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREPORTS-10] Dynamic reporting from customer template [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, George Gastaldi] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREPORTS-10
[19:34:59] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/d60c774...5704a4b
[19:35:38] <ssachtleben> hehe ;D
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[19:42:51] <gastaldi> hum, I am using a Qualifier on each implementation to distinguish from each impl
[19:42:57] <gastaldi> Is that a right thing to do ? :P
[19:43:43] <gastaldi> THe bad side is that you must depend on the impl in your code because of this qualifier :P
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[19:44:06] <gastaldi> Hummmm
[19:44:49] <gastaldi> I could create a new annotation in the API and then on each implementation Extension bind the qualifier to this new annotation
[19:45:10] <gastaldi> that would allow me to have a code completely separated from IMPL
[19:45:15] <gastaldi> Any thoughts ?
[19:46:05] 
[19:57:22] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop 0fc030e.. George Gastaldi Renamed annotation and added support for Freemarker
[19:57:22] <jbossbot> git [reports] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/reports/compare/5704a4b...0fc030e
[19:59:28] <clerum> bleathem: ping
[19:59:43] <bleathem> clerum: pong
[20:00:03] <clerum> got a quick question on the UIInputContainer with faces
[20:00:22] <clerum> if I do something like this https://gist.github.com/b0c716f79d8a621cd526
[20:00:37] <clerum> and I have a <f:ajax> inside the composite component
[20:00:57] <clerum> the f:ajax can't reference an id outside of the component
[20:01:17] <clerum> and I'll get a message "<f:ajax> contains an unknown id 'contactName' - cannot locate it in the context of the component j_idt25"
[20:01:36] <bleathem> prepend the target id with a ":" and fully qualify it
[20:01:38] <lincolnthree1> you need to use the fully qualified component ID
[20:01:44] <lincolnthree1> starting with ? yes, ":"
[20:02:09] <clerum> as in formid:componentid
[20:02:18] <lincolnthree1> as in :formid:component
[20:02:21] <clerum> gottcha
[20:02:24] <bleathem> so like ":form:contactName
[20:02:43] <bleathem> wow, there's some serious echo in here :P
[20:02:45] <lincolnthree1> just another JSF gotcha
[20:02:51] <lincolnthree1> it should really be smarter
[20:02:54] <lincolnthree1> and figure it out for you
[20:02:58] <gastaldi> lincolnthree1: Can you change the Github listener of forge/plugin-seam-reports to output to jbossbot in here ?
[20:03:02] <clerum> thats just with composite components right?
[20:03:07] <bleathem> lincolnthree1 use richfaces. it is smarter
[20:03:17] <lincolnthree1> gastaldi: sure 1 sec
[20:03:23] <gastaldi> Thanks
[20:03:28] <bleathem> w/ richfaces, you can define regions you want to update
[20:03:30] <clerum> it works if I just use wrap it with div's and what not
[20:03:43] <clerum> k
[20:04:03] <bleathem> nothing wrong with specifying the fully qualified id though
[20:04:38] <bleathem> and if you are in a composite component, you use:
[20:04:38] <bleathem> :#{coponent.clientId}:myId
[20:04:41] <clerum> just less convient
[20:04:42] <bleathem> or something like that
[20:04:43] <jbossbot> git [plugin-seam-reports] push master ec41042.. George Gastaldi Refactored help message
[20:04:43] <jbossbot> git [plugin-seam-reports] push master 121c92a.. George Gastaldi Changed module name
[20:04:43] <jbossbot> git [plugin-seam-reports] push master b3ff89f.. George Gastaldi Added support for XDocReport
[20:04:43] <jbossbot> git [plugin-seam-reports] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/plugin-seam-reports/compare/159aef7...b3ff89f
[20:04:45] <clerum> but yeah it works fine
[20:04:46] <clerum> thanks
[20:04:50] <bleathem> np
[20:04:51] <lincolnthree1> ok, there you go gastaldi
[20:04:57] <gastaldi> Thanks !
[20:05:36] <clerum> also does the UIInputContainer only do the wiring for h:message
[20:05:40] <gastaldi> sbryzak: You there ?
[20:05:43] <bleathem> now gastaldi can get his vanity fix :P
[20:05:45] <clerum> it seems to fail with a primefaces p:message
[20:05:53] <gastaldi> hehe
[20:06:00] <gastaldi> The spanner thing ?
[20:06:02] <clerum> doesn't wire the for=""
[20:06:03] <bleathem> clerum: I don't know.
[20:06:04] <clerum> k
[20:06:13] <bleathem> why you using primefaces?
[20:06:16] <bleathem> ;(
[20:06:21] <bleathem> :'(
[20:06:21] <gastaldi> Blasphemy !!!
[20:06:27] <lincolnthree1> tear*
[20:06:42] <clerum> client like the polish better
[20:06:50] <bleathem> pfft
[20:06:53] <clerum> and skinning
[20:07:12] <clerum> I wish richfaces suppored themeroller
[20:07:30] <bleathem> themeroller is tied to jqueryUI
[20:07:30] <jose_freitas> me too
[20:07:31] <jose_freitas> :)
[20:07:34] <bleathem> which richfaces doesn't use
[20:07:50] <clerum> right
[20:07:56] <bleathem> but maybe we could put something similar together - richfaces *is* highly skinable
[20:08:02] <gastaldi> Primefaces is kinda a JQuery UI for JSF
[20:08:04] <bleathem> someone file a jira for that!
[20:08:20] <bleathem> Primefaces *is* JQuery UI for JSF
[20:08:25] <gastaldi> yeah
[20:08:34] <lincolnthree1> and you have to admit
[20:08:37] <lincolnthree1> it looks pretty nice
[20:08:40] <gastaldi> indeed
[20:08:45] <jose_freitas> yeah
[20:08:49] <lincolnthree1> there's something to be said for a great out-of-box experience
[20:08:51] <clerum> there is a jira already on that
[20:08:52] <bleathem> it does look nice - definite advantages to that approach
[20:08:53] <lincolnthree1> richfaces needs that
[20:08:59] <clerum> richfaces is much more powerful
[20:09:03] <lincolnthree1> richfaces needs to look good from day 1
[20:09:06] <clerum> but primefaces is just more polished visually
[20:09:13] <gastaldi> Let Red Hat buy Primefaces and merge it into Richfaces
[20:09:13] <lincolnthree1> people don't apreciate power, they appreciate polish
[20:09:17] <bleathem> but there is a cost to wrapping jQuery UI
[20:09:19] 
[20:09:31] <clerum> and primefaces makes certian things very easy
[20:09:35] <bleathem> gastaldi: richFaces would olose a lot if it wrapped jQuery UI
[20:09:38] <lincolnthree1> only when they need power do they begin to look for it
[20:09:46] <gastaldi> bleathem: really ? Where ?
[20:09:49] <lincolnthree1> they will always start with what's straightorward and easy first
[20:10:02] <clerum> The dialog from prime is so much easier than rich http://www.primefaces.org/showcase-labs/ui/dialog.jsf
[20:10:13] <clerum> little things like that
[20:10:19] <jose_freitas> lincolnthree has a really good point
[20:10:30] <clerum> yep
[20:10:32] <jose_freitas> I like richfaces as a framework
[20:10:33] <bleathem> gastaldi: personally, I really appreciate the integration between jQuery/javscript that richfaces provides
[20:10:48] <bleathem> lincolnthree1 I agree, there is definite room for improvement
[20:10:49] <jose_freitas> but I prefer prime as a visual component lib
[20:10:52] <clerum> nice that I have control over the position of the close "x" on the richfaces modal
[20:11:05] <clerum> but I wish it was just there by default if I don't care in the upper right
[20:11:23] <gastaldi> I agree with jose_freitas to use Richfaces as the framework and Primefaces as the visual part
[20:11:28] <bleathem> clerum: file jiras for that kind of stuff - it's easy to fix
[20:11:56] <bleathem> so what I'm hearing is the RichFaces skinning needs some love
[20:11:56] <clerum> will do
[20:11:58] <gastaldi> Take the polished one and the robust one and merge it as one
[20:12:00] <bleathem> understood
[20:12:08] <lincolnthree1> bleathem: definitely
[20:12:08] <gastaldi> Agreed
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[20:12:20] <lincolnthree1> richfaces is *fugly* out of the box
[20:12:21] <bleathem> pull requests accepted! :P
[20:12:25] <jose_freitas> hahah
[20:12:28] <gastaldi> hahahaha
[20:12:33] <lincolnthree1> own
[20:12:49] <gastaldi> nice one
[20:12:53] <bleathem> I love open source, best cop-out ever!
[20:12:57] <gastaldi> yeah
[20:13:13] <lincolnthree1> i know, it's great isn't it?
[20:13:14] <bleathem> seriously though, thanks for the feedback
[20:13:51] <clerum> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RF-8934
[20:13:53] <jbossbot> jira [RF-8934] Theme roller application [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RF-8934
[20:14:11] <gastaldi> sbryzak: awake ?
[20:14:28] <gastaldi> or frozen ?
[20:15:12] <gastaldi> Kill a kangaroo and use its skin as a roof, problem solved :)
[20:15:16] <jose_freitas> bleathem: http://community.jboss.org/thread/170025 wdyt?
[20:16:55] <bleathem> OMG, RF-8934 is schedule for 4.1.0.Final !!
[20:16:55] <bleathem> better get on that!
[20:16:56] <jbossbot> jira [RF-8934] Theme roller application [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RF-8934
[20:17:17] <jose_freitas> nice!
[20:17:18] <gastaldi> hahaha
[20:17:24] <gastaldi> Hurry up !
[20:18:07] <bleathem> jose_freitas: why bother with primefaces? why not just use the RichFaces CDK to wrap jQuery UI?
[20:18:09] <gastaldi> We must thank Jay for that
[20:20:24] <bleathem> jose_freitas: answered as such in the forums
[20:20:47] <jose_freitas> bleathem: I'm looking for a way to use both
[20:21:25] <jose_freitas> prime has a really good component set (out-of-box, as stated by lincolnthree)
[20:21:45] <jose_freitas> but I might try this wrapping as well
[20:22:09] <bleathem> I should wrap a jqueryUI component with th CDK as an exercise, and blog about it
[20:22:15] <bleathem> you could use that as a starting point
[20:22:24] <jose_freitas> cool, please do :)
[20:22:33] <bleathem> look for it in August
[20:22:45] <jose_freitas> great
[20:22:56] <bleathem> I'd add it to my todoist list if the stupid app was functional atm
[20:22:56] <jose_freitas> :)
[20:23:33] <lincolnthree1> bleathem: just like i need to blog about my charts here:
[20:23:38] <lincolnthree1> http://ocpsoft.com/research/
[20:23:41] <lincolnthree1> which use richfaces
[20:23:43] <lincolnthree1> and google charts
[20:24:26] <bleathem> lincolnthree1 +1 !
[20:24:49] <jose_freitas> bleathem: do you still works with "new month" resolutions?
[20:25:05] <jose_freitas> work*
[20:25:26] <gastaldi> bleathem is now a pomodoro guy
[20:25:41] <bleathem> pomodoro FTW !
[20:25:44] <gastaldi> :)
[20:25:48] <lincolnthree1> Of course the site is taking forever to load? guess i might need to bounce the server
[20:26:03] <bleathem> jose_freitas: I vaguely remeber "new month resolutions" though :P
[20:26:42] <jose_freitas> hehehe
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[20:43:13] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree1: ping
[20:43:22] <lincolnthree1> pong
[20:43:55] <lightguard_jp> Question about testing forge plugins
[20:44:06] <lincolnthree1> shoot
[20:44:23] <lightguard_jp> If I have additional questions like you didn't give a package, so I'm going to ask you for one, how do you test that?
[20:44:38] <lightguard_jp> Make sure it gave you the question for one, and also input a response.
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[20:46:02] <lincolnthree1> you want to prompt for a package?
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[20:46:18] <lincolnthree1> im not quite following
[20:46:32] <lincolnthree1> oh
[20:46:36] <lincolnthree1> you have a prompt already
[20:46:38] <lincolnthree1> you want to test it
[20:46:41] <lightguard_jp> Yeah
[20:46:42] <lincolnthree1> you need to use:
[20:46:47] <lightguard_jp> I've already done an execute
[20:46:54] <lincolnthree1> queueInputLines(?);
[20:46:57] <lincolnthree1> before you execute
[20:47:17] <lightguard_jp> https://github.com/forge/plugin-seam-catch/blob/develop/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/exception/forge/test/CatchPluginTest.java
[20:48:06] <lightguard_jp> Okay, I'll have to look at the API (which unfortunately means reading the code due to a general lack of JavaDocs)
[20:48:21] <lightguard_jp> I've also submitted a few enhancement requests
[20:48:27] <lightguard_jp> You've probably seen them
[20:48:28] <lincolnthree1> it's a protected method in AbstractShellTest (and the like)
[20:48:32] <lincolnthree1> yeah, good issues
[20:48:33] <lincolnthree1> thank you
[20:48:59] <lincolnthree1> the test API is a bit undocumented
[20:49:00] <lightguard_jp> I'll keep adding them as I find them. May even find some time to fix them :)
[20:49:08] <lincolnthree1> but if you find places in the shell-api that don't have javadoc, let me know
[20:49:15] <lincolnthree1> most of it should (except maybe the javaparser)
[20:49:25] <lightguard_jp> Since we're in alpha if something really breaks (trying not to add breaking issues) does it matter?
[20:49:46] <lincolnthree1> yeah, if something is really broken, definitely report it
[20:49:48] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, java parser has been a big one with a lack of docs
[20:49:53] <lincolnthree1> or are you asking something else?
[20:50:05] <lightguard_jp> No, if I submit changes and they're not backwards compatible.
[20:50:11] <lincolnthree1> oh
[20:50:14] <lightguard_jp> Like some of the issues I've been reporting.
[20:50:18] <lincolnthree1> no that doesn't really matter right now
[20:50:22] <lightguard_jp> A lot of them it wouldn't change anything, but some may.
[20:50:33] <lightguard_jp> When are you trying to lock down the api, beta?
[20:50:40] <lincolnthree1> Yes
[20:50:47] <lincolnthree1> Basically as soon as I get JBoss Modules working
[20:50:47] <lightguard_jp> When is that scheduled?
[20:51:00] <lincolnthree1> As soon as I can figure it out.
[20:51:11] <lightguard_jp> Okay, so in other words, if you're going to submit api changes get them in now :)
[20:51:15] <lincolnthree1> It's complicated. I can't really give an estimate.
[20:51:22] <lincolnthree1> Yeah definitely.
[20:51:28] <lincolnthree1> It might be next week. It might be next month.
[20:51:37] <lightguard_jp> Gotcha
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[20:52:51] <lightguard_jp> Okay, queueInputLines takes a vararg string. Is that the input I want to send or the prompt I'm expecting?
[20:53:10] <lightguard_jp> If it's the first, is there a way to grab the prompt line to test it?
[20:54:42] <lincolnthree1> queued input lines will be read in the order that they are specified
[20:54:46] <lincolnthree1> they are used as input to the shell
[20:54:58] <lincolnthree1> if the shell asks for input and none is queued, an exception will be thrown
[20:55:07] <lincolnthree1> (failing the test)
[20:55:11] <lightguard_jp> Right
[20:58:56] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree1: Do you have to override the base initilizeJavaProject?
[20:59:05] <lincolnthree1> no
[21:05:15] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree1: little help please. https://pastee.org/2eacz
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[21:06:03] <lincolnthree1> you ran out of queued input
[21:06:24] <lightguard_jp> Right I got that, but it looks like it didn't take what I gave it.
[21:06:37] <lightguard_jp> The package is all garbled in the console
[21:07:01] <lincolnthree1> hm
[21:07:13] <lincolnthree1> file encoding issue?
[21:07:22] <lincolnthree1> shouldn't be since commands work
[21:07:27] <lightguard_jp> I'd hope not.
[21:07:49] <lincolnthree1> hm
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[21:08:42] <lightguard_jp> Here's what it looks like on the console (in IDEA): In which package would you like to create this Exception Handler container: c
[21:08:50] <lightguard_jp> Hm, looks like the list bit didn't copy
[21:09:00] <lightguard_jp> It's maybe a binary character
[21:09:04] <lincolnthree1> i'd debug it
[21:09:08] <lincolnthree1> see if the value is making it
[21:09:12] <lincolnthree1> that seems strange
[21:09:22] <lincolnthree1> are other tests working?
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[21:21:35] <ssachtleben> whats the best way to provide an resource which is not in my webapp?
[21:22:59] <ssachtleben> I want to show images from content repository on specific pattern like /resource/#{indentifier}
[21:28:06] <gastaldi> ssachtleben: From a URL ?
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[21:34:17] <gastaldi> wow, how do you know.. Jboss AS7 really works with JDK 7 ! :)
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[21:43:16] <ssachtleben> yeah from url
[21:43:40] <ssachtleben> currently I have a bean mapped to that url and s:viewAction method writes image content to outputstream
[21:43:41] <gastaldi> Why not create a servlet or a REST service that fetches the content?
[21:43:51] <ssachtleben> it works but I get javax.faces.FacesException: getOutputStream() has already been called for this response
[21:44:20] <gastaldi> Are you calling responseComplete() in the end ?
[21:44:27] <ssachtleben> nope :o
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[21:44:32] <gastaldi> FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().responseComplete()
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[21:45:03] <lincolnthree1> ssachtleben: http://ocpsoft.com/prettyfaces/serving-dynamic-file-content-with-prettyfaces/
[21:45:24] <gastaldi> There you go
[21:45:32] <gastaldi> You can see the responseComplete in there  :)
[21:45:41] <gastaldi> thanks lincolnthree
[21:45:45] <lincolnthree1> np
[21:45:52] <ssachtleben> ah nice works fine thanks :D
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[21:48:20] <ssachtleben> woot pf file upload, saving images in modeshape repository and output with pf lightbox works finally perfect :)
[21:50:13] <jose_freitas> :)
[21:50:19] <jose_freitas> bleathem ^
[21:51:02] <bleathem> jose_freitas: how far back do I have to read?
[21:51:11] <jose_freitas> 3 lines
[21:51:40] <jose_freitas> just about components used by ssachtleben
[21:51:49] <bleathem> pf lightbox and fileUpload??
[21:52:04] <lincolnthree1> bleathem: is getting ragged on today
[21:52:17] <jose_freitas> primefaces has some good components, it'd be really great if we could use both
[21:52:34] <bleathem> jose_freitas: I though ssachtleben was using both?
[21:52:40] <jose_freitas> yes he is
[21:52:59] <jose_freitas> but I mean, he's using both separatedly
[21:52:59] <bleathem> jose_freitas: are you saying ssachtleben is a genie?
[21:53:20] <bleathem> ssachtleben: are you using prime and rich faces together?
[21:53:50] <jose_freitas> I was meaning to use both mixed
[21:54:01] <bleathem> lincolnthree1 I don't mind, so long as the points raised are followed up with jira's, so they are not forgtten about
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[21:54:15] <bleathem> jose_freitas: that's what I mean too, I thoght that is what he was doing
[21:54:48] <lincolnthree1> bleathem: what was the JIRA i was supposed to send you yesterday?
[21:55:08] <bleathem> lincolnthree1: no idea :P
[21:55:12] <lincolnthree1> shit
[21:55:33] <bleathem> bleathem: I hear so many ideas all day long, between IRC and the forums, I can't keep track of it all without people filing jiras
[21:56:01] <bleathem> s/bleathem /lincolnthree1/
[21:56:02] <ssachtleben> bleathem yeah using richfaces 4 and primefaces 3 in one application :)
[21:56:07] <lightguard_jp> That's exactly why I tell everyone with ideas or bugs on the forums to post a jira
[21:56:12] <bleathem> jose_freitas: see!
[21:56:28] <bleathem> lightguard_jp: I do to, but sadly, I think many don't bother
[21:56:35] <bleathem> s/to/too/
[21:57:09] <ssachtleben> just rf4 fileupload doesnt work properly if using both but there is jira issue for that allready
[21:57:52] <ssachtleben> using for example pf lightbox together with a4j media output (images from jcr repository)
[21:57:55] <lincolnthree1> yep, same lightguard_jp
[21:58:07] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: That's their problem then if it never gets fixed
[21:58:11] <lightguard_jp> That's why we have bug trackers
[21:59:19] <lightguard_jp> I think I spent just as much time yesterday in JIRA as I did in code.
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[22:00:24] <jose_freitas> bleathem: ok ok, I got your point, but for me using them separatedly in one application is not enough. I want to use for example rich:clientValidation with p:inputText
[22:00:29] <jose_freitas> xD
[22:00:48] <bleathem> jose_freitas: oic, well now that's asking a lot!
[22:00:52] <bleathem> ssachtleben: RF-10978?
[22:00:54] <jbossbot> jira [RF-10978] Richfaces 4.0 Final fileUpload incomptible with Primefaces 2 [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RF-10978
[22:01:00] <ssachtleben> yep
[22:01:11] <lincolnthree1> richfaces has 10000 issues????
[22:01:16] <lincolnthree1> my lord
[22:01:25] <ssachtleben> I think they started with 10000 :P
[22:01:44] <lincolnthree1> nope
[22:01:50] <ssachtleben> uh ^^
[22:02:06] <lincolnthree1> that's insane
[22:02:12] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: Get to cleaning that up :)
[22:02:39] <bleathem> it's a well established project, what can I say! :P
[22:02:45] <ssachtleben> but bleathem if you have pf and rf working you would also prefer pf uploader :P
[22:02:56] <bleathem> The RichFaces jira is in fact very well organised
[22:03:15] <bleathem> ssachtleben: I disagree - I never liked the flash based file uploader
[22:03:25] <ssachtleben> its not flash based
[22:03:29] <bleathem> or has pf ditched the flash by now?
[22:03:29] <bleathem> ah
[22:03:30] <bleathem> used to be
[22:03:33] <bleathem> drove me nuts
[22:03:34] <ssachtleben> it works great
[22:03:38] <bleathem> when I was writing p apps
[22:04:13] <ssachtleben> uploaded >50 images at once and everything works really awesome :D
[22:04:18] <bleathem> ssachtleben: do we have jira issue for improvements you'd like to see in the RichFaces file upload component?
[22:04:39] <bleathem> is it specifically multi-file upload that's the problem?
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[22:05:22] <ssachtleben> I think its not possible on rf fileupload to select multiply files with one choose
[22:05:29] <bleathem> I think I should show up at JavaOne in a RichFaces mascot costume, with a big "kick me" sign on my back
[22:05:46] <ssachtleben> its not possible to configure auto upload (property lost between 3.3 and 4.0)
[22:05:46] <bleathem> ssachtleben: that should be fixed for sure
[22:05:59] <ssachtleben> so much user add files but dont click upload
[22:07:21] 
[22:07:41] <ssachtleben> and growl component owns :D
[22:07:50] <jose_freitas> I'd not* need to
[22:07:55] <ssachtleben> I will remove h:messages at all and only use growl :)
[22:08:11] <bleathem> jose_freitas: my goal would be to get RF to a point where you don't need PF
[22:08:18] <lincolnthree1> bleathem: do we have a richfaces costume? that would be awesome
[22:08:26] <jose_freitas> hahaha
[22:08:30] <bleathem> lincolnthree1: sic Dan on that!
[22:08:32] <ssachtleben> bleathem rf has no image gallery at all
[22:08:44] <bleathem> ssachtleben: I though exadel had one
[22:08:46] <bleathem> 1 sec
[22:09:13] <bleathem> livedemo.exadel.com/photoalbum/
[22:09:17] <bleathem> http://livedemo.exadel.com/photoalbum/
[22:09:23] <ssachtleben> pf has lightbox and image gallery which covers images displaying perfect
[22:09:38] <lincolnthree1> i often get confused when people type "pf"
[22:09:53] <bleathem> lincolnthree1: why would anyone be talking about prettyfaces?
[22:10:12] <lincolnthree1> bleathem: good question. it just works so nobody ever has any problems with it
[22:10:16] <bleathem> I count 106 open issues for RichFaces fileupload
[22:10:17] <ssachtleben> bleathem but thats not an out of the box component or?
[22:10:21] <lightguard_jp> Would F' be better?
[22:10:26] <lightguard_jp> Or 'f ?
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[22:10:38] <bleathem> ssachtleben: no, I don't beleive so
[22:10:46] <lincolnthree1> lightguard_jp: probably not
[22:10:58] <ssachtleben> http://www.primefaces.org/showcase-labs/ui/galleria.jsf
[22:11:05] <bleathem> ssachtleben: but I don't imagine it would be tough to put together a composite component of richfaces componetns that achieves some of what you are looking for
[22:11:39] <bleathem> ssachtleben: pretty component!
[22:11:54] <ssachtleben> why not provide an image gallery component?
[22:12:06] <ssachtleben> it will be used on much types of application
[22:12:10] <ssachtleben> at least in social media
[22:12:12] <bleathem> ssachtleben: we should!
[22:12:22] <bleathem> ssachtleben: just a question of prioroties and resources
[22:12:29] <lincolnthree1> basically, bleathem, just copy primefaces
[22:12:44] <bleathem> argh, This is frustrating
[22:12:50] <lincolnthree1> i'll put a JIRA in for that *joke*
[22:12:53] <jose_freitas> hahaha
[22:12:53] <ssachtleben> I like the extended datatable in rf
[22:13:05] <ssachtleben> with ajax search and true pagination
[22:13:13] <lincolnthree1> that's not a pretty component btw
[22:13:44] <lincolnthree1> *this* is a pretty component - http://ocpsoft.com/docs/prettyfaces/3.3.0/en-US/html/components.html
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[22:14:38] <bleathem> RF 4.x has had a single release - give us some time to catch up in terms of component count.
[22:14:38] <bleathem> When we do, our strengths will shine.
[22:14:53] <lincolnthree1> bleathem: we love you
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[22:15:07] <ssachtleben> yeah hopefully the next releases will contain the missing properties from rf 3.3
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[22:15:21] <ssachtleben> it seams like each component was ripped of some :D
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[22:15:51] <ssachtleben> ah and richfaces queue handling is nice :)
[22:15:58] <ssachtleben> i think primefaces doesnt have it at all or?
[22:15:59] <jose_freitas> lincolnthree: on my browser there're some characteres screwed up in your documentation. maybe UTF-8 is not set at metadada
[22:16:19] <ssachtleben> currently I think the best way is to use both libs :)
[22:17:42] <bleathem> In short, thanks all for the feedback!  We know we have work to do, keep pointing out your priorities to us.
[22:17:42] <bleathem> But also, thanks for recognizing that RichFaces has it's strengths!
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[22:18:48] <lincolnthree1> jose_freitas: yeah, im aware o fthat, it's annoying and strange
[22:19:41] <jose_freitas> it sure has bleathem :). and please, don't forget the blog post about cdk wrapping jqueryUI.
[22:19:44] * bleathem needs to get back to writing code!
[22:19:52] * ssachtleben too
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[22:20:30] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree1: Any ideas on that problem I'm seeing?
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[22:21:42] <lincolnthree1> lightguard_jp: 	no. do the other tests work on your machine?
[22:23:13] <lightguard_jp> Yep, all the others work
[22:23:29] <lincolnthree1> try adding more input lines
[22:23:37] <lincolnthree1> I'm guessing it really is hitting the end of input
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[22:23:47] <lightguard_jp> I ripped the package code from one of the core plugins too :(
[22:23:53] <lincolnthree1> and there may be a counting error somewhere in your test case
[22:24:10] <lincolnthree1> (counting how  many times input is read)
[22:24:17] <lincolnthree1> it may also be something weird with when the lines are queued
[22:24:19] <lincolnthree1> but i doubt it
[22:24:45] <lightguard_jp> It's like it doesn't even find the end of the input
[22:24:49] <lightguard_jp> Very strange
[22:24:58] <lincolnthree1> it finds it alright ;)
[22:25:15] <lightguard_jp> Earlier than I think it should
[22:25:33] <lincolnthree1> yeah
[22:25:40] <lincolnthree1> remember that every Y/n prompt reads a line
[22:25:47] <lincolnthree1> every "press enter to continue"
[22:25:48] <lincolnthree1> etc
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[22:27:01] <lightguard_jp> Hm
[22:27:15] <lightguard_jp> I tried just "com" and it still didn't work right
[22:27:24] <lincolnthree1> yeah
[22:27:33] <lincolnthree1> im saying i tihnk you might need to add more queued lines
[22:27:42] <lincolnthree1> just try putting the same value in a few times
[22:27:43] <lincolnthree1> see what happens
[22:27:50] <lightguard_jp> Okay
[22:27:55] <lincolnthree1> queueInputLines("com.foo", "com.foo", "com.foo");
[22:28:41] <lightguard_jp> Same problem.
[22:28:48] <lincolnthree1> that's strange
[22:29:07] <lincolnthree1> hmm
[22:29:21] <lincolnthree1> can you put your code up so I can try to run it?
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[22:31:16] <lightguard_jp> It's all there in github, just commented out the test
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[22:32:04] <gastaldi> hum, I need some help on writing docs for Seam Reports
[22:32:29] <gastaldi> I hate writing docs
[22:32:51] <gastaldi> and got no spare time to do that
[22:33:33] <lincolnthree1> lightguard_jp:
[22:33:33] <lincolnthree1>         this.queueInputLines(""); // Not sure why we do this...
[22:33:43] <lincolnthree1> because it gets you through a default prompt (Y/n)
[22:33:55] <lightguard_jp> I understand that now :)
[22:34:32] <lincolnthree1> lightguard_jp: what is this?       this.getShell().println("com.example.exceptionHandler");
[22:35:06] <lightguard_jp> A failed attempt at getting this to work, it's removed locally
[22:35:14] <lincolnthree1> yeah that just prints to the console
[22:36:07] <lincolnthree1> it looks like your first test fails as well as the last test
[22:36:46] <lightguard_jp> I only have one failing test locally
[22:36:54] <lincolnthree1> including the one you commented out?
[22:37:08] <lightguard_jp> Yep
[22:37:12] <lightguard_jp> That's the only one
[22:37:26] <lincolnthree1> ah
[22:37:37] <lincolnthree1> i'm guessing i don't have catch in my repo
[22:38:11] <lightguard_jp> be back in a bit.
[22:40:04] <lincolnthree1> my local maven repo is hosed. ugh
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[23:34:55] <gastaldi> hey mbg
[23:35:07] 
[23:35:08] <mbg> hey gastaldi
[23:35:28] <gastaldi> hummm Too bad there is no link for it on seamframework.org
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[23:36:08] <gastaldi> But its there: http://www.seamframework.org/Seam3/SpringModuleHome :)
[23:36:11] <mbg> no, I need to finish the page for it. I'll start doing most of the work after Aug 10, I am away until then. But at least I want to create the structure. etc
[23:36:15] <mbg> yes. the page is not done
[23:36:22] <gastaldi> cool
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[23:43:16] 
[23:43:22] 
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[23:43:42] <gastaldi> The only thing left is the docs
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[23:46:05] <gastaldi> Wow, this framework solved 3 issues in a row :D
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[23:46:31] <gastaldi> Support for DOCX, support for Velocity and Dynamic Customer template
[23:46:38] <gastaldi> How cool is that ?
[23:47:14] <gastaldi> lightguard_jp: you there ?
[23:47:29] <lightguard_jp> yes
[23:47:44] <gastaldi> I would love to see this thing released.
[23:47:53] <gastaldi> But the docs are quite poor :(
[23:48:58] 
[23:49:10] <gastaldi> And schedule it to the next version
[23:49:12] <gastaldi> WDYT ?
[23:50:01] <lightguard_jp> Sounds good to me
[23:50:09] <gastaldi> Cool
[23:50:13] <gastaldi> Can you release this stuff ?
[23:50:56] <gastaldi> or maybe shane ?
[23:52:39] <lightguard_jp> Either of us can
[23:53:04] <lightguard_jp> Could you send both of us an email with the version you want to release and one of us will get to it
[23:53:09] <gastaldi> Of course
[23:53:11] <gastaldi> Thanks !
[23:59:40] <gastaldi> gotta go
[23:59:43] <gastaldi> see ya
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