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[03:42:06] <johnament> sbryzak, ping
[03:42:15] <sbryzak> johnament: pong
[03:43:13] <johnament> sbryzak, do we need to update dependencies prior to beta?
[03:43:32] <johnament> and are we still doing 3.0 for modules that are first releases?
[03:43:42] <sbryzak> johnament: which dependencies do you mean?
[03:43:59] <johnament> solder
[03:45:22] <sbryzak> hmm, i'll be doing a solder release at least to get rid of the combined jar
[03:45:56] <sbryzak> i think the bom will take care of it anyway
[03:46:20] <johnament> sbryzak, oh, no changes in solder recently?
[03:46:24] <sbryzak> so, just use the previous version for now
[03:46:33] <sbryzak> i'm not sure about solder changes, there may have been some
[03:46:35] <sbryzak> i'd have to check
[03:46:43] <sbryzak> but even if there isn't, i'll still be doing another release of it
[03:47:14] <sbryzak> it should be fine if you depend on 3.0.0.Final though
[03:47:21] <sbryzak> because if people use the bom, it should override it
[03:47:41] <sbryzak> and, good question about first release modules
[03:47:44] <sbryzak> hmm...
[03:47:52] <sbryzak> yes, i think we'll still go with 3.0 for now
[03:47:56] <johnament> ok
[03:48:04] <sbryzak> we can discuss it at this week's irc meeting though
[03:48:04] <johnament> at least your decisions remain consistent :-)
[03:57:16] <johnament> sbryzak, do we need the examples worked out for beta?
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[04:51:20] <gastaldi> hey all
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[04:51:44] <gastaldi> Hey sbryzak !
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[04:58:40] <sbryzak> gastaldi: heya
[04:59:02] <sbryzak> johnament: examples not absolutely necessary, but good if we have them
[04:59:11] <sbryzak> they will have to be ready for CR
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[05:09:20] <gastaldi> welcome back hannelita
[05:18:21] <hannelita> Hi gastaldi ! :)
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[05:29:29] <hannelita> gastaldi: Hi!
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[06:44:29] <gastaldi> hannelita: Hi. Sorry, my internet is a crap :P
[06:44:52] <hannelita> gastaldi: LOL, that happens :P
[06:45:37] 
[06:46:46] <gastaldi> Anyway, I started working on JavaMail support for AS7 and got this as a reference https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/AS7/Example+subsystem
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[13:58:06] <jose_freitas> g'morning
[14:01:00] <jbossbot> git [xwidgets] push master 681c5a9.. Shane Bryzak renamed component, implemented refresh support
[14:01:00] <jbossbot> git [xwidgets] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/xwidgets/compare/f877f1d...681c5a9
[14:01:35] <jbossbot> git [university] push master d74c458.. Shane Bryzak fixed link
[14:01:36] <jbossbot> git [university] push master 4849ca8.. Shane Bryzak moved category search to data module
[14:01:36] <jbossbot> git [university] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/university/compare/7c9bb9e...4849ca8
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[14:53:49] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push master a15f98a.. Shane Bryzak revert indent changes
[14:53:49] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/remoting/compare/14c0c96...a15f98a
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[16:02:53] <mbg> hm. sfwk.org looks  a bit unstable this morning
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[16:28:53] <clerum> seamframework.org is hosed
[16:29:07] <clerum> anybody avaiable to restart it?
[16:29:51] <marekn> I am looking at it
[16:30:03] <clerum> thanks
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[17:19:33] <gastaldi> afternoon all !
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[17:29:03] <clerum> anyone have an example of using Seam Conversation
[17:30:07] <gastaldi> clerum: I think Seam Faces is using it
[17:31:00] <clerum> hmm
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[17:31:28] <ssachtleben> clerum hey
[17:31:30] <clerum> doesn't appear to be a dep in 3.0.2
[17:31:49] <clerum> ssachtleben: whats up
[17:31:58] <ssachtleben> any tag for mail soon ? :S
[17:32:31] <clerum> lightguard_jp was going to work on getting an alpha published
[17:32:43] <clerum> I don't have the slightest idea how do do that :-)
[17:32:51] <clerum> I'll ping him later
[17:32:56] <ssachtleben> nice
[17:33:03] <ssachtleben> waiting since ages now :)
[17:33:05] <clerum> once thats out then we can start marching towards a real release with docs
[17:33:17] <clerum> yeah I got wrapped up in a work project for last 5 months
[17:33:21] <clerum> just coming out of it now
[17:33:26] <ssachtleben> well I just need the tag for prepare my own tag
[17:33:35] <ssachtleben> it wont work with snapshot dependencies
[17:33:54] <clerum> ah
[17:33:56] <clerum> k
[17:34:20] <ssachtleben> and seam mail is the only snapshot dependency for me currently
[17:34:53] <gastaldi> Mail will be part of Seam 3.1, right ?
[17:35:10] <clerum> that is the plan
[17:35:13] <gastaldi> cool
[17:35:25] <gastaldi> I hope Reports gets in there too :)
[17:35:26] <clerum> I really need someone with more time to step up and help push it through
[17:35:34] <gastaldi> Yeah, me too
[17:35:56] <gastaldi> I wish I could work on it all day long and being paid for it :)
[17:37:17] <ssachtleben> btw whats seam conversation module about?
[17:37:51] <clerum> enhanced conversation management -> http://seamframework.org/Community/SeamCatchViewExpiredExceptionAndRedirect
[17:37:57] <ssachtleben> having currently big problems with long running conversation and rf4 fileupload and datascroller partial requests
[17:38:14] <ssachtleben> sometimes it works sometimes running in NonexistentConversationException
[17:38:22] <clerum> unfortuantly it has no docs and no examples right now
[17:38:27] 
[17:39:40] <gastaldi> I remember dan saying something about abstracting the transaction layer on Persistence
[17:40:31] <clerum> not a clue
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[17:48:29] <gastaldi> stuartdouglas: you there ?
[17:54:11] <alesj> )
[17:54:28] <alesj> gastaldi: I would say no, as it's 4am in Aus :-)
[17:54:57] <ssachtleben> perfect coding time :D
[17:56:24] <gastaldi> :)
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[17:56:45] <gastaldi> What ? People do sleep ? Really ? :)
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[18:29:41] <ssachtleben> did you guys ever tried to create an ajax search with long running conversation ?
[18:30:09] <ssachtleben> never saw so much random exceptions in my life :D
[18:30:33] <gastaldi> lol
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[18:31:03] <gastaldi> They are like rubber and glue :)
[18:31:40] <ssachtleben> well but I want ajax search and multiple tab support
[18:31:48] <gastaldi> hum
[18:31:52] <ssachtleben> so session scope is not possible
[18:32:07] <gastaldi> I guess the timeout will be the problem then
[18:32:12] <gastaldi> What about @ViewScoped ?
[18:32:30] <ssachtleben> the time out is set to 60m for conversation
[18:32:38] <ssachtleben> and it works fine without ajax ^^
[18:32:54] <ssachtleben> uh whats viewscoped? :D
[18:33:13] <ssachtleben> just worked with requestscoped, conversationscoped and sessionscoped yet :P
[18:33:57] <gastaldi> Check http://seamframework.org/Seam3/FacesModule
[18:34:29] <gastaldi> http://seamframework.org/Seam3/FacesModuleHome#H-JavaxfacesbeanViewScoped
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[18:43:29] <ssachtleben> mhmm..
[18:53:21] <ssachtleben> uh nice
[18:53:36] <ssachtleben> first tests working awesome even with multiple tabs :D
[18:54:45] <clerum> anyone see an expection like this when ending a conversation - https://gist.github.com/1d1ec2839581be413e34
[18:54:55] <clerum> Weld 1.1.0 (CR3)
[18:55:13] <ssachtleben> yeah
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[18:55:24] <ssachtleben> its fixed in weld 1.1.1 final
[18:55:30] <ssachtleben> I had to update too because of that
[18:55:53] <ssachtleben> it fails to remove conversation properly there is jiira issue also for that one
[18:57:09] <ssachtleben> gastaldi thanks for the tip
[18:57:24] <ssachtleben> its perfect
[18:57:36] <clerum> ah ha
[18:57:50] <clerum> I should just be able to drop that into AS6 right?
[18:58:13] <ssachtleben> C:\jboss-6.1.0-SNAPSHOT\server\default\deployers\weld.deployer
[18:58:21] <ssachtleben> just swap jar file
[18:58:34] <clerum> sweet. thanks
[18:58:41] <ssachtleben> np
[18:59:41] <ssachtleben> damn no mojarra 2.2.x release yet :(
[19:00:23] <ssachtleben> still running Mojarra 2.0.2 (FCS b10) since every higher version has another critical bug
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[19:06:05] <ssachtleben> maybe it will solve my problem with rf fileupload too :D
[19:06:22] <ssachtleben> btw does jsf2 comes with a fileupload?
[19:06:54] <ssachtleben> I search for single upload component just one image
[19:07:27] 
[19:07:33] <jose_freitas> nope ssachtleben
[19:07:55] <gastaldi> Richfaces does
[19:08:00] <jose_freitas> primefaces too
[19:08:04] <ssachtleben> but its multi upload
[19:08:18] <gastaldi> You can configure that
[19:08:40] <ssachtleben> not with version 4 at least currently
[19:08:54] <gastaldi> http://richfaces-showcase.appspot.com/richfaces/component-sample.jsf?demo=fileUpload&skin=blueSky
[19:08:54] <ssachtleben> they throw out max upload property :D
[19:09:11] <ssachtleben> well I could handle that in my action
[19:09:54] <ssachtleben> just thought about a single upload field since I think that richfaces upload component is quite huge for just uploading avatar
[19:11:17] <gastaldi> hum
[19:11:33] <gastaldi> you may use plain HTML for that also
[19:11:49] <gastaldi> And change the enctype of your form
[19:11:57] <ssachtleben> mhmm... good point :D
[19:12:40] <gastaldi> http://balusc.blogspot.com/2009/12/uploading-files-with-jsf-20-and-servlet.html is also a nice catch
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[19:13:36] <jose_freitas> gastaldi: a lot of code for doing a generic task
[19:13:45] <jose_freitas> primefaces has a very interesting upload component
[19:13:48] <ssachtleben> ye
[19:13:58] <ssachtleben> never checked primefaces yet
[19:14:11] <ssachtleben> but just for the upload component?
[19:14:41] <jose_freitas> http://www.primefaces.org/showcase/ui/fileUploadHome.jsf
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[19:14:43] <gastaldi> hum, Trinidad has it also
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[19:15:00] <gastaldi> but Primefaces is better visually :)
[19:15:18] <ssachtleben> is something like richfaces?
[19:15:22] <jose_freitas> ssachtleben: for components in general I like primefaces better
[19:15:32] <jose_freitas> but richfaces has some really useful tools
[19:15:34] <ssachtleben> not sure about using richfaces and primefaces
[19:15:50] <jose_freitas> like ajax framework, client validation based on beans validation, and etc
[19:16:00] <ssachtleben> yeah my whole ajax search is based on richfaces
[19:16:15] <jose_freitas> I'm going to try to use this tools with primefaces components
[19:16:29] <jose_freitas> it'd be like merging the best of the two libs
[19:16:45] <jose_freitas> if you want to try it first
[19:16:56] <jose_freitas> please tell me what you manage to do
[19:17:53] <ssachtleben> so I'm sure if I use both jquery will be loaded twice and stuff like that
[19:18:17] <jose_freitas> yes
[19:18:27] <jose_freitas> but it seems that there're workaround for that
[19:18:52] <jose_freitas> didn't walk through this area yet though
[19:19:09] <ssachtleben> ok well
[19:19:13] <gastaldi> Is Primefaces using JQuery ?
[19:19:18] <ssachtleben> when I check out I will tell you my results
[19:19:50] <gastaldi> ah, just saw now :)
[19:19:53] <ssachtleben> hope so
[19:20:10] <jose_freitas> yes, it uses jquery
[19:20:14] <ssachtleben> if it use mootools or another framework it would suck
[19:20:23] <jose_freitas> thanks ssachtleben, I'll be waiting for that ;)
[19:20:30] <gastaldi> Nice effects
[19:20:41] <gastaldi> The Confirm Dialog example is a blast ! :)
[19:20:42] <ssachtleben> since loading several js framework hurts the loading page time alot
[19:21:18] <jose_freitas> indeed
[19:24:01] <jose_freitas> bleathem: ping
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[19:27:35] <bleathem> jose_freitas: pong
[19:28:00] <jose_freitas> did you start hacking in richfaces already?
[19:29:14] <bleathem> jose_freitas: yep
[19:30:20] <jose_freitas> do you know if it's possible (or it will be) to tell richfaces which jquery to use?
[19:30:47] <jose_freitas> it'd be awesome a feature like that, don't know how it could be implemented though
[19:31:16] <bleathem> jose_freitas: file a jira :P
[19:31:25] <ssachtleben> ;D
[19:31:43] <ssachtleben> every question same answer ^^
[19:31:59] <jose_freitas> fair enough
[19:32:02] <jose_freitas> hehehe
[19:32:30] <bleathem> ssachtleben: means I agree in principle
[19:32:51] <ssachtleben> <a4j:ajax> Error: enclosing composite component does not support event change
[19:32:55] <ssachtleben> damn inputNumberSlider
[19:33:29] <ssachtleben> I really hate the richfaces documentation there is no overview over all components their properties and events
[19:33:38] <ssachtleben> or I'm too stupid to find
[19:34:14] <bleathem> ssachtleben: the old richfaces 3 showcase had a "tag information" tab
[19:34:24] <bleathem> seems to be gone in the RF 4 showcase
[19:34:26] <bleathem> 1 sec
[19:35:26] <ssachtleben> I know it was there in rf 3 showcase
[19:35:31] <ssachtleben> <a4j:ajax> onchangeevent is not supported for the HtmlInputNumberSlider
[19:35:45] <bleathem> the component showcase doesn't lsit the component properties either:
[19:35:46] <ssachtleben> damn it works for input field dropdown but not numberslider
[19:35:46] <bleathem> http://docs.jboss.org/richfaces/latest_4_0_X/Component_Reference/en-US/html/
[19:36:13] <bleathem> ssachtleben: when you come across "basic functionality" problems like this, be sure to file a jira
[19:36:24] <bleathem> they are quite likely to get fixed in the next release
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[19:37:37] <ssachtleben> yeah but that documentation doesnt contains a list of all properties
[19:38:10] <bleathem> yeah, sorry, that's what I was trying to say
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[19:38:34] <bleathem> As for the docs, we are going to focus on improving docs post 4.1.
[19:38:45] <ssachtleben> yeah would love to see pure api its alot of try and fail at moment :D
[19:39:09] <jose_freitas> bleathem: done
[19:39:26] <bleathem> jose_freitas: thanks
[19:39:54] <ssachtleben> ok numberslider works with event soooooorry :P
[19:40:19] <ssachtleben> I will file max quantity for fileupload later too
[19:42:38] <bleathem> ssachtleben: also, if you want to point out specific holes in the documentation via jira as well, that would ensure they don't get overlooked.
[19:42:57] <gastaldi> Hey
[19:43:00] <ssachtleben> ye ok
[19:43:05] <gastaldi> I have a doubt on JSF 2.0
[19:43:15] <bleathem> gastaldi: blasphemy
[19:43:18] <gastaldi> hahaha
[19:43:27] <bleathem> thou shall not doubt
[19:44:56] <gastaldi> I SUMMON THE JSF LORDS !
[19:45:02] <gastaldi> ARISE
[19:45:04] <gastaldi> :)
[19:45:23] <gastaldi> (and them a pentagram appears in the middle of the room)
[19:46:11] <gastaldi> Anyway, How do I ensure ID uniqueness when using a Facelets tag file ?
[19:46:36] <gastaldi> Should I wrap it into something ?
[19:46:53] <bleathem> gastaldi: can you switch to using composite components?
[19:47:00] <gastaldi> uh, not yet
[19:47:20] <gastaldi> Is that the only solution ?
[19:47:37] <bleathem> with composite components, the id of every component within a composite component is namespaced by prefixing it's id with the id of the containing composite component
[19:47:48] <gastaldi> hummm
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[19:48:03] <bleathem> gastaldi: I can't answer your question directly re: facelt tag files, sorry
[19:48:13] <bleathem> I just know it works with composite components
[19:48:21] <gastaldi> right
[19:48:40] 
[19:48:41] <bleathem> gastaldi: try stackoverflow.com - the JSF question turnaround seems pretty good there.
[19:48:51] <gastaldi> cool
[19:49:01] <bleathem> BalusC follows the JSF tag on stackoverflow
[19:49:06] <bleathem> he know lots of details like that
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[19:50:13] <gastaldi> great, thanks !
[19:50:15] <bleathem> lincolnthree in da house
[19:50:30] <gastaldi> (lightning and thunder)
[19:50:52] <bleathem> ok, time to start the pomodoro clock
[19:50:58] <lincolnthree> hi all
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[19:52:40] <jose_freitas> hey lincolnthree
[19:52:46] <lincolnthree> hey jose_freitas
[19:56:56] 
[19:57:07] <lincolnthree> gastaldi: going OK. still struggling with jboss modules
[19:57:14] <gastaldi> hum, cool
[19:57:45] <gastaldi> I saw a Terminal component in Primefaces. How about we use that to run a web Forge instance ?
[19:57:54] <gastaldi> That would be cool
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[19:59:16] <lincolnthree> that would be cool :)
[19:59:58] <ssachtleben> uh thats really cool component :D
[20:02:35] <jose_freitas> +1 on that gastaldi
[20:02:48] <gastaldi> Yeah, nice stuff
[20:02:55] <ssachtleben> daaaaaaaamn
[20:03:03] <ssachtleben> why u ever told me to check primefaces?
[20:03:10] <ssachtleben> very cool stuff
[20:03:11] <gastaldi> http://www.primefaces.org/showcase/ui/terminalDialog.jsf
[20:03:21] <lincolnthree> ssachtleben: it breaks down when you start doing complicated things
[20:03:29] <lincolnthree> but great to get nice stuff up quickly
[20:03:31] 
[20:03:34] <gastaldi> warned
[20:03:38] <ssachtleben> really need to find out to combine richfaces and primefaces with just 1 jquery
[20:04:06] <jose_freitas> it seems a very nice idea on education purposes too gastaldi
[20:04:17] <jose_freitas> I saw once a live tutorial on scala
[20:04:22] <jose_freitas> that was nice
[20:04:33] <gastaldi> yeah, you could have a remote forge instance and change the app on demand
[20:04:38] <gastaldi> wow
[20:04:56] <lincolnthree> if only hot-swap worked
[20:05:28] 
[20:05:49] <lincolnthree> modules != hotswap :)
[20:05:51] 
[20:06:22] <jose_freitas> I heard that stuartdouglas worked on fakereplace this weekend.
[20:06:53] <jose_freitas> btw lincolnthree: what do you mean with "primefaces breaks down with complicated stuff?"
[20:07:03] <jose_freitas> do you have an example?
[20:07:04] <gastaldi> I mean, see the packaging and deploy as a "commit" within Forge
[20:07:54] <gastaldi> You do the changes, and when you package and deploy you see the whole crap running
[20:08:01] <lincolnthree> :)
[20:08:02] <lincolnthree> yea
[20:08:18] <lincolnthree> jose_freitas: no, but that's a common complaint i hear
[20:08:22] <lincolnthree> my personal experience was good
[20:08:40] <lincolnthree> but.. now i use richfaces because I do lots of complex ajax stuff
[20:08:45] <gastaldi> Should I open a JIRA for that ?
[20:08:46] <lincolnthree> http://ocpsoft.com/research/
[20:09:03] <lincolnthree> gastaldi: jira for what?
[20:09:17] <gastaldi> uh, the Primefaces terminal and Forge stuff ?
[20:09:22] <lincolnthree> no
[20:09:34] <lincolnthree> not in scope for forge
[20:09:36] <gastaldi> :P not a good idea after all then :)
[20:09:43] <gastaldi> ok
[20:09:55] <lincolnthree> that would be a project on top of forge
[20:10:02] <gastaldi> yup
[20:10:10] <ssachtleben> ye using also richfaces but I would love to run a terminal to run jobs or stuff like that on my application :)
[20:10:29] <gastaldi> :)
[20:10:53] <gastaldi> Tell them to the Richfaces guys.. *cough* bleathem *cough*
[20:11:15] <ssachtleben> talking about this year :PPP
[20:11:21] <gastaldi> hehe
[20:11:55] 
[20:12:12] <gastaldi> The project with Primefaces and Forge stuff
[20:12:25] <gastaldi> just need to find some time in my calendar :P
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[20:15:07] <gastaldi> And here comes our Forum Jedi !
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[20:15:28] <gastaldi> Hey lightguard_jp !
[20:15:45] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: Hey
[20:16:19] <gastaldi> lightguard_jp: What was the outcome of that discussion about creating a new Seam Transaction module from Seam Persistence ?
[20:16:25] <gastaldi> Is it scheduled for 3.1 ?
[20:16:44] <lightguard_jp> idk
[20:17:05] <lightguard_jp> It was talked about, but I don't know if it's on Shane's radar
[20:17:26] <gastaldi> hum
[20:17:41] <gastaldi> That could be one topic on our next meeting, wdyt ?
[20:18:43] <lightguard_jp> Send it in an email, that way I know Shane will see it :)
[20:20:05] <gastaldi> ok
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[20:57:05] <lightguard_jp> rruss: Welcome back
[21:01:34] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop 79897e2.. tremes added functional test for send mail example
[21:01:34] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop 346b97b.. tremes comments updated on send mail example functional test
[21:01:34] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop ae42a89.. codylerum Merge pull request #7 from tremes/sendmail-example-ftest...
[21:01:34] <jbossbot> git [mail] push develop URL: http://github.com/seam/mail/compare/f2119af...ae42a89
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[22:22:26] <ssachtleben> hey lightguard_jp
[22:22:39] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: Is the booking app up to date with final versions of the Seam3 modules?
[22:22:42] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: Yes?
[22:22:42] <ssachtleben> when can I aspect a tag for seam mail?
[22:22:54] <lightguard_jp> ask clerum :)
[22:23:02] <ssachtleben> ye I said ask you :P
[22:23:05] <ssachtleben> he*
[22:23:08] <lightguard_jp> He said he's freed up recently
[22:23:18] <lightguard_jp> clerum: Are we good to release Mail as Alpha?
[22:23:26] <lightguard_jp> clerum: All the tests run and docs build?
[22:23:46] <ssachtleben> he wants to hit u up later I think
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[22:25:42] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: Okay, well, assuming everything is good, a day or two.
[22:25:51] <ssachtleben> ok nice
[22:26:03] <ssachtleben> finally I can release a tag then :)
[22:26:21] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: API very well may change a bit between the tag and final though, just FYI
[22:26:27] <lightguard_jp> Minor change though
[22:26:42] <ssachtleben> my application is already live since a month with 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT :(
[22:26:57] <lightguard_jp> hehe
[22:27:11] <jose_freitas> lightguard_jp: I don't know, I haven't been in touch with booking lately. marekn made some tests with jbossas7.
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[22:27:47] <jose_freitas> We need to make some tests
[22:27:50] <jose_freitas> and to add some features
[22:27:54] <jose_freitas> like mailing for example
[22:28:01] <jose_freitas> maybe a report too
[22:28:13] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: Gotcha, thanks
[22:28:16] <ssachtleben> if not included ajax search ;)
[22:28:29] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: Think there will be any problems getting something ready for Seam 3.1?
[22:28:44] <lightguard_jp> Maybe not the Beta in three weeks, but for sure the final in Sept / Oct
[22:28:58] <jose_freitas> I can take a look
[22:29:03] <ssachtleben> does cron works on as 7 allready?
[22:29:05] <jose_freitas> I can't say for sure
[22:30:30] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: Okay, please do.
[22:30:42] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: Not 100% sure on that one
[22:30:58] <ssachtleben> ye thats I cant use as 7 right now :(
[22:31:07] <lightguard_jp> ssachtleben: JIRA ticket please
[22:31:21] <ssachtleben> pete said he fixed allready in dev branch
[22:31:28] <ssachtleben> talked with him a week ago
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[22:36:44] <lightguard_jp> Check out the updates to http://www.seamframework.org/Seam3/ContributeHome
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[22:37:13] <lightguard_jp> Also added a section for the Seam Hack Nights at http://www.seamframework.org/Seam3/ProjectMeetings
[22:47:00] <clerum> lightguard_jp: what do we need to do in order to push out a alpha 1 of mail?
[22:47:22] <lightguard_jp> clerum: Make sure all the tests run and docs build from a clean checkout.
[22:47:25] <gastaldi> When is the next Seam Hack Night ?
[22:48:09] <lightguard_jp> gastaldi: Second Thurs in Aug
[22:48:15] <lightguard_jp> We need to plan the next module
[22:48:24] <lightguard_jp> brb
[22:59:17] <lightguard_jp> back
[22:59:26] <lightguard_jp> more or less :) I have a baby on my lap
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