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[00:07:23] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Are you around?
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[00:09:25] <gastaldi> guess not
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[00:34:21] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, doesn't look like it.
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[03:45:31] <kenfinnigan> lightguard_jp: ping
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[04:00:35] <kenfinnigan> lincolnthree: in the mail forwarding the link to Paul's video on forge and AS7 you mentioned JBOSS_HOME.  I presume that was referring to the need to set it to be able to use the forge plugin for AS7?
[04:01:27] <lincolnthree> kenfinnigan: right
[04:03:44] <kenfinnigan> have you considered the jboss dependency that is the dist?
[04:04:13] <kenfinnigan> means downloading it thru maven, but gives you some flex about where it is, etc
[04:04:22] <kenfinnigan> currently taking that approach for arquillian testing
[04:04:56] <lincolnthree> you mean having forge download and unzip AS7?
[04:04:58] <lincolnthree> yeah
[04:05:00] <kenfinnigan> yeah
[04:05:03] <lincolnthree> i'd like to see that
[04:05:39] <kenfinnigan> This is the dep:
[04:05:41] <lincolnthree> that would be super slick
[04:05:43] <lincolnthree> and actually super easy
[04:05:51] <kenfinnigan>                                  <groupId>org.jboss.as</groupId>
[04:05:52] <lincolnthree> beacuse forge already groks maven :)
[04:05:53] <kenfinnigan>                                  <artifactId>jboss-as-dist</artifactId>
[04:05:54] <kenfinnigan>                                  <version>${jbossas.7.version}</version>
[04:05:56] <kenfinnigan>                                  <type>zip</type>
[04:06:00] <lincolnthree> sweeet thanks Ken, great idea :)
[04:06:04] <kenfinnigan> np
[04:06:06] <lincolnthree> now i don't have to worry about sourceforge
[04:06:12] <kenfinnigan> lol
[04:06:21] <lincolnthree> actually, could i ask you for one more thing on top of the idea?
[04:06:25] <kenfinnigan> sure
[04:06:42] <lincolnthree> could you JIRA that for me?
[04:06:43] <lincolnthree> lol
[04:07:05] <kenfinnigan> jira the change to the as7 plugin to download the dist?
[04:07:08] <lincolnthree> ya
[04:07:15] <kenfinnigan> and provide all that sugary maven goodness in the ticket
[04:07:22] <lincolnthree> yea
[04:07:24] <lincolnthree> :)
[04:07:30] <kenfinnigan> I can include the maven plugin that actually extracts it for you too
[04:07:41] <kenfinnigan> will do
[04:08:02] <lincolnthree> sweet!
[04:08:16] <lincolnthree> gotta sign out
[04:08:20] <lincolnthree> ttyl!! thank sagain
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[04:34:24] <gastaldi> Hey
[04:34:41] <gastaldi> Hum, is maxandersen around ?
[04:43:17] <cbrock> who knows JNDI stuff well?
[04:43:30] <cbrock> particularly with AS7
[04:43:32] <stuartdouglas> I know AS7 JNDI stuff well
[04:44:09] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: AS7 has broken Errai's ability to publish it's service, which is not completely fatal -- as it falls back to singleton mode
[04:44:26] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: but I would like to fix this. Apparently, i need to create a publishing service with JBoss MSC
[04:44:36] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: but there are approximately zero docs for this AFAICT
[04:44:51] <stuartdouglas> actually there are exactly zero docs :-)
[04:45:17] <stuartdouglas> I should write this up as a proper document
[04:46:03] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: yeah... the response I got from David was merely that "of course programmatic bindings don't work! you need an MSC service!"
[04:46:12] <stuartdouglas> you need to add a ServiceActivator service to your archive
[04:46:17] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: two hours of Googling later... I've determined this is not documented
[04:46:18] <stuartdouglas> and use that to add a MSC service
[04:46:45] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: *blankstare*
[04:46:56] <stuartdouglas> give me a few minutes and I will come up with something resembling some docs
[04:46:59] <stuartdouglas> or an example
[04:47:07] <stuartdouglas> there are a few steps, I can't easily explain it on IRC
[04:47:48] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: thanks!
[04:48:02] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: i'll use this lull to hop on the subway and go home (~20mins)
[04:48:06] <cbrock> stuartdouglas:  =)
[04:48:17] <stuartdouglas> ok, I should have something for you by then
[04:48:27] <stuartdouglas> This should be documented anyway
[04:48:51] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: yeah, my next step was to just starting going through code
[04:48:58] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: but that seemed ridiculously inefficient
[04:49:32] <cbrock> bbi20mins
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[04:54:15] <gastaldi> Can anyone help me on a AS7 issue ?
[04:54:32] <stuartdouglas> maybe
[04:54:44] <gastaldi> stuartdouglas: hey !
[04:54:52] <gastaldi> stuartdouglas: I described on #jboss
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[05:50:44] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: okay, that took a hell of a lot longer than I'd planned
[05:51:04] <stuartdouglas> I was just about to email you, as I am going to grab some lunch
[05:51:05] <stuartdouglas> https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/AS7/Creating+Programatic+JNDI+Bindings
[05:51:21] <stuartdouglas> theres no content there yet, just an example app
[05:51:44] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: okay, will look
[05:51:50] <stuartdouglas> https://github.com/stuartwdouglas/as7-example-jndi-binding/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/as/example/jndibinding/JndiServiceActivator.java
[05:51:54] <stuartdouglas> creates the two bindings
[05:52:18] <stuartdouglas> which is activated from a META-INF/services entry
[05:52:44] <stuartdouglas> you also need the Dependencies entry in the manifest to make the classes availble
[05:53:11] <stuartdouglas> quick question: where are you trying to bind? java:global?
[05:53:28] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: well, it bound it's service to java:comp:/env/ErraiService previously
[05:53:46] <stuartdouglas> java:comp is programatic, as there are lots of java:comp namespaces
[05:54:02] <stuartdouglas> e.g. every ejb component has its own java:comp
[05:54:20] <stuartdouglas> if you want to do that just for the web java:comp namespace you need to bind it to java:module
[05:54:23] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: yeah, but technically ErraiService is meant to be an injectable bean
[05:54:31] <stuartdouglas> as java:comp and java:module are the same
[05:55:12] <stuartdouglas> what exactly do you mean? how was it bound before?
[05:55:23] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: oh, just using Context.bind()
[05:55:32] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: inside our service locator
[05:55:34] <stuartdouglas> but for every EJB component?
[05:55:41] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: no
[05:55:55] <stuartdouglas> just for the web java:comp namespace?
[05:56:04] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: yep
[05:56:24] <stuartdouglas> in that case it is exactly the same as the java:app binding in the example, but use java:module instead
[05:56:39] <stuartdouglas> and then it will be in both java:comp and java:module, as they are the same
[05:57:10] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: ok. I think Tomcat and Jetty use java:comp by default, which is why we were standardizing on that
[05:57:43] <stuartdouglas> acording to the Java EE specs java:comp should be aliased to java:module for web components
[05:58:25] <stuartdouglas> hmm, the application name thing may be problematic
[05:58:42] <stuartdouglas> as I am not sure if you can get the current application name from the ServiceActivator
[05:58:50] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: well, it looks like we're going to have to an a whole AS7 deployment module now. :P
[05:59:19] <stuartdouglas> cbrock: also its possible that these api's could change between 7 and 7.1 :-(
[05:59:23] <stuartdouglas> although probably not
[06:00:42] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: I hope not. AS profile targeting is a serious PITA.
[06:03:32] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: what do I need in the dependencies entry?
[06:04:06] <stuartdouglas> its in the example pom.xml
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[06:05:46] <stuartdouglas> cbrock: I updated it just then to get rid of the application name thing
[06:05:56] <stuartdouglas> with a hack that pulls it from the module class loader
[06:06:05] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: ok
[06:06:09] <stuartdouglas> it will not work properly in an ear environment thought
[06:06:35] <stuartdouglas> but its 2pm and I have not eaten all day, so I am going to grab some lunch
[06:07:05] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: thanks for the help, i try to hack this out
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[07:10:17] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: now, when you said "java:comp" and "java:module" are the same, did you mean that literally or semantically?
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[07:37:28] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: anyways, got it working. Thanks a lot!
[07:37:42] <cbrock> stuartdouglas: https://github.com/mikebrock/errai/tree/master/jboss7-support
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[13:31:57] <jose_freitas> g'morning
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[15:07:32] <gastaldi> morning !
[15:11:55] <gastaldi> ** crickets **
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[15:24:20] <rmartinelli> gastaldi: sorry. Good morning! =D
[15:24:38] <gastaldi> :)
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[16:18:27] <jose_freitas> bleathem: ping
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[16:35:42] <jose_freitas> gastaldi: what's more common in seam component tests? junit or testng?
[16:36:02] <jose_freitas> I don't remind seeing testng, but maybe there're modules using it
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[16:36:30] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: I think jUnit it is
[16:36:41] <gastaldi> but there are some cases with testng also
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[16:38:33] <bleathem> jose_freitas: pong
[16:39:02] <jose_freitas> hey bleathem. howdy?
[16:39:47] <jose_freitas> have you tested with jsfunit in jbossas7 ?
[16:42:43] <bleathem> jose_freitas: I've not yet used AS7 with any unit tests
[16:42:59] <jose_freitas> ok thanks
[16:43:44] <jose_freitas> I suspect that jsfunit don't work with AS7 yet, I'll make sure on that after lunch
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[16:50:44] <gastaldi> humm. Why is <f:ajax> in my JSF 2.0 not working ? :P
[16:50:49] <gastaldi> in AS7
[16:53:35] <gastaldi> when I use f:ajax, the validation phase is skipped
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[17:46:55] <gastaldi> Why is JSF version in JBoss AS7 so old ?
[17:47:02] <gastaldi> 2.0.4
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[18:47:04] <gastaldi> jose_freitas: you there ?
[18:47:17] <gastaldi> can anyone do a simple test for me ?
[18:47:26] <gastaldi> on JSF 2 and AS7 ?
[18:53:45] <gastaldi> https://github.com/gastaldi/jee6-examples-as7
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[18:57:48] <jose_freitas_aw> hey gastaldi
[18:58:00] <gastaldi> hey !
[18:58:20] <jose_freitas_aw> wassup?
[18:58:43] <gastaldi> https://github.com/gastaldi/jee6-examples-as7/blob/master/src/main/webapp/helloworld.xhtml
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[18:58:51] <gastaldi> JSF 2 is making me mad
[19:00:09] <jose_freitas> what's happening?
[19:00:27] <gastaldi> no bother, bleathem solved the case :)
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[19:00:43] <jose_freitas> :)
[19:00:44] <jose_freitas> nice
[19:00:51] <jose_freitas> what was the problem then?
[19:00:59] <jose_freitas> (maybe I can learn something)
[19:01:46] <gastaldi> When I click the link, the action is called, but the validation phase is skipped
[19:02:05] <gastaldi> unless I place a execute attribute on <f:ajax>
[19:02:17] <gastaldi> which means no execution no value transfer no validation nada
[19:03:01] <jose_freitas> hm
[19:03:24] <gastaldi> I got used to a4j:support tag
[19:03:38] 
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[19:06:53] <gastaldi> Humm... But my <h:messages> needs to be inside a <h:form> element
[19:07:16] <gastaldi> Otherwise I get a javax.servlet.ServletException: <f:ajax> contains an unknown id 'messages' - cannot locate it in the context of the component cmd
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[21:23:45] <gastaldi> wow, updated my wallpaper to https://www.jboss.org/dms/coolstuff/desktops/jbossas7/desktop_jbossas7_1440x900.jpg
[21:23:50] <gastaldi> Too cool !!! :)
[21:25:11] <lincolnthree> I think they did a horrible job with those backgrounds
[21:25:46] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree: Thanks for posting up on JSR348.
[21:25:51] <lightguard_jp> New we sit back and wait
[21:25:53] <lincolnthree> Np.
[21:25:55] <lincolnthree> I was pretty harsh on them
[21:25:59] <lincolnthree> But I am angru.
[21:26:00] <lincolnthree> angry
[21:26:05] <lincolnthree> and they need to know that people are angry
[21:26:11] <lincolnthree> so I don't feel *that* bad
[21:30:23] <jose_freitas> hehehe
[21:37:27] <jose_freitas> do american people is harsh as they are presented on the movies?
[21:38:33] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: I guess it depends on the person, and their mood at that time
[21:39:26] <mbg> lincolnthree, however, is toughness personified
[21:39:42] <jose_freitas> hehehe
[21:40:57] <lincolnthree> f*ck yes
[21:44:49] <jose_freitas> hahaha
[21:45:16] <lightguard_jp> Just make sure not to get on Lincoln's bad side for the next day or two, or mention JCP :)
[21:46:50] <gastaldi> haha
[21:50:38] <lincolnthree> ANGER
[21:51:16] <jose_freitas> now I'm curious about the jcp, what happened?
[21:53:09] <lincolnthree> they suck
[21:54:07] <jbossbot> git [core] push master 300499d.. Lincoln Baxter, III Implemented SEAMFORGE-253
[21:54:09] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFORGE-253] Provide a way for external processes to communicate with Forge [Closed (Done) Feature Request, Major, Lincoln Baxter III] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-253
[21:54:09] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/930b78c...300499d
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[22:28:21] <jbossbot> git [core] push master c37a15d.. Lincoln Baxter, III Fixed potential for NPE with CommandInterceptor
[22:28:21] <jbossbot> git [core] push master URL: http://github.com/forge/core/compare/300499d...c37a15d
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[22:39:41] <gastaldi> yoh
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[22:48:50] <gastaldi> Just added two ideas for a Seam application: A Time tracking app and an expense tracking application
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[22:49:09] <gastaldi> How cool is that huh ? :)
[22:49:17] <jose_freitas> time tracking?
[22:49:21] <jose_freitas> like a scheduler?
[22:49:34] <gastaldi> Hum, no
[22:49:51] <gastaldi> To know how much hours your worker has been effectively working
[22:49:59] <gastaldi> Work log would be better
[22:49:59] <jose_freitas> ahnn
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[23:01:50] <gastaldi> hummmm JBoss Tools is not deploying my maven dependencies
[23:02:04] <gastaldi> damn :(
[23:04:43] <gastaldi> Is there someone where I can blame for that  (except maxandersen which is not online) ?
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[23:05:49] <gastaldi> :)
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[23:31:30] <gastaldi> hey sbryzak !
[23:31:52] <sbryzak> gastaldi: heya
[23:32:21] <gastaldi> Have you been using Seam Catch in Seam University ?
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[23:41:56] <sbryzak> gastaldi: not yet
[23:44:53] <gastaldi> Hum.. My app failed to deploy on AS7
[23:44:59] <gastaldi> using Seam Faces 3.0.2
[23:45:13] <gastaldi> it appears  that I must manually add joda-time jars to my pom.xml
[23:45:51] <sbryzak> gastaldi: as7 doesn't have the same libs as as6
[23:46:08] <gastaldi> is joda-time on AS6 already ?
[23:46:34] <gastaldi> otherwise will have the same error
[23:46:38] <sbryzak> i'm assuming it is, if your app is working there
[23:46:50] <gastaldi> Actually I am testing only on AS7
[23:46:59] <sbryzak> then i'm not sure :)
[23:47:02] <gastaldi> :)
[23:47:56] 
[23:48:04] <gastaldi> I guess it will fail also :P
[23:51:16] <gastaldi> hummm Why is joda-time dependency optional and also prettyfaces ? Seam Faces and Seam I18N fail to deploy without these !! :P
[23:52:02] <hannelita> hey, I had to add joda-time here to deploy stuff on AS7!
[23:52:08] <gastaldi> yeah, me too
[23:52:28] <hannelita> so I really think you cant deploy without it :)
[23:52:47] 
[23:55:04] <bleathem_away> AS6 "leaked" it's internal joda time to apps over the classpath, w/ AS7 and JBoss modules, this is fixed, so apps that require joda time must bundle it
[23:55:19] <bleathem_away> Seam Faces has an optional dependency on Joda time
[23:55:35] <bleathem_away> but a bug in Weld means you have to include it.
[23:56:00] <bleathem_away> The OverZealous classpath scanner is what Dan Allen called it I think
[23:56:19] <bleathem_away> I thought that was only a Glassfish 3.1 problem, but it muse be an AS 7 one as well.
[23:57:09] <stuartdouglas> bleathem_away: The bug in AS7 is actually not a weld problem
[23:57:14] <stuartdouglas> but an AS7 EJB problem
[23:57:33] <gastaldi> SEAMFACES-187
[23:57:34] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-187] Seam faces fails to deploy without Pretty faces on AS7 [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-187
[23:57:49] <bleathem_away> stuartdouglas: thanks
[23:58:01] <bleathem_away> do you know the jira issue tracking that by any chance?
[23:58:16] <bleathem_away> I can label SEAMFACES_187 a duplicate
[23:58:26] <gastaldi> Cool
[23:58:38] 
[23:58:48] <gastaldi> Not related to Joda-Time
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[23:59:22] <bleathem_away> gastaldi: same issue
[23:59:28] <gastaldi> oh
[23:59:29] <bleathem_away> gastaldi: overzealous classpath scanner
[23:59:43] <gastaldi> Sorry then
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