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April 1, 2011 [00:04:33] <lincolnthree1> sbryzak: releasing this takes forever because it builds about 100 times..... [00:08:11] <sbryzak> lincolnthree1: no sweat, i'm uploading documentation which takes forever also [00:12:59] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [00:13:13] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master b32a548.. Lincoln Baxter, III prevent addition of duplicate repositories [00:13:14] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master ed10696.. Lincoln Baxter, III Separated repository command into one command [00:13:14] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/c2558b7...ed10696 [00:15:19] <lincolnthree1> sbryzak: ok, cross your fingers... [00:15:51] * sbryzak crosses his fingers [00:16:35] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 16bf0e7.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 1.0.0.Alpha3 [00:16:36] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/ed10696...16bf0e7 [00:16:40] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master c0d02a5.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration [00:16:40] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/16bf0e7...c0d02a5 [00:17:06] <lincolnthree1> crap... well this one is borked, i forgot -Pdist [00:18:27] <sbryzak> d'oh [00:18:48] <lincolnthree1> undoing everything... [00:20:29] <lincolnthree1> ok cross your fingers again' [00:20:39] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [00:20:40] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Reactor Build Order: [00:20:40] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] [00:20:40] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Parent [00:20:40] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Targeted Event Bus [00:20:40] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Parser/Java API [00:20:40] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Parser/XML [00:20:41] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Shell API [00:20:41] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Git Integration [00:20:42] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Parser/Java [00:20:42] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Project Model APIs [00:20:43] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Test Harness [00:20:43] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Shell [00:20:44] <lincolnthree1> [INFO] Seam Forge - Project Model API Tests [00:20:56] <lincolnthree1> doh. flooded [00:20:58] <lincolnthree1> hah [00:21:13] <lincolnthree1> correct reactor build this time [00:21:19] <lincolnthree1> cross your fingers *again* [00:21:41] *** gastaldi has left #seam-dev [00:24:31] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master e491ec7.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 1.0.0.Alpha3 [00:24:31] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/ed10696...e491ec7 [00:24:43] <lincolnthree1> noooooo [00:28:15] <lincolnthree1> one more time.... third time is the charm [00:32:03] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 0272af8.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 1.0.0.Alpha3 [00:32:03] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/ed10696...0272af8 [00:32:09] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 347ec90.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration [00:32:10] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/0272af8...347ec90 [00:32:31] *** johnament has joined #seam-dev [00:36:03] <johnament> so did i really miss Jason's initiation? [00:37:57] <lincolnthree1> not yet, get your paddle [00:44:02] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master 9f25953.. John Ament SEAMJMS-24 Added back in support to Routes via method invocation. modified the code slightly to not depend on the class being a bean, it never will be. Fixed unit test for route that was failing. [00:44:04] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMJMS-24] Bring back original Routing API [Open (Unresolved) Enhancement, Blocker, John Ament] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMJMS-24 [00:44:04] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master eb8bdfe.. mgencur at redhat dot com StatusWatcher example [00:44:04] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/jms/compare/00512e1...eb8bdfe [00:46:43] <lincolnthree1> sbryzak: we are go for liftoff! [00:46:57] <lincolnthree1> Forge 1.0.0.Alpha3 is released! [00:47:08] <sbryzak> cool! [00:47:19] <sbryzak> thanks, i'll rebuild the dist now [00:47:26] <lincolnthree1> thanks for waiting :) [00:47:30] <johnament> forge is back to alpha?" [00:47:48] <lincolnthree1> johnament: it hasn't moved from alpha :) [00:48:03] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master 96692cc.. Shane Bryzak update forge to 1.0.0.Alpha3 [00:48:03] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/dist/compare/e497ebb...96692cc [00:48:10] <johnament> but it's included in 3.0.0.Final O_o? [00:48:12] <lincolnthree1> sbryzak: looks like it's still copying files [00:48:36] <lincolnthree1> johnament: forge isn't really a part of Seam3, it's just being bundled for promotion [00:48:55] <johnament> ah [00:48:57] <lincolnthree1> https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/content/groups/public/org/jboss/seam/forge/forge-distribution/1.0.0.Alpha3/ [00:51:27] <lincolnthree1> gotta run [00:57:49] <johnament> ugh. CI just failed, and doesn't say why really [01:10:30] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master 85a5020.. John Ament Fixed package name of test case. [01:10:30] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master 87eb743.. John Ament Created new test case to validate the injection of core message APIs into HTTP SessionScoped beans. [01:10:30] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/jms/compare/eb8bdfe...87eb743 [01:14:46] <mojavelinux> 1.0.1.CR1 of the archetype has been published...waiting on propagation [01:14:50] <mojavelinux> it uses Seam Solder 3.0.0.Final [01:15:13] <mojavelinux> haven't updated the servlet one, that probably won't get priority this week [01:16:05] <mojavelinux> this was us last week -> http://www.atlassian.com/en/angrynerds [01:16:07] <mojavelinux> angry nerds [01:16:25] <stuartdouglas> mojavelinux: The booking example nearly works on AS7 [01:16:30] <stuartdouglas> except for the book hotel link [01:21:22] <daniel_hinojosa> If anyone has time to review my article on CDI/Scala and give me feedback I'd appreciate it [01:21:32] <daniel_hinojosa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o_LkltGpnXdWq6a272iXUGfWUjTLsu5AnvLOrvCxhik/edit?hl=en&authkey=COiq3YwF [01:22:05] <daniel_hinojosa> It has many grammatical errors right now, gonna swim some laps and re-read it before sending it on to JAX Magazine [01:22:12] <daniel_hinojosa> but any feedback is most welcome [01:24:24] *** tsurdilo has quit IRC [01:24:41] *** kenfinnigan has joined #seam-dev [01:27:37] <oranheim> nice [01:27:40] <oranheim> i'll look into it [01:43:33] <stuartdouglas> mojavelinux: ping [01:52:12] *** clerum has quit IRC [01:54:03] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [01:54:13] <gastaldi> hey a! [01:54:19] <gastaldi> all [01:54:49] <gastaldi> mojavelinux: Excellent PPT you sent me [01:55:09] <gastaldi> mojavelinux: Very concise and easy to understand [02:05:48] <gastaldi> Will Seam 3 run on Jboss 5.1 ? [02:06:05] <gastaldi> Or JBoss 6 only ? [02:07:27] <stuartdouglas> you should be able to get it running using weld-servlet [02:07:34] <stuartdouglas> not sure if anyone has tested though [02:07:46] <gastaldi> :P [02:07:59] <gastaldi> My concern is on EAP environments [02:08:30] <gastaldi> I wonder when will JBoss EAP 6 be released, so that all this stuff can be safely used [02:09:24] <johnament> ugh. why does extending base classes make life difficult for CDI? [02:09:38] <johnament> EAP 6 is going to be AS 7 IIRC [02:09:57] <stuartdouglas> correct [02:10:57] <gastaldi> I heard about that one too [02:11:21] <gastaldi> let me get into #jboss channel to that [02:13:30] <kenfinnigan> I think EAP 6 is about 12 mths away [02:13:30] <johnament> finally, now it's running [02:14:03] <gastaldi> :( [02:14:28] <johnament> AS 7 == "The New Hotness" [02:14:32] <gastaldi> hehe [02:14:43] [02:14:52] [02:14:53] <johnament> ^^ [02:15:54] <gastaldi> Hope that AS7 will be final until there [02:16:10] <gastaldi> mojavelinux: Have you tested Seam 3 on AS7 yet ? [02:16:25] <gastaldi> or anyone ? [02:16:46] <johnament> i believe stuartdouglas noted earlier that booking mostly runs on AS 7 [02:16:51] <stuartdouglas> mostly [02:17:06] <johnament> dan was doing some of it as well, JPA was broken. [02:17:07] <stuartdouglas> just trying to get the last (hopefully) issue resolved before our beta tomorrow [02:17:12] <stuartdouglas> but it is kinda a biggie [02:17:26] <stuartdouglas> I fixed JPA the other day [02:17:35] <gastaldi> great. Hibernate 4 ? [02:17:42] <johnament> I've been out of touch [02:17:49] <johnament> is there a new bom w/ final in it? [02:24:56] <johnament> management's understanding of critical is impressive. a demo to the CEO requires on call support 13 days in advanced. [02:29:18] <gastaldi> gotta go now. Bye everyone [02:29:39] *** gastaldi has quit IRC [02:32:13] <sbryzak> johnament: yes there's a new bom, 3.0.0.Final [02:35:01] *** clerum has joined #seam-dev [02:35:02] <johnament> sbryzak: yep, just pulled it out of one of the 3.0.1 repos. [02:39:34] <mojavelinux> cool, beta tomorrow! perfect timing [02:39:49] <sbryzak> mojavelinux: have you had a chance to review the announcement? [02:39:51] <mojavelinux> stuart I just tried to build your master and it died...perhaps you are working on that already [02:39:56] <sbryzak> i'm pretty much ready to push it out [02:39:57] <mojavelinux> not just yet, going to review shortly [02:40:05] <mojavelinux> k, i'll look at it right now [02:40:07] <mojavelinux> looking... [02:40:29] <stuartdouglas> mojavelinux: When was this? my master should be working fine atm [02:40:45] <stuartdouglas> The only thing missing for the esam-booking demo is weld interceptors on EJB's [02:40:59] <stuartdouglas> so @Begin is not working [02:47:20] <kenfinnigan> lincolnthree1: ping [02:47:55] <mojavelinux> just built...though I might have done something funky, let me kick off another build while I'm reading shane's announcement [02:50:42] <mojavelinux> constituent[30]: file:/home/dallen/mirror/checkout/jboss-as-7/tools/maven/lib/aether-util-1.9.jar [02:50:43] <mojavelinux> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/sonatype/aether/util/graph/traverser/StaticDependencyTraverser [02:50:43] <mojavelinux> at org.sonatype.aether.util.DefaultRepositorySystemSession.<clinit>(DefaultRepositorySystemSession.java:50) [02:50:50] <mojavelinux> that's when I try to run ./build.sh install [02:52:16] <johnament> mojavelinux: where's the announcement?? [02:52:25] <mojavelinux> in draft [02:52:30] <johnament> doh [03:13:43] <kenfinnigan> mojavelinux: ping [03:18:02] *** maxandersen has joined #seam-dev [03:22:16] <mojavelinux> hey ken [03:22:32] <kenfinnigan> hey [03:22:44] <kenfinnigan> wanted to run something past you related to forge plugins [03:23:06] <kenfinnigan> currently putting together a i18n facet to install the dep [03:23:28] <kenfinnigan> suggested to lincoln earlier today that it might be worth putting a seam bom facet into forge [03:23:37] <kenfinnigan> that would install the bom dep [03:23:56] <mojavelinux> that's a good idea! [03:24:03] <kenfinnigan> enabling us to pick optional deps for modules without needing to know the version [03:24:22] <kenfinnigan> ie. inc joda-time for i18n, don't want to code the version of it in the plugin! [03:24:50] <kenfinnigan> ok, I'll look at putting one together as part of my i18n facet, as then I can depend on it [03:25:00] <mojavelinux> yeah, you should see if seam-bom is present [03:25:02] <kenfinnigan> should that live in the dist module? [03:25:03] <mojavelinux> if it is, leave off the version [03:25:13] <mojavelinux> yes [03:25:28] <mojavelinux> being called to dinner [03:25:31] <mojavelinux> hahah [03:25:32] <kenfinnigan> no prob [03:32:41] <johnament> how do i run the code coverage build? [03:35:54] <kenfinnigan> I think it is -Pcode-coverage [03:40:34] <johnament> doh [03:40:56] <johnament> kenfinnigan: thanks [03:41:05] <kenfinnigan> np [03:41:44] <sbryzak> it's done: http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Seam300FinalReleased [03:41:55] <kenfinnigan> woohoo! [03:42:02] <kenfinnigan> thanks for all your hard work Shane [03:42:23] <sbryzak> no, thank you :) [03:43:33] <kenfinnigan> it wasn't me releasing an infinite amount of mvn releases over the last few weeks in particular [03:43:55] <kenfinnigan> I take it you'd like a break from releases for a while ;-) [03:44:18] <sbryzak> that would be rather nice :) [03:44:35] <kenfinnigan> lincolnthree1: ping [03:47:51] <johnament> sbryzak: we still need a JMS release soon :-) [03:48:54] <sbryzak> sure, anytime it's ready [03:49:50] <johnament> I have one last change I'm by QE [03:49:56] <johnament> I'm running by QE [03:51:22] <sbryzak> no problem, we can probably do it next week then [03:51:37] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master 6c7afc5.. John Ament Created separate APIs for durable subscribers. [03:51:37] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master c71d634.. John Ament Added additional test cases and applied bug fixes for messaging. [03:51:37] <jbossbot> git [jms] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/jms/compare/87eb743...c71d634 [04:21:58] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [04:22:25] <gastaldi> congratulations all [04:22:40] <gastaldi> we are finally final ! [04:24:17] <gastaldi> can someone update the topic ? [04:26:07] <maxandersen> sbryzak: congratulations on the release - would be great if you besides mentioning Seam Forge also mentioned JBoss Tools actually supports CDI too ;) [04:26:37] <maxandersen> sbryzak: still need to add support for the final solder annotations to support seam 3 fully but the base CDI should be there ;) [04:26:50] <sbryzak> maxandersen: thanks :) [04:26:58] <sbryzak> good point, i can ammend the post to include it [04:27:07] <sbryzak> do you have a blurb i can use? [04:27:11] <maxandersen> sbryzak: appreciated [04:27:19] <maxandersen> sbryzak: sure?let me think ;) [04:32:25] <maxandersen> sbryzak: [JBoss Tools 3.2=>http://www.jboss.org/tools/download] supports Seam 3 development with its excellent CDI tooling. Some of the new features of Seam 3 is not yet covered, but it is on the roadmap for JBoss Tools 3.3. You can see a nice walkthrough of the CDI tooling features [here=>http://community.jboss.org/community/tools/blog/2011/01/31/overview-of-context-dependency-injection-tools]. [04:32:32] <maxandersen> sbryzak: there you go ;) [04:32:39] <sbryzak> cool, thanks [04:33:24] <maxandersen> we also got some rough Seam Forge support but our trunk is shaky right now while moving to eclipse 3.7 so not pushing that yet. [04:33:59] <sbryzak> added [04:34:24] <kenfinnigan> lincolnthree1: are you about? [04:34:33] <gastaldi> glad it was not released on april fools day. :) [04:34:43] *** johnament has quit IRC [04:34:44] <sbryzak> hehe, actually it is april 1 here [04:34:58] <kenfinnigan> stop doing things in the future! [04:35:02] <gastaldi> lol, so it may be a joke [04:35:20] <sbryzak> i can't help it if you guys are living in the past ;p [04:35:27] <gastaldi> hehe [04:38:44] <gastaldi> jboss tools rock also [04:40:21] *** gastaldi has left #seam-dev [04:41:04] <kenfinnigan> anyone on here got any experience of writing forge plugins? [04:41:35] <kenfinnigan> side question, is there forge dev chat room? [04:42:50] <maxandersen> kenfinnigan: you are in it right now ;) [04:43:06] <maxandersen> kenfinnigan: lincolnthree1 is sitting there in the corner with his angry kitten. [04:43:21] <kenfinnigan> saw today it had its own mailing list so didn't know if it had a separate chat room as well [04:43:49] <kenfinnigan> I think the cat must be scratching him and he cat reach the keyboard at the moment [04:44:30] <maxandersen> kenfinnigan: yes sep mailing list, not sepearate chat yet afaik [04:44:37] <kenfinnigan> thanks [04:50:30] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [04:52:45] *** gastaldi has left #seam-dev [04:56:04] *** kuuyee has joined #seam-dev [05:00:44] *** subaochen has joined #seam-dev [05:02:18] <subaochen> Congratulations! Thanks all guys for the hard work on seam 3! [05:02:44] <subaochen> I just downloaded seam 3 and playing with it... [05:05:14] <lincolnthree1> kenfinnigan: im here [05:05:28] <kenfinnigan> yey [05:05:36] <lincolnthree1> brb [05:06:03] <kenfinnigan> question, is it currently possible to add a dependency to the dependencyManagement section of a pom? [05:06:21] <lincolnthree1> kenfinnigan: not directly [05:06:24] <lincolnthree1> no [05:06:37] <kenfinnigan> can't seem to see a way of doing it, so was looking to add an addManagedDependency method to the DependencyFacet [05:06:41] <kenfinnigan> sound reasonable? [05:06:50] <lincolnthree1> that could work [05:07:15] <kenfinnigan> I have a seam facet that installs the seam-bom dependency [05:07:27] <kenfinnigan> but it needs to be in the managed section as opposed to the regular [05:07:54] <kenfinnigan> so, tomorrow night I'll look to modify forge (*scary*) to add the method for managed dependencies [05:08:35] <kenfinnigan> any tips from the start about making changes? [05:09:30] *** subaochen has quit IRC [05:09:56] <lincolnthree1> hmm [05:10:09] <lincolnthree1> Yes [05:10:18] <lincolnthree1> try to write lots of tests :) [05:10:24] <lincolnthree1> and i have a guide [05:10:35] <kenfinnigan> I did see the forge-project-model-tests module [05:10:44] <kenfinnigan> so would be adding as much as possible to that [05:10:50] <kenfinnigan> the regular ref guide? [05:10:53] <lincolnthree1> http://seamframework.org/Documentation/SeamForge#H-Contribute [05:11:00] <kenfinnigan> cool [05:11:12] <kenfinnigan> is that the same format as the main seam contribute page? [05:11:22] <lincolnthree1> not sure [05:11:43] <kenfinnigan> ok, will check to make sure [05:11:51] <kenfinnigan> all i've done so far is clone forge [05:11:57] <kenfinnigan> tomorrow the work begins! [05:12:26] <kenfinnigan> found it quite easy looking at existing facets and plugins to determine how to write what I needed [05:12:35] <lincolnthree1> Looking forward to it!! I'll be around :) [05:12:38] <lincolnthree1> Good! that's a good sign [05:12:51] <lincolnthree1> You'll be one of the first people really trying it out. [05:12:52] <kenfinnigan> you've created a really cool and imminently flexible system [05:12:58] <lincolnthree1> Thank you!! [05:13:07] <lincolnthree1> We'll see if it scales out :) [05:13:23] <kenfinnigan> as part of doing this, I might put some notes together [05:13:26] <kenfinnigan> maybe even a blog [05:13:36] <kenfinnigan> that you could then pull from to add to the ref guide if you want [05:13:54] <lincolnthree1> Please, and feel free to put in issues/pull requests against the ref guide too [05:14:09] <kenfinnigan> ok [05:14:11] <lincolnthree1> Hopefully we can get it in the Confluence wiki software soon so we don't have to use docbook [05:14:34] <kenfinnigan> do you prefer me to create a jira for what I'm doing tomorrow? or just send a pull request? [05:14:49] <lincolnthree1> Hmmm [05:14:52] <kenfinnigan> just realized you probably mention that on the contrib page [05:15:07] <kenfinnigan> there we go, step 3 [05:15:08] <kenfinnigan> my bad [05:15:09] <lincolnthree1> I do. For now, yes, go ahead and create an issue so we can keep track [05:15:14] <lincolnthree1> That's ok, all good [05:15:29] <kenfinnigan> cool [05:15:34] <kenfinnigan> time to hit the sack [05:15:45] <kenfinnigan> see everyone later [05:16:00] <lincolnthree1> seeya ken! [05:16:03] *** kenfinnigan has quit IRC [05:16:03] <lincolnthree1> doing the same soon [05:21:51] <mojavelinux> lincoln I gave forge a go, in general, it's working spendidly [05:21:59] <mojavelinux> have some feedback [05:22:02] <mojavelinux> but first a question [05:22:03] *** subaochen has joined #seam-dev [05:22:04] <mojavelinux> when I type edit [05:22:08] <mojavelinux> it uses the system editor [05:22:19] <mojavelinux> which is nice in one sense [05:22:25] <mojavelinux> but I personally want to use vim [05:22:37] <mojavelinux> how do I tweak what it chooses (without changing my gnome editor) [05:23:49] <mojavelinux> } [05:23:49] <mojavelinux> catch (UnsupportedOperationException e) [05:23:50] <mojavelinux> { [05:23:50] <mojavelinux> if (OSUtils.isLinux()) [05:23:50] <mojavelinux> { [05:23:50] <mojavelinux> NativeSystemCall.exec(true, "gedit", resource.getFullyQualifiedName()); [05:23:50] <mojavelinux> } [05:23:50] <mojavelinux> else [05:23:51] <mojavelinux> throw e; [05:23:51] <mojavelinux> } [05:23:52] <mojavelinux> ah! [05:23:59] <mojavelinux> :( [05:24:13] <mojavelinux> that would be a fantastic setting for .forge :) [05:27:25] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [05:29:31] <maxandersen> mojavelinux: lincolnthree1: we really should need to figure out how such calls can be abstracted out so when running from eclipse it could pick these up ;) [05:30:20] <maxandersen> lincolnthree1: are you around next week ? talked with koen at eclipsecon on setting up a chat/call to start figuring out what kind of "API" we settle on ? [05:41:16] *** subaochen has quit IRC [05:42:30] <bleathem> Forge is going to fly, I can feel it! [05:42:37] <bleathem> hmm... tweetworthy [05:43:19] <bleathem> tweeted [05:43:56] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [05:43:58] <gastaldi> hum [05:44:07] <gastaldi> Strange thing Seam JMS is Alpha1 yet [05:44:18] [05:46:00] [05:48:27] <gastaldi> Is anyone awake ? :P [05:51:16] <gastaldi> I recall having a BPM Module also [05:51:30] <gastaldi> It seems it was removed from Seamframework.org [05:53:39] <PeteRoyle> hey gastaldi. no further progress on cron yet. too much to do at work (which includes learning arquillian, switchyard and the new TorqueBox CDI) [05:55:07] <gastaldi> I see [05:55:45] <gastaldi> One question on Seam Remoting [05:56:09] <gastaldi> Is it possible to provide a default exceptionHandler on JS ? [05:56:42] <gastaldi> or I must always pass as the last argument ? [05:57:42] <gastaldi> It would be cooler if used Seam.createBean("helloAction").sayHello({name: name}); [05:57:57] <gastaldi> then arguments order is not important [05:58:34] <gastaldi> of course, there should be then an annotation to name the parameters [05:58:42] <sbryzak> gastaldi: file a feature request :) [05:58:54] <gastaldi> Ok [05:59:07] <gastaldi> sbryzak: Which one ? [05:59:15] <sbryzak> for exception handling [05:59:17] <gastaldi> ok [05:59:22] <sbryzak> actually [05:59:24] <sbryzak> wait a sec [05:59:30] <sbryzak> i need to make sure there isn't already one [05:59:54] <gastaldi> why, there is SEAMREMOTING-23 [05:59:55] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-23] Support global exception handler [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-23 [06:00:12] <sbryzak> ah, you're right [06:00:17] <sbryzak> so don't file a new one ;) [06:00:28] <gastaldi> Ok, just voted then [06:00:29] <gastaldi> :) [06:00:33] <sbryzak> i don't know if i like the parameter naming idea [06:00:49] <sbryzak> it seems to go against convention [06:01:07] <gastaldi> humm, could be a problem when overloading methods [06:01:15] <sbryzak> that too [06:01:27] <sbryzak> and it's supposed to mirror the server-side api [06:02:01] <gastaldi> I remember having a JS library that did that... What was called ? [06:03:43] <gastaldi> It would be interesting if JBoss Tools could refactor this JS [06:04:06] <gastaldi> I mean, when a method is refactored by Eclipse, it would change the JS call also :) [06:04:17] *** lincolnthree1 has quit IRC [06:04:17] <sbryzak> that would be clever [06:04:35] *** lincolnthree has joined #seam-dev [06:04:40] [06:05:20] <gastaldi> How to ensure that the refactor is doing in the right place is a good challenge [06:06:00] <gastaldi> How does Seam Remoting works with JSF ? [06:06:12] <gastaldi> It ignores the Faces Servlet ? [06:07:08] <gastaldi> also, is it using jQuery or any other library for that ? [06:07:36] <gastaldi> ah, there is a Servlet on web.xml. Sure. Blame on me :P [06:08:00] <sbryzak> yep, it uses its own servlet [06:08:14] <gastaldi> And how about the JS layer ? [06:08:16] <sbryzak> you can use other JS libraries in conjunction with remoting, that's no problem [06:08:31] <sbryzak> the remoting client-side stuff is all self-contained though, it doesn't use anything else [06:08:39] <gastaldi> interesting [06:08:44] <gastaldi> Very clever [06:10:22] <gastaldi> Does it works on Events too ? [06:10:50] <gastaldi> Like, I could fire an event on JS and there is an @Observer on the server side that catches this event ? [06:11:02] <gastaldi> That would be awesome [06:11:06] <sbryzak> yep that can work [06:11:15] <sbryzak> not the other way though...yet [06:11:36] <gastaldi> yeah, must use Comet or some push technology I guess [06:12:09] <sbryzak> i had that feature in seam 2, but i removed it for seam 3 because i want to rewrite it [06:12:15] <gastaldi> hum [06:12:25] <gastaldi> Is there a feature request for it yet ? [06:12:32] <gastaldi> For the first case ? [06:12:56] <sbryzak> SEAMREMOTING-6, SEAMREMOTING-7 [06:12:58] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-6] Comet requests for Seam Remoting [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-6 [06:12:59] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-7] Seam event bus integration for remoting [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-7 [06:13:09] [06:13:10] <gastaldi> :) [06:13:20] <gastaldi> A bus [06:14:00] [06:16:08] <bleathem> gastaldi: that is so cool how OSS let's you fiddle with stuff like that [06:16:28] <bleathem> there's been so many times I've been frustrated with some piece of proprietary IBM software [06:16:39] <bleathem> that I'm sure I could make it do what I want to [06:17:00] <bleathem> and after hours in heldesk q's I get the classic "working as designed answer" [06:17:35] <gastaldi> bleathem: I feel the same [06:17:58] <gastaldi> Hail to GIT for that ! :) [06:18:04] <bleathem> And my management doesn't understand why I push for OSS solutions so much [06:18:19] <bleathem> this is a perfect example of why [06:18:29] <gastaldi> Do you work for Red Hat ? [06:18:33] <bleathem> no [06:18:36] <bleathem> TRIUMF [06:18:40] <gastaldi> Not yet, you mean :) [06:18:45] <bleathem> a physics research lab [06:18:53] <bleathem> lol [06:19:17] <bleathem> You'd think physicists/researchers would be all over OSS [06:19:22] <gastaldi> It would be a dream come true to get paid to work on OSS :) [06:19:57] <bleathem> indeed, or to work as a consultant around on OSS project [06:20:03] <gastaldi> yeah, that too [06:20:58] <gastaldi> sbryzak: I hope you dont mind, but I linked that last issues you mentioned before [06:21:09] <sbryzak> no problem [06:22:05] <gastaldi> wow, you got all the issues assigned to you sbryzak ! Hungry huh ? :) [06:22:33] <gastaldi> at least the unresolved ones :) [06:24:36] *** daniel_hinojosa has quit IRC [06:25:05] *** daniel_hinojosa has joined #seam-dev [06:25:25] *** daniel_hinojosa has quit IRC [06:28:53] [06:29:19] <gastaldi> Here is the link: http://directwebremoting.org/dwr/index.html [06:29:30] <gastaldi> Good old stuff ! :) [06:30:12] <gastaldi> Although not very different from Seam Remoting BTW :P [06:34:27] <gastaldi> Humm... Would be nice if remote.js would be split on diferent modules [06:34:41] <gastaldi> And merge on packaging [06:35:58] <gastaldi> I would split remote.js on model.js, validate.js and core.js [06:36:46] <gastaldi> of course, others also [06:37:02] <gastaldi> WDYT ? [06:38:20] <gastaldi> sbryzak: 3.0.0.Final from Seam Remoting is not released on JIRA [06:38:35] <sbryzak> oops, i'll fix that [06:38:53] <bleathem> same for faces [06:38:57] <bleathem> want me to release it? [06:39:09] <bleathem> rather, let me say I'll release it [06:39:49] <bleathem> released [06:40:16] <gastaldi> With Seam 3.0.0.Final released, should we sign a CLA or something ? [06:40:34] <bleathem> didn't you already sign one? [06:40:40] <gastaldi> no :( [06:40:50] <gastaldi> Not for Seam 3 [06:40:57] <bleathem> oh, I think they said it wasn't necessary once seam switch to an apache license [06:41:17] <gastaldi> oh [06:41:24] <bleathem> apache license is open source with a capital "O" [06:41:34] <bleathem> but I'm not a lwyer [06:41:38] <bleathem> ^lawyer [06:41:41] <gastaldi> :) [06:42:21] <gastaldi> hum, wonder if that license allows to package on EAP products also (as done with Seam 2) [06:48:21] <gastaldi> sbryzak: How about returning an error code when an exception is caught on org.jboss.seam.remoting.Remoting ? [06:49:18] <sbryzak> i think that's what SEAMREMOTING-13 is about [06:49:20] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-13] Remoting should not throw exception but 400/404 on invalid request [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-13 [06:51:21] <gastaldi> https://github.com/seam/remoting/pull/18 [06:51:39] <gastaldi> A minor change :) [06:52:51] <gastaldi> also, I believe that response.sendError does not throw an exception [06:53:01] <gastaldi> so a return there would be appropriate also [06:55:28] <gastaldi> done [06:55:32] <gastaldi> Pull request updated [06:57:09] <gastaldi> hum... The code formatting rules are not quite the same as I used on Seam JCR and provided by Dan some time ago [06:59:22] [06:59:49] *** gastaldi has quit IRC [07:08:53] *** oskutka has joined #seam-dev [07:09:10] *** oskutka has quit IRC [07:20:45] * nickarls unsleeps [07:29:19] *** oskutka has joined #seam-dev [07:34:55] *** mgencur has joined #seam-dev [07:35:21] *** kpiwko has joined #seam-dev [07:35:29] *** mgencur has quit IRC [07:36:36] *** kpiwko has quit IRC [07:36:48] *** kpiwko has joined #seam-dev [07:37:03] *** mgencur has joined #seam-dev [07:56:00] *** bleathem has quit IRC [07:59:58] *** jharting has joined #seam-dev [08:00:13] *** Bunbury has joined #seam-dev [08:00:29] <Bunbury> congrats all on seam 3 [08:00:32] <Bunbury> ^^ [08:02:53] *** clerum has quit IRC [08:07:58] <mojavelinux> thanks! it was grueling, but we got threw it with teamwork [08:13:45] *** clerum has joined #seam-dev [08:15:19] *** marekn has joined #seam-dev [08:16:24] *** maxandersen is now known as max_sunrise [08:26:16] *** maschmid has joined #seam-dev [08:53:00] <nickarls> let's schedule all remaining open issues and have a 3.0.1 release next week!!1! [09:00:34] *** PeteRoyle has left #seam-dev [09:01:30] *** Royle has joined #seam-dev [09:01:46] *** Royle has quit IRC [09:02:32] <jbossbot> git [social] push master 61a91cf.. Dan Allen build cleanups [09:02:32] <jbossbot> git [social] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/social/compare/7aa08a0...61a91cf [09:06:32] *** msmigielski has joined #seam-dev [09:06:51] *** adamw1pl has joined #seam-dev [09:08:41] <mojavelinux> a really nice feature addition to the timeanddate example for seam international would be to get some ajax autocomplete going for the time zones [09:08:52] <mojavelinux> then you could just type and see the times in various places [09:08:56] <mojavelinux> instead of a long list [09:14:34] <jbossbot> git [international] push master c55ac01.. Dan Allen correct spelling [09:14:34] <jbossbot> git [international] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/international/compare/b39b7eb...c55ac01 [09:30:05] *** koentsje has joined #seam-dev [09:31:32] *** Diablo-D3 has joined #seam-dev [09:35:01] <nickarls> anyone know where the "[org.jboss.seam.faces.environment.SeamApplicationWrapper] Cannot attempt extension on null" is coming from or do I have to debug it myself? ;-) [09:36:32] *** PeteRoyle has joined #seam-dev [09:42:53] *** max_sunrise is now known as maxandersen [09:55:10] *** petr_cz has joined #seam-dev [09:55:27] *** Bunbury has quit IRC [10:07:37] <oranheim> the build/eclipse-jboss-community-formatter.xml doesn't work for me. it's not providing nextline for class bracets etc. [10:07:52] <oranheim> which formatting template should I use? [10:09:35] <oranheim> re Helios SR2 [10:09:51] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push master 344dda9.. George Gastaldi Use of HttpServletResponse constants in order to avoid magic numbers [10:09:51] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push master 6be002a.. George Gastaldi Adding a return statement after response.sendError [10:09:51] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/remoting/compare/934db76...6be002a [10:15:08] *** rruss has quit IRC [10:15:30] <nickarls> it's not imported correctly? [10:15:42] <nickarls> wasn't the newline-stuff changed at some point? 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[13:17:01] <jose_freitas> nothing, almost seems like a joke [13:17:59] <jose_freitas> people have been waiting for this release for a long time now [13:18:28] <Diablo-D3> so, did anyone see the pastebin I posted before I went to bed? [13:19:02] <Diablo-D3> [04:02:52] <Diablo-D3> http://pastebin.com/zFn5Qgmg [13:20:18] <jose_freitas> could you please post it on forums? [13:20:27] <jose_freitas> maybe more people could learn about this experience [13:20:57] <Diablo-D3> jose_freitas: erm [13:21:05] <Diablo-D3> its seam security git failing to work [13:21:20] <Diablo-D3> I dont think anyone should be "learning from this experience" [13:21:20] <jose_freitas> not that I know [13:21:38] <jose_freitas> I do think so [13:22:06] <jose_freitas> If it's a bug of ours, we'll fix it [13:22:28] <nickarls> that's a complain in your beans.xml [13:22:30] <jose_freitas> if it's your mistake, people could avoid doing the same you did [13:23:10] <Diablo-D3> nickarls: I dont have anything in my beans.xml [13:23:18] <Diablo-D3> nor do I directly use that file [13:23:30] <Diablo-D3> thats part of the inside of the openid rp stuff [13:23:35] <nickarls> DiabloPool.war [13:23:56] <Diablo-D3> and the release Im using doesnt cause that [13:24:06] <Diablo-D3> the last change to that file was on march 25th, SEAMSECURITY-47 [13:24:08] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMSECURITY-47] security-openid-rp - fails to deploy on GlassFish [Resolved (Done) Bug, Critical, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMSECURITY-47 [13:24:21] <nickarls> DiabloPool/WEB-INF/beans.xml [13:24:34] <Diablo-D3> nickarls: yes, the error is incorrect [13:24:40] <Diablo-D3> I do not reference ANYTHING in that file. [13:24:57] <jose_freitas> that's why it's complaining about [13:25:06] <jose_freitas> you don't have you alternative annotated [13:25:12] <jose_freitas> and you should [13:25:29] <Diablo-D3> jose_freitas: okay so [13:25:36] <Diablo-D3> why does the previous jar work? [13:25:38] <jose_freitas> I don't know exactly cause I don't know this feature [13:25:59] <Diablo-D3> where shane when you need him [13:26:09] <nickarls> Diablo: are you working on some seam module or extension? [13:26:36] <Diablo-D3> nickarls: not yet [13:26:49] <Diablo-D3> but soon as I get this code to work right, I wanna change the openid rp example [13:27:13] * Diablo-D3 primarily submits bugs and patches to OTHER jboss projects ;) [13:27:20] <Diablo-D3> Im pretty happy with seam 3, to be honest [13:27:53] <nickarls> wish there would have been some more time to work on dics [13:27:57] <nickarls> docs, oops [13:28:04] <Diablo-D3> :D [13:28:13] <nickarls> better than typo with k [13:29:07] <Diablo-D3> indeed [13:29:29] <jose_freitas> Diablo-D3: try adding <alternatives> [13:29:29] <jose_freitas> <class>org.jboss.seam.security.external.openid.OpenIdRpInApplicationScopeProducer</class> [13:29:29] <jose_freitas> </alternatives> [13:29:34] <jose_freitas> to your beans.xml [13:29:56] <Diablo-D3> uh rutrow [13:30:03] <Diablo-D3> I was wrong about beans.xml [13:30:08] <Diablo-D3> I forgot I coped it from openid-rp [13:30:12] <nickarls> https://github.com/seam/security/blob/master/external/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/security/external/openid/OpenIdRpInApplicationScopeProducer.java [13:30:12] <Diablo-D3> it DOES have that already [13:30:16] <nickarls> @Alternative commented out [13:30:38] <nickarls> Diablo: the same beans.xml you're not referring ANYTHING from? [13:30:46] <Diablo-D3> nickarls: yes, oops [13:31:03] <Diablo-D3> like I said, I forgot I coped it from the openid-rp example [13:31:05] <Diablo-D3> :< [13:31:06] <jose_freitas> hm, it's not an alternative annotated [13:31:14] <jose_freitas> so it should not have on beans.xml [13:31:24] <nickarls> it looks pretty stripped down for some reason [13:32:04] <Diablo-D3> https://github.com/seam/security/commit/3af56ba429552bc9357b14ed9b49db8005dac1f2#external/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/security/external/openid/OpenIdRpInApplicationScopeProducer.java [13:32:05] <jbossbot> git [security] 3af56ba.. Shane Bryzak SEAMSECURITY-47 [13:32:06] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMSECURITY-47] security-openid-rp - fails to deploy on GlassFish [Resolved (Done) Bug, Critical, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMSECURITY-47 [13:32:09] <Diablo-D3> heres the change that commented it out [13:32:14] <Diablo-D3> it looks like the beans.xml was also changed [13:32:29] <nickarls> no code - no bugs [13:32:51] <Diablo-D3> https://github.com/seam/security/blob/3af56ba429552bc9357b14ed9b49db8005dac1f2/examples/openid-rp/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/beans.xml [13:32:57] <Diablo-D3> thats what it looks like in the example now [13:34:13] <Diablo-D3> this is going to potentially break any app using openid-rp EXCEPT [13:34:19] <Diablo-D3> it happened before final [13:34:25] <Diablo-D3> so I thnk we're actually fine here [13:34:32] <Diablo-D3> forget I brought this up [13:36:02] <Diablo-D3> heh, nice, it works now. [13:36:18] <Diablo-D3> what does @alternative do, anyhow? 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[13:45:24] <Diablo-D3> its probably notated in the spec, but sun's website is always down and it usually asks for a login, which I refuse to provide [13:45:33] <Diablo-D3> so [13:45:34] * Diablo-D3 shrugs [13:46:40] <Diablo-D3> isnt there a way for redhat/jboss to reproduce important specs without Obstacle suing? [13:47:04] <Diablo-D3> I mean, whats the point of a spec if its not open [13:47:11] <jose_freitas> ? [13:47:18] <jose_freitas> there's weld documentation [13:47:50] <Diablo-D3> well, could I, say, write a fully compliant CDI impl from weld dos alone? [13:47:52] <Diablo-D3> *docs [13:48:01] <jose_freitas> http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/1.1.0.Final/en-US/html/beanscdi.html#d0e705 [13:48:35] <nickarls> JSR-299 spec from jcp.org [13:48:45] <nickarls> never had any problems downloading it [13:48:56] <Diablo-D3> nickarls: yeah, but you need a login [13:48:59] <nickarls> and it contains all information you need to implement it [13:49:03] <Diablo-D3> at least, you usually do [13:49:05] *** koentsje_ has quit IRC [13:49:09] [13:49:31] *** koentsje has joined #seam-dev [13:49:47] <Diablo-D3> how do I know getting an account with the sun dev sites isnt a legal liability with their recent trend of suing people over patents [13:49:51] <nickarls> no it doesn't [13:49:59] [13:50:06] <nickarls> jcp.org isn't sun [13:50:10] [13:50:20] <Diablo-D3> nickarls: erm, it is [13:50:27] [13:50:49] <nickarls> it still doesn't require login [13:51:18] * Diablo-D3 shrugs [13:51:23] <Diablo-D3> I have had that problem before on their specs [13:51:27] <nickarls> and the source of the spec is probably in jboss svn somewhere [13:52:33] <Diablo-D3> nickarls: ahh [13:52:47] <Diablo-D3> it'd be great if jboss built local copies of specs then [14:01:46] *** koentsje has quit IRC [14:09:52] *** rruss has quit IRC [14:13:37] *** koentsje has joined #seam-dev [14:17:30] <jbossbot> git [compatibility] push master ec7d350.. Jozef Hartinger EAR packaging tests [14:17:31] <jbossbot> git [compatibility] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/compatibility/compare/b2656b9...ec7d350 [14:19:37] *** koentsje has quit IRC [14:21:30] *** koentsje has joined #seam-dev [14:28:05] *** adamw1pl has quit IRC [14:28:29] *** koentsje_ has joined #seam-dev [14:29:16] *** koentsje has quit IRC [14:30:45] *** koentsje_ is now known as koentsje [14:41:33] *** koentsje_ has joined #seam-dev [14:41:44] *** koentsje has quit IRC [14:41:45] *** koentsje_ is now known as koentsje [14:46:17] *** Obsidians has joined #seam-dev [14:47:46] *** koentsje has quit IRC [14:49:16] *** koentsje has joined #seam-dev [14:50:13] *** emmanuel has joined #seam-dev [14:51:39] *** tsurdilo has joined #seam-dev [14:54:25] *** tsurdilo has quit IRC [14:54:43] *** koentsje has quit IRC [14:55:34] *** tsurdilo has joined #seam-dev [14:57:12] *** balunasj has joined #seam-dev [15:08:42] *** koentsje has joined #seam-dev [15:09:36] <tom2bor> i created new project via seam-forge and leaved the project via pick-up command. Now the command line is: [15:09:40] <tom2bor> [no project] bin $ [15:10:10] <tom2bor> how to go back to the project [15:10:18] <tom2bor> ? [15:19:36] <maschmid> tom2bor: have you tried: cd .. cd wherever_your_project_is ? [15:20:01] *** rruss has joined #seam-dev [15:20:35] <maschmid> tom2bor: (the forge cd command, obviously... although exiting forge, do the cd in shell and starting forge again would aslo work :) [15:32:05] <tom2bor> thanks it works... [15:32:07] <tom2bor> :-) [15:32:56] <jbossbot> git [compatibility] push master 4e9a2f9.. Jozef Hartinger More EAR packaging tests [15:32:56] <jbossbot> git [compatibility] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/compatibility/compare/ec7d350...4e9a2f9 [15:38:42] *** daniel_hinojosa has joined #seam-dev [15:44:23] <jbossbot> git [compatibility] push master 1fdecb3.. Jozef Hartinger Oops [15:44:23] <jbossbot> git [compatibility] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/compatibility/compare/4e9a2f9...1fdecb3 [15:45:22] <lincolnthree> thanks maschmid [15:45:37] <lincolnthree> tom2bor: you can also 'cd -' if you want to go back to the last directory or resource you were in [15:45:43] <lincolnthree> though I'm planning to make this a lot easier [15:48:34] <lincolnthree> found it [15:48:36] <lincolnthree> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-61 [15:48:38] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFORGE-61] Provide shortcuts navigation plugins for bookmarking resources / returning to bookmarks [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-61 [15:50:26] *** jharting has quit IRC [15:50:43] *** koentsje has quit IRC [15:50:45] *** koentsje_ has joined #seam-dev [15:53:57] <Diablo-D3> hey lincolnthree :D [15:54:07] <lincolnthree> morning [15:55:22] * Diablo-D3 is in a gooder mood today [15:55:31] <lincolnthree> good ;) [15:57:24] <Diablo-D3> okay so, if I mvn install a snapshot of seam security, what steps are required to make mvn in my project pick up that its new? [15:58:16] <lincolnthree> one second [15:59:12] <lincolnthree> Here [15:59:13] <lincolnthree> http://tinyurl.com/3qptu56 [15:59:38] <Diablo-D3> lincolnthree: hahahah/ [15:59:40] <Diablo-D3> funny :D [15:59:41] <lincolnthree> :) [15:59:50] <Diablo-D3> No, Im asking just to make sure theres nothing nonobvious [15:59:59] <Diablo-D3> because Im using m2eclipse, and who knows whats really going on with that [16:00:11] <lincolnthree> are you really asking that? [16:00:13] <lincolnthree> are you ready? [16:00:17] <lincolnthree> for what's coming.... [16:00:26] * Diablo-D3 hides behind riot sheild [16:00:29] <Diablo-D3> Im ready! [16:01:06] <Diablo-D3> Nothing happened. [16:01:25] <Diablo-D3> lincolnthree: what cruel punishment! [16:02:00] <lincolnthree> http://tinyurl.com/3vma9rm [16:02:17] <lincolnthree> sorry for the wait [16:03:23] <Diablo-D3> waaaagh I wasnt ready! [16:03:38] * Diablo-D3 is washed away in the flood of lameness [16:03:56] <lincolnthree> haha [16:04:00] <lincolnthree> that's basically it [16:04:08] <lincolnthree> and right click update snapshots [16:04:19] <lincolnthree> otherwise there's a problem with maven [16:04:33] <Diablo-D3> alright cool [16:04:53] <lincolnthree> Oh there's one more thing that might help you [16:05:04] <Diablo-D3> Im now going to attack this flaw in a new way.... by changing seam security itself [16:05:08] <lincolnthree> But this only helps in April for some reason... [16:05:13] <lincolnthree> don't ask me why [16:05:20] <lincolnthree> it's totally Maven for this to work [16:05:31] <lincolnthree> "maven" being a synonym for crazy [16:05:34] <Diablo-D3> *cough* Im aware of what today is, but please continue [16:05:41] <lincolnthree> http://bit.ly/dF3ScI [16:06:27] <Diablo-D3> dude, you linked to the evo version? wtf man [16:06:41] <Diablo-D3> quit stealing money and/or parts of his soul from rick astley [16:06:49] <lincolnthree> yeah, they ad'roll you before I rick-roll you [16:06:53] <lincolnthree> sucks huh [16:06:56] <Diablo-D3> yes :< [16:07:06] <lincolnthree> but anyway [16:07:08] <lincolnthree> merry christmas ;) [16:07:12] <Diablo-D3> hah. [16:15:52] *** Bunbury has joined #seam-dev [16:16:06] *** oskutka has quit IRC [16:23:13] *** marekn has left #seam-dev [16:23:21] *** bitshuffler has joined #seam-dev [16:24:28] *** clerum has joined #seam-dev [16:30:00] *** maxandersen is now known as max_away [16:30:29] *** Bunbury has quit IRC [16:30:48] *** petr_cz has left #seam-dev [16:47:46] *** koentsje_ has quit IRC [16:49:39] *** lincolnthree has left #seam-dev [16:59:31] *** emmanuel has quit IRC [16:59:43] *** maschmid has quit IRC [17:01:21] *** max_away has quit IRC [17:02:46] *** bleathem has joined #seam-dev [17:04:58] *** balunasj has quit IRC [17:07:38] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [17:07:52] <gastaldi> hey ! [17:08:00] <gastaldi> How are you doing ? [17:08:45] <gastaldi> sbryzak: How about attaching http://mojo.codehaus.org/javacc-maven-plugin/ to build instead of placing that generated code on src/main/java on Seam Remoting ? [17:09:07] <gastaldi> That way, if the javacc descriptor changes, sources are always updated [17:11:26] *** daniel_hinojosa has quit IRC [17:16:12] *** bleathem is now known as bleathem_away [17:20:13] <gastaldi> any thoughts ? I created SEAMREMOTING-34 to that [17:20:15] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-34] Generation of JavaCC should be automatized [Open (Unresolved) Task, Minor, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-34 [17:22:03] <bleathem_away> seamframework.org trouble reported on twitter. maybe time for a reboot? [17:22:20] <gastaldi> again ? [17:24:07] *** daniel_hinojosa has joined #seam-dev [17:33:35] *** clerum has quit IRC [17:33:40] *** clerum has joined #seam-dev [17:40:43] <gastaldi> shane ? you there ? [17:44:50] <clerum> seamframework loads fine for me [17:48:27] <gastaldi> Yeah !! Just solved SEAMREMOTING-34 [17:48:29] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREMOTING-34] Generation of JavaCC should be automatized [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Task, Minor, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREMOTING-34 [17:49:50] <gastaldi> Now generation of JavaCC sources are done in build time [17:51:54] <Diablo-D3> javacc? [17:52:03] <gastaldi> yeah [17:52:11] <gastaldi> JavaCC parser generator [17:52:26] <Diablo-D3> a compiler compiler?! [17:52:34] <gastaldi> Kinda of [17:52:37] <gastaldi> hehe [17:52:40] <Diablo-D3> oh, its just yacc for java [17:52:56] <gastaldi> yes [17:53:03] <Diablo-D3> so what is it used for in seam? [17:53:09] <gastaldi> Seam Remoting uses it [17:53:22] <Diablo-D3> I havent used seam remoting... I assume it does what it says on the tin? [17:53:56] <Diablo-D3> ahh, Im mistaken [17:54:10] *** clerum has quit IRC [17:54:18] <Diablo-D3> gastaldi: can I use this directly from my own js? [17:57:27] *** gastaldi has quit IRC [17:59:54] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [18:00:30] [18:00:41] <Diablo-D3> hrrrm. [18:00:50] <Diablo-D3> the description of it needs more work then [18:03:35] <gastaldi> The topic on this room could be changed BTW :) [18:05:25] <Diablo-D3> hrm, I wasnt aware there was a #seam [18:05:28] <Diablo-D3> when did that come about? [18:05:58] <Diablo-D3> ... its smaller than #seam-dev. [18:08:08] *** gastaldi has quit IRC [18:38:18] <jose_freitas> Diablo-D3: http://seamframework.org/Seam3/Chat#H-ChatRoomConduct [18:38:30] <jose_freitas> it has a list of channels [18:38:44] <jose_freitas> related to topics we are used to work [18:38:51] <jose_freitas> weld, jsf [18:38:53] <jose_freitas> and etc [18:39:04] <Diablo-D3> I only saw this one mentioned on the website [18:39:46] *** clerum has joined #seam-dev [18:39:54] <Diablo-D3> jose_freitas: theres a problem though [18:40:01] <Diablo-D3> there shouldnt be 9000 user channels [18:40:10] <Diablo-D3> because its not like any of this is a unique stand alone project [18:40:28] <Diablo-D3> all of this stuff exists to provide ONE platform [18:40:33] <Diablo-D3> and are all intergral parts of it [18:41:56] *** clerum has left #seam-dev [18:46:25] <Diablo-D3> congregating users under one banner would be beneficial for said users [18:46:29] <Diablo-D3> jose_freitas: what do you think? [18:50:47] <jose_freitas> Well, not exactly [18:50:55] <jose_freitas> people could use weld without using seam [18:51:05] <jose_freitas> and using jsf without even using weld [18:51:16] <Diablo-D3> sure, but what is weld by itself with nothing else? [18:51:29] <Diablo-D3> no javaee stack, no nothing else [18:52:36] <jose_freitas> cdi by itself is great [18:52:48] <Diablo-D3> what, cdi in a javase app or something? [18:53:09] <jose_freitas> yes, you could use it on javase too [18:53:40] <Diablo-D3> Huh. [18:55:16] <Diablo-D3> that sounds rather interesting, actually [18:55:48] <jose_freitas> http://relation.to/Bloggers/WeldInJavaSE [18:56:51] * Diablo-D3 stashes that one away for later [18:56:51] <jose_freitas> well, I have a meeting now [18:56:55] <Diablo-D3> that might be useful [18:56:58] <Diablo-D3> aah, seeya [18:57:01] <jose_freitas> seeya [18:57:31] *** jose_freitas is now known as jose_freitas_afk [19:00:10] *** clerum has joined #seam-dev [19:06:50] *** gastaldi has joined #seam-dev [19:08:03] <gastaldi> hey again ! [19:08:34] <gastaldi> What happened to the BPM Module ? [19:18:45] <clerum> in seam 3? [19:18:56] <gastaldi> yes [19:18:59] <clerum> planned but not yet developed [19:19:16] <Diablo-D3> http://xn--js-wka.com/ [19:19:17] <gastaldi> Strange, I thought it was listed on seamframework.org [19:19:49] <clerum> not all of modules are in the first release [19:20:16] [19:20:21] <clerum> I think jbpm 5 support is planned for 3.1 [19:20:34] <clerum> but I don't beleive anyone has taken over the module yet to drive it [19:20:55] <gastaldi> And who is in change on Drools Module ? [19:20:59] <gastaldi> charge [19:21:06] <clerum> http://www.seamframework.org/Seam3/DroolsModule [19:21:20] <gastaldi> ah, tsurdilo [19:21:56] <gastaldi> it seems that is not having some updates lately [19:23:13] <clerum> beleive the paid developers are focused on the core right now and getting the first releases out [19:23:34] <clerum> next they will loop back through the other unfinished modules and drive them to a release [19:24:01] <clerum> of course if someone from the community steps up to assist they will make it there much faster [19:24:35] <gastaldi> yeah, the benefit of OSS [19:24:37] <gastaldi> :) [19:28:48] [19:29:05] <clerum> I would ping jay directly [19:29:43] [19:30:37] <tsurdilo> focusing now on next jbpm5 release gastaldi..then all the time can go into finishing integration [19:30:59] <gastaldi> tsurdilo: Nice going [19:31:47] <gastaldi> BTW, it would be nice if the BPM Module provides examples using JBPM 5 and ActiviBPM [19:32:20] <gastaldi> if possible, of course [19:32:58] <rruss> gastaldi: there's at least one position still open ... [19:33:15] <gastaldi> rruss: On Richfaces Team ? [19:33:18] <rruss> gastaldi: 7156 I believe [19:33:27] <rruss> gastaldi: yes sir [19:34:21] [19:34:49] <rruss> gastaldi: if you apply online, please also ping balunasj [19:35:21] <rruss> gastaldi: pay no attention to location ... it's any where in the world that there is a Red Hat office and Internet connection ;) [19:35:28] [19:36:18] <gastaldi> rruss: Thanks for the info ! [19:36:20] <rruss> gastaldi: I think they frown upon Beaver fans though [19:36:32] <rruss> :) [19:36:33] <gastaldi> lol [19:36:49] <rruss> gastaldi: and I hear the interviews are brutal ... [19:37:05] <gastaldi> no problem [19:37:20] <gastaldi> I took that line from http://jobs.redhat.com [19:37:23] <gastaldi> hehe [19:37:58] <rruss> gastaldi: I don't even think I know what that intro says on the page [19:38:19] <rruss> gastaldi: my eyes look directly for the search field [19:38:24] <gastaldi> lol [19:38:55] [19:39:16] <gastaldi> Is there a template or something ? [19:39:17] <rruss> gastaldi: if you are truly interested, the process will go much quicker if you notify balunasj when you apply [19:39:22] <gastaldi> sure [19:39:37] <rruss> gastaldi: not that I'm aware of [19:41:12] <rruss> mojavelinux: ping [19:47:49] <gastaldi> gotta go now, thanks for the info [19:49:01] *** gastaldi has quit IRC [20:09:48] *** bitshuffler has quit IRC [20:36:58] *** tsurdilo has quit IRC [20:43:46] *** bleathem has joined #seam-dev [20:43:46] *** bleathem_away has quit IRC [20:43:48] *** bleathem is now known as bleathem_away [20:50:54] *** tsurdilo has joined #seam-dev [20:56:37] *** kpiwko has quit IRC [21:05:39] *** tom2bor has quit IRC [21:40:14] *** adamw1pl has joined #seam-dev [22:08:02] *** sannegrinovero has quit IRC [22:10:07] *** oskutka has joined #seam-dev [22:20:59] *** Obsidians has quit IRC [22:21:11] <nickarls> interesting situation with wages and location, you could theoretically move to new york, get a freelancer prorgramming job and get paid "standard wages for your location" and then move to mexico and live like a king on that ;-) [22:21:35] <nickarls> no pun intended with mexico and king ;-) [22:23:57] *** marekn has joined #seam-dev [22:24:02] *** marekn has left #seam-dev [22:40:12] <nickarls> international has some yoda-time dep? [22:41:35] <nickarls> anyone around? everyone else have lives on a friday evening. damn. [22:41:58] <bleathem_away> it's friday afternoon over here [22:42:07] <bleathem_away> early afternoon [22:42:41] <nickarls> yeah, I'm always out of sync [22:44:21] <nickarls> ngh, the api/impl separation is nice but I always end up searching in the wrong branch [22:46:52] *** alesj has joined #seam-dev [22:50:08] <jose_freitas_afk> nickarls: YES IT HAS JODA DE [22:50:10] <jose_freitas_afk> sorry [22:50:17] <jose_freitas_afk> yes, it has joda dep [22:50:52] <jose_freitas_afk> it's optional though, and we register the related package with a @Requires("joda") [22:53:40] *** jose_freitas_afk is now known as jose_freitas [22:53:58] <nickarls> how does the optional stuff work? I dropped in a war with i18n in AS7 and got a CNFE [22:54:24] <nickarls> same thing with remoting and dom4j? [22:56:24] <jose_freitas> well, mvn optinal dep normally result in a CNFE, but only when you require the functionality (I guess) [22:57:01] <jose_freitas> so if you want to use the functionality you should add the dep [22:57:12] <nickarls> yes but it comes on deployment [22:57:17] <jose_freitas> don't know about dom4j and remoting, but I've used remoting basically without it [22:57:24] <nickarls> that's a bit soon to call it "usage" [22:57:47] <nickarls> note that this could be a AS 7 thing [22:58:13] <jose_freitas> hm or something on deployment process are you deploying manually? [22:58:21] <nickarls> as I've used i18n on AS6 and I don't recall seeing yoda-time there either. and it deployed [22:58:30] <nickarls> dropping in and touching a .dodeploy [22:58:40] <jose_freitas> hm [22:58:47] <Diablo-D3> AS6 doesnt come with joda time [22:58:49] <nickarls> perhaps AS7 has so aggressive scanning? [22:58:59] <jose_freitas> I don't believe so [22:59:00] <Diablo-D3> one of the seam things bitch about it on load [22:59:03] <jose_freitas> it would make it slower [22:59:05] <Diablo-D3> ie, its missing [22:59:07] <jose_freitas> and it's lighting fast [22:59:18] <Diablo-D3> is AS7 really that fast? [22:59:20] <jose_freitas> but I'm not sure nickarls [22:59:26] <jose_freitas> yes daniel_hinojosa [22:59:28] <jose_freitas> ops [22:59:30] <jose_freitas> yes Diablo-D3 [22:59:39] <Diablo-D3> why isnt it final yet ;_; [23:00:42] *** kenfinnigan has joined #seam-dev [23:00:47] <jose_freitas> maybe, it's not reading the @requires on AS7 [23:01:14] <jose_freitas> cause it should not register the bean if there's not the dep on classpath [23:02:31] <kenfinnigan> Talking about joda-time? [23:02:35] <jose_freitas> yes [23:02:44] <jose_freitas> nickarls had a CNFE [23:02:50] <jose_freitas> but within AS7 [23:02:57] <kenfinnigan> nickarls: Which version of AS7 are u using? [23:03:16] <nickarls> 20 minutes ago ;-) [23:03:28] <kenfinnigan> The new beta? [23:03:40] <nickarls> upstream master 20 minutes ago [23:03:47] <kenfinnigan> Oh ok [23:03:57] <Diablo-D3> btw, is there any way to get rid of the permgen memory thing forever? [23:04:08] <nickarls> more permgen [23:04:23] <Diablo-D3> that doesnt actually seem to work [23:04:24] <kenfinnigan> It may not work completely yet as I think stuartdouglas only got CDI working a couple of days ago [23:04:43] <Diablo-D3> it only seems to slow it to the point that I have to restart it anyhow because it takes like 10 minutes to load my war [23:09:37] *** kenfinnigan has quit IRC [23:12:31] <nickarls> ken: ok [23:12:47] *** alesj has left #seam-dev [23:12:57] <Diablo-D3> does AS7 still suffer from it? [23:13:28] <jose_freitas> suffer from what? [23:13:41] <Diablo-D3> permgen memory [23:15:48] <stuartdouglas> permgen is part of the JVM [23:16:01] <nickarls> diablo: no, it doesn't use that anymore, it uses external USB keys [23:16:08] <jose_freitas> hahaha [23:16:13] <stuartdouglas> The only way to get around it is to use a different JVM [23:16:28] <Diablo-D3> stuartdouglas: I know what it is [23:16:34] <Diablo-D3> but why does it run out? cant it unload the classes? [23:16:36] *** adamw1pl has quit IRC [23:16:45] <nickarls> stu: BTW what is the state of CDI on AS7? I'm getting CNFE:s for optional deps, is that expected at this stage? [23:17:04] <stuartdouglas> nickarls: That is a weld issue, it is fixed in the latest weld [23:18:20] <nickarls> stu: ok, thanks. do you know if the weld update can handle AS7 or is it manual update? [23:19:20] <mojavelinux> yes, you can update weld [23:19:27] <mojavelinux> easiest way is to just build AS 7 [23:19:31] <mojavelinux> only takes about 5 minutes [23:19:32] <stuartdouglas> when weld 1.1.1 is released I will upgrade AS7 to it, if you want to use the snapshot weld just copy it over the weld in the as7 modules dir [23:19:36] <mojavelinux> grab it from trunk [23:19:38] <mojavelinux> run ./build.sh install [23:19:52] <nickarls> I did [23:20:09] <Diablo-D3> hrm [23:20:16] <Diablo-D3> maybe AS7 DOES have a fix for running out of permgen [23:20:20] <mojavelinux> update to weld snapshot in root pom.xml [23:20:22] <Diablo-D3> it restarts a shitload faster [23:20:40] <nickarls> mojavelinux: yeah, gotta do that first [23:21:14] [23:21:50] <jose_freitas> weld-api, weld-core, and weld-spi.jar [23:36:37] *** lincolnthree has joined #seam-dev