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[00:11:22] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master a564490.. Lincoln Baxter III updated install docs to reflect snapshots location and new 'help' command
[00:11:22] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/a6bfbd8...a564490
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[00:18:07] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master ee0240c.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 1.0.0.Alpha2
[00:18:07] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/a564490...ee0240c
[00:18:10] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master b159459.. Lincoln Baxter, III [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration
[00:18:10] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/ee0240c...b159459
[00:19:50] <lincolnthree> this next part could take a very long time....
[00:19:51] <lincolnthree> lol
[00:19:53] <lincolnthree> uploading
[00:20:13] <lightguard_jp> jbossbot going to get kicked?
[00:20:22] <lincolnthree> doubtful this time
[00:20:43] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: releasing to nexus?
[00:20:47] <lincolnthree> yep
[00:20:50] <lincolnthree> doing that now
[00:20:51] <sbryzak> that takes ages...
[00:21:02] <sbryzak> forge is going to take forever, it's huge
[00:21:04] <lincolnthree> and i dont like seeing error messages in my logs while it runs...
[00:21:05] <lincolnthree> yeah
[00:21:11] <lincolnthree> 20mb dist file at this point
[00:21:22] <lincolnthree> really need to get the central forge plugin repo set up so that we can start reducing again
[00:21:33] <lincolnthree> deliver one 5mb file, and have it go fetch stuff
[00:21:42] <sbryzak> did we have a solution for that yet?
[00:21:50] <lincolnthree> yes, im working with rodney
[00:21:58] <lincolnthree> but been a little slow getting him our requirements
[00:22:05] <lincolnthree> need to hit up mike too on that
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[00:25:35] <lincolnthree> this is also the nail-biting part
[00:25:39] <lincolnthree> hope the internet doesn't die
[00:25:47] <lincolnthree> or you get to do it allll over again
[00:26:07] <lincolnthree> I also think it should WAIT until all modules have been built before it uploads anything
[00:26:19] <lincolnthree> as of right now, you could upload a partial build, which is why staging exists, but still.
[00:40:04] <lincolnthree> bingo sbryzak: http://repository.jboss.org/nexus/content/groups/public/org/jboss/seam/forge/forge-distribution/1.0.0.Alpha2/
[00:40:48] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: awesome, thanks
[00:40:56] <lincolnthree> np, thank you
[00:41:00] <lightguard_jp> :)
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[01:03:58] <lincolnthree> http://docs.jboss.org/forge/1.0.0.Alpha2/en-US/
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[03:13:02] <sbryzak> why does maven torment me so
[03:19:18] <johnament> i have one project at work.  builds correctly.  when i mvn release:prepare, never builds right
[03:20:18] <sbryzak> maven's always doing that to me
[03:20:51] <sbryzak> you would think though that my current problem would be an easy one to solve
[03:20:53] <johnament> in my case, it's the only project i have. multimodule, results are 3 WARs, 2 library JARs
[03:21:03] <johnament> the pom gets installed first. always
[03:21:09] <sbryzak> i simply want to extract the forge distribution into the forge directory in the seam distribution
[03:21:38] <sbryzak> however i want it to exclude the base directory in the forge distribution
[03:21:48] <sbryzak> there doesn't seem to be any simple way to achieve this
[03:22:38] <sbryzak> i.e. i'm getting /forge/forge-1.0.0.Alpha2/ when I just want /forge/
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[03:30:02] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: ping
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[04:43:27] <jbossbot> git [examples] push master e37f18d.. Shane Bryzak fix distribution for release
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[04:47:16] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 896ac0d.. Shane Bryzak documentation build updated for compatibility with bundled distribution
[04:47:17] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/b159459...896ac0d
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[09:38:44] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master feb7ddb.. mgencur at redhat dot com functional test for jaxrs-exceptions example
[09:38:44] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/b04866e...feb7ddb
[09:40:47] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master a8a874c.. Jozef Hartinger minor
[09:40:47] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/feb7ddb...a8a874c
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[11:26:33] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master 54eff35.. Shane Bryzak prepare for CR2 release
[11:26:33] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/dist/compare/94c75ec...54eff35
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[13:47:05] <nickarls> shane: ping
[13:48:11] <nickarls> sbryzak shane bryzak boss chief (one of they keywords should hit) ;-)
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[13:52:48] <sbryzak> someone mention my name?
[13:53:02] <nickarls> must have been the "boss" thing ;-)
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[13:53:46] <nickarls> in security it would be nice to have the failure message included in the authenticator interface
[13:53:54] <nickarls> now it's a bit boolean
[13:54:08] <sbryzak> there's an event i think
[13:54:16] <sbryzak> so nothing stopping you from adding one
[13:54:21] <sbryzak> one sec i'll confirm
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[13:54:56] <sbryzak> yep, org.jboss.seam.security.events.LoginFailedEvent
[13:55:21] <sbryzak> so add an observer for that to your authenticator, inject a Messages then add whatever message you like
[13:57:30] <nickarls> so the authenticator stores away the message and returns boolean, then the framework fires the event and the authenticator listenes and adds a facesmessage for example?
[13:58:09] <nickarls> (ok, it could do that in the authenticate method since it knows what it's about to return)
[13:58:16] <sbryzak> yep that would work
[13:58:23] <sbryzak> the authenticator doesn't return a boolean any more though
[13:58:26] <lincolnthree> sbryzak: still awake? :)
[13:58:28] <sbryzak> instead it has a status
[13:58:32] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: yep ;)
[13:58:44] <lincolnthree> sbryzak: what did you need last night? something about the forge zip?
[13:58:52] <nickarls> shane, ah, ok , thanks
[13:59:10] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: i had to modify the docs build slightly
[13:59:24] <sbryzak> also, i wanted to run the structure past you real quick
[13:59:41] <sbryzak> the release is done now, but we can do a retrospective ;)
[13:59:54] <sbryzak> i included a forge directory in the distribution
[14:00:04] <sbryzak> containing just the two shell scripts
[14:00:18] <sbryzak> all the files in lib i put into the base lib dir with all the other dependency libs
[14:00:31] <sbryzak> since there were quite a few common libs
[14:00:40] <sbryzak> that actually brought the distribution size down by 13mb or so
[14:01:00] <sbryzak> also i included the docs in the bundled reference documentation
[14:01:06] <sbryzak> forge is the first chapter now ;)
[14:02:35] <sbryzak> distribution is here for anyone interested: https://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/files/Seam/3/3.0.0.CR2/?
[14:02:44] <lincolnthree> woot! awesome
[14:02:52] <lincolnthree> did you need to modify the forge docs build
[14:02:53] <lincolnthree> ?
[14:03:02] <sbryzak> just a little
[14:03:09] <sbryzak> i needed it to produce a source artifact
[14:03:21] <sbryzak> also i prefixed the filenames and chapters with forge-
[14:03:29] <sbryzak> to prevent collisions
[14:03:32] <lincolnthree> ah ok, cool. could you push up that change if you havent already?
[14:03:36] <sbryzak> already done
[14:03:42] <lincolnthree> k awesome
[14:03:55] <lincolnthree> what time is it there for you anyway?
[14:04:02] <sbryzak> only 11pm right now
[14:04:07] <lincolnthree> oh not bad
[14:04:13] <sbryzak> do you know if the 1.2.1 errai release is due shortly?
[14:04:23] <sbryzak> that seems to be what the errai-cdi plugin for forge is dependent on
[14:04:36] <lincolnthree> i have no clue, would have to ask mike
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[14:04:56] <sbryzak> np, will catch him when he's on next
[14:05:02] <lincolnthree> the errai-cdi plugin is super prototype at the moment I believe.
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[14:05:22] <sbryzak> i couldn't get a simple helloworld app going unfortunately
[14:05:33] <lincolnthree> with errai or forge in general?
[14:05:36] <sbryzak> i'd intended to create one for the seam bundle, but it will have to wait until the final now
[14:05:38] <sbryzak> errai
[14:05:54] <lincolnthree> ive been having lots of problems getting scaffolded apps to deploy on jboss recently
[14:05:56] <lincolnthree> not sure what i broke
[14:06:03] <lincolnthree> the simple webapps work
[14:06:09] <lincolnthree> but not a webapp with persistence
[14:06:29] <sbryzak> exceptions?
[14:06:37] <lincolnthree> let me see..
[14:12:26] <lincolnthree> ugh. internet is dieing
[14:12:53] <lincolnthree> dying
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[14:27:04] <lincolnthree> ok. trace coming
[14:27:11] <lincolnthree> looks like a solder issue
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[14:28:29] <lincolnthree> oy? internet too slow to paste? wow
[14:28:42] <sbryzak> what's the root cause?
[14:28:45] <lincolnthree> hurry up FIOS people. install my fiber line!
[14:28:52] <lincolnthree> Exception 0 :
[14:28:52] <lincolnthree> java.lang.NullPointerException
[14:28:52] <lincolnthree> 	at org.jboss.seam.solder.core.CoreExtension.processAnnotatedType(CoreExtension.java:82)
[14:28:52] <lincolnthree> 	at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor283.invoke(Unknown Source)
[14:29:04] <lincolnthree> Solder Beta3 I believe
[14:29:12] <lincolnthree> yep
[14:30:20] <sbryzak> hmm, how about with Beta4?
[14:30:24] <sbryzak> or CR1?
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[14:30:54] <lincolnthree> wait that's not right
[14:30:59] <lincolnthree> this app doesn't even include solder
[14:31:18] <lincolnthree> ahh? old war
[14:31:19] <lincolnthree> sec
[14:39:21] <nickarls> hmm, how can I get a "'dependencies.dependency.version' for org.jboss.seam.security:seam-security:jar is missing" with the seam-bom imported for CR1?
[14:41:39] <sbryzak> nickarls: hmm, you shouldn't
[14:42:57] <nickarls> indeed
[14:43:56] <sbryzak> nickarls: can you show me your pom?
[14:44:01] <nickarls> well, no big deal to add the ${seam.version} there too. just out of curiosity...
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[14:44:38] <nickarls> http://pastebin.com/MeTv8Cp8
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[14:45:18] <sbryzak> ah, you need to put the seam-bom in dependencyManagement
[14:46:10] <lincolnthree> hmm. sbryzak: now deployment just seems to hang after CoreExtension does its @Veto handling
[14:46:14] <lincolnthree> Beta4
[14:46:29] <lincolnthree> But I found the real issue.
[14:46:39] <lincolnthree> My persistence XML is generated improperly
[14:46:55] <lincolnthree> it's adding a JTA-data-source, and also an empty non-JTA-data-source element that shouldn't be there
[14:46:59] <lincolnthree> shrinkwrap :(
[14:47:16] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: i would try solder CR1
[14:47:23] <lincolnthree> solder is fine :/
[14:47:45] <sbryzak> glad to have helped then ;)
[14:48:35] <lincolnthree> rubber ducky
[14:48:35] <lincolnthree> always works
[14:51:41] <sbryzak> docs are uploaded finally: http://docs.jboss.org/seam/3/latest/reference/en-US/html/
[14:53:07] <nickarls> shane: I didn't RT(Fresh)M close enough. thanks
[14:54:11] <sbryzak> nickarls: i'm just ashamed that i knew maven well enough to help you
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[14:55:31] <lincolnthree> I think we are coming to the point where now that forge is included in Seam, we should start bundling the Seam 3 plugins
[14:55:32] <lincolnthree> or get the repo set up so that we can at least install them into forge easily
[14:55:32] <lincolnthree> not to self, finish that
[14:56:02] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: which seam 3 plugins are there so far?
[14:56:11] <lincolnthree> none, basically
[14:56:21] <lincolnthree> the default scaffold uses persistence poorly
[14:56:22] <sbryzak> that should be pretty easy then
[14:56:25] <lincolnthree> lol
[14:56:50] <sbryzak> i guess config and persistence are the most important ones
[14:57:05] <lincolnthree> security too I'd say
[14:57:13] <lincolnthree> people never want to learn security
[14:57:21] <sbryzak> so true
[14:57:25] <lincolnthree> giving them an easy entry point would probably be good for adoption
[14:57:34] <lincolnthree> faces is a drop-in
[14:57:44] <sbryzak> definitely, users need as much hand holding as possible when it comes to security
[14:57:59] <sbryzak> and now with picketlink integration it's so much more complex
[14:58:00] <lincolnthree> for non-configured modules we could just write a seam-install plugin that will ask them which version of that module they want
[14:58:07] <lincolnthree> right
[15:03:14] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: do you have a descriptive blurb for forge that i can include in the release announcement?
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[15:17:22] <sbryzak> announcement done: http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Seam300CR2Released
[15:17:27] <lincolnthree> did you get that sbryzak ?
[15:17:30] <lincolnthree> woot
[15:17:43] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: no?
[15:17:59] <lincolnthree> How many times have you wanted to start a new project in Java EE, but struggled to put all the pieces together? Has the Maven archetype syntax left you scratching your head? Everyone else is talking about Rails, Grails, and Roo, and you're left thinking, "I wish it were that easy for me." Well, there's good news: You don't have to leave Java EE just to find a developer tool that makes starting out simple. Seam Forge is heating up Java EE
[15:17:59] <lincolnthree> It's also an incremental enhancement tool that lets you to take an existing Java EE projects and safely work-in new functionality. Seam Forge comprehends your entire project, including the abstract structure of the files, and can make intelligent decisions of how and what to change.
[15:17:59] <lincolnthree> Whether you want to get your startup going today, or make your big customers happy tomorrow, Seam Forge is a tool you should be looking at.
[15:18:08] <sbryzak> i can update the announcement if you like
[15:18:43] <lincolnthree> sure, this blurb is a little better :) take what you think is appropriate, the second paragraph might be what you want.
[15:19:01] <lincolnthree> in addition to what you have already
[15:19:06] <sbryzak> is there any content after the "Seam Forge is heating up Java EE" ?
[15:19:15] <sbryzak> the sentence seems to end prematurely
[15:19:18] <lincolnthree> oh it must have cut off
[15:19:19] <lincolnthree> yes
[15:19:27] <lincolnthree> , and is ready to work it into a full-fledged project.
[15:19:28] <lincolnthree> It's also an incremental enhancement tool that lets you to take an existing Java EE projects and safely work-in new functionality. Seam Forge comprehends your entire project, including the abstract structure of the files, and can make intelligent decisions of how and what to change.
[15:19:34] <lincolnthree> Whether you want to get your startup going today, or make your big customers happy tomorrow, Seam Forge is a tool you should be looking at.
[15:21:22] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: that's great, i've updated the announcement :)
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[15:22:09] <lincolnthree> sweet, looks good :)
[15:23:38] <sbryzak> wow in.relation.to is dog slow
[15:23:49] <lincolnthree> everybody is reading your announcement
[15:24:01] <sbryzak> that or spammers
[15:24:18] <lincolnthree> you're right. nike is at it again
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[15:37:08] <sbryzak> 12.35am, time for bed.. g'night all
[15:37:52] <lincolnthree> night sbryzak! changing of the guard
[15:44:10] <clerum> so tomorrow at 2100 UTC instead of 2200 UTC on Thursday?
[15:44:13] <clerum> for the meeting
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[16:54:24] <clerum> lincolnthree: I dropped the MailTemplate interface https://github.com/codylerum/mail/blob/seam-render/freemarker/impl/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/mail/templating/freemarker/FreeMarkerTemplate.java
[16:54:48] <clerum> just left some convenience constructors for String and File
[16:54:57] <lincolnthree> Awesome. I think you're right, the other bases are covered. Yeah.
[16:55:15] <lincolnthree> looks great
[16:55:25] <clerum> made things really simple
[16:55:37] <clerum> last thing I need to do is to create a test class for render
[16:55:44] <lincolnthree> That's always a good sign, simple
[16:56:15] <lincolnthree> test class, ok
[16:56:20] <lincolnthree> so this is easy
[16:56:23] <clerum> do you have something that describes the syntax of render
[16:56:24] <clerum> https://github.com/codylerum/mail/blob/seam-render/examples/sendmail/src/main/resources/template.html.velocity
[16:56:35] <lincolnthree> yeah, 1 sec
[16:56:38] <clerum> the "person" should be found by el resolver
[16:57:15] <lincolnthree> that would be: @{person.email} in render
[16:57:26] <lincolnthree> and @{person.name}
[16:57:48] <clerum> $version should be placed in the map<String,Object> that I pass in via the merge merge(Map<String, Object> context)
[16:57:53] <lincolnthree> @{mailContext.insert("seamLogo.png")}
[16:58:21] <lincolnthree> @{version}
[16:58:21] <clerum> mailcontext is a class
[16:58:24] <clerum> is that an issue?
[16:58:36] <lincolnthree> nope, shouldn't be as long as it's in the map under that name
[16:58:41] <clerum> yep it is
[16:58:48] <clerum> cool I'll see if I can get the test to pass
[16:59:15] <clerum> btw as far as project structure
[16:59:27] <clerum> https://github.com/codylerum/mail/tree/seam-render
[16:59:35] <clerum> now that each engine just has an impl
[16:59:52] <clerum> does it make sense to have freemarker/impl , render/impl
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[17:00:09] <clerum> or should it just be impl/freemarker, impl/velocity, impl/render
[17:00:26] <lincolnthree> https://github.com/lincolnthree/seam-render/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/render/test/ELVariableResolverTest.java
[17:00:56] <clerum> I suppose just stay the same way it is
[17:01:05] <clerum> since we have core/api and core/impl
[17:01:20] <lincolnthree> it probably doesn't really matter
[17:01:31] <lincolnthree> I'd probably do impl/render, impl/freemarker, impl/velocity
[17:01:33] <lincolnthree> but it doesnt matter
[17:01:46] <lincolnthree> or
[17:01:51] <clerum> less folders at the top level that way
[17:01:59] <clerum> but dan had me change it to the current way
[17:02:08] <clerum> that was when there was api and impl for each though
[17:02:14] <lincolnthree> engines/render, engines/freemarker, engines/velocity
[17:02:18] <clerum> I'll bounce it off him again
[17:02:27] <lincolnthree> copy me, im interested to see what he says
[17:02:32] <clerum> will do
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[17:10:00] <clerum> lincolnthree: as far a search order
[17:10:12] <clerum> something in the map will hit before EL right?
[17:10:19] <lincolnthree> should, yes
[17:10:22] <clerum> k
[17:10:36] <lincolnthree> yes, if not it's a bug
[17:10:55] <clerum> making sure if someone had "put" version in the map it was more important that "version" in el
[17:11:03] <clerum> not seeing anything just making sure
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[17:11:22] <lincolnthree> https://github.com/lincolnthree/seam-render/blob/master/src/test/resources/org/jboss/seam/render/views/el-resolver/single.xhtml
[17:12:32] <lincolnthree> https://github.com/lincolnthree/seam-render/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/render/test/MockBean.java
[17:12:32] <lincolnthree> https://github.com/lincolnthree/seam-render/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/seam/render/test/ELVariableResolverTest.java
[17:12:32] <lincolnthree> just to complete the picture :)
[17:12:32] <lincolnthree> not sure you need to add the TemplateResolver anymore
[17:12:32] <lincolnthree> that might be automatic now
[17:12:34] <lincolnthree> it should be?
[17:12:56] <lincolnthree> ahhh but i needed to set the classloader
[17:13:03] <lincolnthree> i think that's; why I did that
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[17:26:15] <clerum> lincolnthree: what if I just want a pass a string into render for the template
[17:26:28] <clerum> ie my template is
[17:26:29] <clerum>       String subject = "Text Message from @{version} Mail - " + uuid;
[17:26:38] <lincolnthree> Hmmm? hadn't thought of that. LOL
[17:26:52] <lincolnthree> new TemplateResource() {}
[17:28:05] <lincolnthree> My bad on that one :-p
[17:28:51] <clerum> nice for testing :-) short things that don't change like subjects
[17:29:06] <lincolnthree> also nice for just using the damn thing
[17:29:30] <clerum> you do all the fancy stuff like look it up out of the db
[17:30:39] <clerum> so just a new StringTemplateResource implmenting TemplateResource
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[17:32:25] <lincolnthree> yeah im implementing it now
[17:32:44] <clerum> ah cool
[17:32:59] <clerum> just lemmie know when a new snapshot is up on mvn
[17:33:04] <lincolnthree> will do
[17:33:07] <clerum> and I'll finish the testing
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[18:02:27] <clerum>             .bodyHtml(new RenderTemplate(templateCompiler.get(), "template.html.render"))
[18:02:40] <clerum> using
[18:02:40] <clerum> @Inject
[18:02:41] <clerum>    private Instance<TemplateCompiler> templateCompiler;
[18:03:02] <lincolnthree> perfect!
[18:03:17] <lincolnthree> im almost done creating StringTemplateResource() and InputStreamTemplateResource()
[18:03:27] <lincolnthree> Just testing now.
[18:03:35] <clerum> cool beans
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[18:22:51] <lincolnthree> clerum: thoughts on renaming TemplateCompiler to "Render" ?
[18:23:14] <lincolnthree> or RenderCompiler
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[18:39:14] <clerum> hmm
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[18:40:40] <clerum> either way
[18:40:50] <clerum> RenderCompiler
[18:42:01] <clerum> lincolnthree: name doesn't bother me either way I'm not farmiler enough with the overall structure
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[18:52:03] <lincolnthree> not sure im going to be able to deploy on my current internet connection
[18:52:37] <clerum> :-)
[18:52:52] <clerum> np
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[21:55:21] <lincolnthree> clerum: new snapshot uploaded
[21:55:39] <lincolnthree> use StringTemplateResource(), InputStreamTemplateResource(), FileTemplateResource()
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[21:57:58] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: there's some forge-related comments in the CR2 announcement - http://in.relation.to/18640.lace#comments
[21:58:10] <lincolnthree> probably people talking about it sucking ;)
[21:58:26] <sbryzak> couple of questions there
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[22:01:35] <lincolnthree> oy. forgot to upload dist file to sourcefourge
[22:01:39] <lincolnthree> can do that now that i have internet!
[22:01:41] <lincolnthree> FIBER!
[22:04:53] <clerum> cool
[22:04:58] <clerum> I'll take a look
[22:07:01] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree: Who's your ISP, Verizon?
[22:07:07] <lincolnthree> it is now
[22:07:15] <lightguard_jp> Cool
[22:07:22] <lightguard_jp> I know Dan likes it
[22:08:45] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: glad to hear you're properly connected to the rest of the world now
[22:12:45] <sbryzak> did we end up moving the community meeting to today?
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[22:26:18] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Tomorrow.
[22:26:43] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: It'll be Thursday for you, Wednesday for those East of UTC
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[22:27:16] <sbryzak> oh yeah, getting my timezones mixed up
[22:29:03] <lincolnthree> Hmmm? ALpha2 works for me on OsX and Unix
[22:29:09] <lincolnthree> guess there may be a windoze problem
[22:29:42] <lightguard_jp> Isn't Windows just the bane of none .NET development?
[22:30:27] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master b2b0152.. Lincoln Baxter, III JavaParser supports adding interfaces to Class and Interface types
[22:30:28] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/896ac0d...b2b0152
[22:33:32] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: it works on fedora 12 also
[22:41:58] * nickarls is trying out this Seam 3 thingie. What is a "Invalid bundle interface org.jboss.seam.servlet.messages.ServletMessages (implementation not found)" and why doesn't the ServletExtension find it?
[22:42:17] <lightguard_jp> nickarls: Which version are you using?
[22:43:22] <nickarls> CR1
[22:43:33] <lightguard_jp> Hm, I thought that was fixed in one of the betas
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[22:43:49] <lightguard_jp> nickarls: JBoss AS?
[22:44:00] <nickarls> 6.0.0.Final
[22:44:24] <lightguard_jp> IIRC that's related to JBoss Logging, which should already be present in AS6
[22:44:47] <nickarls> I have imported the seam-bom for CR1 and just added a bunch of seam stuff
[22:45:00] <nickarls> (seam-bom in dep.manag this time)
[22:45:19] <sbryzak> nickarls: add -Djboss.i18n.generate-proxies=true to your jboss startup
[22:45:32] <sbryzak> it's on the to-do list to fix before the final release
[22:45:32] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: That's still needed?
[22:45:37] <sbryzak> apparently yes
[22:45:49] <nickarls> pom is http://pastebin.com/tqNZjd82
[22:47:17] <nickarls> testing the parameter...
[22:47:56] <lightguard_jp> nickarls: You may need to add it to run.conf
[22:49:01] <sbryzak> you should be able to add it on the command line
[22:49:10] <nickarls> tadaa! (works from eclipse runtime conf at least)
[22:50:07] <sbryzak> i'll make a special note that we can't release until that's fixed
[22:50:28] <lightguard_jp> Makes me sick: http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/licenses/jsr342/JavaEE-7-Web-Profile-tck.standalone.1-28-11.pdf pg 13
[22:50:51] <nickarls> shane: that parameter is quite hard to guess ;-)
[22:51:48] <sbryzak> nickarls: i know, i know...
[22:52:17] <nickarls> jp: the prices?
[22:53:13] <lightguard_jp> Yep
[22:53:17] <lightguard_jp> That's for the TCK
[22:53:23] <lightguard_jp> For Web Profile
[22:53:31] <lightguard_jp> An extra 100k USD for full profile
[22:54:09] <lightguard_jp> Can't create new impls for profit that were created in a an "open" standards body without paying Oracle.
[22:56:07] <nickarls> anyone preventing enough of the "big guys" to start an opentck.org that would do their own certification against the specs? With an free, easy-to-integrate tck.
[22:57:11] <lightguard_jp> That's a legal mine field
[22:57:36] <lightguard_jp> If you license the TCK you can't create other testing suites against the spec
[22:58:41] <alesj> sbryzak: are you gonna release Seam3 Conversation as well?
[22:59:04] <alesj> I added the default lookup, sort of Dummy impl
[22:59:17] <sbryzak> alesj: i've already done a beta2 release
[22:59:50] <alesj> with that fix?
[23:00:01] <alesj> sbryzak: ^
[23:00:01] <sbryzak> pretty certain...
[23:00:06] <alesj> ok
[23:00:11] <alesj> should be fine then
[23:00:13] <sbryzak> i'll do another release before the final though
[23:00:30] <sbryzak> in fact, i'll probably do the remoting final release in the next couple of days
[23:00:44] <sbryzak> so i'll double check it all then
[23:01:20] <alesj> ok, cool
[23:15:30] <nickarls> hmm, wonder if you could use seam-config to change scope of another bean?
[23:18:16] <nickarls> I'd like to use database-backed resource bundles for the i18n module and I'd like to drop the application bundles scope from @ApplicationScoped to @SessionScoped so you can get updated labels for the next login...
[23:18:55] <sbryzak> nickarls: pretty sure you can override it, stuartdouglas can confirm
[23:20:08] * nickarls goes off to hunt down and kill the Welcome, #0 message in security login
[23:20:23] <stuartdouglas> yes, you should be able to override that using seam-xml
[23:21:11] <sbryzak> nickarls: that's in the SecurityEventMessages class
[23:22:00] <sbryzak> actually, i should probably disable that class by default
[23:27:11] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master cd6a515.. Lincoln Baxter, III NewEntityPlugin creates serializable entities by default.
[23:27:11] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master d360251.. Lincoln Baxter, III updated JANSI version to work on windows again... not sure what changed (jline?)
[23:27:11] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/b2b0152...d360251
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[23:40:14] <clerum> linconthree: any idea? https://gist.github.com/861259
[23:40:19] <clerum> testing to as6 remote
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[23:41:22] <lightguard_jp> clerum: Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.jboss.weld.exceptions.UnsatisfiedResolutionException
[23:41:31] <lightguard_jp> Very odd
[23:41:33] <clerum> yeah but why would that not be in AS6
[23:42:09] <lightguard_jp> You're not bundling weld with your test are you?
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[23:42:22] <clerum> solder
[23:42:24] <clerum> not weld
[23:43:04] <clerum> line 74 of https://gist.github.com/861259#file_gistfile2.txt
[23:43:32] <nickarls> I've seen arq swallow exceptions before. I had a producer serialization problem at runtime and all I got was the CNFE for a weld exception
[23:44:01] <lightguard_jp> Dump the war and try to run it manually, see what you get
[23:44:09] <clerum> yeah
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[23:44:55] <clerum> can I snag the generated test.war from anywhere?
[23:45:06] <clerum> is it an artifact left over anywhere?
[23:45:51] <lightguard_jp> You can have arquillian write the war out
[23:46:40] <lightguard_jp> Take a look at https://github.com/seam/solder/blob/master/impl/src/test/resources/arquillian.xml
[23:59:08] <clerum> ok I was able to get the war
[23:59:19] <clerum> how can I run it manually
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[23:59:50] <clerum> not picked up by dropping into server/default/deploy

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