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[01:42:19] <johnament> sbryzak: ping
[01:42:35] <sbryzak> johnament: pong
[01:42:59] <johnament> sbryzak: george and i were talking, I'm recommending to move up the JCR Alpha1 to 3/14 from 3/21
[01:43:22] <sbryzak> sure thing, i have no problem with that
[01:43:33] <johnament> i didn't think you would.
[01:43:54] <sbryzak> i can help out with the release whenever you guys are ready
[01:44:17] <johnament> i figure if we get everything together, we'll be feature complete mid April and ready for a final first few days of May
[01:44:22] <johnament> assuming no major bugs.
[01:44:25] <johnament> that would be appreciated.
[01:44:28] <sbryzak> sounds great
[01:45:53] <johnament> there was another idea I wanted to pitch, can seam persistence somehow fire events for the various callbacks in entity listeners?
[01:46:13] <johnament> i was looking... spring does something similar - the entity listeners can be spring beans.
[01:46:30] <sbryzak> you'll need to ask stuartdouglas
[01:46:34] <johnament> ah
[01:47:06] <stuartdouglas> I could
[01:47:18] <stuartdouglas> however I didn't because it seems like a fair bit of overhead
[01:48:15] <johnament> I agree with that as well.
[01:48:43] <johnament> the way spring does it is by proxying the underlying entity manager and looking up the reference.
[01:49:18] <johnament> since the EM control creation of the entity listeners, we can't make them managed objects right out of the gate.
[01:51:06] <johnament> i figure event firing fits in with CDI's development model better than explicitly supporting CDI components as entity listeners.
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[03:00:07] <gastaldi> Hey all
[03:01:38] <gastaldi> I created a maven plugin that automatically marks a version on jira as released
[03:02:23] <gastaldi> When a release ia made
[03:02:34] <gastaldi> Is made
[03:02:42] <gastaldi> Interesting ?
[03:05:36] <johnament> sounds cool, but what if you do sanity checks first?
[03:05:58] <gastaldi> You could attach to a later phase
[03:06:20] <gastaldi> Or activated on a release profile
[03:07:05] <johnament> usually what i do at work is we will "soft release" a code drop, have our testers test it, once they come back (like a day later) the official tag is marked.
[03:07:58] <gastaldi> Nice
[03:08:37] <gastaldi> The plugin could be used when a mvn release:prepare is fired
[03:09:12] <gastaldi> Btw, here is the source code : https://github.com/gastaldi/maven-jira-plugin
[03:11:19] <johnament> looks cool.
[03:12:49] <gastaldi> Its already used on a CI env for over 3 years
[03:13:01] <gastaldi> Quite stable btw
[03:14:22] <gastaldi> So, I think we should change the main page to include the first release date for seam jcr
[03:14:38] <gastaldi> Alpha-1 on the way
[03:18:05] <gastaldi> Are there any more volunteers for Seam JCR ?
[03:18:26] <gastaldi> specially docs and examples specialists :)
[03:25:44] <johnament> I just updated the dates.
[03:25:47] <johnament> The docs are nearly done.
[03:25:54] <johnament> I'm just working on your event stuff.
[03:26:08] <johnament> I figure examples aren't needed until alpha2.
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[15:12:16] <jose_freitas> jharting: ping
[15:19:00] <jharting> jose_freitas: pong
[15:20:58] <jose_freitas> hello jharting, dan took a time to make a cleanup on booking. did you see the new version?
[15:21:38] <jharting> jose_freitas: not yet, I'll take a look
[15:22:07] <jharting> jose_freitas: have there been a lot of changes?
[15:22:26] <jose_freitas> well, the biggest change was on the logging system
[15:22:36] <jose_freitas> which are now using jboss-logging
[15:22:47] 
[15:22:48] <jose_freitas> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-49
[15:22:50] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-49] Unsatisfied dependencies for type-safe logger [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Blocker, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-49
[15:23:47] <jose_freitas> and before that I did the cross validator works with uiinputContainer
[15:24:02] 
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[15:28:28] <jharting> jose_freitas: ok, SOLDER-49 does not bother me that much since it can be easily worked around
[15:28:29] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-49] Unsatisfied dependencies for type-safe logger [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Blocker, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-49
[15:28:56] 
[15:28:57] <jharting> jose_freitas: my tests for the example are available at https://github.com/jharting/seam-examples/tree/ftest however, I'll need to adapt them to the recent changes
[15:29:11] <jharting> jose_freitas: I'll get back to you with pull request once I do that
[15:29:35] 
[15:29:50] <jose_freitas> dan and sbryzak are
[15:29:51] <jose_freitas> :)
[15:30:18] <jharting> jose_freitas: ok
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[16:35:29] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master 843d88c.. mgencur at redhat dot com functional test for tasks-statistics example
[16:35:29] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/b3b56cd...843d88c
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[16:39:19] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master b7473f6.. Jozef Hartinger SEAMREST-29
[16:39:20] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMREST-29] Create an example demonstrating Apache velocity templating support [Open (Unresolved) Task, Major, Jozef Hartinger] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMREST-29
[16:39:20] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/843d88c...b7473f6
[16:46:46] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master b04866e.. Jozef Hartinger Use profile naming convention
[16:46:46] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/rest/compare/b7473f6...b04866e
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[17:55:32] <jose_freitas> sbryzak: ping
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[18:03:57] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: Shane is asleep
[18:04:16] <lightguard_jp> He won't be back online for another three or four hours
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[18:22:41] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 43c0924.. Lincoln Baxter, III added tests for fields containing names with keywords, fixed prompttype parsing, updated NPPlugin
[18:22:41] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/f508353...43c0924
[18:31:07] <jose_freitas> hm, thanks lightguard_jp
[18:37:14] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 19a8816.. unknown Merge branch 'master' of github.com:lincolnthree/seam-forge
[18:37:15] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master b24b062.. unknown renamed clashing template files
[18:37:15] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/43c0924...b24b062
[18:47:26] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: ping?.did you get my mail about the hibernatetools branch ?
[18:47:37] <lincolnthree> maxandersen: a long time ago?
[18:47:56] <lincolnthree> or did you send a new one>
[18:48:00] <maxandersen> well some time ago yes?you pinged me about the location - I gave it to you and then nothing ;)
[18:48:12] <lincolnthree> yeah, i took a look at it, got a bit confused, then forgot
[18:48:15] <lincolnthree> it's still in my inbox
[18:48:23] <maxandersen> just wanted to be sure you actually got it and then hear wahts up:)
[18:48:25] <maxandersen> ok
[18:48:34] <lincolnthree> you mentioned you needed to get some things into maven
[18:48:58] <lincolnthree> where do I get hibernate tools core?
[18:51:56] <lincolnthree> maxandersen: ^
[18:52:43] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: easiest is to pick up the jar from jbosstools?.or built it from source (assuming the mvn build there will work for you?)
[18:53:05] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: https://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbosstools/trunk/hibernatetools
[18:53:06] <lincolnthree> maxandersen: in order to include it in forge releases, i need a non-snapshot maven artifact in the jboss (or other) repo
[18:54:28] <maxandersen> yes thats what I said we dont have yet.
[18:54:41] <lincolnthree> can we make an alpha just so that I can reference it?
[18:54:57] <maxandersen> if someone want to help fix hibernatetools maven and setup the publish off it then that can happen sooner ;)
[18:55:10] <lincolnthree> ill take a look...
[18:57:39] <lincolnthree> maxandersen: im looking at the project. i don't see a project explicitly labeled as "core", to what are you referring?
[19:05:43] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: that is the core
[19:05:50] <maxandersen> hibernatetools is the core jar.
[19:05:56] <maxandersen> used by the hibernatetools eclipse plugins
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[21:40:29] <nickarls> what is the current shane-count on the channel?
[21:42:46] <johnament> i only see one.
[21:43:11] <nickarls> one would be sufficient if it's an active one
[21:43:34] <johnament> i usually just type his username when i want his attention for something, he tends to respond.
[21:43:53] <nickarls> a placebo-shane would do if he/she/it has insights in to seam-security
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[21:44:58] <stuartdouglas> It's 6:45am where he is, so sbryzak may not be up yet
[21:50:11] <nickarls> anyone have good theories on where to place per-view access checks with seam-security? I thought about sticking a view parameter of required roles in the metadata facet and check it in a pre-render event or a phaselistener but viewparams don't quite seam right.
[21:50:45] <nickarls> there's not that many places to associate views with metadata without introducing some pages.xml-like external configuration
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[22:04:56] <johnament> can you introduce new metadata JSF tags?
[22:06:20] <lightguard_jp> Should be able to
[22:06:27] <lightguard_jp> bleathem: Could say for sure though
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[22:10:58] <bleathem> hey
[22:11:08] <lincolnthree> whatsup bleathem
[22:11:23] <bleathem> hacking day
[22:12:12] <bleathem> johnament have a look at the Seam Faces s:viewAction tag
[22:12:56] <johnament> http.redirect( nickarls )
[22:13:12] <lincolnthree> 401 unauthorized
[22:13:15] <bleathem> oh, didn't back-read far enough :P
[22:13:38] <johnament> 301 moved permanently
[22:13:51] <johnament> bleathem: it's because you're too cutting edge
[22:14:15] <bleathem> gotta find adventure one way or another!
[22:15:04] <bleathem> nickarls: I always like the idea of putting page configuration stuff in the metadata tag
[22:16:08] <bleathem> SEAMFACES-33 addresses the page.xml replacement
[22:16:09] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-33] Create a solution for consolidated page-flow, transactional control, security constraints and URL-rewriting configuration [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Blocker, Stuart Douglas] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-33
[22:17:04] <stuartdouglas> the ViewDataStore thing can be configured however you like
[22:17:18] <stuartdouglas> (actually writing the code to configure it is left as an exercise to the reader)
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[22:59:58] <jbossbot> git [validation] push master 27d8e05.. Gunnar Morling SEAMVALIDATE-3: Adding missing chapters to reference guide (work in progress)
[22:59:59] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMVALIDATE-3] Add missing chapters to reference guide [Coding In Progress (Unresolved) Enhancement, Blocker, Gunnar Morling] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMVALIDATE-3
[22:59:59] <jbossbot> git [validation] push master 86d77a8.. Gunnar Morling SEAMVALIDATE-3: Improving formatting of examples
[22:59:59] <jbossbot> git [validation] push master 2eda3fd.. Gunnar Morling SEAMVALIDATE-3: Adding readme file to helloworld example
[23:00:00] <jbossbot> git [validation] push master 90148e2.. Gunnar Morling SEAMVALIDATE-3: Adding section to installation chapter
[23:00:00] <jbossbot> git [validation] push master fe800ed.. Gunnar Morling SEAMVALIDATE-3: Adding not on technology preview state of Seam Validation, improving wording
[23:00:00] <jbossbot> git [validation] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/validation/compare/5f1c84f...fe800ed
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[23:00:18] <gastaldi> hello all
[23:00:41] <gastaldi> Is the docs project built separately from the normal build ?
[23:01:09] <gastaldi> I am working on seam jcr, and "docs" is not a module on my root pom.xml
[23:01:37] <gastaldi> I wonder if this that way
[23:04:10] <gastaldi> * cricket*
[23:04:35] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 8aadef7.. Lincoln Baxter III file.delete() no longer defaults to recursive
[23:04:35] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master e4df923.. Lincoln Baxter III Test harness correctly creates and cleans up temp folder on windows
[23:04:35] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/b24b062...e4df923
[23:04:54] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: ping
[23:05:06] <lincolnthree> gastaldi: not sure about that module, but most modules only build docs when doing a distribution build (it's in a different profile)
[23:05:09] <lincolnthree> sbryzak: pong
[23:05:32] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: do you mind if i do a maven release for forge to include in the seam CR2 release?
[23:05:41] <sbryzak> we could call it 1.0.0.PR1 or something
[23:06:05] <lincolnthree> sbryzak: i'm coming close to doing that myself this week hopefully. ive been wanting to do it every day
[23:06:07] <lincolnthree> when do you need it?
[23:06:16] <sbryzak> right now ;)
[23:06:20] <lincolnthree> ahhhhh
[23:06:21] <lincolnthree> one sec
[23:06:23] <lincolnthree> let me check a few things
[23:06:35] <gastaldi> What does PR1 stands for ?
[23:06:38] <gastaldi> Preview Release ?
[23:06:45] <lincolnthree> that would be my guess
[23:06:47] <sbryzak> gastaldi: yes, preview release
[23:07:01] <lincolnthree> but I'll call it Alpha2 if that's alright :) since I already started that terminology, sbryzak?
[23:07:19] <gastaldi> that would make more sense :)
[23:07:21] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: sure thing, if you're ready for an alpha2
[23:07:29] <lincolnthree> alphas an alpha
[23:07:30] <sbryzak> i just didn't want to interfere with your release schedule
[23:07:35] <lincolnthree> np, im behind...
[23:07:40] <lincolnthree> gimme a minute
[23:07:40] <gastaldi> Alpha-1.5
[23:07:43] <lincolnthree> hah
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[23:21:17] <lincolnthree> sbryzak: starting the release process
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[23:25:35] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: great, thanks
[23:25:55] <lincolnthree> just updating a few of the docs to reflect new APIs before I kick it off for real
[23:27:31] <lincolnthree> actually, question for you sbryzak
[23:27:38] <sbryzak> lincolnthree: sure
[23:27:44] <lincolnthree> how do you get the docs version to update with the build?
[23:27:52] <lincolnthree> Do you have to go in every time and do it yourself?
[23:28:08] <sbryzak> for the maven release you mean?
[23:28:11] <lincolnthree> yes
[23:28:18] <sbryzak> you need to add the docs module to the parent
[23:28:24] <sbryzak> but only activate it for the release profile
[23:28:26] <lincolnthree> done
[23:28:38] <sbryzak> otherwise it will build every time, which would be... annoying
[23:28:53] <lincolnthree> right, but for including the version number in the actual documentation headers
[23:28:59] <lincolnthree> Alpha2
[23:28:59] <lincolnthree> etc
[23:29:00] <sbryzak> ah, that
[23:29:05] <sbryzak> one sec
[23:30:01] <sbryzak> take a look at SEAM-14
[23:30:03] <jbossbot> jira [SEAM-14] Figure out how to get ${project.version} replaces in ref guide and readme [Open (Unresolved) Task, Minor, Dan Allen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAM-14
[23:30:45] <lincolnthree> beautiful, thanks
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[23:48:30] <lightguard_jp> Nice to see Google worked the concurrent editing issue. But I think it would still blow up if 2+ people edited on the same line.
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[23:58:46] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master 37f12d5.. Lincoln Baxter, III docbook version should automatically refer to build version
[23:58:46] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master a6bfbd8.. Lincoln Baxter III docbook version automatically mirrors build version
[23:58:47] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/e4df923...a6bfbd8

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