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[03:08:23] <jbossbot> git [international] push master 4aa1ec3.. mgencur at redhat dot com Functional test for seam-timeanddate example
[03:08:23] <jbossbot> git [international] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/international/compare/21b5d01...4aa1ec3
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[05:38:05] <bleathem> Any JSF experts in here tonight?
[05:38:28] <stuartdouglas> I'm not an expert, but I know a bit
[05:38:30] <bleathem> Anyone know if I can publish a ExceptionQueuedEventContext from within a JSF ExceptionHandlerWrapper?
[05:38:40] <bleathem> Hey stuart!
[05:39:02] <bleathem> I'm digging in deep to JSF exception handling
[05:39:35] <bleathem> Trying to polish off the Catch/Faces integration
[05:39:52] <stuartdouglas> ok, I have no idea about your question though
[05:40:35] <bleathem> np
[05:40:49] <bleathem> I think I just need to try it and see what happens
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[06:16:28] <bleathem> ConcurrentModificationException
[06:16:32] <bleathem> Guess that answers that
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[06:20:09] <bleathem> I could spend a week straight writing Arquillian tests for Faces
[06:21:13] <bleathem> rye time
[06:21:16] <rruss> bleathem: and still not be done? :)
[06:22:02] <bleathem> still not be done, and I'd just be showing off a bunch of things that *don't* work
[06:22:35] <bleathem> course it would probably make it easier to fix... or at least that's how the story goes :P
[06:23:03] <rruss> ha ... I was going to say at least you'd know when you fixed something
[06:25:11] <bleathem> goal for tonight: finish at one Arquillian test before this glass is empty!
[06:25:16] <bleathem> ^at least
[06:30:24] <bleathem> stuartdouglas You're persistence right?
[06:30:30] <stuartdouglas> yes
[06:30:37] <bleathem> I'm looking at how you structured your arquillian tests
[06:30:55] <bleathem> I like how you have each platform in a separate project
[06:31:17] <stuartdouglas> You kind need to if you want multiple platforms in the same test run
[06:31:24] <bleathem> what's in the tests/base project?
[06:31:32] <stuartdouglas> the actual tests
[06:31:39] <bleathem> oic
[06:31:46] <bleathem> nice
[06:31:47] <stuartdouglas> in the other projects there is just a class that inherrits from them
[06:32:31] <bleathem> alright, I think I know how Faces tests are going to be structured now...
[06:33:06] <stuartdouglas> did you get a chance to look at the transactions stuff?
[06:33:18] <bleathem> no, not yet
[06:33:41] <bleathem> I'm trying to get Pete the information he needs for the Weld bug I have open against this Faces/Catch integration
[06:34:04] <bleathem> I'd really like that to be working for Seam 3.0
[06:34:49] <bleathem> wait, what transactions stuff?
[06:35:08] <stuartdouglas> the transaction phase listener we talked about this morning
[06:35:17] <stuartdouglas> your afternoon probably
[06:35:33] <bleathem> We talked about the type safe pages.xml replacement
[06:35:38] <bleathem> are they related?
[06:35:44] <stuartdouglas> yes
[06:35:46] <stuartdouglas> sort of
[06:35:49] <bleathem> ah, ok :D
[06:36:03] <stuartdouglas> as in, you configure the transaction phase listener with the type safe replacement
[06:36:10] <stuartdouglas> the type safe replacement is all there
[06:36:20] <stuartdouglas> it just needs stuff to configure...
[06:36:41] <bleathem> yeah, I want to get to that soon.  today is the first day it popped up on my radar
[06:37:02] <bleathem> that and the x-field validation dan brought up.
[06:37:29] <bleathem> I think Seam IRC meetings can be dangerous for getting new work
[06:39:33] <bleathem> I lose, the glass is empty!
[06:39:42] <bleathem> or maybe that's a win!
[06:46:03] <bleathem> ok WELD-855 updated
[06:46:05] <jbossbot> jira [WELD-855] Error while catching NonexistentConversationException with Seam Faces/Catch [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WELD-855
[06:46:19] <bleathem> I sure hope Pete can get to the bottom of that one.
[06:49:11] <jbossbot> git [faces] push master b858e6f.. Brian Leathem SEAMFACES-90
[06:49:12] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-90] Exceptions thrown within a Seam Catch handler are swallowed by Faces [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Brian Leathem] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-90
[06:49:12] <jbossbot> git [faces] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/faces/compare/48f1be6...b858e6f
[06:50:10] <bleathem> jose_freitas ping
[07:00:31] <stuartdouglas> I downloaded IDEA today
[07:00:54] <stuartdouglas> So far it has been much better than eclipse
[07:03:14] <bleathem> ever used Netbeans?
[07:03:40] <bleathem> it's my poison of choice
[07:03:53] <bleathem> I've never tried idea though
[07:04:03] <stuartdouglas> I have used it back in the day
[07:04:18] <stuartdouglas> I liked some things, but I found eclipse better
[07:04:26] <stuartdouglas> then m2eclipse came along and ruined it for me
[07:04:28] <bleathem> I like it for it's maven integration
[07:04:53] <stuartdouglas> It looks like all the transaction stuff is actually still in seam faces
[07:05:00] <bleathem> yeah, m2eclipse never seemed quite right to me, from the little I used it
[07:05:09] <bleathem> right on
[07:05:39] <bleathem> it's just not being registered with JSF at the moment?
[07:05:53] <stuartdouglas> It looks like you could just add a view vonfic enum that enables faces and it may just work
[07:06:02] <stuartdouglas> it is disabled by default
[07:06:09] <stuartdouglas> and can be enabled/disabled per view
[07:06:20] <bleathem> ah, ok
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[07:19:58] <stuartdouglas> also there is a setting where it is only active during render_response, so you can control the transactions manually when actually doing stuff
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[07:20:10] <stuartdouglas> and then keep one open while rendering to prevent LIE's
[07:21:02] <bleathem> I recall Jason Lee trying to build a sample app using that a couple of weeks ago
[07:21:15] <bleathem> I wonder how far he got with that
[07:22:48] <stuartdouglas> I don't even know if it actually works :-)
[07:24:13] <bleathem> I'll get faces set up with this arquillian test infrastructure, then we can see if it works via tests
[07:24:30] <jbossbot> git [security] push master 5fe15cf.. Shane Bryzak minor
[07:24:30] <jbossbot> git [security] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/06aa0a5...5fe15cf
[07:24:37] <stuartdouglas> cool
[07:24:43] <bleathem> I should have a new years resolution to not write any more sample apps
[07:24:50] <bleathem> arquillian only
[07:24:54] <stuartdouglas> that was the only reason I did not test it the first time
[07:25:09] <stuartdouglas> cause the test infrastructure was not set up
[07:36:22] <bleathem> stuartdouglas: in your persistence test poms, you skip tests, saying they will be performed in the integration test phase
[07:36:30] <stuartdouglas> yes
[07:36:36] <stuartdouglas> do I have the maven artifacts
[07:36:39] <bleathem> how do you get the tests to run in the integration test phase?
[07:36:42] <stuartdouglas> s/do/so/
[07:37:19] <stuartdouglas> It should be in one of the poms
[07:37:24] <stuartdouglas> probably the parent
[07:37:38] <bleathem> nevermind, I found it
[07:37:45] <bleathem> (yes it is in one of the poms)
[07:39:04] <stuartdouglas> The main advantage of that is it lets you bundle solder etc as they would actually be deployed in a real app
[07:42:10] <bleathem> if a dependency is of scope test, is it available during the integration test phase?
[07:50:02] <bleathem> ok, that's enough. sleep time
[07:50:24] <bleathem> g'nite
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[08:19:09] <jbossbot> git [security] push master 1561689.. Shane Bryzak disabled broken test
[08:19:09] <jbossbot> git [security] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/security/compare/5fe15cf...1561689
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[08:48:25] <oskutka> sbryzak: ping
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[08:53:14] <sbryzak> oskutka: pong
[08:53:31] <oskutka> sbryzak: Hi Shane! What's wrong with the security client IntegrationTest?
[08:53:43] <oskutka> sbryzak: Can we help repairing it?
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[08:54:05] <sbryzak> it's throwing some weird exception
[08:54:17] <sbryzak> and i don't know enough about arquillian to fix it
[08:54:57] <sbryzak> you're welcome to take a look
[08:55:35] <oskutka> I'll ask Karel. He's our Arquillian expert.
[08:57:35] <sbryzak> thanks
[08:57:46] <sbryzak> if he could take a look at the wicket numberguess tests also that would be great
[08:58:03] <sbryzak> it's throwing a NPE in arquillian, but only when you run it with the release profile
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[09:04:19] <oskutka> kpiwko1: (08:57:44) sbryzak: if he could take a look at the wicket numberguess tests also that would be great
[09:04:19] <oskutka> (08:58:01) sbryzak: it's throwing a NPE in arquillian, but only when you run it with the release profile
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[09:05:43] <kpiwko> sbryzak: hi Shane, can you give me more info about that Arquillian + Seam Security test?
[09:06:40] <sbryzak> yep, I think it was throwing a ClassNotFoundException
[09:06:46] <sbryzak> for one of the weld classes
[09:07:22] <sbryzak> from memory, I think it was BeanDeployment but I could be wrong
[09:07:38] <sbryzak> if you run the external tests you'll see it
[09:08:11] <sbryzak> the master has the test disabled at the moment though, so if you get latest from github you'll have to remove the bits i've commented out
[09:08:49] <sbryzak> oh, it was org.jboss.seam.security.externaltest.integration.client.IntegrationTest
[09:09:33] <kpiwko> sbryzak: ok, I'll try to dig where the problem is
[09:09:44] <sbryzak> thanks
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[11:34:22] <allforjava> how sem-gen overrides the hbmtemplate properties: http://community.jboss.org/message/589537#589537
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[13:35:58] <sbryzak> mojavelinux: ping
[13:36:44] <sbryzak> ah, bit early for dan to be awake...
[14:10:36] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master b3aa47a.. Shane Bryzak minor, build
[14:10:36] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/wicket/compare/51bf364...b3aa47a
[14:21:32] <jose_freitas> jharting
[14:21:34] <jose_freitas> ping:
[14:22:37] <jharting> jose_freitas: pong
[14:24:16] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master ab2ef17.. Shane Bryzak update distribution structure
[14:24:17] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/wicket/compare/b3aa47a...ab2ef17
[14:27:52] <jose_freitas> booking example is already on seam/examples master
[14:28:06] <jose_freitas> register and password change should work now
[14:29:00] <jose_freitas> FYI
[14:29:09] <jose_freitas> :)
[14:29:38] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master 28719d3.. Shane Bryzak [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 3.0.0.CR1
[14:29:38] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/wicket/compare/ab2ef17...28719d3
[14:29:49] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master c3a44c5.. Shane Bryzak [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration
[14:29:50] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/wicket/compare/28719d3...c3a44c5
[14:34:43] <jharting> jose_freitas: thanks I've noticed and implemented password change tests today morning, more to come, probably next week
[14:35:03] <jharting> jose_freitas: when are you tagging the source that goes into CR1?
[14:35:23] <jharting> jose_freitas: we do not need tests in by then, I am just curious
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[14:36:37] <jose_freitas> sorry, I'm not sure what do you mean by tagging the source
[14:38:34] <jharting> when is the deadline for getting stuff into the example so that it makes it into CR1
[14:39:29] <jharting> sbryzak: SEAMWICKET-26 is only waiting for pull, any chance getting it in for CR1?
[14:39:30] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMWICKET-26] Implement functional tests for the numberguess example [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Task, Major, Clint Popetz] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMWICKET-26
[14:39:43] <sbryzak> oops, i've just released
[14:39:49] <jharting> sbryzak: ok, np
[14:39:56] <sbryzak> sorry ;/
[14:40:07] <jharting> sbryzak: we can use that tests anyway
[14:40:16] <jharting> sbryzak: just wanted to get that closed
[14:41:24] <sbryzak> i'll apply the pull request shortly
[14:55:54] <sbryzak> jharting: do you know if this pull request is still valid? https://github.com/seam/wicket/pull/3
[14:57:58] <jharting> sbryzak: no idea
[14:58:43] <sbryzak> i might leave it up to client to apply then
[14:58:47] <sbryzak> *clint in mean
[14:58:55] <sbryzak> argh, it's getting late..
[14:59:04] <sbryzak> fingers can't type good now
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[14:59:54] <jharting> sbryzak: :-)
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[15:03:04] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master 1b016ba.. Shane Bryzak Merge branch 'ftest' of https://github.com/jharting/seam-wicket into jharting-ftest...
[15:03:04] <jbossbot> git [wicket] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/wicket/compare/c3a44c5...1b016ba
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[15:09:20] <johnament> jganoff: sorry that i'm constantly bad news bears :/
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[15:17:07] <jganoff> johnament, someone has to do it!
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[15:22:19] <johnament> jganoff: don't know if you saw, but the issue got rejected, apparently the spec's written wrong in that one spot.
[15:23:23] <jganoff> johnament, I did. The monkey wrenches are flying at full speed.
[15:24:06] <johnament> jganoff: the good thing is that by themselves, egress & ingress now work.
[15:25:06] <johnament> i have code in place that requires a @Routing on the method, to define which direction it is.
[15:25:23] <johnament> personally, for an Alpha2, I think that's going to be the best we can do.
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[15:25:48] <johnament> Pete's recommendations for bean resolution work mostly, with a little help from stuartdouglas
[15:25:59] <johnament> TCCL is fixed.
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[17:12:57] <jbossbot> git [faces] push master 23039f2.. Marek Schmidt ftest for the short-ly example
[17:12:57] <jbossbot> git [faces] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/faces/compare/b858e6f...23039f2
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[17:38:15] <pmuir> johnament: ping
[17:43:03] <johnament> pmuir: pong
[17:43:37] <pmuir> johnament: do we need jganoff to discuss the jms stuff?
[17:44:21] <johnament> pmuir: it would probably help.
[17:44:36] <pmuir> ok, do you want to email the dev list with a time for next week sometime?
[17:44:52] <pmuir> if you make it EST late morning we should get most people
[17:44:59] <pmuir> we can go through the current state etc.
[17:45:16] <johnament> jganoff: i assume you're away.
[17:45:39] <johnament> pmuir: i can do that.  next week's not all that great, i'm travelling beginning and end, so it might only be wednesday that i'm available.
[17:46:12] <pmuir> ok, i'm on pto the following week, so lets do something week starting 14th?
[17:46:46] <johnament> pmuir: i'm on PTO w/o 3/14
[17:47:07] <pmuir> i guess you can just not include this stuff in the seam release?
[17:47:19] <johnament> CR? Final?
[17:47:32] <johnament> I think JMS has already been excluded from the 3.0 release.
[17:47:35] <pmuir> either, any
[17:47:36] <pmuir> ok
[17:47:40] <pmuir> that is a shame
[17:47:44] <pmuir> it's one of the best modules
[17:47:56] <pmuir> ok
[17:48:41] <johnament> pmuir: it has potential.
[17:48:54] <pmuir> ok, one of the best ideas ;-)
[17:49:04] <pmuir> ok, let's do something the week after that then
[17:49:05] <johnament> pmuir: as i mentioned, i still would love to push forward w/ an alpha that includes what we can actually do.
[17:49:13] <johnament> pmuir: is wednesday no good?
[17:49:14] <pmuir> you should do that
[17:49:20] <pmuir> i thought you sounded too buzy
[17:49:22] <pmuir> busy
[17:49:23] <pmuir> oops
[17:49:29] <pmuir> but yeah, weds we can do
[17:50:15] <pmuir> fine for me
[17:50:18] <pmuir> so pick a time :-D
[17:50:55] <johnament> 11am?
[17:51:12] <johnament> we need to make sure it works for jganoff though, i can sit here at work and connect via webchat.
[17:51:27] <jganoff> I'm back
[17:51:35] <jganoff> Busy working ;)
[17:51:43] <johnament> jganoff: stop working so much.
[17:51:52] <jganoff> johnament, I enjoy it too much.
[17:52:35] <johnament> pmuir: would you be able to talk now?
[17:52:36] <jganoff> pmuir, have you decided on the day?
[17:52:42] <pmuir> johnament: not really
[17:52:49] <jganoff> johnament, I can't talk now either
[17:52:53] <johnament> doh
[17:52:57] <pmuir> let's do weds, late morning est?
[17:53:16] <johnament> jganoff: would 11am work for you? pmuir what's that 4pm for you?
[17:53:27] <jganoff> johnament, 11am next wednesday?
[17:53:32] <jganoff> (EST)
[17:53:35] <johnament> 3/2
[17:54:30] <jganoff> if it's during the work day any time is equal - not preferred but I'll make it work
[17:55:37] <pmuir> yes that works for me
[17:59:43] <johnament> pmuir jganoff: ok, so 3/2 at 11am EST
[18:00:14] <jganoff> johnament, 1 sec...
[18:00:30] <jganoff> johnament, that works. ;)
[18:00:57] <jganoff> need to run, bbl
[18:01:35] <pmuir> see you
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[18:32:03] <ssachtleben> hi
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[21:25:34] <jose_freitas> bleathem: ping
[21:25:40] <bleathem> hey
[21:26:05] <jose_freitas> hey bleathem, do you plean to work on this: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-33 for the final release?
[21:26:07] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-33] Create a solution for consolidated page-flow, transactional control, security constraints and URL-rewriting configuration [Open (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, Stuart Douglas] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-33
[21:26:30] <bleathem> We talked about it in the meeting yesterday
[21:26:56] <bleathem> Stuart (who wrote that bit) was under the impression that it might actually be working
[21:26:57] <jose_freitas> sorry, I lost it, the DST ended here and I forgot to reschule.
[21:27:19] <jose_freitas> reschedule*
[21:27:21] <jose_freitas> hm...
[21:27:42] <bleathem> it just needs some testing
[21:28:06] <jose_freitas> nice!
[21:28:16] <bleathem> I'm right now working on building up the Arquillian testing infrastructure in Faces
[21:28:28] <bleathem> which I want to use to test this feature.
[21:28:44] <bleathem> I've mayde a new March resolution not to right any more sample apps for testing
[21:28:50] <bleathem> Arquillian all the way!
[21:29:14] <jose_freitas> great!
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[21:29:31] <bleathem> (We need resolutions for every new month, not just every new year)
[21:29:54] <bleathem> I made some changes to the Faces/Catch integration last night
[21:30:07] <bleathem> I'm curious if it broke what you were initially trying to fix
[21:30:08] <jose_freitas> I may need some new resolutions too
[21:30:49] <bleathem> The problem with the fix that we architected here in IRC, was that Faces swallowed genuinely exceptional exceptions created in Catch
[21:31:03] <bleathem> for instance, even an NPE thrown in a catch handler
[21:31:10] <jose_freitas> hm
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[21:31:29] <bleathem> SEAMFACES-90
[21:31:30] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-90] Exceptions thrown within a Seam Catch handler are swallowed by Faces [Resolved (Done) Bug, Major, Brian Leathem] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-90
[21:31:59] <bleathem> So I patched it last night to only "swallow" the exception, when the one thrown from Catch is the same as the one handled by catch
[21:32:15] <bleathem> this should allow your rethrow use case to continue to work
[21:32:37] <jose_freitas> hm
[21:32:50] <jose_freitas> on my test I was testing with all Trowables
[21:32:56] <jose_freitas> Throwables*]
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[21:33:30] <jose_freitas> I'll test the snapshot later
[21:33:39] <bleathem> That would be cool, thx
[21:34:16] <bleathem> An Arquillian test for catch rethrow would be a good test to have in place
[21:34:37] <jose_freitas> yes, but I still can't work really well with arquillian
[21:34:37] <bleathem> I just need to get the infrastructure done.
[21:34:54] <bleathem> that's cool, me neither!
[21:34:58] <bleathem> :D
[21:35:26] <bleathem> I'm hoping that when we get some sample JSFUnit tests in place, it'll be easy for anyone to copy/modify them to suit there needs
[21:35:37] <bleathem> s/there/their/
[21:35:46] <jose_freitas> =)
[21:35:54] <bleathem> so much to do.. such little time!
[21:36:01] <jose_freitas> ok
[21:36:09] <bleathem> I started it last night, hopefully I can finish it tonight
[21:36:17] <jose_freitas> can I start with that bug about the cross validator?
[21:36:36] <jose_freitas> or do you want to work it out?
[21:37:07] <bleathem> If you've got some ideas, go for it!
[21:37:22] <jose_freitas> ok, I might need some help though
[21:37:29] <bleathem> There are more than enough issues to go around :P
[21:37:48] <jose_freitas> hehehe
[21:37:49] <bleathem> sure,
[21:38:04] <bleathem> I'll try and help as I can!
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[21:44:21] <jose_freitas> thanks bleathem
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