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[08:12:14] <jharting> sbryzak: ping
[09:20:31] <sbryzak> jharting: pong
[09:22:51] <jharting> sbryzak: shane, I won't be able to get seam-rest beta2 out this weekend, does it make sense to bundle seam-rest beta1 with the beta2 dist?
[09:23:06] <sbryzak> jharting: no problem, i can bundle beta1
[09:23:15] <jharting> sbryzak: ok, thanks
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[16:28:55] <jganoff> morning Lincoln!
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[18:37:25] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master ef36f09.. Lincoln Baxter, III Added improved error reporting colorization, tab-completion is more forgiving, ignored tokens are now mentioned after parsing a command instead of throwing an exeption, tab-completion highlights required options
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[19:38:39] <johnament> aslak: awake?
[19:43:51] <aslak> johnament, heya
[19:44:17] <johnament> hey. nm actually, stupid log file rolled over on me.
[19:44:39] <aslak> :)
[19:45:46] <johnament> :-( actually
[19:46:06] <jganoff> johnament, howdy, how's it going?
[19:46:26] <johnament> jganoff: not too bad. you got one pull request and i'm about to send a second.
[19:46:55] <johnament> aslak: so tell me if this makes any sense.  i build an app as a test case, everything works as expected.  through it in to an arquillian test, doesn't work.
[19:47:02] <jganoff> johnament, I saw, very nice.  I'm having a hell of a time trying to come up with alternative ways of defining routes now that AfterBeanDiscovery can't be used how it's long been through to be used
[19:47:17] <johnament> jganoff: ?
[19:47:51] <jganoff> johnament, Beans aren't guaranteed to be usable during AfterBeanDiscovery so the way I currently cache the producers and then try to invoke them during ABD to register ObserverMethods it's guaranteed
[19:48:08] <jganoff> which is bad news for at least one other modules as well, Drools.
[19:48:22] <jganoff> since they rely on the same idea to let users provide configuration
[19:48:35] <johnament> jganoff: when did that come up? that sounds like my classloader problem... :/
[19:49:06] <jganoff> johnament, Came up earlier this week when I was working with Martin Gencur on a Seam JMS example; however, just last night I had enough time to debug into it.
[19:50:04] <johnament> jganoff: definitely sounds like we found a place to put my issues w/ "classloading" during ABD.
[19:51:05] <jganoff> johnament, yea... as sbryzak pointed out, the spec doesn't declare that the BeanManager is fully initialized during ABD since you can still regiter beans, observer methods, etc.
[19:52:03] <johnament> jganoff: sounds like bad news bears to be honest.
[19:52:14] <jganoff> johnament, yea... pretty terrible news
[19:53:02] <jganoff> johnament, I haven't been able to come up with a decent alternative yet - aside from the interface definitions since then you have all the information you need up front (what event type with which qualifiers to send/receive to/from what destination)
[19:53:37] <johnament> jganoff: does this imply that your reworking of routes doesn't work right 100%?
[19:53:59] <jganoff> johnament, definitely, in fact even @RouteConfig didn't work 100%.
[19:54:05] <jganoff> johnament, at least it wasn't portable.
[19:54:21] <jganoff> johnament, The tests pass due to the way Arquillian is loading the test class beans
[19:55:15] <johnament> jganoff: ahhh gotcha.
[19:55:23] <jganoff> johnament, had me fooled! :)
[19:55:49] <jganoff> johnament, question about your @Closeable
[19:56:00] <johnament> jganoff: i know then that the way i was attempting to listeners would never have worked, since it requires a mix of beans during ABD and at run time
[19:56:02] <johnament> sure
[19:56:30] <jganoff> johnament, yea, now that we know that a lot more makes sense ;)
[19:56:53] <jganoff> johnament, so, what's the purpose of @Closeable when we can receive @Dispose events for the objects we produce?
[19:57:51] <johnament> jganoff: you're assuming that Seam JMS creates all of the objects then.  if we add @Closeable then app developers can make whatever consumers/connections they want and then still let seam ARM them on shutdown.
[19:58:52] <jganoff> gotcha, sounds like a neat idea for another module imho. Since that could be applied to a lot of different resources. If a Closer impl was provided for each type..
[19:59:16] <johnament> jganoff: ideally, and maybe as a part of this, the producers should be updated to include disposers or fire events to the ARM to clean them up.
[20:00:02] <jganoff> johnament, definitely should update the produces to include disposers
[20:00:09] <jganoff> johnament, ConnectionProducer does it: https://github.com/jganoff/jms/blob/master/impl/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/jms/impl/inject/ConnectionProducer.java
[20:00:28] <johnament> jganoff: yes, it does.
[20:00:44] <jganoff> johnament, good point, we should handle disposing the resources we produce properly
[20:01:14] <jganoff> johnament, What was the use case for adding @Closeable?
[20:01:25] <jganoff> johnament, other than what you've said, did you have a specific issue you were trying to handle?
[20:02:01] <johnament> SEAMJMS-15
[20:02:02] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMJMS-15] Support automatic resource management for a few closeable types [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, John Ament] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMJMS-15
[20:03:09] <aslak> jganoff, i saw the mail etc, but never really understood what arq does differently in a remote server?
[20:03:31] <aslak> jganoff, we do non contextual injection, but that shouldn't effect the weld boostrap, which happens during deploy
[20:04:19] <jganoff> aslak, I'm not sure either tbh, but 100% of the time when running with Arq the beans can be looked up via BeanManager.getBeans(..) during ABD and 0% of the time when running in a standalone web app
[20:05:01] <aslak> jganoff, how dow you package in when not running via arq?
[20:05:02] <jganoff> johnament, I still don't see the reason for @Closeable when the developer can use their own producer/disposes if they need to. I'm afraid the purists would say there's already a mechanism to do what @Closeable does
[20:05:04] <aslak> in/it
[20:05:24] <jganoff> aslak, in a war with the impl in WEB-INF/lib/*.jar
[20:05:43] <aslak> jganoff, beans.xml in war?
[20:05:51] <johnament> jganoff: it removes the burden of creating the disposes method from app developer if they write a custom producer for one of the supported types.
[20:05:57] <jganoff> aslak, yep. the rest of the CDI code works
[20:06:12] <johnament> jganoff: in addition, here's the diff for including disposers for PubSub https://github.com/johnament/jms/commit/79b57019479c51d6a8212e7253411be761a7fab1
[20:06:13] <jbossbot> git [jms] 79b5701.. John Ament SEAMJMS-15 Added disposers for built in producers.
[20:06:14] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMJMS-15] Support automatic resource management for a few closeable types [Pull Request Sent (Unresolved) Feature Request, Major, John Ament] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMJMS-15
[20:06:22] <aslak> jganoff, how do you write the arq test, just the jar ?
[20:06:41] <jganoff> aslak, war since we need to deploy hornetq destinations alongside the test classes
[20:06:49] <aslak> aa.. hmm
[20:06:57] <jganoff> johnament, Good diff with the @Disposes
[20:07:22] <jganoff> johnament, I would suggest running the @Closesable past the dev list and see what others say
[20:07:49] <aslak> jganoff, and you see this issue during deploy right? you don't hvae to invoke it
[20:07:49] <johnament> jganoff: sure. do you have to subscribe to send to it?
[20:08:19] <jganoff> johnament, I'm not 100% sure but it would be a good idea for you to sub anyway - it's not an overly active list so don't expect a lot of spam
[20:08:43] <jganoff> aslak, correct, when the app is loaded and the CDI lifecycle events are being fired. This is during AfterBeanDiscovery
[20:10:23] <aslak> jganoff, yea, that is odd.. sounds like there could be some diff between deploying via ProfileService or not...  a quick check for that would be to swap to a managed container, that will use MainDeployer
[20:10:48] <jganoff> Works using jbossas-managed-6 profile still
[20:10:59] <aslak> hmm
[20:11:24] <jganoff> aslak, that's how the tests are run in JBoss's CI environment: http://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/view/Seam/job/Seam-3.X-jms-CI/
[20:11:32] <johnament> jganoff: disposers aren't linked to the producer's class, right?
[20:11:47] <jganoff> johnament, correct, they can be declared anywhere
[20:12:05] <johnament> jganoff: so then it sounds like this already adds the necessary ARM support, since I'm using @Any
[20:12:37] <jganoff> johnament, right, should handle it as you expect. A simple test could confirm.
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[20:19:55] <johnament> alright, i'll get that test case going later.  gotta go. cya.
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[20:22:16] <msmigielski> hi
[20:23:21] <msmigielski> I have just report issue with deployment of openid-op example.
[20:24:57] <msmigielski> There is problem with circular dependency between org.jboss.seam.security.external.openid.OpenIdRpAuthenticationService and org.jboss.seam.security.external.openid.OpenIdRpBean
[20:25:45] <msmigielski> I wonder if it is not something simple what I can fix by myself.
[20:26:15] <msmigielski> Any advice would be helpful.
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[22:53:23] <jbossbot> git [faces] push master b0a5804.. Brian Leathem SEAMFACES-84
[22:53:24] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFACES-84] seam-faces.taglib has an typo [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFACES-84
[22:53:24] <jbossbot> git [faces] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/faces/compare/0c227ef...b0a5804
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