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[01:59:45] <stuartdouglas> sbryzak: ping
[01:59:56] <sbryzak> stuartdouglas: pong
[02:00:25] <stuartdouglas> I just noticed that a lot of the solder functionality that should be part of the API is part of the impl
[02:00:47] <stuartdouglas> such as org.jboss.seam.solder.bean and org.jboss.seam.solder.reflection.annotatated
[02:00:56] <sbryzak> yeah I think dan was doing some refactoring, and hadn't moved some classes back yet
[02:01:03] <sbryzak> it's still a work in progress i believe
[02:01:21] <stuartdouglas> ok
[02:01:25] <johnament> cool
[02:01:33] <stuartdouglas> I don't no how much value the api impl split gives with solder
[02:01:52] <stuartdouglas> as probably 80% of the classes are api
[02:02:00] <sbryzak> i agree, i think with that module in particular it's a little irrelevant
[02:02:15] <stuartdouglas> and most of the remaining ones are needed by the api classes as support classes
[02:02:37] <sbryzak> i'll bring it up with dan
[02:02:44] <johnament> I think elements such as the producer methods make sense being impl only.
[02:02:58] <stuartdouglas> you mean @Unwraps?
[02:03:07] <stuartdouglas> The thing is, there are only a few classes like that
[02:03:19] <johnament> I was thinking along the lines of LogProducer.
[02:03:19] <stuartdouglas> and it is not like anyone can really use them by accident
[02:04:00] <johnament> I agree, there's only a few.
[02:05:35] <sbryzak> i think it's unlikely that anyone is going to provide their own implementation of any of the solder api anyway
[02:05:55] <sbryzak> it's pretty much all utility
[02:06:19] <johnament> unless that someone is very adventurous.
[02:06:26] <stuartdouglas> yes, think we should go back to just one jar, much simpler that way
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[06:40:01] <bdlink> Seam release 3.0.0.beta1.zip not downloading from sourceforge, has anyone noticed?
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[08:12:44] <amitev> bdlink: try a mirror
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[11:59:47] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master 36088b9.. Shane Bryzak use solder logging classes
[11:59:48] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master f5bafac.. Shane Bryzak Merge remote branch 'origin/master'...
[11:59:48] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/servlet/compare/0cf6df2...f5bafac
[12:11:34] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master 629035f.. Shane Bryzak typo
[12:11:34] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/servlet/compare/f5bafac...629035f
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[12:58:54] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push master 1317177.. Shane Bryzak switch to apache license, fix distribution
[12:58:55] <jbossbot> git [remoting] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/remoting/compare/b0310f0...1317177
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[15:43:51] <bdlink> There were no mirrors when I checked.  Will try again this morning.
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[15:47:25] <bdlink> Seam 3 beta 1 download still does not work, only mirror shown is Sourceforge inc chicago IL
[15:50:05] <marekn> bdlink: sourceforge.net was hacked and recovering the service is unstable
[15:50:28] <marekn> bdlink: they said to me that they fixed it sometime this week
[15:50:29] <lincolnthree> bdlink: I think we'd recommend using maven to download seam 3
[15:50:57] <jose_freitas> maven wins
[15:51:05] <bdlink> tx Marekn
[15:51:28] <lincolnthree> though repository.jboss.org seems slow at the moment
[15:51:30] <lincolnthree> https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/content/groups/public/org/jboss/seam/
[15:52:34] <bdlink> licolnthree: tx, I figured I could use it wih maven, but I just wanted to browse the source quickly.
[15:52:42] <lincolnthree> in that case,
[15:52:48] <lincolnthree> you could check out the modules on github!
[15:53:10] <marekn> bdlink: Shane uploaded distribution also to http://download.jboss.org/seam/3.0.0.Beta1/seam-3.0.0.Beta1.zip
[15:53:12] <lincolnthree> http://seamframework.org/Seam3/Contribute
[15:53:35] <marekn> bdlink: but lincolnthree is right all is on github
[15:53:40] <lincolnthree> If you look at the page i just linked, there are instructions to check out all sources of Seam 3 using checkout.sh
[15:54:09] <lincolnthree> should only take a few seconds if you are on unix :)
[15:54:18] <bdlink> Yes, I figured I could try git as well.  Thanks all.
[15:54:41] <lincolnthree> Np :) let us know how ti goes
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[16:07:59] <bdlink> OK, got it.  I notice there does not seem to be a top-level pom that builds all.  I built parent and dist.  Now building examples which pulls in many modules.
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[20:30:36] <jose_freitas> is anyone working with the international module?
[20:34:59] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: What's it say on the module page?
[20:35:45] <jose_freitas> that ken and lincolnthree are. but lincolnthree is with forge afaik
[20:36:04] <lightguard_jp> Ken and Dan I believe are working with it
[20:36:08] <jose_freitas> and I was hoping to find someone else
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[20:37:02] <jose_freitas> anyway, thank you =)
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[21:07:16] <lincolnthree> jose_freitas_afk: Ken and Dan are working on i18n, I'm no longer on it
[21:07:21] <lincolnthree> you are correct :)
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