January 27, 2011  
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[00:24:22] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: The seam parent pom has the wrong license in it
[00:24:43] <sbryzak> lightguard_jp: oops, it does?
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[00:25:27] <sbryzak> ah, lgpl
[00:25:35] <sbryzak> i'll fix it for the next release
[00:26:41] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Also getting this nice little nugget in my tests: org.jboss.arquillian.impl.event.FiredEventException: org.jboss.weld.exceptions.DeploymentException: WELD-001408 Unsatisfied dependencies for type [ELResolver] with qualifiers [@Any] at injection point [[field] @Any @Delegate @Inject private org.jboss.seam.exception.control.test.extension.DecoratorAsHandler.delegate
[00:27:46] <sbryzak> hmm, i'll be able to take a look at that in a short while
[00:32:11] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: I wonder if it's a problem with the arquillian-weld-ee-embedded-1.1
[00:32:16] <lightguard_jp> container
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[00:54:26] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master e546cab.. Shane Bryzak [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 3.0.0.Beta1
[00:54:26] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/servlet/compare/97a4af7...e546cab
[00:54:40] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master 6419dd8.. Shane Bryzak [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration
[00:54:40] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/servlet/compare/e546cab...6419dd8
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[05:20:32] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master b7903db.. LightGuard Fixing a broken test, adding repository to the pom
[05:20:33] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/catch/compare/0544836...b7903db
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[05:55:47] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: ping
[05:55:53] <sbryzak> pong
[05:56:30] <lightguard_jp> Would you be so kind as to push docs to the docs server and a Beta1 dist to sourceforge for me please?
[05:56:48] <sbryzak> sure thing, i'll have to do it later this evening though
[05:56:53] <sbryzak> is everything checked in?
[05:57:15] <lightguard_jp> Yeah, just check out the 3.0.0.Beta1 tag
[05:57:28] <sbryzak> will do
[05:57:29] <lightguard_jp> I've already done all the other release stuff
[05:57:39] <sbryzak> great, thanks for that :)
[05:57:47] <lightguard_jp> Yep
[05:57:59] <lightguard_jp> I hope we can get the solder stuff sorted out quickly
[05:58:07] <lightguard_jp> Did Siva ever get back to you?
[05:58:35] <sbryzak> yes, it's being discussed by e-mail tm
[05:58:37] <sbryzak> *atm
[05:59:33] <lightguard_jp> Does it look like we'll have it fixed before they release?
[05:59:52] <sbryzak> we're still confirming whether it's an issue or not
[06:00:02] <sbryzak> there seems to be some disagreement over the interpretation of the spec
[06:00:09] <lightguard_jp> Gah
[06:00:15] <sbryzak> we have a workaround anyway
[06:00:19] <lightguard_jp> Okay
[06:00:33] <lightguard_jp> Is Pete in the loop with the spec interp question?
[06:00:58] <sbryzak> yes
[06:02:43] <lightguard_jp> I hope we can clear things up enough at the spec level that this doesn't happen again
[06:03:43] <sbryzak> the confusion actually stems from the ee spec
[06:03:56] <lightguard_jp> Nice
[06:04:07] <lightguard_jp> What's our work around?
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[06:04:20] <lightguard_jp> Last I heard we didn't really have one
[06:04:26] <sbryzak> our workaround is to package any application beans within a jar file in the lib dir
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[06:10:53] <lightguard_jp> Ouch
[06:11:03] <lightguard_jp> So much for RAD in that case
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[06:18:31] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master 1f063f4.. LightGuard [maven-release-plugin] prepare release seam-catch-parent-3.0.0.Beta1
[06:18:31] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master bd38a16.. LightGuard [maven-release-plugin] prepare for next development iteration
[06:18:31] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master dcd004a.. Jozef Hartinger SEAMCATCH-30
[06:42:59] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master 00993c7.. LightGuard The API module doesn't have tests
[06:42:59] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master 5181787.. LightGuard Adding code coverage via emma maven plugin
[06:42:59] <jbossbot> git [catch] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/catch/compare/6ece4ed...5181787
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[10:51:20] <jharting> ping sbryzak
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[12:33:58] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master bdedaa5.. Shane Bryzak updated seam module versions
[12:33:58] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master cef6c5a.. Shane Bryzak Merge remote branch 'upstream/master'...
[12:33:58] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/dist/compare/ba47ac9...cef6c5a
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[16:23:54] <lincolnthree> hey sbryzak: I think that the Expressions class might be hosed in the latest Seam Solder
[16:24:05] <lincolnthree> After upgrading to weld 1.1.0.Final and Solder Beta2
[16:24:13] <lincolnthree> I can no longer inject Expressions
[16:24:25] <lincolnthree> Unsatisfied dependency error
[16:25:02] <lincolnthree> unless...
[16:25:08] <lincolnthree> I need to add the JAR to the ARQ deployment
[16:25:29] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree: I think that's the problem
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[16:28:01] <lincolnthree> Yep, that's the issue
[16:28:11] <lincolnthree> so the difference is now that the required classes are no longer added via an extension
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[16:28:20] <lightguard_jp> I was talking to Dan about this yesterday
[16:28:21] <lincolnthree> and that causes test failures because you need to add them manually now
[16:28:43] <lightguard_jp> He's surprised it worked at all because there never was anything for the producer to use :)
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[19:12:58] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master d1b8710.. Lincoln Baxter, III Merge branch 'master' of http://github.com/mikebrock/seam-forge
[19:12:58] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/2d89b4d...d1b8710
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[22:47:19] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: ping
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[22:50:27] <lightguard_jp> sbryzak: Do have an agenda for today to put up on http://seamframework.org/Seam3/ProjectMeetings
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[23:17:50] <kenfinnigan> sbryzak: Is there a team meeting today?
[23:18:11] <sbryzak> i believe so, dan should be hosting it
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[23:38:06] <mojavelinux> sorry guys, I lost track of time
[23:38:18] <lightguard_jp> agenda?
[23:38:27] <lightguard_jp> mojavelinux: Stop playing the snow / ice :P
[23:38:36] <mojavelinux> yeah, just give me a minute or two
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[23:40:03] <mojavelinux> Not too much today, but let's go with...
[23:40:58] <mojavelinux> 1. announcements
[23:40:58] <mojavelinux> 2. updates/questions
[23:41:01] <mojavelinux> keep it simple
[23:41:38] <mojavelinux> we had a very productive team meeting this morning (basically just Shane, Rodney and myself coordinating), which produced the following announcements
[23:41:48] <mojavelinux> first, a new roadmap for Seam 3 stack release
[23:41:50] <mojavelinux> 3.0.0.Beta1	28 January
[23:41:50] <mojavelinux> 3.0.0.Beta2	11 February
[23:41:50] <mojavelinux> 3.0.0.CR1	25 February
[23:42:11] <mojavelinux> those are much more firm dates than we've ever had before, because we have to stop blowing by dates :)
[23:42:43] <mojavelinux> I think the first date is probably more like "this weekend" :)
[23:42:50] <mojavelinux> or "by monday"
[23:43:46] <mojavelinux> we are making a strong recommendation to have 70% test coverage in modules as a minimum
[23:43:57] <mojavelinux> so we need to get emma setup in the modules so that # comes out of hudson
[23:44:08] <mojavelinux> we will find a way to publish it on the module project page like with the Hudson status
[23:44:57] <lightguard_jp> prize for best covered code?
[23:45:29] <mojavelinux> hell yes :)
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[23:46:04] <lightguard_jp> Sweet, I'd better finish
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[23:48:04] <mojavelinux> we'll offer "prizes" in a way that makes the most professional sense...we'll likely do announcements of the best modules in order of how well they are maintained, coded and tested. I'm getting that process organized.
[23:48:33] <lightguard_jp> Cool idea
[23:49:40] <mojavelinux> we are working on same badges for JBoss Community that apply across the board at JBoss
[23:49:42] <mojavelinux> projects
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[23:51:32] <mojavelinux> migration of the Weld project to JBoss Community has been approved and is underway
[23:51:41] <mojavelinux> likely it will take awhile to get the migration organized
[23:51:44] <mojavelinux> but it's happening, finally
[23:51:54] <mojavelinux> that will give Weld a strong identity and one separate from Seam
[23:52:01] <lightguard_jp> awesome news
[23:52:17] <mojavelinux> of course Solder Beta2 is released
[23:52:34] <mojavelinux> we do expect some quirks as we really had to shift things around to solve the GlassFish issue
[23:52:41] <mojavelinux> and, IMHO, to have a better defined API JAR
[23:53:43] <mojavelinux> finally, we are full steam ahead on switching to the ASL license
[23:54:25] <mojavelinux> if you have taken code from Seam 2 and put it in your module, make sure to check that it's covered
[23:54:38] <mojavelinux> but so far, I haven't seen any code come over from Seam 2 that wasn't written by someone working on Seam 3
[23:54:51] <stuartdouglas> Some of the persistence stuff was
[23:54:52] <mojavelinux> for instance, remoting is from Seam 2 mostly, but Shane wrote it...so he just had to check with himself :)
[23:54:55] <stuartdouglas> but havily modified
[23:55:15] <mojavelinux> persistence is covered because it was written primarily by Red Hat employees
[23:55:20] <stuartdouglas> heavily even
[23:55:42] <mojavelinux> I will double check the history on that one, though...that's the one worth spending time researching
[23:55:50] <mojavelinux> thanks
[23:57:26] <lightguard_jp> I believe the only thing we're missing is the SAF and some of the JSF components
[23:57:53] <mojavelinux> oh, yeah, we've got a client of seam persistence
[23:58:03] <mojavelinux> steven boscarine is working on integrating seam persistence into the maven archetypes
[23:58:22] <mojavelinux> and he's been bumping into some questions, so that's a good validation of how well it all works and is documented
[23:58:38] <stuartdouglas> ok, I am planning on doing some work on persistence this weekend
[23:58:43] <stuartdouglas> get a demo up and running
[23:58:48] <mojavelinux> I know some work is required there, and as I mentioned, it's critical to get that module right, because it's one of the centerpoints of the Seam legacy
[23:58:54] <stuartdouglas> I really wanted to do a seam chess demo using primefaces
[23:59:09] <stuartdouglas> but I don't know if I will have enough time
[23:59:12] <mojavelinux> cool! if you are interested, definitely involve steven...i'll put you in touch
[23:59:16] <mojavelinux> he is a QA ninja
[23:59:22] <mojavelinux> almost to an extreme
[23:59:24] <mojavelinux> :)

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