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[00:51:23] <aslak> lightguard_jp, ping
[00:51:48] <aslak> or anyone working on seam3 modules.. :)
[00:52:33] <lightguard_jp> aslak: Sorry, going to be leaving soon
[00:52:40] <aslak> do you mark a issue as resolved when you do a pull request?
[00:53:35] <aslak> lightguard_jp, ^
[00:54:23] <lightguard_jp> Dan has added some more work flow steps for Seam3 modules
[00:54:30] <lightguard_jp> There's a step for pull request sent
[00:54:39] <lightguard_jp> which any members can edit
[00:54:48] <aslak> aa ok
[00:54:52] <lightguard_jp> After the pull request has been sent, then you can mark it as resolved
[00:54:55] <aslak> oranheim, ^
[00:55:07] <lightguard_jp> But it's not there for all the modules yet
[00:55:13] <lightguard_jp> I think faces and catch have it
[00:55:17] <lightguard_jp> Not sure about the others though
[00:56:23] <aslak> SEAMWICKET has a workflow called: link pull request
[00:56:34] <lightguard_jp> Yep, that's it
[00:56:54] <aslak> cool, thanks
[00:57:01] <lightguard_jp> np
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[01:05:48] <oranheim> The pull request is done, thanks to Aslak !!
[01:05:52] <oranheim> Kudos to you!
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[01:06:19] <oranheim> I hope you guys like what's changed with the Seam Wicket module
[01:06:24] <aslak> :)
[01:06:28] <oranheim> Tests ar e now part of it!!
[01:07:11] <oranheim> A double pint of beer to Aslak for 2 hours of great support!
[01:07:29] <aslak> hehe
[01:07:51] <oranheim> :-)
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[01:14:08] <aslak> oki, bed time.. :)
[01:14:30] <oranheim> same here! :-)
[01:14:33] <aslak> oranheim, congrats on the first jboss contribution!
[01:14:46] <oranheim> thank you so much
[01:14:54] <oranheim> next, getting my scala example in place
[01:15:04] <aslak> oranheim, http://twitter.com/#!/oranheim ?
[01:15:19] <oranheim> then, i will participate on what's really concerning me: faces
[01:15:30] <oranheim> yes, but i'm not really active on twitter as you can see
[01:15:35] <aslak> hehe
[01:15:45] <oranheim> in opera software my nick was over
[01:15:49] <oranheim> over at opera dot com
[01:16:04] <oranheim> a hard nick to get around, so i'm using oranheim instead
[01:16:35] <oranheim> i'll make a better introduction of me self to the team later
[01:17:04] <aslak> http://twitter.com/#!/aslakknutsen/status/25344561807101952
[01:17:06] <aslak> ;)
[01:17:24] <oranheim> i've been part of w3c and it started here: http://www.w3.org/2004/10/MWIWS-papers/Opera_MWIWS_position-paper.html
[01:17:41] <oranheim> yeah! right!
[01:17:52] <oranheim> 0 = 0, must be (0)
[01:18:04] <oranheim> hehe
[01:18:31] <oranheim> +1 = i must comment
[01:18:43] <oranheim> cool
[01:18:47] <aslak> what?
[01:18:57] <oranheim> what what?
[01:19:18] <aslak> 0 = 0, must be (0) +1 =  ??
[01:20:12] <oranheim> means, i have never written a post, and i'm not very active on twitter
[01:20:39] <oranheim> since you posted the first post, i have to counter and write my first post on twitter
[01:21:30] <aslak> aa. :)
[01:23:11] <aslak> ok, bed time
[01:23:27] <oranheim> again, i'm most grateful aslak
[01:23:28] <oranheim> !
[01:23:36] <aslak> my pleasure..
[01:23:48] <oranheim> :)
[01:23:50] <oranheim> cool
[01:24:09] <aslak> sweet dreams!
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[08:48:00] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master 5f6c9aa.. Jozef Hartinger Ooops
[08:48:00] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master c5dce4a.. Jozef Hartinger Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/jharting/seam-rest
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[09:50:15] <jbossbot> git [rest] push master 7cdaede.. Jozef Hartinger fix typos in the docs
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[13:52:11] <jose_freitas> seam-javaee-booking example is almost ready to go.
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[15:27:05] <emmanuel> Hey Seam warriors, go check that out http://in.relation.to/18074.lace (method level validation). Who will be first to integrate it in Seam?
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[15:35:11] <lightguard_jp> emmanuel: Looks nice, good stuff.
[15:35:24] <lightguard_jp> Would be a great addition to the REST module
[15:36:10] <emmanuel> yep REST is another target
[15:37:59] <lightguard_jp> emmanuel: I'd like to use it in my module, but I'm not quite sure how to fit it into the scope of the module just yet
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[17:31:45] <mojavelinux> oranheim: welcome!
[17:32:27] <mojavelinux> glad to see another new "face"
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[17:38:11] <jose_freitas>  mojavelinux: I have the seam-javaee-booking almost completely working, there's just three things I have to workaround, one is that problem with messages we spoke a coupe days ago, another one is with injection of inputField in a validator (which is coming null), and the last one is with UIInputContainer, it's not accessing components outside of the container. But I'm pretty close now.
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[17:41:20] <mojavelinux> excellent! it sounds like there may be some bugs in Seam Faces then
[17:41:28] <mojavelinux> what would be fantastic is if we could get some tests for these
[17:41:44] <mojavelinux> testing JSF is tough since it means leaving unit testing and going to integration testing...but hopefully Arquillian makes that smooth
[17:41:47] <jose_freitas> I forked the seam-faces project
[17:41:51] <mojavelinux> good
[17:41:56] <jose_freitas> And I'm trying to track down the problem
[17:42:02] <jose_freitas> still without success
[17:43:53] <jose_freitas> I haven't the chance of experimenting with arquillian
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[17:56:52] <lightguard_jp> jose_freitas: mojavelinux: this is an update to the seam-javaee-booking with latest everything and catch?
[17:57:32] <jose_freitas> almost
[17:57:44] <jose_freitas> well, not everything
[17:57:56] <oranheim> thanks dan!
[17:57:59] <lightguard_jp> What's being updated?
[17:58:00] <jose_freitas> there's a list of features at the project
[17:58:28] <jose_freitas> I'm just updating the project so it could run smoothly
[17:58:45] <jose_freitas> for one who wants to get start with seam
[17:58:58] <jose_freitas> I can add some features if you want
[17:59:28] <jose_freitas> just tell me what would you like to see running on the example
[18:00:30] <mojavelinux> hey, we need catch in there, definitely!
[18:00:48] <lightguard_jp> Yes, catch needs to be there
[18:00:51] <mojavelinux> hehehe
[18:01:05] <lightguard_jp> If the jar isn't there it needs to be, then we need to get some handler in there
[18:01:12] <lightguard_jp> Not sure which though :)
[18:01:57] <mojavelinux> max you might be interested in seeing http://seamframework.org/Seam3/Tooling
[18:02:47] <jose_freitas> at seam bom (which I'm using as a parent) has catch on version 3.0.0.Alpha3
[18:02:49] <mojavelinux> if you don't know about the Hibernate Console, you should definitely check this out
[18:02:51] <mojavelinux> http://docs.jboss.org/tools/movies/demos/HQL_JPA-QL_queries/HQL_JPA-QL_queries.htm
[18:03:00] <mojavelinux> that's correct
[18:03:04] <jose_freitas> if you want to make it with another version, just change the bom
[18:03:09] <mojavelinux> are you using seam-parent 6?
[18:03:14] <mojavelinux> and seam-bom 3.0.0.b05?
[18:03:25] <jose_freitas> snapshot
[18:03:59] <mojavelinux> yep, you can switch to those released versions
[18:05:01] <jose_freitas> which one?
[18:06:04] <jose_freitas> seam-parent 6 and seam-bom b05?
[18:06:42] <mojavelinux> yep
[18:06:57] <jose_freitas> k
[18:07:38] <mojavelinux> btw, I can release seam-parent and seam-bom in about 10 minutes flat, so if something isn't right and you need it badly, just say the word
[18:07:48] <mojavelinux> automation :)
[18:08:24] <jose_freitas> thanks
[18:09:20] <lightguard_jp> mojavelinux: You should write a script to do it then
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[18:09:38] <jose_freitas> hehehe
[18:12:14] <mojavelinux> yes, we desperately need a script for releasing modules
[18:12:28] <mojavelinux> the steps are very detailed on the module release page, but still all manual
[18:12:36] <mojavelinux> aside from what the Maven release plugin does (or does not) do
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[19:44:39] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master 64f8c61.. Dan Allen upgrade to seam-parent 6 and seam-bom 3.0.0.b05
[19:44:39] <jbossbot> git [servlet] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/servlet/compare/3c9d96e...64f8c61
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[20:26:35] <jose_freitas> lightguard_jp, mojavelinux: Is there any major bug that I should now (to avoid it)?
[20:26:51] <jose_freitas> in catch
[20:26:52] <lightguard_jp> Not sure on Faces
[20:26:59] <lightguard_jp> In catch, no, none that I know of
[20:27:12] <jose_freitas> ncie
[20:27:14] <jose_freitas> nice
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[20:41:06] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master fe8333f.. Dan Allen SOLDER-60 go full in on the camelcase package
[20:41:07] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-60] servicehandler package should be serviceHandler for consistency [Closed, Major, Dan Allen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-60
[20:41:07] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master f945749.. Dan Allen Merge branch 'master' of github.com:seam/solder
[20:41:07] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/c553798...f945749
[20:41:54] <mojavelinux> jeez of flip what the heck is going on with solder
[20:42:06] <lincolnthree> ?
[20:42:20] <mojavelinux> I let idea to a pull and it made a mess of things it seems
[20:42:21] <mojavelinux> hmmm
[20:42:29] <mojavelinux> I think we have like pending merges or something
[20:43:50] <lightguard_jp> Odd
[20:47:04] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/f945749...ec24315
[20:49:29] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master 6aea4fd.. Dan Allen SOLDER-44 make use of accessible flag control
[20:49:29] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-44] InjectableMethod should make method accessible before invoking [Closed, Major, Dan Allen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-44
[20:49:30] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/ec24315...6aea4fd
[20:50:06] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master 36ee439.. Dan Allen SOLDER-52 additional annotation inspection support
[20:50:07] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-52] Add methods to AnnotationInspector that operate on Annotated (from CDI) [Resolved, Major, Dan Allen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-52
[20:50:07] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/6aea4fd...36ee439
[20:50:54] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master b0b44b5.. Shane Bryzak add constructor check to avoid NPE
[20:50:54] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/36ee439...b0b44b5
[20:52:37] <mojavelinux> had to do some commit surgery
[20:52:42] <mojavelinux> now solder is back in black :)
[21:15:07] <jbossbot> git [build] push master 8f2ef2d.. Dan Allen add code formatting for IntelliJ
[21:15:07] <jbossbot> git [build] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/build/compare/e37a623...8f2ef2d
[21:15:24] <mojavelinux> thanks to Jason for creating that
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[21:21:11] <lightguard_jp> mojavelinux: Sure
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[22:03:57] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master c169986.. Dan Allen fix missing scope, add additional deps...
[22:03:58] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/dist/compare/d50d3a7...c169986
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[22:09:08] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master 8dadc46.. Dan Allen fix jboss-logging-tools version property
[22:09:08] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/parent/compare/5a14356...8dadc46
[22:10:47] <mojavelinux> community meeting in one hour
[22:10:51] <mojavelinux> get your snacks
[22:10:52] <mojavelinux> :)
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[22:26:52] <lincolnthree> mojavelinux: i had a call-in appt at physical therapy, sorry, will catch up later gotta go to the appt at 5
[22:27:07] <lincolnthree> if you could add a plug for folks to try forge, that would be great :)
[22:27:31] <lincolnthree> http://bit.ly/angrykitten
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[23:06:16] * lightguard_jp sits down. Waves hand, "Hi everyone"
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[23:07:21] <mojavelinux> holler
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[23:07:42] <stuartdouglas> morning all
[23:07:46] <mojavelinux> I need a few extra minutes for my hands to defrost
[23:10:31] <mojavelinux> okay, I think I can type now :)
[23:10:41] <mojavelinux> welcome to the new time
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[23:11:17] <mojavelinux> I want to start by doing something I realized last week I should do before beginning to yammer on
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[23:12:08] <mojavelinux> if you actually here, could you just say "here" so that I know who I can ask questions to
[23:12:14] <mojavelinux> I know stuart and jason are here here
[23:12:16] <jganoff> here
[23:12:22] <lightguard_jp> :)
[23:12:27] <jharting> here
[23:12:31] <jganoff> have to leave at 5:20 but I didn't want to miss it
[23:12:35] <jganoff> (all of it)
[23:12:38] <mojavelinux> hehee
[23:12:48] <mojavelinux> we'll start with you then :)
[23:13:10] <mojavelinux> keep saying here in async while I start
[23:13:59] <mojavelinux> so first, as you know stuart is now working on AS for JBoss (yeah!), but will continue to lead solder from a technical standpoint, time permitting
[23:14:08] <jganoff> wooo!
[23:14:16] <mojavelinux> shane and I will handle all the crufty stuff like releases
[23:14:45] <mojavelinux> we have two newcomers this week, jose_freitas who has been working to get the booking example functioning again
[23:15:36] <mojavelinux> and Ove Ranheim who has sent in some wicket patches and will be pushing us to get features done so he can use them in his app ;)
[23:16:04] <mojavelinux> and Brian Leathem has been working on a guide to get started development/contributing...because what we have now is sort of a mess
[23:16:18] <mojavelinux> so all hail the newcomers ;)
[23:16:25] <jganoff> hail!
[23:16:32] <jganoff> Welcome to the team! :)
[23:16:49] <mojavelinux> as I mentioned to them, it's a great time to get started now because there is lots of activity
[23:17:01] <mojavelinux> pete royle told me yesterday he is coming back to work on Seam scheduling
[23:17:08] <mojavelinux> so that's going to get a module page and all
[23:17:20] <mojavelinux> Jordan that will compliment jms nicely
[23:17:29] <mojavelinux> because it will likely handle the async events that don't use jms
[23:17:37] <mojavelinux> but be parallel
[23:17:39] <jganoff> oh that's great news :)
[23:17:40] <mojavelinux> I'm guessing
[23:18:16] <lightguard_jp> :)
[23:18:30] <mojavelinux> I'm going to try to push out a release of JMS tomorrow just to get it up to speed with solder now that the build is working again
[23:18:55] <mojavelinux> but after that, I'd like to move that module back into the fast lane and get some development on it
[23:19:12] <mojavelinux> I know lightguard_jp and john ament have expressed interest in helping out
[23:19:15] <jganoff> Thanks for releasing that
[23:19:23] <jganoff> Great, we could use all the help we can get.
[23:19:42] <lightguard_jp> I need to get a beta out for catch before I can really do much on jms
[23:19:43] <jganoff> Hopefully everything is described well enough in the open JIRAs that anyone can pick one up and run with it.
[23:19:45] <mojavelinux> I happen to think jms is another one of those really critical modules from a usability standpoint, because without it, jms is very scary to newcomers
[23:20:02] <mojavelinux> exactly, so that brings up a good point actually
[23:20:33] <mojavelinux> if you are short on time, or you aren't exactly sure which code to write, explaining what you want to write on the design page, or in JIRA modules...enables other people to actually help you out
[23:20:51] <mojavelinux> it's painful to sit down and write out a design, but it pays you back a ton
[23:21:02] <mojavelinux> plus, it helps shane and I figure out where we are on a module even before the code is there
[23:21:58] <mojavelinux> and we all love help :)
[23:22:44] <mojavelinux> speaking of help, I'd like to mention an initiative I'm starting to help everyone get more recognition and exposure for the code you are writing
[23:22:44] <jganoff> Any specific questions for me before I have to take off?
[23:23:22] <mojavelinux> ah, I would say if there is any CDI spec change you needed to get JMS working, make sure Pete knows about it because he's being doing a call for CDI spec changes
[23:23:44] <mojavelinux> and I know you had possibility hit a wall somewhere
[23:24:02] <jganoff> I saw that
[23:24:05] <mojavelinux> great
[23:24:10] <lightguard_jp> mojavelinux: Does pete know about the things we've been talking about with enhancing observers and event objects?
[23:24:15] <jganoff> Yea, I had - i need to review and make sure that what I proposed a while back actually made it in
[23:24:22] <lightguard_jp> Specifically about ordering and access to meta data
[23:24:25] <mojavelinux> we hit a similar thing in catch
[23:25:23] <jganoff> Ok great, catch you guys later!  ;)
[23:25:29] <jganoff> You know where to find me.
[23:25:30] <lightguard_jp> jganoff: Later
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[23:25:45] <mojavelinux> okay, seam snippets initiative
[23:25:59] <mojavelinux> so basically, I would like to start something like http://liberiangeek.net
[23:26:14] <mojavelinux> in a world where everyone has about a 2 second attention span
[23:26:28] <mojavelinux> we need 2 second "feature previews" for Seam 3
[23:26:38] <mojavelinux> we have lots of code and features already and basically, no one knows it
[23:26:46] <mojavelinux> you can say "review my module" and no one has time
[23:26:48] <mojavelinux> but
[23:27:00] <mojavelinux> you can say, look at how you do this one thing and voila, you get feedback
[23:27:22] <mojavelinux> plus, you get to reuse all that effort you put into the reference guide
[23:27:37] <mojavelinux> which I think people use more as an indepth resource than a first time intro
[23:27:56] <mojavelinux> so what I'm asking is, think of what tips you want to highlight
[23:28:03] <mojavelinux> for instance, we could do a whole tip on @Veto
[23:28:13] <mojavelinux> or a while tip on validating a REST parameter
[23:28:22] <mojavelinux> or catching an exception in a servlet
[23:28:32] <mojavelinux> simple, simple stuff...though some could be more involved
[23:28:42] <mojavelinux> I'm going to be setting up the place where we centrally host them
[23:29:10] <mojavelinux> and I'd like to do at least one a week, and then we can encourage seam users to contribute tips as well...and the news just rolls out
[23:29:20] <mojavelinux> then, we don't have to write novel-size blog entries when we release a module
[23:29:29] <mojavelinux> because that wouldn't be the only time you ever get to say anything about your module :)
[23:29:36] <lightguard_jp> mojavelinux: Will those be broadcast on twitter too?
[23:29:43] <lightguard_jp> from @jbossseam ?
[23:29:47] <mojavelinux> we will broadcast the heck out of them :) yep
[23:29:54] <lightguard_jp> Sweet
[23:30:04] <mojavelinux> and, people will see your name in headlights, so it's good exposure for you as well
[23:30:34] <mojavelinux> two more announcement-y things
[23:30:55] <mojavelinux> first, thanks to lightguard_jp glassfish has been (hopefully) fixed so that Seam will work on it
[23:31:11] <mojavelinux> that solves the immediate problem, and allows us to release solder beta 2
[23:31:22] <mojavelinux> however, what we realized in a meeting this morning is that this is really a CDI spec problem
[23:31:24] <mojavelinux> and the EG should be involved
[23:31:31] <lightguard_jp> mojavelinux: Did we verify that with the test?
[23:31:44] <mojavelinux> and if there is a misunderstanding about the spec, we shouldn't have to be taking on this burden of trying to get everyone to fix it
[23:31:45] <stuartdouglas> what is the problem with GF?
[23:32:00] <mojavelinux> in short, extensions in a non-bean archive were not loaded
[23:32:10] <mojavelinux> or I should say, glassfish would not look for extensions unless they were in a bean archive
[23:32:13] <mojavelinux> breaking solder
[23:32:53] <mojavelinux> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-47
[23:32:54] <stuartdouglas> ah, I did not realsize that still had not been fixed
[23:32:55] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-47] Cannot use Solder in Glassfish 3.1 [Open, Blocker, Shane Bryzak] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-47
[23:33:08] <mojavelinux> yeah, thanks to jason he really kept pushing on this one
[23:33:13] <mojavelinux> by giving them an actual example
[23:33:24] <mojavelinux> we still need to submit the arquillian test...I Have it, just haven't committed it yet
[23:33:54] <mojavelinux> the commit to glassfish says it all
[23:34:02] <mojavelinux> but guess what
[23:34:05] <mojavelinux> same problem in resin
[23:34:24] <mojavelinux> so clearly there is a vagueness in the spec or something
[23:34:31] <stuartdouglas> maybe we should just add beans.xml?
[23:34:35] <mojavelinux> gotta see what scott fergenson says
[23:34:42] <stuartdouglas> there is not that many classes in solder
[23:34:59] <stuartdouglas> and given how much faster weld starts now I don't think it will be to big a problem
[23:35:11] <mojavelinux> that's a great point, this was really a premature optimization
[23:35:39] <mojavelinux> reverting might be the easiest path, though still this needs to be addressed at the spec level just so that the story is straight on the matter
[23:35:58] <mojavelinux> actually, I was also thinking
[23:36:09] <mojavelinux> i'd like to release a version of solder w/o the services file
[23:36:20] <stuartdouglas> if the number of classes present in solder causes problems, then we are in trouble :-)
[23:36:27] <mojavelinux> hahaha
[23:36:33] <mojavelinux> we just might have to do some vetoing
[23:36:37] <mojavelinux> but that's easy enough to test
[23:37:10] <mojavelinux> because I can see solder being useful as a utility library without the extensions, and the extensions in there get loaded even if you don't want them
[23:37:16] <mojavelinux> you also might want to hand pick which extensions to load
[23:37:25] <mojavelinux> and I think having something like seam-solder-noauto
[23:37:32] <mojavelinux> makes sense, just a packaging thing
[23:38:03] <mojavelinux> last announcement thing, then opening the floor for some discussions
[23:38:15] <mojavelinux> timeline for Seam stack release final is JBoss World
[23:38:21] <mojavelinux> so beta ~ March
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[23:38:35] <mojavelinux> just so everyone is aware of the rough schedule...and that release at JBoss World is a must hit
[23:38:57] <mojavelinux> because we've shown up empty handed twice, can't make it three
[23:42:05] <mojavelinux> does anyone have a topic they would like to bring forward?
[23:42:34] <lightguard_jp> Nothing here
[23:42:36] <clerum> I need someone to review the mail api before I got further into docs
[23:43:21] <sbryzak> mojavelinux: beta is Jan 21, CR1 is March ;)
[23:43:34] <mojavelinux> oops, thanks shane
[23:44:15] <mojavelinux> that's right, review of mail, I do have you on my list...although I intend on doing some review myself, shane would you like to review mail a bit
[23:44:20] <mojavelinux> so you are familiar with what it's about?
[23:44:30] <lightguard_jp> Shoot, I need to get a beta out then
[23:44:34] <lightguard_jp> Next week
[23:44:38] <mojavelinux> btw, I've added mail to the included modules in the stack release
[23:44:58] <mojavelinux> because I don't know about anyone else, but sending a real mail message w/ the Java API is pretty much a pipedream
[23:45:05] <mojavelinux> and how we deliever without that I just don't know
[23:45:36] <sbryzak> sorry, am still half asleep.. yep i can review the mail module
[23:45:37] <mojavelinux> not to mention cody is on top of that module
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[23:46:12] <mojavelinux> we are looking for whether the API is aligning well with our grand vision (assuming there is such a thing) and that it is leveraging CDI sufficiently
[23:46:17] <clerum> first module I've written, so don't hold back. I won't be offended
[23:46:25] <mojavelinux> I"d ask stuart as well, but I know you are probably massively overloaded as it is
[23:46:37] <mojavelinux> he asked for it!
[23:46:38] <mojavelinux> hahaha
[23:47:15] <stuartdouglas> I will try and have a look this weekend
[23:47:39] <mojavelinux> thanks stuart
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[23:47:54] <clerum> https://github.com/seam/mail is up to date
[23:48:07] <mojavelinux> cody do you have any tests yet? (I'm pretty sure you do)
[23:48:17] <mojavelinux> if so, we need to make sure they run in the CI build
[23:48:23] <clerum> yes
[23:48:27] <mojavelinux> did you see the jira for that (or did I not create it yet)
[23:48:43] <clerum> didn't see one but may have missed it
[23:48:56] <mojavelinux> that was in a dream or something
[23:49:09] <mojavelinux> okay, I'll make one, cause I have a template I copy paste from :)
[23:50:22] <mojavelinux> btw, I updated all the Seam JIRA projects to use the workflow that I created to support pull requests
[23:50:29] <mojavelinux> and also, a logical set of task types
[23:50:38] <mojavelinux> since before it was like crap I didn't even know what the heck half the stuff was
[23:50:52] <mojavelinux> now it's like bug, enhancement, feature request, task and library upgrade
[23:50:56] <mojavelinux> i.e., english
[23:51:07] <clerum> any update on jira -> git integration?
[23:51:44] <mojavelinux> well, for now you can enter in the pull request URL
[23:51:58] <mojavelinux> that's the extent of what I put in place, though jboss is actively looking at a more integrated experience
[23:52:00] <clerum> via fisheye
[23:52:11] <mojavelinux> yes, there is fisheye integration, it just needs to be wired up
[23:53:49] <mojavelinux> SEAMMAIL-9
[23:53:50] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMMAIL-9] Setup Hudson job for Seam Mail [Open, Major, Martin Gencur] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMMAIL-9
[23:54:52] <mojavelinux> I haven't quite worked out when the best time for office hours will be, but I'm thinking that one time that makes a lot of sense is right after the community meeting
[23:55:37] <mojavelinux> the idea is that it's a time when contributors can expect to bring questions about working on a module and not just get crickets as a response
[23:56:07] <mojavelinux> so let's start there, maybe 1 - 2 hours to start, we'll see how it goes
[23:57:19] <clerum> sounds good
[23:59:33] <mojavelinux> on that note, we'll call that a wrap





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