[00:00:13] <maxandersen> a "cheap" trick could be to have a "Check bean for CDI compliance" based purely on it being a class in a CDI project...?
[00:01:28] <maxandersen> but it feels a bit too "different"..
[00:01:54] <lincolnthree> maxandersen: you do all of this with JDT yes?
[00:02:18] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: which part ?
[00:02:27] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: the validations ?
[00:02:30] <lincolnthree> yes
[00:02:46] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: JDT's model is used but we need to build our own model "on-the-side"
[00:03:01] <maxandersen> thus it uses a lot more in the end.
[00:03:12] <lincolnthree> got it
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[00:22:19] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: so i was looking at seam-forge as you probably noticed last night ? :)
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[00:26:03] <lincolnthree> maxandersen: yes :) thanks for all the fixes
[00:26:18] <lincolnthree> command completion +++
[00:26:30] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: safe guards +++ :)
[00:26:50] <lincolnthree> yeah command completion as it is now has been the same for about 3 months
[00:26:52] <lincolnthree> so it was bad :)
[00:26:58] <lincolnthree> worked on it a little today
[00:27:06] <lincolnthree> trying to create a new pattern to make things simpler / more reliable
[00:27:25] <maxandersen> found another bug in how the path completion works - it blows up (hard) when you try to complete a path with / in it when on a file resource...
[00:28:06] <maxandersen> all just discuvered when I tried to figure out how i.e. "install" is supposed to provide completion for list of the facets it can install?and realized that is actually tricky
[00:28:35] <lincolnthree> yeah? quite nasty
[00:28:37] <maxandersen> since it would have to be some dynamic list and then JBT actually would have a  hard time processing that unless it is calling forge directly
[00:29:20] <lincolnthree> well
[00:29:24] <lincolnthree> you can always make use of indirect commands
[00:29:28] <lincolnthree> so you could run
[00:29:36] <lincolnthree> "list-facets" prior to your completion
[00:30:26] <lincolnthree> but yeah, that could be an issue
[00:30:32] <maxandersen> not sure I follow you ? you mean as user or as part of the completion ?
[00:30:34] <lincolnthree> it's possible forge could publish its command completion cnadidates
[00:30:42] <lincolnthree> as part of the integration with JBT
[00:30:48] <lincolnthree> i dont see a reason we couldn't do that
[00:32:40] <maxandersen> yes if we do it out of process there would have to be some "protocol" for such...
[00:33:10] <maxandersen> anyhow I was wondering (ignoring JBT's needs) if PromptType shouldn't be contextual ?
[00:33:15] <lincolnthree> another MQ
[00:33:17] <maxandersen> or "dynamic" ?
[00:33:20] <maxandersen> MQ?
[00:33:25] <lincolnthree> message queue
[00:33:34] <lincolnthree> contextual promptType? not sure I follow
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[00:34:52] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: I mean for example for "install" the prompttype for facet name is just STRING
[00:35:24] <maxandersen> which is basically the domain but there is not possible values...
[00:35:24] <lincolnthree> ok go on
[00:35:27] <lincolnthree> oh
[00:35:37] <lincolnthree> sure because facets are just names
[00:35:40] <lincolnthree> you have to resolve them
[00:36:14] <maxandersen> and just wondering if that shouldn't be something like a @Current CompletionProposals getProposals(String prompt) on Commands ?
[00:36:47] <maxandersen> a producer method for possible completion values.
[00:37:03] <lincolnthree> Hmmm..
[00:37:07] <lincolnthree> interesting idea
[00:37:15] <maxandersen> would be evaluated on each "tab"
[00:37:35] <maxandersen> or rather on each complete based on the current command line...
[00:38:17] <lincolnthree> I think that's possible actually
[00:38:26] <lincolnthree> i don't see why not
[00:38:29] <lincolnthree> want to make an issue for it?
[00:38:31] <lincolnthree> im cooking :)
[00:38:33] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master d903c81.. Dan Allen SOLDER-53 revert println statements
[00:38:35] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-53] Seam Solder incontainer tests fail [Closed, Major, Dan Allen] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-53
[00:38:35] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/587a78a...d903c81
[00:38:37] <maxandersen> note, these are separate from the PromptType which just sets the Type not the relevant domain?
[00:38:50] <lincolnthree> well.. sometimes you don't want failure
[00:38:55] <lincolnthree> oops
[00:38:58] <lincolnthree> wrong paste
[00:38:59] <lincolnthree> lo
[00:39:02] <lincolnthree> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE
[00:39:03] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: :)
[00:39:10] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: ill try write it up
[00:39:43] <maxandersen> btw. do you know why my github forge branch says I contributed to forge master but forget master says I just forked not contirbuted ?
[00:41:16] <lincolnthree> I've got no idea :( it's weird with my fork too
[00:41:57] <lincolnthree> oh
[00:42:04] <lincolnthree> well i did your last merge manually
[00:42:07] <lincolnthree> but before that no ides
[00:42:08] <lincolnthree> a
[00:43:13] <maxandersen> and I only get mail from github from a pullrequest being accepted from pete muir - yours were just comments...
[00:43:31] <lincolnthree> yeah? because pete wrote the git email notiication :-p
[00:44:05] <maxandersen> lincolnthree:
[00:44:09] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-14
[00:44:10] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMFORGE-14] Contextual injection of Completion Proposals [Open, Major, Lincoln Baxter III] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMFORGE-14
[00:44:15] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: oh ;)
[00:44:23] <lincolnthree> thanks max!
[00:44:54] <lincolnthree> I'll have to think about how to maybe get that to work
[00:45:30] <lincolnthree> the candidates won't be available to the command itself
[00:45:41] <maxandersen> eh ?
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[00:46:03] <maxandersen> wouldn't that be the norm ( that it would know the candidates ) ?
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[00:46:05] <lincolnthree> why would you need them in the command?
[00:46:17] <lincolnthree> the command should produce them somehow
[00:46:19] <lincolnthree> the plugin
[00:46:23] <lincolnthree> command
[00:46:24] <lincolnthree> option
[00:46:25] <lincolnthree> etc
[00:46:58] <maxandersen> yes - I would expect there would be default "completion proposals" out there but the command would be able to somehow contextual limit them
[00:47:02] <maxandersen> i.e. take File completion
[00:47:52] <maxandersen> a command that would need a file could say type is PromptType FILE and default it would just do it on all files in pwd
[00:47:52] <lincolnthree> well look what I did with "install **"
[00:48:16] <maxandersen> but shuold also be able to just list lets say only *.java files and dirs.
[00:48:22] <maxandersen> "install **" ?
[00:48:36] <lincolnthree> install facet
[00:48:51] <lincolnthree> well yeah the PromptType is a problem
[00:48:56] <lincolnthree> because you can't extend enums
[00:49:01] <lincolnthree> But you can annotate them
[00:49:04] <lincolnthree> so maybe that's an option
[00:49:17] <lincolnthree> you cant annotate them in that context though
[00:49:18] <lincolnthree> arg
[00:49:20] <lincolnthree> it's complicated
[00:49:23] <lincolnthree> gotta eat
[00:49:26] <lincolnthree> back in a bit
[00:49:31] <lincolnthree> folks are over
[00:50:08] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: ok
[00:50:11] <maxandersen> have fun
[00:50:19] <lincolnthree> sorry! thanks :)
[00:50:24] <maxandersen> mojavelinux: time to answer a git noob question ?
[00:50:34] <maxandersen> (now that lincolnthree doesn't want to play with me anymore)
[00:50:41] <lincolnthree> hehe aww
[00:51:26] <maxandersen> my question is about "pull-request" best practices
[00:51:49] <maxandersen> should I be creating branches for *every* suggested patch I got or just keep working on one branch ?
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[00:56:38] <lincolnthree> maxandersen: i personally don't care as long as what I pull isn't broken :)
[00:56:41] <lincolnthree> if you think it'll be broken
[00:56:42] <lincolnthree> create a branch
[00:56:55] <lincolnthree> otherwise if it's broken I'll ping you and complain
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[00:58:38] <maxandersen> lincolnthree: just wondering how to do similar to what I did yesterday best?.i.e. small fixes...
[01:00:20] <lincolnthree> yeah, small independent fixes -> branches
[01:01:13] <maxandersen> k
[01:01:20] <maxandersen> will have to learn some more git then ;)
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[01:06:34] <mojavelinux> yes, i think you created branches for any change...unless you are admin
[01:06:45] <mojavelinux> and you are tweaking the project
[01:06:52] <mojavelinux> then pull requests are just annoying and no real benefit
[01:07:05] <mojavelinux> since the merge is your own pull and you don't debate w/ yourself :)
[01:07:32] <mojavelinux> but if done right, all pull requests should show as crediting both the contributor and merger
[01:07:34] <mojavelinux> here's an example
[01:07:55] <mojavelinux> https://github.com/seam/solder/commit/a24bf66c97bc7f30e814894cfecee5465c6a24ff
[01:07:57] <jbossbot> git [solder] a24bf66.. Stuart Douglas SOLDER 7, SOLDER-27...
[01:07:57] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-27] Allow generic beans to be configured via any class type not just annotations [Closed, Major, Stuart Douglas] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-27
[01:07:58] <mojavelinux> it's tricky though
[01:08:09] <mojavelinux> it requires some git magic...using interactive rebasing
[01:08:24] <mojavelinux> and it seems to only work if there is more than one commit in the pull request
[01:08:29] <mojavelinux> otherwise, it just credits the merger
[01:09:40] <maxandersen> k
[01:12:23] <mojavelinux> so I'm still trying to sort it out myself
[01:12:31] <mojavelinux> interactive rebasing squashes multiple commits into one
[01:12:38] <mojavelinux> so in that case, the reference to the original commit stays
[01:13:11] <mojavelinux> we've avoid using the merge feature (as github suggests) because it shows the commit as a merge of an external fork
[01:13:13] <mojavelinux> which may disappear
[01:13:22] <mojavelinux> then you can't track the change...and the commit messsage is over there
[01:13:33] <mojavelinux> it's kind of not ideal...and it's something I need to understand better
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[01:13:52] <mojavelinux> rebased replays commits onto the branch you are on
[01:13:59] <mojavelinux> the downside is that it seems to lose the original author
[01:14:11] <mojavelinux> maybe it's there and just not showing in github
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[01:15:15] <mojavelinux> actually, I may be wrong about not crediting
[01:15:15] <mojavelinux> https://github.com/seam/solder/commit/57c5c5c55ab4c0e4b16ae1defdd088ce9a360207
[01:15:17] <jbossbot> git [solder] 57c5c5c.. Stuart Douglas WELDX-174 Allow generic beans to be configured via managed beans
[01:15:17] <jbossbot> jira [WELDX-174] Redirected to: https://issues.jboss.org/si/jira.issueviews:issue-xml/SOLDER-36/SOLDER-36.xml
[01:15:18] <jbossbot> jira [SOLDER-36] Allow generic beans to be configured via managed beans [Closed, Major, Stuart Douglas] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SOLDER-36
[01:15:25] <mojavelinux> this shows one commit and a credit to stuart
[01:20:22] <maxandersen> yeah
[01:22:12] <maxandersen> mojavelinux: so what is the diff between your example and https://github.com/seam/forge/commit/3f96729cf471e8707a7c7649af56ecb438dd0762 ? (this was just me doing pull request and lincolnthree approve it)
[01:22:13] <jbossbot> git [forge] 3f96729.. Max Rydahl Andersen fixed NPE when using basic completion (such as the one use for 'install' for facet name)
[01:25:28] <maxandersen> gotta sleep see you tomorrw
[01:30:48] <lincolnthree> night max
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[02:58:44] <jbossbot> git [config] push master 1721af8.. Stuart Douglas Move to solder 3.0.0.Beta1
[02:58:44] <jbossbot> git [config] push master 878b0d9.. Stuart Douglas Fix property access
[02:58:44] <jbossbot> git [config] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/config/compare/2f3b8de...878b0d9
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[03:28:45] <jbossbot> git [international] push master fefe13d.. Ken Finnigan SEAMINTL-17  Change Qualifiers for defining default locale and timezone....
[03:28:47] <jbossbot> jira [SEAMINTL-17] Simplify default config qualifier names for locale and time zone [Open, Major, Ken Finnigan] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/SEAMINTL-17
[03:28:47] <jbossbot> git [international] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/international/compare/4e77561...fefe13d
[04:08:52] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push master 0bc3994.. Stuart Douglas Upgrade to seam solder 3.0.0.Beta1
[04:08:53] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/0cf7b94...0bc3994
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[06:08:51] <mojavelinux> this problem is the bane of my existence right now
[06:08:51] <mojavelinux> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: javax.enterprise.event.Observes.notifyObserver()Ljavax/enterprise/event/Reception;
[06:08:53] <mojavelinux> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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[09:08:14] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master 7d32693.. Dan Allen [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 5
[09:08:15] <jbossbot> git [parent] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/parent/compare/a9d9714...7d32693
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[09:12:03] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/dist/compare/f29e88a...9a6b4e6
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[09:12:04] <jbossbot> git [dist] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/dist/compare/9a6b4e6...e5be1de
[09:17:35] <mojavelinux> seam parent 5 and seam bom 3.0.0.b04 are now available
[09:17:45] <mojavelinux> please use these for the next release, if possible
[09:18:06] <mojavelinux> if you have to downgrade to cdi-api 1.0-SP2 and Weld 1.1.0.Beta2, that's fine
[09:18:43] <mojavelinux> I'll be proposing a new policy/convention to use the JBoss Java EE API groupId and artifactIds whenever you need an API dependency
[09:19:40] <mojavelinux> you can find those in the org.jboss.spec:jboss-javaee-6.0 pom
[09:22:31] <Nik> mojavelinux: nice. now go to sleep ;-) What's the local time over there?
[09:22:45] <lightguard_jp> 3:00 AM ish for him
[09:22:45] <mojavelinux> oh geez, don't ask
[09:22:51] <mojavelinux> it's 5'oclock somewhere
[09:22:56] <lightguard_jp> haha
[09:31:04] <jbossbot> git [config] push master 2844d17.. Dan Allen update seam parent and bom...
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[09:33:11] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push master 1b6aa55.. Dan Allen update seam parent and bom...
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[09:34:29] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push master de64e8b.. Dan Allen ignore transaction.log
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[09:34:29] <jbossbot> git [persistence] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/persistence/compare/1b6aa55...ab21ba3
[09:34:45] <mojavelinux> okay, config and persistence inline and ready for a release
[09:39:55] <mojavelinux> I'm off to bed. happy refactoring :)
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[16:17:51] <clerum> so on mail it looks like I'm still pulling in weldx via xml alpha3 which is causing my tests to fail....so I'm going to need to wait on that before I can finish right?
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[17:18:44] <antoine_sd_> changed Seam Parent to 5 and rebuilt Seam Config from last version github. Everything is ok : Weld Extension disappeared  and Seam Solder is now a dependency of Seam Config.
[17:19:19] <antoine_sd_> BTW the initialization phase is now much faster !
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[17:24:34] <pmuir> antoine_sd: yeah we have been working on that :-D
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[18:40:54] <mojavelinux> stuart I changed the persistence impl to use the APIs from jboss-javaee-6.0
[18:41:15] <mojavelinux> for the persistence module, that may include too many permitted APIs (accidental linking against something that shouldn't be used in persistence)
[18:41:28] <mojavelinux> feel free to revert to individual artifacts
[18:42:17] <mojavelinux> the jboss-javaee-6.0 can be used in cases where you just need the APIs but aren't worried about having too many, such as in the tests/base submodule
[19:14:06] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree: or mojavelinux: Someone should comment on http://seamframework.org/Community/SeamfacesDoesNotRunOnGlassFish with all the info about GF not being fully compliant.
[19:14:42] <lightguard_jp> Maybe we should make a sticky on the Seam3 forum
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[19:21:44] <mojavelinux> yes, this is absolutely something we need to address before the week is out, I talked to jason about this for a long time yesterday
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[19:22:10] <mojavelinux> before we offer any solutions or fixes, we first have to communicate what the current story is
[19:22:16] <mojavelinux> communication is so important here
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[19:22:50] <mojavelinux> we don't just brush this off, we admit there is a problem and we want a solution, and we have to find the best approach...it's not clear cut, but it's not impossible either
[19:23:34] <mojavelinux> the main issue I see is that we have just jumped to conclusions and half-baked solutions, and we need a real solution and a definitive way forward
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[19:31:55] <jganoff> Came up for air, how's everything going?
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[19:45:44] <mojavelinux> hey jordan! going good, but busy
[19:45:52] <mojavelinux> hahah, what else is new...but this is a good kind of busy
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[20:22:55] <mojavelinux> how are things with you?
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[20:27:53] <stuartdouglas> It's my last full day at work today :-)
[20:28:12] <lightguard_jp> stuartdouglas: Lucky you
[20:28:13] <mojavelinux> drink up that egg nog! hahha, who drinks that stuff anyway?
[20:28:19] <lightguard_jp> yuck
[20:28:27] <mojavelinux> I think it's just a saying at this point ;)
[20:29:04] <stuartdouglas> hopefully I will be able to get my modules released tonight
[20:29:15] <stuartdouglas> as I am going back to my parents place tomorrow
[20:29:34] <stuartdouglas> and I don't think maven would like their satelite internet :-)
[20:29:39] <mojavelinux> hahaha
[20:29:58] <mojavelinux> if you run short on time, just let me know...I'm starting to be able to release in my sleep
[20:30:07] <mojavelinux> hmm, if I take a nap at lunch, I wonder if servlet will release itself
[20:30:08] <mojavelinux> hahaha
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[22:06:30] <mojavelinux> I just learned that *within* seam modules, we should be using an annotation processor to generate the type-safe logging implementation classes
[22:07:00] <mojavelinux> this will resolve our intermittent logger problems and purge these static blocks in extensions like LoggerExtension
[22:07:53] <lightguard_jp> Is there a possibility this could solve some of the GF issues?
[22:08:28] <mojavelinux> yes and no
[22:08:46] <mojavelinux> yes in that you won't need javassist
[22:08:58] <mojavelinux> meaning, now, no javassist == instant failure
[22:09:09] <mojavelinux> however, it should be that javassist enables some extra features
[22:09:21] <mojavelinux> but because of the logging, we need javassist or the startup fails because of the logging
[22:09:32] <mojavelinux> so this is a definite improvement for solder
[22:09:40] <mojavelinux> now I just need to figure out how to use this dang tooling ;)
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[22:27:52] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master 9b52018.. Dan Allen use qualified category for Version
[22:27:52] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master 272afa0.. Dan Allen use ExpressionFactory service provider in tests
[22:27:52] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master eb924c8.. Dan Allen upgrade seam-parent and seam-bom...
[22:27:53] <jbossbot> git [solder] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/solder/compare/d903c81...eb924c8
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[22:37:25] <lincolnthree> ps maxandersen: mvnDebug works great :) thanks for the tip oh IDE guru
[22:38:17] <mojavelinux> yeah, mvnDebug is a treasure, a hidden, hidden treasure
[22:38:28] <mojavelinux> I never tried it because I never knew it would wait for me to connect
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[22:38:35] <lincolnthree> expect forge Tab-completion to get light-years better due to that
[22:38:36] <mojavelinux> without that feature, it would be like a whack a mole game
[22:38:45] <lincolnthree> lol
[22:38:46] <lincolnthree> yeah
[22:39:09] <lincolnthree> which, in this case, is a good thing that the code runs in the same JVM as maven itself
[22:39:16] <lincolnthree> otherwise you'd be basically SOL
[22:39:54] <mojavelinux> yep
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[22:58:30] <jganoff> mojavelinux, doing good - albeit distracted by work!
[22:58:37] <jganoff> mojavelinux, ready for the holidays!
[22:59:08] <lincolnthree> hey jganoff! wish we could get everyone together for the holidays and hang / geek out
[22:59:20] <jganoff> lincolnthree, that would be great
[22:59:20] <lincolnthree> we need another JSFSummit
[22:59:34] <jganoff> I'll be in Alabama Thursday - Monday
[22:59:36] <jganoff> it's almost NC
[22:59:43] <lincolnthree> Nice! I'll be in PA, though, lol.
[22:59:44] <jganoff> closer than Orlando ;)
[22:59:45] <jganoff> Doh!
[23:00:27] <lincolnthree> haha
[23:00:32] <lincolnthree> Yeah, might be moving there.
[23:00:37] <lincolnthree> Trying to work up the motivation.
[23:01:55] <lightguard_jp> lincolnthree: To Orlando?
[23:02:01] <lincolnthree> To PA
[23:02:48] <jganoff> PA is nice
[23:02:50] <jganoff> Steelers ;)
[23:02:55] <lincolnthree> Eagles
[23:03:22] <jganoff> I see someone other than me created a seam jms jira! :D
[23:03:35] <jganoff> Now if I can find the time to work on it... oh boy.
[23:03:50] <lincolnthree> hehe
[23:03:57] <jganoff> Anyway, back to work for me!  Talk to you soon
[23:04:08] <lightguard_jp> Later
[23:04:35] <lincolnthree> cya jganoff!
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[23:07:42] <mojavelinux> this is a Steeler free chat room
[23:07:53] <mojavelinux> No Steelers, no Cowboys
[23:07:56] <mojavelinux> any other team is fair game
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[23:23:46] <Nik> thank $DEITY it's winter solstice. We have around 5:50 of daylight here currently
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[23:36:18] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master c6f879a.. Lincoln Baxter, III merged persistence and web plugin projects into a consolidated J2ee project
[23:36:18] <jbossbot> git [forge] push master URL: http://github.com/seam/forge/compare/d7d7b7b...c6f879a
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