February 4, 2014 
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February 4, 2014 [00:14:21] *** ipalreadytaken has quit IRC[00:45:05] *** ipalreadytaken has joined #project-FiFo[01:02:46] *** jim80net has quit IRC[01:20:56] <Licenser> ./bin/fifo vms svcadm <uuid> disable svc:/pkgsrc/rsyslog:default[01:34:56] <ipalreadytaken> Licenser: possible to run vms svcadm on multiple vms based on property filter? Some thing like ./bin/fifo vms svcadm owner=<uuid> disable svc:/pkgsrc/rsyslog:default or ./bin/fifo vms svcadm dataset=<uuid>&&package=<uuid> disable svc:/pkgsrc/rsyslog:default[01:35:24] <Licenser> ipalreadytaken nope but unix to a rescue?[01:35:34] <Licenser> well there is no owner field you can output I fear[01:35:38] <Licenser> but aside of that?[01:36:29] <Licenser> fifo vms list -o uuid,ower | grep $OWNER | awk -e '{print $1]}' | xargs -n 1 fifo vms svadm {} disable $SERVICE[01:36:43] <Licenser> something along those lines[01:37:23] <Licenser> perhaps wantto do list -pHo uuid,owner[01:37:31] <Licenser> but yea I think it is possible[01:38:15] <ipalreadytaken> Nice. How is the svcadm implememted? is it just chunter running zlogin svcadm ?[01:38:42] <Licenser> nope not ever going in the zone :) svcadm -z <zone> disable ...[01:39:39] <ipalreadytaken> oh nice. didnt know that was an available arg for svcadm.[01:39:39] <Licenser> I think that option is more powerful then allowing filters[01:39:51] <Licenser> me neither until 5 days ago :P[01:40:18] <Licenser> while filters will surely be cool and propably be added at some point[01:40:30] <Licenser> but most likely only fot list[01:40:36] <ipalreadytaken> I agree. I like your method. I was just curious.[01:40:41] <Licenser> :)[01:41:16] <Licenser> internally fifo has very powerful filtering functions but they are hard to properly expose over a REST api[01:58:27] *** conan_the_destro has quit IRC[02:04:21] *** ira has joined #project-FiFo[02:07:55] <Licenser> aaand it's in the UI :)[02:26:43] *** konobi_ is now known as konobi[02:31:17] <konobi> ullo[03:06:11] <Licenser> trentster joyent blow your VPN host?[03:07:23] <trentster> no they pissed me off, with a bit unethical billing practices - IMO[03:08:27] <Licenser> that sucks[03:09:23] <trentster> yeah, its not the money its the principal[03:11:01] <trentster> Dont tell me you gonna serve me a burger and fries for $5 each month. Then I sign up, and you start telling me sorry, its actually $5 for the burger and 20 cents per fry. Especially when I always eat fries with my burger. So the burger lands up costing me $15[03:12:22] <Licenser> +1 to that[03:22:39] <konobi> yeah... i need to ping the ceo at some point[03:23:22] <trentster> I am gonna write a blog post about this. To say I am pissed is an understatement.[03:24:34] <konobi> trentster: i will say though... the reserved stuff works out well[03:25:42] <trentster> konobi: I spoke to sales, and got a canned rsponse when I asked about reserved pricing, I even mentioned your name that you recommended I ask about it.[03:25:59] <trentster> The robotic response was sorry we do not offer fixed pricing on future machines.[03:26:11] <trentster> period.[03:26:40] <konobi> trentster: talk to Rod[03:27:34] * Licenser shares his blueberry muffin[03:29:11] <Licenser> or brian, he is a nice guy or even diadree[03:29:48] <konobi> i know rod pretty well, plus he's on that side of the business[03:30:59] <trentster> yeah, funny thing is I wanted to start bringing on some additional clients onto the Joyent cloud, I searched Joyent and there was a mention of an affiliate program through an affiliate provider. I signed up and got my joyent id.[03:31:27] <trentster> I then log into the program and see that status of Joyent as a provider is "temporarliy unavailable"[03:32:07] <trentster> I asked sales now about there affiliate program. And lo and behold got the same canned response. Sorry we do not have an affiliate program.[03:32:09] <konobi> trentster: yeah... ping rod, drop my name[03:32:11] <trentster> lol[03:33:16] <konobi> iirc it was rod that I talked to about reserved pricing... he's also a biz dev guy, so he should know about the affiliate scheme[03:36:47] <trentster> Looks like things are starting to slide since "Jason Hoffman" left[03:37:41] <trentster> When an awesome company like Joyent start to piss off customers, especially someone who blogs a lot about SmartOS, its not a good sign at all.[03:38:09] <konobi> well, yeah... i have my reasons for wanting to email the ceo[04:01:31] *** ipalreadytaken has quit IRC[04:01:58] *** ipalreadytaken has joined #project-FiFo[04:02:18] *** ipalreadytaken has quit IRC[04:02:42] *** ipalreadytaken has joined #project-FiFo[04:07:20] *** ipalreadytaken has quit IRC[04:13:48] *** ipalreadytaken has joined #project-FiFo[04:24:29] *** ipalreadytaken has quit IRC[04:30:10] *** jlove007 has joined #project-FiFo[04:30:48] *** jlove007 has quit IRC[04:33:57] *** jlove007 has joined #project-FiFo[04:35:59] *** jlove007 has quit IRC[04:36:19] *** jlove007 has joined #project-FiFo[04:37:51] *** ira has quit IRC[04:49:16] *** jlove007 has quit IRC[07:34:35] *** tomww_ has joined #project-FiFo[07:39:06] *** TechByTom has quit IRC[07:39:11] *** tomww has quit IRC[07:39:14] *** ArdaXi has quit IRC[09:37:02] <mattronix> can fifo connect to dataset server over https?[09:37:14] <mattronix> in the options is it https://datasetserver[09:46:56] *** bixu has joined #project-FiFo[11:49:48] *** ira has joined #project-FiFo[12:35:41] *** ArdaXi has joined #project-FiFo[12:35:43] *** ArdaXi has quit IRC[12:35:43] *** ArdaXi has joined #project-FiFo[12:43:10] *** tomww_ is now known as tomww[13:11:06] *** wiedi has quit IRC[13:11:36] *** wiedi has joined #project-FiFo[13:41:23] *** alcir has joined #project-FiFo[14:03:52] *** bixu has quit IRC[14:29:23] <Licenser> morning everyone[14:29:39] <Licenser> mattronix the backend should take that w/o issues, I am not sure how jingles handles it[15:41:53] *** bixu has joined #project-FiFo[15:43:05] *** jim80net has joined #project-FiFo[15:43:58] *** bixu has quit IRC[15:50:50] *** bixu has joined #project-FiFo[15:56:34] <mattronix> Licenser: we will find out :)[16:22:33] <tomww> hi[16:23:19] <tomww> currently in the need of a step guide for creating a ataset from a prepared VM (vmadm create, installed windows OS, shutdown). Now how to create an image from it.[16:23:37] <tomww> is imgadm the right tool?[16:28:43] <Licenser> tomww I can't say fore sure how it is for windows, never did that but if you're in FiFo you can just go to the imaging tab and there is a nice button for it[16:28:50] <Licenser> I never did it any other way[16:28:56] <Licenser> well never did it that way either[16:43:16] <tomww> well, fifo just does not yet know about this vm, as it was created with vmadm ...[16:43:24] <tomww> can I update the list of VMs on the fifo side?[16:44:22] *** TechByTom has joined #project-FiFo[16:45:48] *** AlainODea has left #project-FiFo[16:54:42] *** conan_the_destro has joined #project-FiFo[16:59:46] *** alcir has quit IRC[16:59:55] *** olauzon has joined #project-FiFo[17:22:57] <Licenser> tomww right now by restarting chunter[17:22:59] *** TechByTo_ has joined #project-FiFo[17:24:26] *** TechByTom has quit IRC[17:47:22] <tomww> well, in that installation chunter from time to time dies.[17:48:37] <tomww> and the vm doesn't appear on the fifo side on its own[19:03:51] *** jim80net_ has joined #project-FiFo[19:06:02] *** jim80net has quit IRC[19:06:02] *** jim80net_ is now known as jim80net[19:11:14] *** wiedi has quit IRC[19:11:44] *** wiedi has joined #project-FiFo[19:18:13] <tomww> okay, getting annoid by imgadm create. complains about a not passed name to the zfs function internal to imgadm create.[19:29:02] <MerlinDMC> tomww, wasn't the create part in testing stage currently?[19:30:06] <MerlinDMC> yeah ... so I would assume it has quirks :)[19:30:59] <tomww> I would be happy as well, if I had a setp-guide to manually place an image into imgadm list[19:31:31] <tomww> but most of the docs is outdated, as tools changed.[19:31:43] <tomww> (or just fail, as imgadm create )[19:31:51] <tomww> so, what is recommended to do this task:[19:32:09] <tomww> done is creating a VM with W2k8-Server in it.[19:32:35] <tomww> shutdown, created a snapshot of the ZVOL, zfs send it and piped through gzip.[19:32:52] <tomww> then, what next? writing the manifest, and where does this go to?[19:33:26] <Licenser> tomww what is your goal in the end?[19:33:49] <tomww> having the Win2k( in the dataset list in fifo[19:34:12] <tomww> so, if I can just clone that VM and get it in Fifo on another way, that woudl be fine as well.[19:34:15] <Licenser> okay then I think the best way is to figure out why your chunter is not picking up the zone[19:34:30] <Licenser> if you want it in fifo you can get round all the whole process[19:34:31] <tomww> oh, yes. really that is to be fixed.[19:34:41] <Licenser> tomww did you restart chunter?[19:34:41] <tomww> log daid i would now be responding to pings.[19:34:48] <tomww> svcadm clear chunter[19:34:57] <tomww> yes, and it is restartet[19:35:05] <Licenser> svadm restart chunter too?[19:35:30] <tomww> hm. I believe SMF does the same when damons is away.[19:35:36] <tomww> didnt try restart[19:36:05] <tomww> aha, it is back in maintenanve[19:36:36] <tomww> most likely I have a bit odd networking setup.[19:36:57] <tomww> the IP Address of network 10.x.x.x is not up, I think I have to fix that first[19:38:19] <Licenser> tomww running 0.4.2 or 0.4.3?[19:39:40] <tomww> here to look up that quickly?[19:39:50] <tomww> I think stable version[19:40:17] <Licenser> you might want to update to 0.4.3[19:40:27] <Licenser> tomww in the zone just look at the package[19:43:05] <tomww> hm. begin 644 chunter-0.3.12p1.tar[19:43:31] <tomww> I used the install instructions few days ago, selected stable.[19:43:36] <tomww> ah[19:44:05] <Licenser> if you look at /opt/chunter/bin/update[19:44:14] <Licenser> there is a RELEASE variable[19:45:41] <tomww> oh well, that is BRANCH, and set to "rel"[19:45:47] <tomww> so no numbers.[19:46:19] <tomww> okay. how do update chunter and does this ned updating the fifi zone too (I guess, yes)[19:47:25] <tomww> the upgrade guide on the fifo wiki . .[19:49:25] <Licenser> tomww yea there is only rel and dev[19:49:29] <tomww> /opt/chunter/etc]# cat chunter.version[19:49:30] <tomww> master-c8211f7, Sun Nov 24 04:35:28 2013 +0100[19:49:38] <Licenser> that is a pretty old version ;)[19:49:43] <tomww> so, change rel to dev[19:49:44] <Licenser> newest one is from about 15m ago[19:49:51] <Licenser> you need to run update after tthat[19:49:52] <tomww> that old? :-)[19:50:07] <Licenser> tomww yea I was busy chatting with you so I couldn't write more code :P[19:50:51] *** hugo has joined #project-FiFo[19:51:09] <tomww> oh, I knew that I'm the bad one of us[19:51:25] <Licenser> heh[19:51:37] <tomww> okay, updated. now clear maintenance?[19:52:32] <Licenser> disable, clear, enable[19:52:42] <tomww> ah okay. the SMF needs to be updated/refreshed as well I think[19:53:13] <tomww> [ Feb 4 18:52:06 Executing start method ("/opt/chunter/bin/chunter start"). ][19:53:16] <tomww> vm.args needs to have a -name parameter. -sname is not supported.[19:55:51] <Licenser> oh that is old old[19:55:56] <Licenser> go to /opt/chunter/etc[19:56:00] <tomww> oh. old processes still runnuing I think: nobody 2187 1 FSS 29 Jan 31 ? 0:21 /opt/chunter/erts-5.10.1/bin/epmd -daemon[19:56:14] <Licenser> that's epmd that's OK[19:56:20] <Licenser> there you'll se a vm.args, sys.config AND a chunter.conf[19:56:24] <Licenser> you see those?[19:58:10] <tomww> can see vm.args chunter.conf but *no* sys.config , can see app.confgig[19:59:12] <tomww> aha. cat vm.args[19:59:12] <tomww> ## Name of the node[19:59:43] <Licenser> yea remove vm.args[19:59:48] <Licenser> and app.config[19:59:54] <Licenser> chunter.conf is the new config file[20:00:03] <Licenser> and while you run into that issue I'll document it :D[20:01:12] <tomww> [ Feb 4 19:00:57 Leaving maintenance because clear requested. ][20:01:12] <tomww> [ Feb 4 19:00:57 Enabled. ][20:01:12] <tomww> [ Feb 4 19:00:57 Executing start method ("/opt/chunter/bin/chunter start"). ][20:01:15] <tomww> [ Feb 4 19:00:58 Method tart" exited with status 0. ][20:01:21] <tomww> I gave a avcadm clear[20:01:25] <tomww> *svcadm[20:01:40] <Licenser> sounds good[20:03:10] <tomww> okay. would it be good to update fifo in the zone as well?[20:04:09] <tomww> for the docs, I did rm vm.args.example as well[20:04:45] <tomww> and rm app.config.example. now it is:[20:04:45] <tomww> ls[20:04:45] <tomww> chunter.conf chunter.conf.example chunter.version host_id[20:04:48] <Licenser> yea you can remove the examples too[20:05:12] <Licenser> the vm.args.example has no effect the only thing is that the package includes the vm.args.example and the install script copies it to vm.args if it is not existing that[20:05:22] <Licenser> this way the vm.args will not be deleted when you uninstall a package[20:05:27] <Licenser> same goes for the chunter.conf[20:06:07] <tomww> but I believe we still habe an issue with chunter (or my network config)[20:06:27] <tomww> what I need is a regular 192.168.1.x network address, as the setup is so simple.[20:06:56][20:07:13] <tomww> how to add a virtual network address to the global zone then[20:07:44] <Licenser> yap[20:07:49] <Licenser> a vnic or something like that[20:08:04] <tomww> about the chunter not happy, https://paste.in-ulm.de/?0dd46c8eb3066330#tlRC/QqadGSH8Krb7GIMToEolzvRSalPW7o9vkl7duU=[20:08:26] <Licenser> yea it can't connect I guess[20:08:36] <tomww> just for reference. I believe that could go away once I manages to have a /usbkey/config with 192.168.1.100 and 10.something[20:08:52] <Licenser> yup[20:08:58] <tomww> ah, a persistent vnic would be an idea.[20:09:04] <Licenser> tomww it's a very common practice to have two networks on one vnic[20:09:11] <Licenser> like just do a fifo network in there[20:09:39] <tomww> I'll try to lookup a configure hint how to do that with smartos (hvae a persistent vnic[20:12:18] <tomww> oh, what a surprise. they just steal the physical address of the physical ethernetcard, and that ends up in a vnic at boot time. oh well.[20:12:43] <Licenser> tomww it's very easy[20:17:54] <tomww> yes, but if you know the tools itself, then you worry about how to do that instead of just doing it.[20:18:05] <tomww> I can now ping the fifo zone.[20:18:16] <tomww> does chunter want a restart with the changed ip address?[20:19:04] <tomww> okay. now the question should I do an update of the fifo zone[20:28:25] <tomww> where do I set the development version for the packages in the fifo zone?[20:29:08] <Licenser> tomww propably need to tell chunter what it's IP is[20:29:55] <Licenser> there is a ip field in the chunter.conf[20:31:02] <tomww> ah, okay.[20:31:11] <tomww> can do this before the fifo zone update[20:38:35] <tomww> upgrading fifo from fifo-snarl-0.4.2p2 to fifo-snarl-0.4.3pre20140201T004119Z (all fifo-* )[20:39:22] <tomww> anything special to keep an eye on when upgrading the fifo zone to the versions above?[20:39:44] <tomww> maybe adding user rights as noted on the regular install for development?[20:41:35] <tomww> okay, see differences. diff -u /opt/local/fifo-jingles/config/nginx.conf /opt/local/etc/nginx/nginx.conf[20:41:49] <tomww> + root /opt/local/fifo-jingles/app;[20:43:06] *** wiedi has quit IRC[20:43:36] *** wiedi has joined #project-FiFo[20:47:23] <tomww> okay. looks like fifo zone as well has old config files lingering around, right?[20:48:29] <tomww> ls */etc/vm*[20:48:29] <tomww> fifo-howl/etc/vm.args fifo-snarl/etc/vm.args fifo-sniffle/etc/vm.args fifo-wiggle/etc/vm.args[20:49:06] <tomww> all in maintenance now: snarl wiggle sniffle howl[20:49:26] <mattronix> how do you get the output of running dtrace scripts on fifo[20:55:09] <tomww> hi mattronix[20:56:42] <tomww> I can't tell[20:57:13] <tomww> Licenser: upgraded fifo zone, the old config files named above remove, then maintenance of services was gone.[20:57:32] <tomww> added from the install page/development section the additional rights for cloud.[20:57:57] <Licenser> tomww yea the fifo zone need to have the same cahnges for config files[20:58:00] <tomww> now can see all the VMs. I hing the virtual network card did the trick.[20:58:09] <Licenser> tomww :D[20:58:36] <tomww> I will now make the snapshot and then the image test, so my buddy will be totally happy if I can tell him that is looks good now.[20:58:55] <tomww> thanks much, owe you two beer (at least)[21:00:35] <mattronix> tomww: great idea :) Licenser do you drink club mate?[21:01:06] <Licenser> mattronix I enjoy it a lot indeed, more then beer :P[21:04:59] <tomww> okay, then at least 2 club mate[21:05:00] <Licenser> mattronix the dtrace requires some special dtrace stuff, you can look at the examples in the manual[21:05:31] <mattronix> Licenser: :) i also owe you a few club mates :)[21:06:04] <mattronix> manual for dtrace or fifo?[21:06:11] <Licenser> fifo[21:06:35] <Licenser> http://project-fifo.net/display/PF/DTrace+Scripts?src=search[21:06:57] <mattronix> i see i missed it i searched for dtrace and got nothing back :P[21:06:59] <mattronix> cheers[21:08:41] <mattronix> o cool fifoadm is used to get the data results[21:09:51] <Licenser> no fifoadm is not getting you the results, it can just import the stuff[21:12:13] <mattronix> ooo[21:12:24] <mattronix> and cool fifo python client[21:13:21] <Licenser> neither, right now it's UI only[21:13:29] <Licenser> because the trace is streaming not static[21:13:45] <Licenser> having some visualisation on the console for the heatmap would be incedible cool so[21:13:59] <Licenser> but honestly not a top priority for me[21:14:28] *** _lb_ has joined #project-FiFo[21:14:34] <mattronix> o[21:15:09] <Licenser> would mean a lot of work to connect the python client to a websocket and kind of write a propper text visualisation etc[21:19:39] <tomww> is it possible to see what fifo does when it comes to creating a dataset from a snapshot of a VM ?[21:20:14] <Licenser> tomww it's all open source so yea[21:21:05] <tomww> so, my question was not precise enough .)[21:21:50] <Licenser> what exacty do you mean with 'see'[21:22:27] <tomww> well, I doubt that the machine craeates the dataset right now.[21:23:03] <Licenser> you can look at the chunter logs[21:23:40] <tomww> ah, good point, as chunter has to do the real work here.[21:25:12] <tomww> hm. dies the fifo zone as well use the IP-Address of the interface found first use for communication?[21:27:58] <tomww> looks like something with mdns in the crash.log of chunter[21:35:00] *** ipalreadytaken has joined #project-FiFo[21:37:26] <Licenser> tomww you'll have to configure your IP addressees if you use some other ip's[21:41:56] <tomww> okay. same method as weil chunter?[21:44:06] <tomww> s/weil/with/[21:44:36] <tomww> I'll continue tomorrow, thanks for tonight![21:46:10] <Licenser> tomww do you have multiple NIC's in the fifo zone? if no it should have picked up the right IP[22:01:01] <tomww> yes[22:04:09] <tomww> but unfortunatly I locked myself out from the ssh access (maybe the new usbkey/config was not error free). I can continue tomorrow when someone with local LAN access can help fixing it.[22:08:59] *** bayoda has quit IRC[22:12:13] *** bayoda has joined #project-FiFo[22:19:00] <killfill> hi[22:19:34] <MerlinDMC> hiho[22:19:43] <killfill> let go.. :P[22:20:01] <killfill> wow.. much problem report on the mailing list.. i guess its good..[22:20:28] <killfill> (and on irc..:P)[22:21:36] <MerlinDMC> way too late here ... guess i'll get some sleep[22:23:56] <killfill> c'ya![22:48:30] *** jim80net has quit IRC[22:51:40] *** _lb_ has quit IRC[22:58:37] *** ipalreadytaken has quit IRC[22:59:07] *** ipalreadytaken has joined #project-FiFo[23:04:20] *** ipalreadytaken has quit IRC[23:12:40] *** jim80net has joined #project-FiFo[23:13:12] *** kfr_ has joined #project-FiFo[23:14:02] <kfr_> I'd like to use project-fifo to manage our branch office smartos boxes[23:14:25] <kfr_> I tried using an mdns forwarder in the past on our routers but that did not work[23:15:15] <kfr_> is there a way of telling a project-fifo managed smartos box to go register at a certain IP address?[23:16:05] *** olauzon has quit IRC[23:22:33] <kfr_> I gotta disconnect soon but I will take a look at http://echelog.com/?project-fifo if someone answers[23:47:49] *** kfr_ has quit IRC