January 29, 2020 
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Anywhere.)[01:43:55] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has quit IRC (Quit: shibboleth)[01:45:20] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@ip5b43a60b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:47:19] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:48bc:bfff:feb7:af31> has joined #postfix[01:49:22] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:48bc:bfff:feb7:af31> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:51:13] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:1153:db58:dc65:f37a> has joined #postfix[02:00:15] *** Grefoley33 <Grefoley33!~Grefoley@lfbn-ren-1-2005-183.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)[02:09:34] *** kingx <kingx!~kingx@c-69-181-4-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:11:16] *** kingx <kingx!~kingx@c-69-181-4-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[02:24:31] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:1153:db58:dc65:f37a> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[02:24:44] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:48bc:bfff:feb7:af31> has joined #postfix[02:32:46] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:48bc:bfff:feb7:af31> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[02:34:37] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:48bc:bfff:feb7:af31> has joined #postfix[02:36:57] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:37:15] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has joined #postfix[02:40:31] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@187.211.32.135> has joined #postfix[02:46:55] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: azwieg103)[02:50:59] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:1748:fad4:7260:c488:ea2:193f:530a> has joined #postfix[02:53:28] *** kingx <kingx!~kingx@c-69-181-4-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:53:37] *** wings <wings!~wings@unaffiliated/wings> has joined #postfix[02:54:37] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:54:58] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[02:54:59] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[02:55:23] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[02:55:24] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[02:57:27] *** oculuxe <oculuxe!~oculux@128.127.105.184> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:57:50] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@128.127.104.80> has joined #postfix[02:58:13] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[02:58:14] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[02:59:34] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[03:22:53] *** ovrstorm <ovrstorm!~ovrstorm@air.raid.io> has quit IRC (Quit: We're sorry, your call cannot be dialed as completed ...)[03:28:21] *** ovrstorm <ovrstorm!~ovrstorm@air.raid.io> has joined #postfix[03:33:15] *** mistergibson <mistergibson!~mistergib@75-164-156-151.ptld.qwest.net> has joined #postfix[04:22:32] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:29:20] *** RadoQ <RadoQ!~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:35:45] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has joined #postfix[04:40:45] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has joined #postfix[04:57:44] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.191.219.70> has joined #postfix[05:08:30] <lembron> can one capture in regexp:? - specifically something along sender_canonical_maps=regexp:<<EOL /^.* at ( dot *)$/ postmaster@$1[05:10:11] <lunaphyte> that's all documented[05:10:18] <lunaphyte> !tell lembron regexp[05:10:18] <knoba> lembron: I do not know about 'regexp', but I do know about these similar topics: 'regex'[05:10:32] <lunaphyte> oh, i think that's a different factoid[05:10:59] <lunaphyte> anyway, see regexp_table(5)[05:11:02] <lunaphyte> !regex[05:11:02] <knoba> lunaphyte: some people, when confronted with a problem, think i know, i'll use regular expressions. now they have two problems. (jamie zawinski)[05:11:12] <lembron> the regex part is not so much the Q, but more "if one can even do that there" as the man is verrrrry small on that http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#sender_canonical_maps[05:11:49] <lunaphyte> backreferences are a regexp question, yes. nothing related to sender_canonical_maps[05:12:26] <lembron> as in, "does it take $1, or will i get "Return-Path: postaster@$1" then in my mails and everything explodes :P[05:12:29] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216.75.116.100> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:12:44] <lunaphyte> yup, that's all documented[05:21:50] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@187.211.32.135> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[06:13:54] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye cruel world!)[06:16:25] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has joined #postfix[06:45:20] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has joined #postfix[07:03:13] *** CarlenWhite <CarlenWhite!~CarlenWhi@82.sub-174-241-136.myvzw.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:09:35] *** CarlenWhite <CarlenWhite!~CarlenWhi@82.sub-174-241-136.myvzw.com> has joined #postfix[07:21:52] *** FH_thecat <FH_thecat!~FH_thecat@75.11.25.212.ftth.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:22:12] *** FH_thecat <FH_thecat!~FH_thecat@75.11.25.212.ftth.as8758.net> has joined #postfix[07:27:37] *** deksar <deksar!~deksar@unaffiliated/deksar> has joined #postfix[07:36:23] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[07:38:49] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.13> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:48:27] *** ccamel <ccamel!~camela@198.8.80.86> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:49:15] *** camelCaser <camelCaser!~camela@196.244.191.164> has joined #postfix[07:51:34] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.13> has joined #postfix[07:54:10] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:1748:fad4:7260:c488:ea2:193f:530a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[08:15:33] *** CarlenWhite <CarlenWhite!~CarlenWhi@82.sub-174-241-136.myvzw.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[08:16:50] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.191.219.70> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:20:03] *** CarlenWhite <CarlenWhite!~CarlenWhi@82.sub-174-241-136.myvzw.com> has joined #postfix[08:24:23] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[08:38:40] *** epony <epony!epony@unaffiliated/epony> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:40:30] *** FH_thecat <FH_thecat!~FH_thecat@75.11.25.212.ftth.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:07:34] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@93-103-57-197.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #postfix[09:11:55] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@93-103-57-197.dynamic.t-2.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:16:09] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[09:16:53] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:19:44] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:55:20] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[11:21:01] *** FH_thecat <FH_thecat!~FH_thecat@75.11.25.212.ftth.as8758.net> has joined #postfix[11:33:34] *** RadoQ <RadoQ!~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq> has joined #postfix[11:36:59] *** d3lphi <d3lphi!~d3lphi@unaffiliated/d3lphi> has joined #postfix[11:39:37] <d3lphi> hi all.I'm stuck here: I have a printer trying to deliver notifications mails through my postfix.The printer is in my LAN which is part of my_networks. Although all my restriction sections have "permit_mynetworks" in the top beginning the client is not permitted to send the mail with error message "not able to SASL auth".Why? i checked main.cf and master.cf and permit_mynetworks is included[11:42:24] <d3lphi> I even tried setting smtpd_delay_reject=no in master.cf for the SSL port where my client connects to but error still occurs[11:49:59] <survietamine> hello, you should read /topic and try to follow !getting_help factoid and others[11:58:17] <d3lphi> any help appreciated --> https://privatebin.net/?4cfb3642a34b56bd#H8hz7MLfU5Z8Nu6p3MqubNZWfTLAH2j4aB7W5v7JgGVB[12:06:51] *** HumanGeek <HumanGeek!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:14:28] *** epony <epony!epony@unaffiliated/epony> has joined #postfix[12:15:55] <d3lphi> tried also smtpd_sasl_exceptions_networks but without success :([12:22:17] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:23:02] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[12:32:58] *** HumanGeek <HumanGeek!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[12:38:45] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[12:46:27] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.195.124> has joined #postfix[13:02:27] <d3lphi> any help appreciated --> https://privatebin.net/?4cfb3642a34b56bd#H8hz7MLfU5Z8Nu6p3MqubNZWfTLAH2j4aB7W5v7JgGVB[13:22:08] *** random_yanek <random_yanek!~random_ya@87.116.228.194> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:22:33] *** random_yanek <random_yanek!~random_ya@87.116.228.194> has joined #postfix[13:35:30] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has joined #postfix[13:52:15] <mmx870> If you don't want to use SASL auth then maybe you should try without the line "-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes" and see what happens[13:52:28] <mmx870> d3lphi[13:59:39] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-150-7.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[14:02:57] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[14:05:19] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[14:10:30] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[14:20:36] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[14:34:03] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[14:34:29] <patdk-lap> d3lphi, your post doesn't help to resolve the issue at all, try following the instructions again[14:34:34] <patdk-lap> !tell d3lphi getting_help[14:34:35] <knoba> d3lphi: before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[14:35:46] <lunaphyte> d3lphi: set up the printer's email config correctly. it attempted smtp auth, but failed[14:36:12] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:36:13] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[14:37:55] <lunaphyte> also, don't use permit_mynetworks[14:42:51] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.195.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:45:22] <d3lphi> mmx870: that was not helpful unfortunately. I had tried this already. The helping hint came from lunaphyte (as usual :)) my printer config tries to AUTH whenever the fields (username/pwd) contains anything.At the moment I removed the fields AUTH was not used and connection succeeds. But why not using a /32 mask in mynetworks for this printer ?[14:45:59] <d3lphi> also I don't understand yet, why the setting smtpd_sasl_exceptions didn't work. In my understanding, postfix should not offer AUTH for this client at all, regardless what config the printer had.[14:47:26] <thumbs> why would you use exceptions? Configure the device to auth properly[14:52:46] <lunaphyte> d3lphi: i don't understand. you're printer supports smtp auth. that's great - use it![14:52:52] <lunaphyte> *your printer[15:08:17] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has joined #postfix[15:11:56] <d3lphi> lunaphyte: I had to install saslauthd and rimap for only this particular printer. I am a friend of KISS and trying to avoid unnecessary processes,open ports,etc. on my server.I can add a single exception with this single IP address which is OK for me.[15:12:59] <lunaphyte> now i'm really confused[15:15:19] <lunaphyte> you've got a submissions service, and none of the clients are using smtp auth? that's terrifying[15:21:36] <d3lphi> I am running 465, forcing SSL without STARTTLS. Don't see where the problem is?[15:22:14] <d3lphi> oh you mean, why not shutdown 465 and let my printer delivers its mail through SMTP on port 25?[15:23:23] <survietamine> port 25 is not for smtp auth[15:24:06] <d3lphi> I dont do/need AUTH any more :)[15:25:12] <lunaphyte> but what's the answer to my question?[15:25:29] <lunaphyte> what is your submissions service for?[15:25:33] <lunaphyte> this one printer?[15:26:18] <d3lphi> at the time I created it yes, now I could get rid of it. Want to reduce things and processes ...[15:26:55] <d3lphi> the effect: I learnd by trying. Never used submission before so I had a great time (and pain) the time I was setting up 587, 465 and saslauthd with rimap[15:28:14] <lunaphyte> yeah, you don't need saslauthd or rimap for smtp auth[15:28:20] <lunaphyte> that's definitely overcomplicating things[15:29:00] <d3lphi> however, thanks again![15:45:46] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #postfix[15:52:53] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:05:06] <tibyke> what is the easiest way to find out if my postfix supports TLS 1.3 or not? postfix 3.1.12, openssl 1.1.1d, debian stretch[16:07:36] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:07:55] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has joined #postfix[16:11:30] <tibyke> okay, increased loglevels[16:11:49] <rob0> uh, yikes[16:12:28] <rob0> only the *_tls_loglevels would have anything of interest, and they would not directly answer your question[16:12:49] <rob0> I'd read the openssl documentation.[16:13:19] <tibyke> 1.1.1d supports it, postfix 3.1.12 supports it[16:13:56] <tibyke> also added to smtpd_tls_protocols and smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols[16:14:17] <lunaphyte> you could use gnutls-cli to test[16:16:29] <tibyke> thx, lunaphyte! it says TLSv1.2 (I presume it returns the highest)[16:16:38] <lunaphyte> you do? why?[16:16:44] <lunaphyte> specify whatever version you like[16:17:31] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[16:18:35] <tibyke> ah, even my cli doesn't list anything 1.3 as supported: gnutls-cli 3.5.18[16:19:32] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:19:32] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[16:19:34] <tibyke> lunaphyte, do you have an 1.3 aware postfix install?[16:29:10] <rob0> I presume the real goal might be something like "to deliver mail to a certain site which demands TLS 1.3"? If so,[16:29:22] <rob0> !smtpd!=smtp[16:29:22] <knoba> rob0: Postfix smtpd_* and smtp_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtpd_ = server and smtp_ = client, the server-side receives mail whilst the client-side sends mail. (smtpd = server = receives mail) (smtp = client = sends mail)[16:29:47] <rob0> smtpd_tls_protocols won't affect smtp.[16:30:38] <tibyke> nothing specific, just wondering if my scenario is (or could be) TLS v1.3 aware[16:30:46] <rob0> That said, if you leave all those TLS settings alone, Postfix and openssl will use/offer the best protocols & ciphers they can do.[16:31:19] <n_1-c_k> tibyke, my logs show smtp and smtpd using TLSv1.3 from time to time.[16:31:49] <tibyke> my one keeps saying TLSv1.2, even for google. I will make some deeper jump then :) thx![16:32:11] <rob0> (And there's nothing wrong with messing around with *_tls_mandatory_protocols as long as your users/partners are aware of the limitations which are set.)[16:32:57] <tibyke> I have SSL* disabled, TLS* disabled, only TLSv1.2 (and now TLSv1.3 enabled)[16:35:49] <rob0> very bad to do that on port 25, smtpd_tls_protocols[16:36:56] <rob0> That means if an old, unmaintained client connects and wants to use one of the protocols you deemed "bad", it will have to fall back to plaintext, no TLS at all.[16:44:54] <lunaphyte> following misguided "how to secure your postfix" tutorials is not a good idea[16:45:09] <lunaphyte> way too many people think that the www and the internet are the same thing, sadly[16:53:13] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@128.127.104.80> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:53:31] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@128.127.104.80> has joined #postfix[16:54:16] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:56:50] *** haydenh <haydenh!~haydenh@85.211.110.103> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:58:30] *** azwieg103 <azwieg103!~Thunderbi@66-168-56-10.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com> has joined #postfix[17:09:00] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:25:03] *** imcdona <imcdona!~imcdona@65-100-46-166.dia.static.qwest.net> has joined #postfix[17:27:46] <imcdona> I have postfix acting as an SMTP firewall in front of a pair of fax servers. When people send faxes via email they want to know right away if the fax was sent or not. To that end I thought I'd use "maximal_queue_lifetime=60s" That way if the fax server is unavail for some reason the sender will get an NDR right away. Problem is, Postfix isn't sending an NDR when the fax server is down. The message is sitting there in queue[17:27:46] <imcdona> regardless of what I'd set for maximal_queue_lifetime[17:29:26] <imcdona> I'm not even sure if maximal_queue_lifetime is the correct way to go about this. The other thought I had is that this will also affect NDR's being sent to the fax sender...if their MTA is unreachable I'm only going to queue that NDR for 60 seconds max[17:29:39] <rob0> IIRC maximal_queue_lifetime only kicks in on the first RETRY[17:30:19] <imcdona> That would make sense. 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