January 24, 2020 
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I'm receiving spam mail to my own domain's info@ address, from the same address of mine. How can I prevent that? Thank you.[07:18:25] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[07:20:30] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@187.211.1.108> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[07:31:43] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[07:45:39] *** aniketh <aniketh!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nmlbanjucpgzszzf> has joined #postfix[07:48:19] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:49:09] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[07:49:41] <rudi_s> deksar: If the envelope sender is from your domain you can use $smtpd_sender_restrictions with check_sender_access and REJECT these mails.[07:52:07] <rudi_s> Or you could use milters/smptd_proxy for other pre-queue filtering; see the docs for that.[07:52:32] <rudi_s> *this pre-queue filtering could also be performed in combination with a spam filter[08:02:21] *** lilmike <lilmike!~server@mtserver.mwtd.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in)[08:02:51] *** lilmike <lilmike!~server@mtserver.mwtd.net> has joined #postfix[08:05:09] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[08:17:57] *** deksar <deksar!58e52ad8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.229.42.216> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:21:20] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[08:32:01] *** deksar <deksar!58e52ad8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.229.42.216> has joined #postfix[08:36:27] *** deksar <deksar!58e52ad8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.229.42.216> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[08:37:52] *** deksar <deksar!~deksar@unaffiliated/deksar> has joined #postfix[08:39:10] *** petan <petan!~g@wikimedia/Petrb> has joined #postfix[08:40:14] *** FH_thecat <FH_thecat!~FH_thecat@75.11.25.212.ftth.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:42:34] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[08:46:08] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[08:49:33] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[08:54:42] *** jalalsfs_ is now known as jalalsfs[08:59:47] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[09:00:23] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:12:16] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:12:20] *** HumanGeek <HumanGeek!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:19:00] *** d3lphi <d3lphi!~d3lphi@unaffiliated/d3lphi> has joined #postfix[09:20:53] <d3lphi> hi all. I am using a sender_access file at the beginning of smtpd_sender_restrictions and there is listed the domain "example.tld REJECT". But I want a single exception that means, I want to receive emails normally only when sender=foo at example dot tld and recipient=bar at mydom dot tld Is that possible somehow?[09:22:17] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:23:40] *** bookworm <bookworm!~reto@unaffiliated/reto> has quit IRC ()[09:25:46] *** bookworm <bookworm!~reto@unaffiliated/reto> has joined #postfix[09:28:33] *** kakv <kakv!uid415068@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cvzqdguylzpnmpxw> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:30:18] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:48bc:bfff:feb7:af31> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[09:36:20] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:47:05] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:47:31] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:47:31] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[09:55:34] *** tachoknight_ <tachoknight_!~tachoknig@205.178.20.7> has joined #postfix[09:58:37] *** tachoknight <tachoknight!~tachoknig@205.178.20.7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:41:26] <d3lphi> hi all. I am already using a sender_access file at the beginning of smtpd_sender_restrictions because I want domain "example.tld REJECT".But now I need a exception for that rule: incoming mails from sender=foo at example dot tld and recipient=bar at mydom dot tld should be allowed.Alternatively if this is not possible ...[10:42:24] <d3lphi> ... I could also be satisfied with "sender=foo at example dot tld" AND "it came from host several.mtalist.tld". How can I do this ?[11:12:40] *** sk_tandt <sk_tandt!~sk_tandt@net-5-88-141-17.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #postfix[11:18:51] <mitrax> when my postfix install relays an email (from an authenticated sender) it seems to fail if the remote smtp doesn't allow TLS, though i have smtp_tls_security_level set to 'may', shouldn't it fallback to clear text if there's no STARTTLS on the remote side?[11:32:35] *** twisted` <twisted`!sid6794@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwtqrfgsuofbmacf> has quit IRC ()[11:33:17] *** twisted` <twisted`!sid6794@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dwktkyhkfnkdtelp> has joined #postfix[11:44:43] *** vetru is now known as eagle[11:46:14] *** eagle is now known as iolar[11:47:01] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #postfix[11:56:09] *** iolar is now known as vetru[12:08:43] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[12:19:26] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[12:29:19] <mitrax> hmm nevermind it seems to switch to clear text on the second try[12:31:21] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[13:20:11] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has joined #postfix[13:20:35] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:26:28] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:1748:fad4:7260:f0e9:d975:40be:29eb> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:27:07] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:1748:fad4:7260:c989:a638:2673:b205> has joined #postfix[13:33:37] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[13:34:07] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:45:16] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:47:26] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[13:58:09] *** foxcpp <foxcpp!~foxcpp@foxcpp.dev> has quit IRC (Quit: Looks like my relay decided to commit suicide)[14:00:45] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[14:03:19] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:05:12] *** foxcpp <foxcpp!~foxcpp@foxcpp.dev> has joined #postfix[14:05:16] *** EulogyJones <EulogyJones!~EulogyJon@142.93.252.229> has quit IRC (Quit: EulogyJones)[14:06:08] *** EulogyJones <EulogyJones!~EulogyJon@142.93.252.229> has joined #postfix[14:15:53] <mitrax> when a remote smtp tries to deliver a mail to my postfix to a valid user i get fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms, though delivery works fine to the same recipient through the submission port, should i explicitely disable sasl in master.cf for the "smtp" service? submission has some -o smtpd_xxx options and smtp has nothing[14:16:45] <mitrax> or do the settings defined in main.cf applies when none is defined explicitely in master.cf?[14:24:26] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has joined #postfix[14:27:05] <lunaphyte> mitrax: smtp auth should not be offered for mx service. only encryption should be offered[14:28:01] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has joined #postfix[14:28:28] <lunaphyte> so in other words, the other way around. smtp auth should be disabled in main.cf, and enabled only for the submission[s] service[14:29:09] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[14:29:20] <mitrax> yeah i've just realized that now, didn't pay attention that i accidentaly set it to enable in main.cf and that those settings were inherited if not explicitely defined in master.cf (which makes sense)[14:29:35] <mitrax> thanks[14:31:00] <lunaphyte> sure thing[14:31:42] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.79.161.173> has joined #postfix[14:31:47] <d3lphi> hi all. I am already using a sender_access file at the beginning of smtpd_sender_restrictions because I want domain "example.tld REJECT".But now I need a exception for that rule: incoming mails from sender=foo at example dot tld and recipient=bar at mydom dot tld should be allowed.Alternatively instruct "sender=foo at example dot tld" AND "from hostname.some.thing". How?[14:34:11] <lunaphyte> why are you doing this? spam?[14:39:21] <d3lphi> example.tld is my own domain.I have implemented NOT to allow mails with from=<* at mydomain dot tld> additionally to my existing SPF/DKIM/DMARC policys.But I have one single address that I need to allow from a certain hostname.[14:40:32] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:46:15] *** immae <immae!~immae@immae.eu> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[14:46:20] *** plantroon <plantroon!~plantroon@91.236.69.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:47:23] *** plantroon <plantroon!~plantroon@91.236.69.232> has joined #postfix[14:52:02] *** immae <immae!~immae@immae.eu> has joined #postfix[14:57:27] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[14:58:08] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:02:37] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[15:02:39] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:21:25] *** EulogyJones <EulogyJones!~EulogyJon@142.93.252.229> has quit IRC (Quit: EulogyJones)[15:22:11] *** kakv <kakv!uid415068@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mwjqwkzwjwwmgdlj> has joined #postfix[15:23:13] *** EulogyJones <EulogyJones!~EulogyJon@142.93.252.229> has joined #postfix[15:29:21] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-133-184.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[15:35:28] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[15:35:57] <tuxick> how much did you pay for example.tld?[15:36:05] <tuxick> i'll give you $100 for it![15:39:58] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:40:04] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:40:27] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[15:55:20] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[15:59:13] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:59:15] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:02:27] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[16:06:03] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: nsegkos)[16:07:56] *** tux0r <tux0r!~tux0r@host-64-47-44-1.masergy.com> has joined #postfix[16:08:22] *** tux0r <tux0r!~tux0r@host-64-47-44-1.masergy.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:08:25] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[16:12:08] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:12:09] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[16:16:31] *** ntnlzr <ntnlzr!~ntnlzer@pix.gsy.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:52:19] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[16:53:53] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has joined #postfix[16:54:13] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:54:16] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:54:16] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[16:58:11] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:17:37] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[17:21:40] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@91.67.166.11> has joined #postfix[17:23:32] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@91.67.166.11> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:27:23] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:640:e00:48bc:bfff:feb7:af31> has joined #postfix[17:51:15] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@dhcp-108-168-13-54.cable.user.start.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:52:26] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@dhcp-108-168-13-54.cable.user.start.ca> has joined #postfix[17:56:45] *** deksar <deksar!~deksar@unaffiliated/deksar> has quit IRC (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com))[18:06:25] *** sk_tandt <sk_tandt!~sk_tandt@net-5-88-141-17.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:08:06] *** BiggTimber <BiggTimber!~quassel@50-203-220-130-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[18:10:12] *** slave_blocker <slave_blocker!~slave_blo@x590c157d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #postfix[18:18:03] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[18:19:58] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.79.161.173> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:20:27] *** tokudan <tokudan!~tokudan@freya.besaid.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Dunno.)[18:23:59] *** tokudan <tokudan!~tokudan@freya.besaid.de> has joined #postfix[18:24:51] *** tokudan <tokudan!~tokudan@freya.besaid.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:25:36] *** tokudan <tokudan!~tokudan@freya.besaid.de> has joined #postfix[18:28:56] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-133-184.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Quit: rsx)[18:40:08] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@93-103-57-197.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #postfix[19:03:26] <d3lphi> tuxick: ok,give me please[19:03:28] <d3lphi> :D[19:04:57] <rob0> !restriction_class[19:04:57] <knoba> rob0: postfix per-client/user/etc. access control http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html[19:13:04] <d3lphi> rob0: thank you. Will dive into it![19:22:01] <rob0> bring some aspirin along ;)[19:27:10] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@46.173.197.56> has joined #postfix[19:42:15] *** mtcdood <mtcdood!~mtcdood@unaffiliated/mtcdood> has joined #postfix[19:42:35] <mtcdood> how does Postfix define allowed interfaces when setting "inet_interface = loopback-only" ?[19:42:44] <mtcdood> is it anything under 127.0.0.0/8?[19:45:39] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@46.173.197.56> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[19:48:28] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[19:49:42] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[19:50:38] <lunaphyte> the documentation states "loopback network interfaces only"[19:50:46] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:50:53] <lunaphyte> so that would be addresses assign to loopback interfaces[19:51:14] <lunaphyte> *assigned[19:51:15] <lunaphyte> why, do you see a different behavior?[19:52:10] *** aniketh <aniketh!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nmlbanjucpgzszzf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[19:54:28] <mtcdood> no I was just having a conversation with someone and they identified that addresses other than 127.0.0.1 will work ok, that explanation you gave makes sense[20:07:00] <rob0> any locally-bound interface would be reached via loopback.[20:08:02] <rob0> also, if you have "inet_interfaces = loopback-only" you probably don't need to be running Postfix at all,[20:08:08] <rob0> !nullclient[20:08:08] <knoba> rob0: a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[20:15:54] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:16:20] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[20:58:27] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@93-103-57-197.dynamic.t-2.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:00:25] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@93-103-57-197.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #postfix[21:08:07] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:12:58] *** slave_blocker <slave_blocker!~slave_blo@x590c157d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[21:13:12] *** slave_blocker <slave_blocker!~slave_blo@x590c157d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #postfix[21:16:03] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:18:29] *** neo5 <neo5!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[21:19:14] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:19:15] *** neo5 is now known as neo4[21:19:39] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:19:39] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[21:20:02] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:20:03] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@host86-130-45-171.range86-130.btcentralplus.com> has joined #postfix[21:23:35] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[21:28:56] *** exs <exs!~rs@77-64-176-138.dynamic.primacom.net> has joined #postfix[21:29:03] <exs> hi[21:29:05] <exs> a question[21:29:22] <exs> when I send mails to a gmail account via postfix it shows a red badged that my mail is not encrypted. any idea how to solve it?[21:29:51] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #postfix[21:29:53] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[21:30:09] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #postfix[21:31:26] <rob0> possibly enable client TLS,[21:31:30] <rob0> !tls[21:31:31] <knoba> rob0: Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). Previously known as SSL, TLS adds a layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, submission, IMAP or POP3 to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS can be implemented using a direct TLS connection (see !submissions) or the STARTTLS method. See http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info.[21:32:41] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[21:32:52] <exs> rob0: you mean with client like thunderbird?[21:34:10] <rob0> !smtp[21:34:11] <knoba> rob0: Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) is an Internet standard for electronic mail (email) transmission. First defined by RFC 821 in 1982, it was last updated in 2008 with Extended SMTP additions by RFC 5321, which is the protocol in widespread use today. See !esmtp[21:34:17] <rob0> uh,[21:35:03] <rob0> I mean with Postfix's smtp(8), since you are asking here, I thought you were asking about Postfix.[21:35:16] <rob0> !smtp!=smtpd[21:35:17] <knoba> rob0: Postfix smtp_* and smtpd_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtp_ = client and smtpd_ = server, the client-side sends mail whilst the server-side receives mail. (smtp = client = sends mail) (smtpd = server = receives mail)[21:40:15] <exs> I use submission for sending[21:40:23] <exs> and as long I know TLS is enabled[21:43:15] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:43:30] <rob0> Again. You probably want to enable ***CLIENT*** TLS.[21:43:45] <rob0> !smtp_tls_security_level[21:43:46] <knoba> rob0: The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[21:44:17] <rob0> An MTA is both client (smtp) and server (smtpd).[21:58:56] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:01:10] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[22:03:48] *** slave_blocker <slave_blocker!~slave_blo@x590c157d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:11:00] <exs> rob0: adding smtp_tls_security_level = may remove the red badged and made it grey, is there a problem if I add the highest security level secure or verify to enforce encryption? maybe it should be default[22:17:31] <petn-randall> exs: Other than a lot of mail not being delivered and bounced back to you, you'll probably have no issues.[22:17:50] <rob0> yes, no. Some sites might not offer TLS, or it might be broken.[22:17:51] <petn-randall> (meaning you shouldn't set that)[22:19:06] <rob0> it won't ever be the default setting, until a new protocol is created. Don't hold your breath waiting for that.[22:20:10] <rob0> ("may" might eventually be considered as a default, I suppose.)[22:20:43] <rob0> ("encrypt" and up, no way.)[22:20:56] <mtcdood> I've tried several nullmailers and none actually work with my provider[22:21:41] <mtcdood> msmtp leaves the From blank when running from Cron and nullmailer doesn't change the From hostname so I'd have to name any system using it to the domain.tld of my email configuration at the provider[22:22:10] <mtcdood> both fail because the provider obviously won't relay stuff for From: email addresses not configured on its send[22:22:51] <rob0> hmm, you should be able to configure those to use a real sender address.[22:24:50] <mtcdood> I'd think so too[22:24:54] <mtcdood> but not for Cron[22:25:02] <mtcdood> it's specifically a Cron issue for some reason[22:25:09] <mtcdood> but that's offtopic here[22:25:26] <mtcdood> and Postfix, although overkill and something I wanted to avoid, does technically work fine[22:48:24] *** mtcdood <mtcdood!~mtcdood@unaffiliated/mtcdood> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:53:49] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[23:03:30] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has joined #postfix[23:07:27] <exs> petn-randall: what would be the best setting? may?[23:12:06] <petn-randall> exs: may or encrypt are sensible settings, anything else is a bit crazy for an outgoing MTA.[23:12:33] <petn-randall> exs: If you set it to "encrypt" you might get DSNs, I didn't get any issues yet.[23:15:05] *** Human_G33k <Human_G33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[23:18:52] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:21:07] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:23:03] *** bma-mig <bma-mig!6d1aa84a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.26.168.74> has joined #postfix[23:30:48] <bma-mig> !welcome[23:30:48] <knoba> bma-mig: Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![23:32:57] *** bma-mig <bma-mig!6d1aa84a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.26.168.74> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:43:21] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:49:24] <exs> does someone know how to add the green padlock badge from gmail? currently I have only  Standard encryption (TLS) Learn more[23:49:35] <exs> I want it for better opening rates[23:56:59] <petn-randall> exs: ask google when they award a green padlock.[23:57:20] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@host86-130-45-171.range86-130.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[23:57:38] *** bma-mig <bma-mig!b9ee27f8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.238.39.248> has joined #postfix[23:59:39] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: nsegkos)[23:59:45] *** BiggTimber <BiggTimber!~quassel@50-203-220-130-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)