January 20, 2020 
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*** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@k2.ilion.info> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:50:21] *** JPT <JPT!~jpt@classified.name> has joined #postfix[04:56:48] <pj> @nullclient_software[04:56:50] <pj> !nullclient_software[04:56:50] <knoba> pj: a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa[05:17:08] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[05:18:29] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:24:30] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has joined #postfix[05:28:08] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:00:22] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC 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<deksar!~deksar@unaffiliated/deksar> has joined #postfix[07:31:39] <deksar> Good morning. Since I activated Cloudflare for my vps, I'm having troubles connecting to my mailserver in it. (All the DNS records are ok). /var/log/maillog has the following line: mail postfix/smtp[13264]: connect to mail.zrkhosting.com[104.27.xx.xx]:25: Operation timed out (That's the IP address of Cloudflare proxy - not my VPS', however I do have my mail.mydomain.com defined in /etc/hosts, also I added /etc/resolv.conf "file lookup bind", but[07:31:39] <deksar> still, it seems postfix somehow points my mail.mydomain.com to Cloudflare's IP *locally* in the same server. Any idea?[07:33:45] <deksar> P.S: issuing the command ping mail.zrkhosting.com also points to 127.0.0.1 locally.[07:58:11] <pj> !tell deksar smtp_host_lookup[07:58:12] <knoba> deksar: a configuration parameter in the main.cf: What mechanisms when the SMTP client uses to look up a host's IP address. This parameter is ignored when DNS lookups are disabled.[07:59:02] <pj> deksar: by default postfix does direct DNS lookups so it will not check /etc/hosts entries. If you change that you will likely have other issues, though.[08:00:23] <deksar> Ah, got it![08:01:13] <pj> the issue is that your system's gethostbyname() service does not resolve MX entries.[08:01:19] <deksar> Changed the A record of the MX, from orange cloud to gray cloud, and the problem has solved. Also had "this record exposes your origin IP" after setting it so, that was expected. That's it..[08:01:48] <deksar> pj: Is that the normal act of the system, or?[08:02:55] <pj> well, that would be the system function that programs are expected to use to do DNS name lookups. But it's pretty much limited to looking up the IP of a host and it doesn't know about MX records.[08:03:24] <pj> it doesn't know, for example, to do an MX lookup on gmail.com before doing an A lookup on the result of that.[08:03:48] <deksar> I see.. Indeed, A record -> MX. Got it now! Really useful info and answers, thank you guys pj and knoba for your time![08:03:59] <pj> !knoba[08:03:59] <knoba> pj: an informational bot in this channel (see http://workaround.org/f=postfix)[08:14:13] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[08:18:33] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[08:19:51] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[08:28:10] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[08:29:17] *** linex <linex!~quassel@mxroads.cmsroads.com> has joined #postfix[08:33:38] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[08:51:01] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[08:52:57] *** cromag <cromag!~cromag@irssi/user/cromag> has joined #postfix[08:56:16] *** Slydder <Slydder!~chuck@46.30.112.131> has joined #postfix[09:05:19] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[09:06:21] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:29:58] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:31:19] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[09:32:48] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:33:17] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[10:03:32] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:17:33] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:18:00] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[10:18:04] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[10:23:05] *** mikami <mikami!~scurfee@mail.dveriunion.ru> has quit IRC ()[10:30:25] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:30:38] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has joined #postfix[10:43:22] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:43:41] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has joined #postfix[10:44:36] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:44:43] *** Barnerd_ <Barnerd_!~Barnerd@freebsd/developer/barnerd> has joined #postfix[10:44:46] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has joined #postfix[10:46:15] *** Barnerd <Barnerd!~Barnerd@freebsd/developer/barnerd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:46:45] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:47:04] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has joined #postfix[10:47:07] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:49:20] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has joined #postfix[10:52:49] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.54.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:55:56] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has joined #postfix[11:01:44] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:02:03] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[12:17:09] *** echoSMILE <echoSMILE!~censured@unaffiliated/echosmile> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:20:15] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@k2.ilion.info> has joined #postfix[12:29:04] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[13:01:42] *** sehh <sehh!~sehh@unaffiliated/sehh> has joined #postfix[13:01:58] <sehh> hey there[13:02:20] <sehh> is there a way to make postfix to decode base64 headers when passing them to header_checks?[13:15:58] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has joined #postfix[13:19:02] <Kelsar> why should a header be base64 encoded?[13:25:12] <sep> Kelsar, internationalization[13:25:26] <Kelsar> in headers?[13:25:27] <sehh> because its within the spec? for example Content-Disposition may specify an attached filename with UTF-8 characters encoded in base64. Unfortunately header_checks is unable to perform a match on the actual name of the file, only on the raw base64 string, which is defeats the purpose of the check.[13:26:01] <sehh> /which is/which/s[13:26:37] <Kelsar> but that is in the body, isn't it?[13:27:19] *** ruel <ruel!~ruel@unaffiliated/lvlinux> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:27:42] *** ephemer0l <ephemer0l!~ephemer0l@pentoo/user/ephemer0l> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:27:55] <immae> no Kelsar it can happen in headers (Subject for instance) when they have non-ascii chars, in which case they need to be correctly escaped. You certainly already encountered Subjects of the form "=?utf-8?b?blabla" before, didn’t you?[13:28:30] <Kelsar> immae: ok subject, that is one[13:28:51] <immae> any header can be escaped like that[13:28:58] <Kelsar> didn't know that[13:29:14] *** mz` <mz`!~mz@gandi/mz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:29:27] <immae> All headers need to be ascii (I think, not sure), so any header that has non-ascii char should be escaped[13:30:35] *** lvlinux <lvlinux!~ruel@unaffiliated/lvlinux> has joined #postfix[13:31:11] <sehh> I thought there would be a option to enable this but I can't seem to find anything...[13:31:58] *** mz` <mz`!~mz@gandi/mz> has joined #postfix[13:37:45] <immae> I guess you’ll have to adapt your regexes to handle base64/quoted-printable versions sehh (note that it may be very hard depending on the string you’re matching)[13:38:29] <immae> I searched unsuccessfully on google, but if you want to look by yourself, you could include "RFC 1342" in your search, that’s the RFC that defines this format[13:38:30] <sehh> regex can't decode base64[13:38:42] <immae> it cannot decode, but you can match the base64 version[13:40:00] <immae> (which may not be unique in the middle of the string, you can have up to 4 "base64 strings" to match, that’s why I said it could be very hard)[13:41:59] <sehh> that is rather the wrong way to do it, I would have to keep a decoded list of strings in UTF-8 and also their equivalent in base64 and regularly update both, in order to make a change to postfix header_checks[13:42:30] <sehh> maybe postfix should have the option to decode headers?[13:42:55] <immae> Maybe it should yes, but it seems like it doesn’t have it, so either you can implement it or you need to workaround[13:43:09] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #postfix[13:44:21] <immae> Ah it’s actually in the Bugs section of man header_checks, so I guess a fix PR would be welcome :p[13:44:29] <sehh> would it be worth asking about it as a feature request? some open source projects are quite open to feature requests[13:44:36] <sehh> oh[13:44:41] <sehh> let me take a look[13:46:35] <sehh> well[13:47:22] <sehh> further down on that man page, they give an example with Content-Disposition and file extensions... which of course is garbage because it won't make base64 filenames...[13:48:25] <sehh> /make/match/s[13:48:41] *** deksar <deksar!~deksar@unaffiliated/deksar> has quit IRC (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com))[13:50:40] <sehh> I guess I need an entirely different approach, because even if someone bothered to implement this, it would take 10+ years before it was generally available to CentOS. I will try to do the same thing via a milter.[13:51:31] <immae> it’s up to you there :)[13:54:45] *** sehh <sehh!~sehh@unaffiliated/sehh> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:14:25] *** kakv <kakv!uid415068@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpzcojaxflwordtu> has joined #postfix[14:21:58] *** wowas <wowas!~wowas@projekte.imos.net> has joined #postfix[14:22:00] <wowas> Hello![14:22:23] <wowas> how can i redirect mail from a specific sender via a diffrent relay host?[14:26:58] <tuxick> makes me wonder why[14:27:41] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@99.133.184.129> has joined #postfix[14:37:59] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: nsegkos)[14:38:14] *** nsegkos <nsegkos!~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-113-54.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #postfix[14:39:00] *** deksar <deksar!~deksar@unaffiliated/deksar> has joined #postfix[14:44:39] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@72.12.70.165> has joined #postfix[14:46:12] <lunaphyte> wowas: what's the actual problem you're trying to solve?[14:51:14] *** jamiejackson <jamiejackson!d03a471f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.208.58.71.31> has joined #postfix[14:57:27] <wowas> i have someone who sends a lot of crap, but i am not allowed to block him completly. I would like to route him over our poor rated smtp relay server where i just dont care.[14:58:37] <vetru> You could achieve that by changing that specific users DNS settings.[14:59:14] <vetru> But there seems to be another problem, that would be a non-technical fix, you should address.[15:00:37] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in)[15:02:12] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has joined #postfix[15:10:36] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:11:14] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[15:18:21] *** Slydder <Slydder!~chuck@46.30.112.131> has left #postfix[15:24:55] <lunaphyte> !tell wowas sender_dependent_relayhost_maps[15:24:55] <knoba> wowas: a configuration directive in main.cf for sender based message routing. See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#sender_dependent_relayhost_maps[15:25:23] <lunaphyte> warning - do not do that for a public facing service, without authentication[15:27:20] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:29:01] *** ephemer0l_ <ephemer0l_!~ephemer0l@pentoo/user/ephemer0l> has joined #postfix[15:31:51] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[15:33:07] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[15:36:51] *** NonFree <NonFree!NonFree@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/jasjar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:50:38] *** nutron <nutron!~nutron@unaffiliated/nutron> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:51:10] *** nutron <nutron!~nutron@unaffiliated/nutron> has joined #postfix[15:51:42] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@72.12.70.165> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[15:54:00] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@72.12.70.165> has joined #postfix[16:03:04] *** ntnlzr <ntnlzr!~ntnlzer@pix.gsy.it> has joined #postfix[16:03:22] *** dsockwell <dsockwell!~dsockwell@mnemonic.hightechlow.life> has joined #postfix[16:03:26] *** dsockwell <dsockwell!~dsockwell@mnemonic.hightechlow.life> has left #postfix ("WeeChat 2.3")[16:05:02] *** Koopz <Koopz!~Koopz@koopz.rocks> has joined #postfix[16:05:43] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@128.127.104.80> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:06:01] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@128.127.104.80> has joined #postfix[16:08:38] <Koopz> i'm trying to optimize postscreen_dnsbl_sites but have yet to figure out how the scoring works. According to the docs the weighting get's added to whatever score a blacklist returns but i can't find any information on what score is getting returned. Is the return code meant? In case the blacklist returns 127.0.0.4 is it a score of 4? and due to lac[16:08:38] <Koopz> k of weighting it becomes a 5 because "When there's no weighting a 1 is being added to the score"?[16:10:41] <lunaphyte> did you read postscreen_readme and see the documentation for postscreen_dnsbl_sites? it describes how the scoring works[16:11:01] *** blackmajic <blackmajic!~black@2605:6400:20:c43:ad99:60a7:cce7:be1> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:11:06] <Koopz> yes i did[16:11:23] <Koopz> otherwise i wouldn't know that the score gets added and not multiplied[16:11:50] <Koopz> there is no information on the "score returned by the blacklist" though[16:17:05] <lunaphyte> where do you see "added to whatever score a blacklist returns"?[16:17:33] <lunaphyte> dnsbl listing are boolean. true or false[16:20:13] <Koopz> When no "*weight" is specified, postscreen(8) increments the remote SMTP client's DNSBL score by 1[16:20:23] <Koopz> true + 1 = 2?[16:20:29] <lunaphyte> no[16:20:38] <Koopz> true = 0[16:20:49] <Koopz> + 1 (default[16:21:19] <lunaphyte> that is just saying that the default score is 1. that's all[16:21:30] <lunaphyte> "weight" = "score"[16:21:41] <lunaphyte> each are the synonym for the other[16:21:47] *** neo4 <neo4!~Thunderbi@212-247-92-178.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[16:22:17] <Koopz> good to know, why don't the docs say that?[16:22:22] <lunaphyte> they do[16:22:53] <Koopz> they say the weightings are being ADDED to the score but there's not a single mention of what the initial score is[16:23:19] <lunaphyte> huh? the initial score is zero[16:23:41] <Koopz> do you see any mention of that?[16:26:06] *** NonFree <NonFree!NonFree@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/jasjar> has joined #postfix[16:29:09] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:30:13] <lunaphyte> i'm not sure. you could always submit a patch if you wanted, or ask wietse to add something and see what he says[16:31:06] *** blackmajic <blackmajic!~black@mail.justla.me> has joined #postfix[16:33:07] <Koopz> you would agree with me though that without knowing this, reading http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#postscreen_dnsbl_sites is majorly confusing and leads you to believe the initial score could be something different than 0[16:34:06] <Koopz> why say that the weighting gets added to a score when you could simply say "the weighting IS the score in case of a positive hit"[16:34:44] <lunaphyte> it's never occurred to me that the initial score would ever have been anything other than 0[16:35:37] <lunaphyte> so for me, the documentation was fine, albeit the use of both weight and score terms could perhaps be improved[16:35:43] <lunaphyte> but that's inconsequential[16:35:52] <lunaphyte> "majorly confusing"? 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