January 16, 2020 
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What are you guys using for a vacation/out of office autoresponder?[03:47:26] *** pinPoint <pinPoint!~pinPoint@about/windows/regular/pinpoint> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:48:29] <pj> aero-224: either vacation that comes with postfixadmin or dovecot sieve.[03:52:24] *** nyov is now known as Guest10041[03:52:24] *** Guest10041 <Guest10041!~nyov@unaffiliated/nyov> has quit IRC (Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[03:52:32] *** nyov <nyov!~nyov@unaffiliated/nyov> has joined #postfix[03:55:59] <aero-224> Thank you[04:02:51] *** thansen <thansen!~thansen@192.74.130.86> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[04:05:56] *** thansen <thansen!~thansen@192.74.130.86> has joined #postfix[04:16:58] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye cruel world!)[04:22:38] *** twisted` <twisted`!sid6794@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mftojyccvgglxrfn> has joined #postfix[04:22:38] *** twisted` <twisted`!sid6794@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mftojyccvgglxrfn> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[04:40:57] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[05:11:18] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:14:50] *** steveeJ <steveeJ!sid321023@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhmlslaaeaoanhza> has joined #postfix[05:17:47] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has joined #postfix[05:19:22] *** steveeJ <steveeJ!sid321023@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhmlslaaeaoanhza> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:20:02] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:20:45] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[05:33:19] *** steveeJ <steveeJ!sid321023@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eojbzkqkonuzuljo> has joined #postfix[05:38:25] *** steveeJ <steveeJ!sid321023@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eojbzkqkonuzuljo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[05:45:39] *** johnny56 <johnny56!johnny56@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:49:46] *** johnny56 <johnny56!johnny56@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/johnny56> has joined #postfix[05:59:08] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:03:58] *** tyzoid <tyzoid!~tyzoid@archlinux32/developer/tyzoid> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:06:27] *** tyzoid <tyzoid!~tyzoid@archlinux32/developer/tyzoid> has joined #postfix[06:22:29] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@104.129.194.54> has quit IRC (Quit: eramirez)[06:24:27] *** johnny56 <johnny56!johnny56@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:27:05] *** johnny56 <johnny56!johnny56@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/johnny56> has joined #postfix[07:01:15] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@104.129.194.61> has joined #postfix[07:13:17] *** pinPoint <pinPoint!~pinPoint@about/windows/regular/pinpoint> has joined #postfix[07:43:24] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[07:46:48] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[07:51:29] *** e38383 <e38383!sid141844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abraxpdylyhrcpju> has joined #postfix[07:56:08] *** gvvg_ <gvvg_!sid188075@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-htufyieuvaywxgjo> has joined #postfix[07:58:33] *** twisted` <twisted`!sid6794@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwtqrfgsuofbmacf> has joined #postfix[08:01:46] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[08:02:43] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[08:03:48] *** bgupta <bgupta!sid299105@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uivmylaoejgqizmp> has joined #postfix[08:05:18] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@dhcp-108-168-13-54.cable.user.start.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:06:22] *** DanFromUK <DanFromUK!sid21651@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uccssqwurbsuaikb> has joined #postfix[08:12:38] *** steveeJ <steveeJ!sid321023@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jxdxslcbfgftcykz> has joined #postfix[08:12:53] *** necrogami <necrogami!sid211237@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fnnhrsjiuionebjl> has joined #postfix[08:14:23] *** wowas <wowas!~wowas@projekte.imos.net> has joined #postfix[08:18:51] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@dhcp-108-168-13-54.cable.user.start.ca> has joined #postfix[08:19:34] *** deksar <deksar!~deksar@unaffiliated/deksar> has joined #postfix[08:21:33] *** klow <klow!sid213056@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpfafavocygxnglo> has joined #postfix[08:24:59] *** SpiceMan <SpiceMan!~SpiceMan@unaffiliated/spiceman> has joined #postfix[08:27:44] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[08:27:48] <SpiceMan> uhm. I'm getting a lot of "postfix/smtpd[25534]: lost connection after CONNECT from $OUR_OFFICE_IP" today (and people are randomly being unable to send mails)[08:27:52] <SpiceMan> what should I check? :)[08:36:18] <SpiceMan> \o/ warning: Connection concurrency limit exceeded: 51. statistics: max connection rate 991/60s for $OFFICE_IP. easy enough. thanks for your(?) help.[08:39:41] <SpiceMan> uhm. smtpd_client_connection_count_limit -> "How many simultaneous connections any client is allowed to make to this service."[08:39:44] <SpiceMan> client == IP in here?[08:52:27] *** Slydder <Slydder!~chuck@46.30.112.131> has joined #postfix[08:57:42] *** K1rk <K1rk!~K1rk@bnc.pwnz.me> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[09:03:28] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[09:03:37] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[09:05:11] *** K1rk <K1rk!~K1rk@bnc.pwnz.me> has joined #postfix[09:08:40] *** fireglow <fireglow!fireglow@fireglow.su> has left #postfix ("puf")[09:13:45] *** tachoknight <tachoknight!~tachoknig@205.178.20.7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[09:34:19] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:54:58] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:00:56] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[10:29:15] *** Slydder <Slydder!~chuck@46.30.112.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:29:51] *** Slydder <Slydder!~chuck@46.30.112.131> has joined #postfix[10:44:44] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@104.129.194.61> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:46:15] *** aniketh <aniketh!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tqkswyfsbahaboya> has joined #postfix[11:03:13] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:27:59] <deksar> Hello. Using "Maia Mailguard" on Postfix, when I click to "Report Spam" under control panel of Maia, and I check the /var/log/maillog file, nothing is added there. How does it report it, where does it log the process?[11:40:17] <petn-randall> deksar: You'll have to ask the Maia Mailguard support what that button is supposed to do.[11:44:41] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@k2.ilion.info> has joined #postfix[12:16:46] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@74.119.160.41> has joined #postfix[12:18:04] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@74.119.160.41> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:18:43] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@74.119.160.41> has joined #postfix[12:28:11] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@74.119.160.41> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[12:29:53] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@pb-d-128-141-210-93.cern.ch> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:34:53] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@104.129.194.64> has joined #postfix[12:39:49] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[12:40:01] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@104.129.194.64> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:42:42] *** eramirez 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<eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[18:46:11] <BinaryAura> I'm trying to get the emails that I send from my domain binaryaura.net to not automatically go to Outlook/Gmail Spam. https://mxtoolbox.com/domain/binaryaura.net/[18:46:30] <jaybe> !dmarc[18:46:30] <knoba> jaybe: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance": Enforces SPF and DKIM to the From: header via DNS records. You probably don't need DMARC. For more info see https://dmarc.org/[18:46:39] <jaybe> and reputation/time (and not spamming)[18:47:24] <BinaryAura> Will Gmail/Outlook send emails from domains that it doesn't recognize to spam?[18:48:00] <BinaryAura> I added DMARC because I had the problem before.[18:48:38] <jaybe> 46:38] <jaybe> and reputation/time (and not spamming)[18:52:41] <BinaryAura> Would any of the warnings that I currently have from mxtoolbox cause my domain to get flagged as spam?[18:54:04] <rob0> !Deliverability[18:54:05] <knoba> rob0: If you're having problems getting your mail received by major ESPs you should first check your !fcrdns, then make sure you have SPF, DKIM and DMARC configured (see !easy_dmarc). Sign up for the dnswl at http://www.dnswl.org. Also sign up for ESP-specific programs such as feedback loops, Google postmaster tools and Microsoft's SNDS. (Continued in !deliverability2)[18:54:21] <rob0> !Deliverability2[18:54:21] <knoba> rob0: Check the individual postmaster pages for each ESP that you're having problems with to make sure that you're in compliance with all of their policies and if you still have problems contact the support for the ESP. Also check to make sure you're not on any DNSRBLs and submit removal requests from any you appear on. See !multirbl.[18:55:53] <BinaryAura> !fcrdns[18:55:53] <knoba> BinaryAura: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[18:58:52] *** petermolnar <petermolnar!~mail@alia.petermolnar.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[19:01:33] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robson@177.96.49.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:01:56] *** petermolnar <petermolnar!~mail@alia.petermolnar.eu> has joined #postfix[19:02:50] <aadz> "contact the support for the ESP" - does it mean to contant to Gmail support with my own problems? :)[19:05:20] <aadz> sometimes they just start to refuse normal mail messages sent from professionally made mail servers having all required DNS settind and even human read postmaster address[19:05:51] <aadz> it seems to be they how no idea to provide a good mail service at all[19:07:40] <BinaryAura> So mxtoolbox warning: "Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner" is a problem?[19:08:43] <jaybe> see above, again[19:10:17] <BinaryAura> Really, can't answer a yes or no question, I'm trying to confirm understanding.[19:10:34] <aadz> BinaryAura: usually not. Reverse DNS should match A or AAAA record of the host[19:11:06] <BinaryAura> What's dumb is the ISP tacked something to the end.[19:11:36] <aadz> in fact you can host many mail domains and cannot change an SMTP banner per a SMTP client[19:11:44] <rob0> Banner is only seen for inbound connections. To try to infer that it should affect delivery outbound is silly.[19:12:02] <rob0> I'd suggest that you read up a bit on how mail works.[19:12:23] <BinaryAura> suggested reading?[19:12:31] <rob0> Your "yes or no questions" are not so simple.[19:13:25] <rob0> I don't know, maybe wikipedia is a start; I have 20 years of experience and have learned bits and pieces through the years. Still do learn things.[19:13:56] <BinaryAura> ok[19:17:03] <BinaryAura> @aadz My domain seems to have a PTR record to xx-xx-xx-xx.fidnet.com where xx-xx-xx-xx is my ip. I never added this.[19:19:17] <aadz> BinaryAura: Contact to your IST and gently ask to set normal PTR record for your mail server. PTR should meet the hosts' A record (and vice versa)[19:19:58] <aadz> ISP*[19:24:57] <aadz> BinaryAura: If I look for smtp.gmail.com I get IP 74.125.133.109. Lets check direct and reverce DNS fot that host:[19:24:57] <aadz> 109.133.125.74.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer wo-in-f109.1e100.net.[19:24:57] <aadz> wo-in-f109.1e100.net has address 74.125.133.109[19:24:57] <aadz> it seems to be OK![19:26:02] <BinaryAura> They said no.[19:27:25] <aadz> xx-xx-xx-xx.fidnet.com where xx-xx-xx-xx is your ip is definetly not OK! xx-xx-xx-xx.fidnet.com must became your mail server DNS name. Contant to your ISP for that[19:28:19] <BinaryAura> figured. I'm not sure how to fix that since they said no, if I can.[19:28:53] <BinaryAura> Might be something reserved for business customers.[19:29:23] <rob0> oh indeed[19:29:31] <rob0> !vps[19:29:31] <knoba> rob0: A Virtual Private Server is an affordable alternative to running a mailserver at home with a consumer-grade ISP connection. See also !port_25_block and !pbl[19:29:37] <BinaryAura> !vps[19:29:37] <knoba> BinaryAura: A Virtual Private Server is an affordable alternative to running a mailserver at home with a consumer-grade ISP connection. See also !port_25_block and !pbl[19:31:57] *** jamiejackson <jamiejackson!c7df1efe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.199.223.30.254> has joined #postfix[19:33:32] <BinaryAura> I think, I'll pass on that. I'm trying to learn more about running the server and I already have a dedicated box. It's not that important that doesn't go to junk, it's more of a preference and I wanted to know why. If its my setup that's the problem then I'll just deal.[19:39:23] <aadz> BinaryAura: may be they just do not know what PTR record is. Even www.fidnet.com has PTR ser as 216-229-64-111.fidnet.com. :)[19:39:47] <aadz> seems to be not the est ISP for a mail server.[19:39:53] <aadz> best*[19:40:00] <BinaryAura> idk[19:40:25] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robson@177.204.37.251.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #postfix[19:40:25] <BinaryAura> They're are leagues better than the alternative in this town.[19:41:23] <BinaryAura> They should know, but the people you're routed to for tech-support might not.[19:42:14] <BinaryAura> She essentially said that those ips belong to fedility.[19:42:15] <aadz> BinaryAura: forget about a server in fidnet.com network. Just get a VPS from Digital Ocean for example for $10/month and make a server there[19:43:05] <BinaryAura> nah. Like I said it's not that important. If something doesn't work, I want to know why, and that's good enough for me.[19:43:31] <aadz> Fidelity Communication International - yes. But they do not have to know about PTR-records. :)[19:44:22] <BinaryAura> Maybe I'll call them later and try someone on the more technical side than the grunts at the desks.[19:45:34] <aadz> it would be better to write them down, have a ticket number and the discuss it with technical person[19:46:12] <BinaryAura> okay.[19:46:58] <aadz> they will ask you for an email message about PTR in any case, it is not a thing for a phone conversations[19:49:25] <BinaryAura> So, to sum up, my emails are being sent to Junk for 2 reasons: 1. New IP, so the domain has no reputation and 2. this PTR record that doesn't match my A record[19:50:38] <rob0> Quite often dynamic IP space is blocked and/or blacklisted, also.[19:50:47] <rob0> !pnl[19:50:48] <knoba> rob0: I do not know about 'pnl', but I do know about these similar topics: 'pbl', 'phb', 'pine', 'pix', 'pj', 'poll', 'pony', 'pop', 'ptr'[19:50:53] <rob0> !pbl[19:50:54] <knoba> rob0: The Spamhaus PBL is a DNSBL database of end-user IP address ranges which should not be delivering unauthenticated SMTP email to any Internet mail server except those provided for specifically by an ISP for that customer's use. It is part of Zen as well.[19:51:43] <aadz> BinaryAura: do you have a dynamic IP address?[19:51:49] <BinaryAura> mxtoolbox says I'm not. That probably to be all end all though[19:51:52] <BinaryAura> currently[19:52:03] <BinaryAura> It's not much to change that though.[19:52:39] <aadz> is it dynamic?[19:52:42] <BinaryAura> yes[19:53:22] <aadz> Oh! Then forget about may story describing PTR. Mail server is not for you. :([19:53:50] <BinaryAura> So, dynamic is a problem.[19:54:45] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-146-121.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:54:47] <BinaryAura> I only don't because it costs extra and I'm in college.[19:55:11] <BinaryAura> If money weren't an issue it would be static.[19:56:07] <BinaryAura> Is BATV important?[19:56:52] <rob0> Static IP only helps if you can get a custom PTR set, and that means business service or a VPS.[19:58:33] <petn-randall> What is BATV?[19:58:53] <petn-randall> Ah, got it.[19:59:05] <rob0> Big all-terrain vehicles.[19:59:14] <BinaryAura> Bounce Address Tag Validation[20:02:06] *** colona <colona!~colona@grunt.ycc.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting)[20:02:35] *** colona <colona!~colona@grunt.ycc.fr> has joined #postfix[20:10:20] *** jamiejackson <jamiejackson!c7df1efe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.199.223.30.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:12:28] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:13:43] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robson@177.204.37.251.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:20:56] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@46.109.95.214> has joined #postfix[20:32:33] *** Xalys <Xalys!~ircusr@unix.xalys.nl> has joined #postfix[20:33:11] <Xalys> I asked this question before, but lost IRC history. How could I see which TLS version clients used in the past n days to determine if I can phase out TLS v1.0 and TLS v1.1?[20:35:53] <Zerberus> Xalys: "<lunaphyte> in case i was not clear, disabling older versions of tls are not a good idea"[20:36:07] <Xalys> Zerberus: why not?[20:36:30] <Zerberus> Xalys: because the fallback is plain text[20:36:40] <Zerberus> SMTP is not HTTPS[20:37:03] <Xalys> hm[20:37:43] <Zerberus> to just get statistics: smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1[20:38:04] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@74.119.160.41> has joined #postfix[20:39:23] <Xalys> Ah, I see a colleague already enabled that a year ago ....[20:39:33] <Xalys> time for some awking to get percentages[20:42:03] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@74.119.160.41> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:43:19] <Xalys> TLS v1.0 and TLS v1.1 make up 1.33% over one day.[20:45:19] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:46:07] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:46:07] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[20:46:29] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:46:30] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[20:46:51] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:46:53] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[20:47:08] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@128.127.105.184> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[20:47:14] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:47:15] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[20:47:39] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:47:40] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[20:48:33] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@128.127.104.80> has joined #postfix[20:52:53] *** fannagoganna <fannagoganna!uid110488@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wpgkurpxkbijmwmu> has joined #postfix[20:56:04] *** foxxx0 is now known as Spritzgebaeck_[20:56:08] <lunaphyte> for mx service, encryption is OPTIONAL[20:56:10] *** Spritzgebaeck_ is now known as foxxx0[20:56:24] <lunaphyte> understanding what this means is important[20:59:00] *** grossing <grossing!8LEzVYKg1N@pdpc/supporter/silver/grossing> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:00:02] *** grossing <grossing!PTcHQWosjY@pdpc/supporter/silver/grossing> has joined #postfix[21:03:44] *** aniketh <aniketh!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tqkswyfsbahaboya> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:12:52] *** grossing <grossing!PTcHQWosjY@pdpc/supporter/silver/grossing> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:16:16] <rob0> smtpd_tls_loglevel only shows TLS for smtpd, inbound. For outbound, set also[21:16:26] <rob0> !smtp_tls_loglevel[21:16:27] <knoba> rob0: Enable additional Postfix smtp(8) client logging of TLS activity, default 0, 1 is a good operational setting. 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