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[08:32:43] <superlinux> hello.
[08:32:52] <superlinux> good morning from beirut
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[09:56:49] <Xalys> What is '#@[]' for an email addresS?
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[10:02:38] <d3lphi> hi all.What is the best way to protect and fight against CEO/president fake mails ? is that possible to protect simply by certain postfix configurations ?
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[10:05:57] <Xalys> d3lphi: a spam filter
[10:06:00] <tuxick> educate users
[10:23:23] <d3lphi> xalys: tuxick: of course, but that is not enough for this purpose. I mean: is it safe to "REJECT" incoming mails on my MTA that have sender= at mydomain dot tld ? my own users never deliver messages to this MTA through port 25.
[10:27:11] <tuxick> you need a proper spamfilter, bothering with specific cases is a total waste of time
[10:33:06] <d3lphi> tuxick: just imagine I have RSPAMD and I "telnet myMTA 25" and produce a forged/faked sender message. The spam filter will not be effective. That's not the answer to my question
[10:33:52] <d3lphi> if the faked message is "clear" and "new" (=unknown to RSPAMD techniques) it will pass of course
[10:35:43] <tuxick> dunno how that's done in rspamd
[10:36:59] <d3lphi> I am not referring to SPAM as it but to lower level of rejecting messages. Anyone else can provide some helpful answers? is it enough to insert a check_access rule in smtpd_sender block and to REJECT @mydomain.tld ?
[10:51:34] <n_1-c_k> d3lphi, you can use smtpd_sender_restrictions to reject incoming mail with forged envelope-from. Make sure it's only for port 25 not submission. It won't prevent forged header-from though.
[10:52:20] <pj> d3lphi: The problem with rejecting like you are asking happens when you have a user that has the incorrect submission server configured so ends up submitting mail from their account on your domain via another server to someone else at your company. There can also be issues with mailing lists and such.
[10:52:50] <pj> so you can do it, but be prepared for stupid user complaints when their mail is rejected.
[10:54:26] <pj> as far as preventing someone at your_company dot tld from submitting mail as someone_else at your_company dot tld that's a different matter. You can easily force them to use their own envelope sender but it's harder to enforce the From: header.
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[12:43:34] <petermolnar> hi everyone; I'm having a really weird time with a postfix setup. I'm in the middle of migrating from a Debian 10 to FreeBSD (a jail under FreeNAS) with certain services; one of them being a mail server, a standard postfix + dovecot. Receiving is working perfectly, both locally and externally, using virtual_ with dovecot lmtp settings and an sqlite database in the background.
[12:43:38] <petermolnar> But when it comes to sending, I get a message as: postfix/smtpd: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from hostname[IP]: 550 5.1.1 <external at example dot com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table; from=<local at localhost dot localdomain> to=<external at example dot com> (I changed the addresses). MX records are fine, PTR records are fine, everything says it's happy, and I'm a bit lost trying to debug this.
[12:44:28] <petermolnar> bare in mind that the settings are 99% identical on the old and the new server (most of them being /usr/local/etc instead of /etc) and that is working.
[12:44:39] <petermolnar> had anyone experienced something like this before?
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[13:01:10] <tuxick> i'm betting on path issue
[13:01:41] <tuxick> try postmap -q
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[13:01:56] <tuxick> to verify virtual table
[13:09:53] <petermolnar> you were correct... somewhere, somehow, the domain sql lookup got mangled, so it always returned all domains. Damn.
[13:10:40] <petermolnar> thank you for the help
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[14:41:25] <nexgen> hello
[14:41:43] <nexgen> please let me know, how do you test rbl servers?
[14:41:51] <nexgen> is it good working or not
[14:42:15] <nexgen> and is it actually IP BL or URL BL
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[14:53:37] <lunaphyte> nexgen: that's a question for ##email
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[15:29:04] <postkick> hello
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[15:32:41] <postkick> !welcome
[15:32:41] <knoba> postkick: Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck!
[15:33:59] <postkick> if there a restryctions in postfix (incomming mail) to allow only if sender domain have a mx ?
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[15:41:15] <petermolnar> if I'm not mistaken, it's called reject_unknown_sender_domain in the list of smtpd_sender_restrictions
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[15:52:49] <postkick> reject_unknown_sender_domain if domain not existing like asdasdasdasdasdasd.ltd
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[15:53:28] <postkick> but in need mx test
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[15:54:47] <postkick> like all e-mail is rejected if example.com mx not exists but exapmle.com is real
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[15:56:25] <postkick> i have this restryctions in qmail and I migrate all "feature"
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[15:58:39] <rob0> It's a misfeature, because MX is not an absolute requirement.
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[15:59:02] <rob0> Anyway, there is check_sender_mx_access
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[16:27:56] <postkick> rob0 Yes you are right (there is even info in rfc) but my client wants it ...
[16:28:33] <postkick> s/client/customer
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[19:43:19] <d3lphi> where does the header "X-SourceIP:" come from? which software does add this header onto a SMTP message? any clues? couldn't find anything on the net.
[19:44:38] <lunaphyte> that would be a question for ##email. definitely not postfix
[19:45:12] <jimpop> d3lphi: anything X-* is custom and could be added/delete by nearly anyone, including MUAs, MTAs, milters, filters, bilters, and kilters.
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[19:45:25] <jimpop> (also what lunaphyte said)
[19:45:35] <lunaphyte> don't forget jilters!
[19:45:42] <jimpop> :-)
[19:47:34] * d3lphi looking for hilters ... :)
[19:47:37] <d3lphi> thanks :D
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