January 8, 2020 
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January 8, 2020 [00:11:49] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:15:32] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[00:27:16] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:29:36] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has quit IRC (Quit: shibboleth)[00:42:44] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.80.195> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[00:46:51] *** survietamine <survietamine!~vnvu@mxfr2-m1.mcra.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:47:00] *** survietamine <survietamine!~vnvu@mxfr2-m1.mcra.fr> has joined #postfix[01:08:27] *** audiodef <audiodef!~serverdef@static.207.9.4.46.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:09:33] *** audiodef <audiodef!~serverdef@static.207.9.4.46.clients.your-server.de> has joined #postfix[01:11:52] *** blaster <blaster!~blaster@unaffiliated/blaster> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:24:07] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye cruel world!)[01:44:50] *** freebdS <freebdS!6f7ddd41@111.125.221.65> has joined #postfix[01:44:56] <freebdS> in postfix if mynetworks= is set to mynetworks=172.24.2.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8" what sense does it make to set inet_interfaces to loopback?[01:45:49] <rob0> inet_interfaces and mynetworks are different settings with different purposes. We don't know what your goal is (you didn't say!) and it's difficult to guess what you might be confused about.[01:46:09] <rob0> (this is a better channel for that question)[01:48:36] <freebdS> inet_interfaces if set to loopback only aloows a user to send mail only i he is logged on a machine where postfix is hosted right?[01:49:09] <rob0> !inet_interfaces[01:49:09] <knoba> rob0: a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default, the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The parameter also controls delivery of mail to user at [ip dot address]. If your server does not react to connection attempts on a certain interface you should check this setting.[01:49:41] <rob0> "loopback-only" I think is the syntax[01:50:34] <freebdS> what does loopback-only do?[01:51:26] <rob0> See postconf.5.html#inet_interfaces for details on that; it will mean that Postfix will only bind 127.0.0.1 (and ::1 if ipv6 is enabled.)[02:00:48] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~blaahchm@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has joined #postfix[02:16:15] *** Bebef <Bebef!sbreit@phobos.bebef.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:17:38] *** Bebef <Bebef!sbreit@phobos.bebef.de> has joined #postfix[02:23:49] *** DoDu2 <DoDu2!~DoDu@static.248.79.243.136.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:24:05] *** DoDu2 <DoDu2!~DoDu@static.248.79.243.136.clients.your-server.de> has joined #postfix[02:25:11] <jimpop> ...unless something in master.cf specifies otherwise[02:25:52] *** qgTG <qgTG!~qgTG@unaffiliated/qgtg> has joined #postfix[02:26:48] <rob0> yes, the whole thing is an XY-ercise in answering questions which are not relevant toward the goal.[02:27:49] <rob0> I suspect that the real question might be, "Why does Fedora set 'inet_interfaces=loopback-only'?"[02:29:19] <rob0> and the basic answer there is, "Because they don't want anyone to accidentally expose a fully-functional MTA to the Internet if s/he does not know enough to do it safely."[02:31:42] *** phenom_ <phenom_!~primus@unaffiliated/phenom> has joined #postfix[02:32:33] *** phenom <phenom!~primus@unaffiliated/phenom> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:36:27] *** _cr_ <_cr_!~quassel@srv.ncxs.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:37:47] *** _cr_ <_cr_!~quassel@srv.ncxs.de> has joined #postfix[02:44:07] *** eramirez <eramirez!~eramirez@104.129.194.65> has joined #postfix[03:03:24] *** nyov <nyov!~nyov@unaffiliated/nyov> has quit IRC (Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[03:03:31] *** nyov <nyov!~nyov@unaffiliated/nyov> has joined #postfix[03:27:51] <freebdS> ok but setting it to loopback-only doesn't allow anyone except the user on the machine where postfix is running to send mail, right?[03:31:26] <freebdS> i went through a tutorial on setting up a postfix for a null client(don't know what is a null cliengt yet) so he has put " mydestination to " " , myorigin to the domain name, mynetworks to "172.24.0.0/24 ,127.0.0.0/8" , and inet_interfaces to loopback-only[03:32:56] <freebdS> so what does loopback-only does is what i dont understand, does it restrict outgoing mail or incoming mail?[03:36:24] *** kapil_ <kapil_!uid36151@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ybxmbngedcnxjfxn> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[03:53:16] <rjsalts> freebdS: it means that the smtp daemon only listens on loopback. You can't submit email to it from remote hosts[03:54:16] <rjsalts> freebdS: it will send emails onto remote hosts if they're so addressed[03:55:44] <freebdS> what if you and me are on same network, can i send you a mail (you are on a machine which hosts postfix.[04:00:36] <freebdS> sook tell me if i am getting it right . you are a user on a machine which hosts postfix, if inet_interfaces is set to loopback-only only you can send mail, i won't be able to send mail through your server even if i am on the same network.[04:02:31] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[04:22:07] *** tharkun <tharkun!~tharkun@unaffiliated/tharkun> has joined #postfix[05:09:34] *** kapil_ <kapil_!uid36151@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmnzbqpoclrvlwmg> has joined #postfix[05:10:47] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:14:18] *** AC3J <AC3J!AC3J@bbs.ac3j.radio> has quit IRC (Quit: 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<mikami!~scurfee@broadband-77-37-146-212.ip.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #postfix[15:00:58] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[15:04:16] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:06:10] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has joined #postfix[15:18:01] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@99.133.184.129> has joined #postfix[15:28:46] *** wowas <wowas!~wowas@projekte.imos.net> has joined #postfix[15:28:49] <wowas> Hello![15:29:25] <wowas> any idea why i get relay access denied for 123.123.138.85/32? => https://paste.centos.org/view/41f9b2a0[15:30:15] <wowas> i put it into mynetworks and smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks[15:31:08] <rob0> !relay_denied[15:31:09] <knoba> rob0: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[15:31:55] <rob0> where did you read that smtpd_sender_restrictions would control relaying? That was never correct.[15:33:16] <rob0> Relay access denied means that reject/defer_unauth_destination was triggered in smtpd_relay_restrictions or smtpd_recipient_restrictions[15:34:22] <wowas> oh i need smtpd_client_restrictions ?[15:34:44] <rob0> did I mention smtpd_client_restrictions?[15:35:36] <rob0> also, it's not possible to say what you need, because you did NOT say what you're trying to do.[15:36:22] <wowas> i want to allow smtp relay to a single ip address[15:36:35] <wowas> well, from a single ip addresss[15:36:45] <wowas> like outgoing relay[15:40:34] <rob0> Relaying normally should take place on submission/s, not on smtp. That said, nothing in the pastebin indicates why it was rejected. Probably something lost in the munging.[15:41:06] <lunaphyte> allowing relaying based on source ip address is not a great idea[15:41:36] <lunaphyte> use smtp auth[15:42:12] <rob0> 123.123.138.85/32 shows in mynetworks, both sets of defined restrictions show permit_mynetworks first.[15:42:30] <rob0> also, lunaphyte++[15:49:21] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@77.164.7.116> has joined #postfix[16:20:45] *** jamiejackson <jamiejackson!c7df1efe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.199.223.30.254> has joined #postfix[16:43:55] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[16:51:13] *** wowas <wowas!~wowas@projekte.imos.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:00:32] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@77.164.7.116> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:14:42] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:16:15] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[17:17:27] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[17:18:38] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:20:29] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has joined #postfix[17:37:48] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[18:10:14] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@xplr-208-114-153-215.xplornet.com> has joined #postfix[18:14:17] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-144-11.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[18:30:41] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[18:54:27] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:55:28] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[18:55:55] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[18:57:50] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:00:02] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:00:27] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has joined #postfix[19:00:31] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:45:34] *** snickers <snickers!~textual@83.145.139.194> has joined #postfix[19:51:41] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.80.195> has joined #postfix[20:01:39] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:13:13] *** jamiejackson <jamiejackson!c7df1efe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.199.223.30.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:36:12] *** snickers <snickers!~textual@83.145.139.194> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:41:39] *** echoSMILE <echoSMILE!~censured@unaffiliated/echosmile> has joined #postfix[20:45:03] *** mikami <mikami!~scurfee@broadband-77-37-146-212.ip.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC ()[21:50:17] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-144-11.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Quit: rsx)[22:00:59] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ftfgcrjvsnsmhtcz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:01:35] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-awuuxgoemzujcomq> has joined #postfix[22:19:23] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.80.195> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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