January 6, 2020 
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Anywhere.)[06:37:44] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has joined #postfix[06:52:42] *** tyzoid <tyzoid!~tyzoid@archlinux32/developer/tyzoid> has joined #postfix[06:56:06] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[07:01:07] *** wings <wings!~wings@unaffiliated/wings> has joined #postfix[07:07:27] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[08:17:45] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[08:24:51] *** aniketh <aniketh!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yxtvbiarchycmkvd> has joined #postfix[08:37:43] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-135-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[08:58:55] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[09:00:12] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has joined #postfix[09:01:02] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:03:01] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:03:11] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:ae1f:6bff:fef6:4afe> has joined #postfix[10:21:59] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@pb-d-128-141-210-93.cern.ch> has joined #postfix[10:33:16] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:34:14] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[11:28:18] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has joined #postfix[12:35:05] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[12:36:15] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has joined #postfix[13:25:52] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[13:33:37] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has joined #postfix[13:33:40] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[14:16:20] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has joined #postfix[14:34:58] *** PCatinean <PCatinean!~pcatinean@84-112-214-76.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #postfix[14:35:02] <PCatinean> Hello everyone[14:38:35] <PCatinean> I am attempting to setup an smtp proxy for a third party app inside a kubernetes (rancher) environment. I am using this docker image https://github.com/tomav/docker-mailserver. Here are the conf results and logs at this point in time https://pastebin.com/qd4fwACT[14:39:13] <PCatinean> My issue currently is that I cannot login to the relay from my third party app on any other port other than 25 (which works without providing username and password) 465 or 587 port time out when trying to connect[14:42:55] <tuxick> ironic how docker is used to complicate matters[14:43:17] <Zerberus> postfix is listening on ports 465 and 587?[14:43:43] <rob0> you didn't show any Postfix logging[14:44:19] <rob0> tuxick, isn't that the point of docker? :)[14:44:45] <Zerberus> docker is easy, but k8s is complex[14:45:34] <PCatinean> rob0, The logs are at the end, it just started and I did not do anything but attempt to connect to port 465 and 587, which produce no entries in the log[14:45:47] <lunaphyte> [14.44.27] lunaphyte: pastebin lsof -nPi tcp -s tcp:listen | sort[14:45:52] <PCatinean> Zerberus, I'm not sure if it does given the confi pasted[14:45:58] <rob0> then that is interesting,[14:46:01] <lunaphyte> PCatinean: ^^[14:46:03] <rob0> !nologs[14:46:03] <knoba> rob0: Nothing in your mail logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.[14:46:15] <lunaphyte> see my request from after you left last time[14:46:17] <Zerberus> PCatinean: use netstat as rob0 told you yesterday[14:46:36] <rob0> your firewall is probably blocking 465 & 587[14:46:38] <Zerberus> or whatever the docker image provides[14:46:42] <PCatinean> Let me see if I can find what he suggested in the history[14:46:55] <rob0> Zerberus, wasn't me, I think[14:47:08] <lunaphyte> hmm, i must be getting ignored[14:47:10] <Zerberus> lunaphyte> pastebin lsof -nPi tcp -s tcp:listen | sort[14:47:23] <Zerberus> sorry lunaphyte ;)[14:47:51] <lunaphyte> no, not by you :)[14:47:58] <PCatinean> Ahh indeed and here's the first issue, the service only forwards port 25 to the postfix pod. I will update the service to include these two ports as well and come back[14:48:03] <PCatinean> Will take me a few minutes, brb[14:48:17] <rob0> The postconf -Mf suggests that 465 & 587 were listening[14:48:43] <tuxick> rob0: there was a nice dilbert about docker/kubernetes anyway, didn't you post that this weekend?[14:48:51] <lunaphyte> well, it suggest they should be, yes[14:49:24] <Zerberus> tuxick: that had been me[14:49:26] <rob0> nope, I was dead to the world Saturday, and I haven't looked at Dilbert lately[14:50:03] <Zerberus> https://i.redd.it/8v9fopt6wlx31.jpg that's it[14:50:23] <PCatinean> rob0, indeed, this is a k8s configuration error on my part where I exposed port 22 only and forgot the others[14:50:40] <PCatinean> I will have to adjust and try again, but you pointed me in the right direction with this[15:48:38] <PCatinean> Alright so the ports have been opened up, connection succeeds on port 587 but when attempting to send an email I get SMTPSenderRefused: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first[15:49:02] <rob0> misconfigured MUA[15:49:05] <lunaphyte> the client needs to use encryption[15:49:20] <PCatinean> I figured there's an issue with the client, saw the option to select TLS (STARTTLS)[15:49:22] <PCatinean> And now I get....[15:49:32] <PCatinean> MTPServerDisconnected: please run connect() first 0_o[15:49:51] <rob0> that's not a Postfix log message[15:50:18] <PCatinean> I see, most likely it's connected to the implementation of postfix by the author of the docker image[15:50:40] <rob0> did this person patch Postfix?[15:51:12] <rob0> (if so, RUN AWAY now before it's too late!)[15:51:16] <PCatinean> With my very limited knowledge of postfix it's hard to say. He uses a lot of bash scripts for functionality https://github.com/tomav/docker-mailserver[15:51:43] <tuxick> Zerberus: yeah, that's the one :)[15:51:49] <lunaphyte> again, why is docker being used here?[15:52:00] <rob0> oh, interesting, I "know" tomaw from here[15:52:03] <PCatinean> Because i'm deploying it in a kubernetes cluster[15:52:08] <Zerberus> I feel "MTPServerDisconnected ..." is a client message[15:52:09] * tuxick giggles[15:52:26] <PCatinean> Oh, he's on the chan :))[15:52:29] <rob0> err, maybe that's not tomaw, it's tomaV[15:52:47] <PCatinean> ah, right[15:53:09] <rob0> Why do you need a k8s cluster? For what purpose?[15:54:40] <PCatinean> Because that's how I deploy all my applications in my environment[15:54:43] <PCatinean> :)[15:55:17] <PCatinean> And this should be a very simple relay not an actual mail server with full configuration, just forward stuff to gmail and keep a queue, it's all I need basically[15:55:26] <rob0> yuck[15:56:17] <PCatinean> ok[15:56:23] <rob0> Sounds like bad ideas added onto more bad ideas. But have fun with it.[15:56:37] <PCatinean> alrright, will do, thanks for your input[15:56:54] *** guest29348769876 <guest29348769876!~rsx@ppp-188-174-148-25.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[15:56:59] *** guest29348769876 <guest29348769876!~rsx@ppp-188-174-148-25.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:57:53] <lunaphyte> if it were me, i'd test with gnutls-cli or s_client first, before trying to get whatever other piece of software to work[15:59:56] <PCatinean> I'll try to give it a shot, thanks lunaphyte[16:00:33] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-135-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:01:46] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has joined #postfix[16:09:01] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-148-46.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[16:11:49] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[16:31:49] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.191.219.70> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:54:49] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[16:55:11] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has joined #postfix[16:55:50] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:01:09] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:02:02] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[17:18:06] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[17:18:25] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has joined #postfix[17:24:27] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[17:24:29] *** SteffanW <SteffanW!~steffan@185.2.243.3> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:24:52] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has joined #postfix[17:41:29] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@62.216.239.140> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[17:44:51] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[17:47:12] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[18:09:15] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:09:27] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[18:11:55] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[18:17:47] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[18:19:18] <CaBa> rob0: the numeric encoding that you suggest for address classes - does that come from postfix or is that your creation?[18:19:41] <CaBa> context: i'm referring to the howto on your site[18:19:43] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[18:21:08] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:31:11] *** aniketh <aniketh!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yxtvbiarchycmkvd> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:31:21] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-148-46.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:32:59] <rob0> CaBa, that's mine, any other numbers would be fine.[18:33:08] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[18:34:37] <CaBa> rob0: i see, thanks[18:35:22] <CaBa> rob0: any major regrets regarding the db design or configuration i should be aware of? ;-)[18:36:26] <rob0> was that the Camel5.[18:36:31] <rob0> bah[18:36:38] <rob0> was that the CamelCased schema?[18:36:58] <rob0> I'd not use that now.[18:37:11] <rob0> Otherwise I think it's still good.[18:37:27] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has joined #postfix[18:38:22] <CaBa> rob0: If that's what comes to mind as a _major_ regret... :-)[18:39:00] <rob0> haha, yeah, it's just cosmetic[18:40:43] <CaBa> rob0: what do you in practice use transport maps for? i've never used that feature, let alone included it in my database backends. yet it appears quite prominently in your setup.[18:43:46] <rob0> I don't. It most likely would be for relay_domains. I added it because it was a cool SQL exercize, IIRC. :)[18:44:32] <CaBa> haha[18:44:56] <CaBa> ok, then simplifying it away wasn't a crime ;)[18:45:15] <rob0> A lot of clueless howtos use transport_maps in a big way, and they always have it on mysql:, so when mysql burps Postfix chokes up badly.[18:46:15] <rob0> but of course sqlite won't crash nor hesitate in any way.[18:46:16] <CaBa> yeah i really like the sqlite approach. it's much more failsafe. i used pgsql in the past and will set up sqlite now.[18:47:04] <rob0> I never followed through on the user frontend scripts, but that shouldn't be too difficult.[18:47:25] <CaBa> that's the part we all always skip, isn't it ;-)[18:47:26] <rob0> just time consuming, and who has time?[18:47:30] <CaBa> exactly :)[18:47:50] <rob0> if it's just me, I don't need them[18:51:13] <CaBa> rob0: do you rely entirely on restriction classes and postscreen? or do you still sort spam/ham on the server side? and what about SPF, DKIM and friends?[18:52:13] <rob0> what's there is pretty much what I have,[18:52:23] <rob0> !whatis cheatsheet 2[18:52:23] <knoba> rob0: http://rob0.nodns4.us/postscreen.html , a postscreen spam control HOWTO[18:52:57] <rob0> Still no content filtering, but one user has asked for it.[18:53:58] <CaBa> hm.[18:56:13] <rob0> spf has never impressed me, but interestingly, I just got a report that a Polish ISP is putting our mail in Spam, because their broken filtering assumes that no SPF means "v=spf1 -all", reject all mail.[18:56:38] <rob0> boggles the mind, where to they get such ideas?[18:56:47] <rob0> s/to/do/[18:58:20] <CaBa> i do maintain the ns records, but i'm not checking them myself. i'd be curious how effective that actually is.[18:59:41] <CaBa> I don't quite get what that record is necessary for[19:01:13] <rob0> the different things that local aliases can do, as opposed to virtual(5) aliases[19:01:41] <rob0> bottom line, you might not care[19:02:07] *** PCatinean <PCatinean!~pcatinean@84-112-214-76.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:02:38] *** Guest56747 <Guest56747!~mirko@217.115.11.26> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:02:48] *** mirko <mirko!~mirko@217.115.11.26> has joined #postfix[19:03:12] *** mirko is now known as Guest89364[19:12:25] *** Guest89364 <Guest89364!~mirko@217.115.11.26> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:32:25] *** mirko <mirko!~mirko@openwrt/developer/mirko> has joined #postfix[19:34:41] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@94.239.113.89> has joined #postfix[19:40:41] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[19:41:25] *** Naglfar <Naglfar!znc@thunix.net> has left #postfix[19:50:35] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:50:59] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[20:03:14] <CaBa> rob0: is there a reason why the backscatter rbls are configured but didn't make it into any of your RCs?[20:03:40] *** foxcpp <foxcpp!~foxcpp@foxcpp.dev> has quit IRC (Quit: Looks like my relay decided to commit suicide)[20:03:47] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[20:03:56] *** foxcpp <foxcpp!~foxcpp@foxcpp.dev> has joined #postfix[20:08:04] <CaBa> oh, they are used in the bscat queries... nevermind.[20:12:33] <rob0> yeah, all that stuff is a mess, sorry[20:15:07] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[20:15:43] <CaBa> no worries, i'm merely using your docs as an inspiration ;) thanks for putting the work into documenting it[20:18:21] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has joined #postfix[20:20:26] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:21:30] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:22:14] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[20:22:34] <thumbs> yeah, rob's pages are awesome.[20:22:48] <thumbs> (not rob0, mind, he sucks)[20:24:17] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[20:24:37] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:28:28] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[20:28:49] *** echoSMILE <echoSMILE!~censured@unaffiliated/echosmile> has joined #postfix[20:28:58] *** blaster <blaster!~blaster@unaffiliated/blaster> has joined #postfix[20:29:58] <blaster> Anyone have a good suggestion for a hosting provider for an SMTP server? I was using DO but now I'm getting bounces with the message "We dont accept email from DO spammers".[20:31:15] <tuxick> sure you're not sending spam?[20:31:30] <tuxick> better avoid OVH though[20:31:53] <blaster> Yes it was a written response to a customer inquiry.[20:32:52] <blaster> Would AWS be worthwhile or is that heavily used by spammers too?[20:33:26] <tuxick> no idea, i consider amazon the root of all evil[20:33:34] <rob0> AWS has taken steps to inhibit spammers. Maybe ask their sales desk.[20:34:27] <blaster> Alright thanks.[20:35:31] <rob0> I think Linode users are mostly not blocked.[20:36:43] <nate> I've never had issues with my mailserver on linode but I always make sure it's otherwise configured 'legitimately', ie; proper HELO reversal, SPF+DKIM (DMARC), etc.[20:37:24] <nate> Were you actually sending -from- SMTP on a DO system? Or just general system sendmail? I'd be moderately surprised at anyone blocking the entirety of DO ranges, they're a pretty notable company so I'd imagine they're not letting abuse get that out of control[20:37:36] <blaster> We have all that too, but this seems like a hard bounce just based on having a DigitalOcean IP.[20:37:45] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:37:46] <nate> weird[20:38:07] <blaster> Yes it was actual SMTP not sendmail.[20:38:58] <rob0> "general system sendmail" has no means of rejecting mail.[20:40:10] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[20:43:28] *** netz <netz!netz@butt.boutique> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:45:01] *** netz <netz!netz@butt.boutique> has joined #postfix[20:49:49] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has joined #postfix[20:56:55] <blaster> Maybe I should just boot a secondary smtp relay on a different provider when that occurs.[20:57:29] <blaster> Dont really want to have to migrate my whole mail setup to another provider just because one client has a shitty mail server.[21:08:52] <tuxick> just remove client[21:10:19] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:10:29] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:11:13] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[21:12:49] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[21:17:00] *** random_yanek <random_yanek!~random_ya@87.116.237.199> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:23:48] *** random_yanek <random_yanek!~random_ya@host-89-230-165-208.dynamic.mm.pl> has joined #postfix[21:24:33] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@94.239.113.89> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:30:48] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:35:33] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@94.239.113.89> has joined #postfix[22:19:38] *** jelly-home is now known as jelly[22:43:43] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[22:55:19] *** DocMAX <DocMAX!~DocMAX@x4d08f33d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #postfix[23:03:46] *** snickers <snickers!~textual@83-145-136-211.tkk.net.pl> has joined #postfix[23:17:58] *** ephemer0l <ephemer0l!~ephemer0l@pentoo/user/ephemer0l> has joined #postfix[23:20:58] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@94.239.113.89> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:21:24] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:33:38] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[23:44:05] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:45:28] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-172-117-218-16.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC ()[23:59:54] *** Tulah <Tulah!~tulah@durhur.fi> has joined #postfix