January 5, 2020 
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<davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[17:47:14] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pqwtftbtkrcmfkzr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:47:59] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-btnzcjkstvjmvpkm> has joined #postfix[17:50:49] *** echoSMILE <echoSMILE!~censured@unaffiliated/echosmile> has joined #postfix[17:53:09] <lunaphyte> luckily, it's not a #postfix question[18:05:18] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[18:09:59] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[18:23:05] *** kingx <kingx!~kingx@c-69-181-4-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[18:37:13] *** Bheam <Bheam!~Bheam@80.232.6.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:42:34] *** mrnewbie72 <mrnewbie72!~mrnewbie7@2.51.65.91> has joined #postfix[18:54:02] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-btnzcjkstvjmvpkm> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:54:20] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bvqxmwrzndkpjrfu> has joined #postfix[19:08:14] *** echoSMILE <echoSMILE!~censured@unaffiliated/echosmile> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[19:14:07] *** tmberg <tmberg!tmberg@unaffiliated/tmberg> has quit IRC (Quit: tmberg)[19:15:34] *** PCatinean <PCatinean!~pcatinean@84-112-214-76.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #postfix[19:16:34] <PCatinean> Hey guys, I am trying to configure a postfix relay to forward emails from a local application to gmail and I keep getting NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 10-42-3-175.prod-server.default.svc.cluster.local[10.42.3.175]: 554 5.7.1 <example at gmail dot com>: Relay access denied; from=<catchall at company dot com> to=<example at gmail dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<[10.42.3.175]>[19:16:39] <PCatinean> Any idea how I can debug this?[19:16:40] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[19:17:01] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has joined #postfix[19:25:02] <jeev> PCatinean, you're trying to allow 10.42.3.175 to send emails out without authentication ?[19:25:52] <thumbs> PCatinean: why not use SASL auth instead?[19:34:23] <PCatinean> jeev, yes because it's inside a secured kubernetes cluster[19:34:34] <PCatinean> thumbs, I'm not sure I'm pretty much a beginner using postfix :([19:34:37] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[19:34:46] <PCatinean> I just want to use it as a simple relay to forward emails to gmail, and keep the queue nothign more[19:34:50] *** tmberg <tmberg!tmberg@unaffiliated/tmberg> has joined #postfix[19:35:53] <PCatinean> I am using this source to deploy it on the cluster: https://github.com/tomav/docker-mailserver[19:36:07] <Zerberus> !relay_access_denied[19:36:07] <knoba> Zerberus: see !relay_denied[19:36:13] <Zerberus> !relay_denied[19:36:13] <knoba> Zerberus: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[19:36:46] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[19:37:08] <thumbs> PCatinean: you should configure sasl auth, either way[19:37:10] <PCatinean> From the message I posted it seems the ip trying to connect is from the same network[19:37:15] <PCatinean> thumbs, how would that work?[19:37:42] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[19:37:42] <thumbs> PCatinean: every application that uses your mail server would need to authenticate.[19:37:45] <thumbs> !tell PCatinean sasl[19:37:46] <knoba> PCatinean: SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[19:38:09] <PCatinean> I think that's too much overhead tbh, at least at this point[19:38:10] <thumbs> PCatinean: you never wait to allow an IP to send emails[19:38:18] <PCatinean> I'm not actively developing the framework that access it[19:38:18] <thumbs> PCatinean: no, it's the proper way[19:38:40] <thumbs> PCatinean: if your framework does not support SMTP AUTH, then you should not use it.[19:38:42] <PCatinean> what do you mean by not waiting to allow anip?[19:39:05] <PCatinean> SMPTH is there[19:39:43] <thumbs> you don't want to trust all emails given only the IP. You want to require SMTP AUTH[19:40:27] <PCatinean> So you can enable SASL with https://github.com/tomav/docker-mailserver[19:40:52] <PCatinean> but from all the methods I'm not sure which one would be good[19:41:00] <thumbs> your application needs to be able to supply authentication credentials[19:41:10] <PCatinean> It does[19:41:23] <thumbs> PCatinean: not according to the error you provided.[19:41:34] <PCatinean> I can connect it directly to the gmail relay but I want to go through the proxy for the queue part[19:41:51] <PCatinean> thumbs, I see...well I do not send any data through it and it connects to the server fine[19:41:53] <PCatinean> with no user and no pass[19:42:12] <thumbs> you need to provide a username and a password[19:42:42] <PCatinean> If I do I get "SMTP AUTH extension not supported by server."[19:43:00] <thumbs> configure postfix to use sasl, then.[19:43:02] <PCatinean> And I did not set a password for the relay itself just the smth relay of google[19:43:09] <thumbs> !tell PCatinean sasl[19:43:09] <knoba> PCatinean: SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[19:44:57] <Zerberus> https://github.com/tomav/docker-mailserver/blob/master/target/postfix/master.cf has submission enabled[19:45:17] <PCatinean> Zerberus, what does that mean?[19:45:22] <Zerberus> while I dislike that use of docker all in one container[19:45:27] <PCatinean> I added ENABLE_SASLAUTHD[19:45:28] <Zerberus> !submission[19:45:28] <knoba> Zerberus: Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[19:45:50] <PCatinean> So I need to use that port instead for sending?[19:46:00] <Zerberus> yes[19:46:10] <PCatinean> hmm that's...strange?[19:46:17] <thumbs> pray tell, what port were you using before?[19:49:45] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[19:53:41] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@95.68.75.155> has joined #postfix[19:54:27] <PCatinean> 25 and it connected fine[19:54:34] <PCatinean> tried 587 but connection did not work[19:54:43] <lunaphyte> 25 is not appropriate for use by clients[19:54:56] <lunaphyte> 25 is smtp - for mail servers to talk to other mail servers[19:55:18] <PCatinean> I tried 465 and 587 both did not succeed in connecting[19:55:20] <lunaphyte> clients are to use the submissions [or submission] protocol, which uses port 465 [or 587][19:55:37] <thumbs> PCatinean: then set up submission(s)[19:56:05] <lunaphyte> not working means that your configuration needs to be fixed. it does not mean that some other port should be used[19:57:05] <thumbs> your inexperience is not an excuse, either.[19:57:38] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[19:58:16] <lunaphyte> well, not knowing how to do something does not equate to the solution being to do it wrong. instead, learn what is not yet known.[19:58:54] <Zerberus> https://i.redd.it/8v9fopt6wlx31.jpg[20:00:39] <PCatinean> rofl Zerberus :))))))))))))[20:00:48] <PCatinean> ok I am enabling sasl[20:03:14] <PCatinean> Connection keeps timing out though[20:03:28] <lunaphyte> !tell PCatinean getting_help[20:03:29] <knoba> PCatinean: before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[20:04:22] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:10:49] <PCatinean> This is the /etc/postfix/main.cf from the running container: https://pastebin.com/UvTcT1Ta, because the error is a timeout the logs do not show anything (indicating ports 465/587 might not be open). Connecting via smtp port 25 with no user and pass works without issues[20:10:59] <lunaphyte> PCatinean:[20:11:07] <lunaphyte> you have to follow the instructions, dude[20:11:14] <lunaphyte> why are you instead doing other things?[20:11:25] <lunaphyte> you'd like assistance, right?[20:17:06] <PCatinean> lunaphyte, which specific instruction? I'm not trying to be rude just very confused[20:17:16] <PCatinean> If i'm being too much of a nuisance you can drop me np[20:17:20] <thumbs> !tell PCatinean getting_help[20:17:20] <knoba> PCatinean: before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[20:17:37] <lunaphyte> it's hard for me to understand what you're confused about[20:17:44] <lunaphyte> you'll probably need to be more specific[20:18:01] <lunaphyte> you were given specific instructions for getting help. right?[20:18:21] <PCatinean> !tell PCatinean relevant_logs[20:18:22] <knoba> PCatinean: mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[20:22:34] <PCatinean> I just mentioned regarding logs there's absolutely nothing in there since the client just times out when trying to connect to the submission ports[20:23:12] <PCatinean> But if you think this helps sure: https://pastebin.com/LFjjUUTt[20:23:46] <lunaphyte> let us know when you have to complete pastebin, as per the instructions[20:25:08] <PCatinean> !tell PCatinean showconfig[20:25:10] <knoba> PCatinean: when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[20:30:40] <PCatinean> https://pastebin.com/ejhkEw2a[20:39:08] *** PCatinean <PCatinean!~pcatinean@84-112-214-76.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:44:28] <lunaphyte> pastebin lsof -nPi tcp -s tcp:listen | sort[20:53:53] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:54:13] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:01:08] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[21:01:50] *** kingx <kingx!~kingx@c-69-181-4-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[21:31:10] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:31:33] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:36:39] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:38:17] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:38:17] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[21:44:09] *** thebetra2 <thebetra2!~root@196.ip-158-69-59.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.2)[21:46:38] *** thebetra1 <thebetra1!~root@196.ip-158-69-59.net> has joined #postfix[21:52:17] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:52:38] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[22:14:52] *** aniketh <aniketh!uid171160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haofkondxrcuuiux> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:16:47] *** echoSMILE <echoSMILE!~censured@unaffiliated/echosmile> has joined #postfix[22:20:36] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@51.154.124.136> has joined #postfix[22:40:27] *** Zilon_ <Zilon_!~Zilon@mail.schem.me> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[22:42:57] *** Zilon <Zilon!~Zilon@www.schem.me> has joined #postfix[22:52:16] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@51.154.124.136> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:54:25] *** aadz <aadz!~Alexander@92.255.127.5> has joined #postfix[23:16:50] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@51.154.124.136> has joined #postfix[23:28:26] *** HumanG33k <HumanG33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[23:36:33] *** Dessa <Dessa!Dessa@kvirc/staff/Dessa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:47:35] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@51.154.124.136> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:57:16] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Quit: ]SiB[)