January 2, 2020 
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January 2, 2020 [00:01:16] <majiru> ah figured it out[00:01:18] <majiru> thanks all[00:01:20] *** majiru <majiru!~moody@173-24-204-65.client.mchsi.com> has left #postfix ("WeeChat 2.6")[00:06:24] *** aadz <aadz!~Alexander@92.255.127.5> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[00:14:46] *** aadz <aadz!~Alexander@92.255.127.5> has joined #postfix[00:17:38] *** aadz <aadz!~Alexander@92.255.127.5> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:18:03] *** aadz <aadz!~Alexander@92.255.127.5> has joined #postfix[00:38:53] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@mob-37-176-107-59.net.vodafone.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:42:02] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@mob-37-176-107-59.net.vodafone.it> has joined #postfix[00:44:45] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@mob-37-176-107-59.net.vodafone.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:19:05] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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Anywhere.)[07:03:34] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:04:01] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[07:13:12] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[07:16:14] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[07:23:37] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has joined #postfix[08:04:39] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[08:04:56] *** lilmike <lilmike!~server@mtserver.mwtd.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in)[08:05:23] *** lilmike <lilmike!~server@mtserver.mwtd.net> has joined #postfix[08:07:30] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[08:30:33] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[08:37:12] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[08:37:24] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[08:44:54] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:32:25] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has quit IRC (Quit: emerge life)[09:33:38] *** breitenj <breitenj!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:34:16] *** n-st <n-st!~n-st@unaffiliated/n-st> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:34:31] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has joined #postfix[09:38:24] *** breitenj <breitenj!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has joined #postfix[09:38:52] *** n-st <n-st!~n-st@unaffiliated/n-st> has joined #postfix[09:43:35] *** wowas <wowas!~wowas@projekte.imos.net> has joined #postfix[09:43:37] <wowas> Hello![09:44:52] <wowas> do i need to pay attention to those non delivery reports with the from=<> sender? Looks like i get a poor reputation on http://www.backscatterer.org with that[09:45:12] <wowas> shall i ignore http://www.backscatterer.org or fix the null sender problem?[09:50:18] *** random_yanek <random_yanek!~random_ya@host-89-230-164-117.dynamic.mm.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:57:01] *** random_yanek <random_yanek!~random_ya@host-89-230-164-117.dynamic.mm.pl> has joined #postfix[10:08:06] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:31:21] *** niee <niee!~user@MINE.THE.GAP.MEDOLINA.INFO> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:32:45] <pj> wowas: you should fix your backscatter problem[10:32:48] <pj> !backscatter[10:32:49] <knoba> pj: see http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html - Basically backscatter are bounces sent to innocent systems. A spammer sent email in behalf of the victim's system. Undeliverable emails get bounced to the victim.[10:33:26] <pj> what is happening is that your system is configured to be bouncing mail where it should be rejecting instead, and as such you become a source of backscatter.[10:34:51] <wowas> pj, a customer rejects the mail and somehow a delivery report with from=<> gets send back[10:35:38] <pj> how is a customer rejecting mail from your server?[10:35:42] <pj> show logs[10:35:53] <pj> in fact, do this...[10:35:59] <pj> !tell wowas getting_help[10:35:59] <knoba> wowas: before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[10:36:25] <wowas> i gotta go, will come back to it later, thanks so far...[10:37:24] <pj> ok[11:16:55] <survietamine> !factoids search #postfix null[11:16:55] <knoba> survietamine: 'null_client', 'nullclient', 'nullclient_software', 'nullmailer', and 'smtpd_null_access_lookup_key'[11:17:10] <survietamine> !factoids search #postfix sender[11:17:10] <knoba> survietamine: 'SenderID', 'address_verify_sender', 'check_sender_access', 'double_bounce_sender', 'from!=sender', 'reject_non_fqdn_sender', 'reject_sender_login_mismatch', 'reject_unknown_sender_domain', 'reject_unlisted_sender', 'sender_based_routing', 'sender_bcc_maps', 'sender_canonical_maps', 'sender_dependent_default_transport_maps', 'sender_dependent_relayhost_maps', 'smtp_sender_dependent_authentication', (1 more message)[11:17:28] <survietamine> hmmm, how to see what's that "(1 more message)"?[11:19:30] <tuxick> spam![11:37:38] <pj> !more[11:37:38] <knoba> pj: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.[11:37:45] <pj> survietamine: try !more[11:38:15] <pj> !more survietamine[11:38:15] <knoba> pj: 'smtpd_reject_unlisted_sender', 'smtpd_sender_login_maps', 'smtpd_sender_restrictions', and 'unverified_sender_reject_code'[11:38:23] <pj> like that ^^^^[11:38:39] *** dl8bh <dl8bh!~bammes@shells.postadigitale.org> has joined #postfix[11:39:48] *** bammes <bammes!~bammes@shells.postadigitale.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:39:48] *** daemonkeeper <daemonkeeper!~arno@debian/developer/arno> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:39:58] *** migy <migy!~migy@static.59.240.9.5.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:40:53] *** r0kc4t <r0kc4t!~frosch@static.179.17.76.144.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:41:03] *** xelxebar <xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:41:24] *** emcepe <emcepe!~mcp@wolk-project.de> has 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seconds)[15:13:17] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[15:14:38] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:14:39] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[15:20:18] *** dostoyevsky <dostoyevsky!~sck@unaffiliated/dostoyevsky> has joined #postfix[15:20:39] <dostoyevsky> my postfix is seriously broken :-([15:21:33] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.191.219.70> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:23:47] <tuxick> why did you break it?[15:24:26] <dostoyevsky> I think openbsd's default postfix is broken...[15:25:18] <dostoyevsky> I had to set `daemon_directory' and `command_directory' in main.cf because otherwise postfix couldn't find its own binaries...[15:25:39] *** Kaffeemann <Kaffeemann!~Columbo08@HSI-KBW-46-223-210-8.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #postfix[15:26:08] <dostoyevsky> And then I made a `/usr/sbin/postdrop -> /usr/local/sbin/postdrop' for /usr/sbin/sendmail ...[15:26:13] *** Columbo0815 <Columbo0815!~Columbo08@HSI-KBW-46-223-210-8.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:26:56] <survietamine> oh, openbsd people don't use opensmtpd?[15:27:21] <dostoyevsky> then I had to setup saslpass to be accessed by the _postfix user, as the _postfix user had to permission to read it...[15:27:44] <dostoyevsky> survietamine: I think that may be why....[15:28:48] <dostoyevsky> atm postfix complains about missing tls certificates... but not sure how many error messages are still to be dealt with until I can send mail[15:31:38] <survietamine> hmm, maybe read the topic and check !getting_help steps[15:34:51] <dostoyevsky> should I maybe just reinstall postfix from source? If `postconf -d' already shows me non-existing paths the install is broken, no?[15:37:27] <rob0> I don't really know anything about openbsd's Postfix settings, but since we haven't heard much, I suppose it can work.[15:38:08] <rob0> but no, I don't think you need to worry much about what "postconf -d" says[15:38:32] <rob0> Did they document what they did?[15:54:03] <buki> I would assume postfix from ports would have this sorted out[15:54:13] <buki> but then again, FreeBSD here :)[15:56:03] * tuxick gives dostoyevsky a 1000 page manual[15:56:08] <tuxick> you should be used to that![16:02:53] *** benharri <benharri!ben@tilde.team/sudoers/ben> has left #postfix ("ping me anyways i guess")[16:04:22] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@186.143.136.30> has joined #postfix[16:09:32] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has joined #postfix[16:14:14] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.scb.ne.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[16:20:30] *** Kaffeemann is now known as Columbo0815[16:42:01] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@186.143.136.30> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:48:59] *** xelxebar <xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:49:41] *** xelxebar <xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar> has joined #postfix[17:05:16] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-142-60.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[17:07:42] *** niee <niee!~user@MINE.THE.GAP.MEDOLINA.INFO> has joined #postfix[17:15:55] *** wowas <wowas!~wowas@projekte.imos.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:25:57] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:26:23] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[18:11:14] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[18:12:49] *** davispuh <davispuh!~quassel@87.110.32.91> has joined #postfix[18:27:15] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:28:47] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has joined #postfix[18:36:02] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:37:03] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has joined #postfix[18:42:33] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:43:37] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has joined #postfix[19:10:12] *** Southron <Southron!~Southron@unaffiliated/southron> has joined #postfix[19:14:12] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:36:33] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:38:24] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[19:47:33] *** FH_thecat <FH_thecat!~FH_thecat@75.11.25.212.ftth.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:52:04] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:10:11] *** echoSMILE <echoSMILE!~censured@unaffiliated/echosmile> has joined #postfix[20:14:17] <echoSMILE> Hi. I want to setup a postfix to act as a middle server between the gmail and my email client. Could someone give me lights about what I need to look to achieve this setup? (I never setup a email server before)[20:16:04] *** Agathon <Agathon!~Agathon@unaffiliated/agathon> has joined #postfix[20:31:02] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.25.191> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:32:45] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@xplr-208-114-153-215.xplornet.com> has joined #postfix[20:48:03] *** FH_thecat <FH_thecat!~FH_thecat@75.11.25.212.ftth.as8758.net> has joined #postfix[20:50:42] *** Human_G33k <Human_G33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:51:34] *** Human_G33k <Human_G33k!~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8> has joined #postfix[20:53:21] <cpm> !null_client[20:53:21] <knoba> cpm: see !nullclient[20:53:28] <cpm> !nullclient[20:53:29] <knoba> cpm: a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[20:53:42] <cpm> !tell echoSMILE nullclient[20:53:43] <knoba> echoSMILE: a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[20:56:47] <echoSMILE> cpm: well, actually I want this 'middle' server more to receive mail, not to send.[20:57:47] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-142-60.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Quit: rsx)[21:00:22] <cpm> where does gmail fit into this?[21:01:46] <echoSMILE> I receive all mail into gmail where postfix fetch all mail from there, at local I setup a postfix server where client devices read email[21:02:16] <echoSMILE> gmail <--pop3--> postfix <--imap--> clients[21:03:43] <cpm> you can probably do this, but you will hate yourself. gmail<-->imap<-->clients is tried and true.[21:04:14] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:05:40] <echoSMILE> could be complicated to config is what you mean?[21:13:57] *** wCPO <wCPO!~wCPO@unaffiliated/wcpo> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)[21:14:16] *** chapman_r <chapman_r!c7c94002@199.201.64.2> has joined #postfix[21:15:02] *** wCPO <wCPO!~wCPO@unaffiliated/wcpo> has joined #postfix[21:16:01] *** dl8bh <dl8bh!~bammes@shells.postadigitale.org> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:16:12] *** dl8bh <dl8bh!~bammes@shells.postadigitale.org> has joined #postfix[21:27:02] <lunaphyte> i wonder why too[21:27:15] <lunaphyte> what's the benefit of adding postfix?[21:27:23] <lunaphyte> they can still have all of their email in the same client[21:27:33] <lunaphyte> postfix isn't needed for that[21:27:39] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!jwpierce3@000.srv.trnkmstr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.5)[21:28:06] <echoSMILE> lunaphyte: I don't want all email to remain in the provider servers[21:28:41] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!jwpierce3@000.srv.trnkmstr.com> has joined #postfix[21:28:43] <echoSMILE> that's why I want to have a middle email server to have it where all devices access the emails[21:29:31] <echoSMILE> the why don't matter in my opinnion, but ok[21:30:15] <Zerberus> you don't need an MTA, a mail storage and access server like dovecot and a tool to fetch the mails from gmail like getmail[21:31:20] <echoSMILE> Zerberus: that's the type of anwser I'm looking for. If I don't need a MTA that's fine.[21:32:03] <lunaphyte> there might still be a role postfix plays that relates to this, but yes, you need something that syncs between pop and imap, in short[21:32:08] <echoSMILE> I really thought email servers could do this type of things easily, but never interact with email 'stuff' before[21:32:25] <lunaphyte> email servers, yes. but that is a vague categorization[21:32:32] <lunaphyte> postfix is not an "email server"[21:32:41] <lunaphyte> it is part of what would be an emai lserver[21:32:44] <lunaphyte> *email server[21:33:00] <lunaphyte> anyway, look into something like offlineimap, etc[21:33:17] <lunaphyte> not on topic here, but you could continue the discussion in ##email if you'd like[21:33:28] <echoSMILE> cool tks :)[21:46:50] *** Ner0Zer0 <Ner0Zer0!~Ner0Zer0@87.253.63.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:46:58] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:54:13] *** camelCaser <camelCaser!~camela@titan.pathogen.is> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:56:02] *** camelCaser <camelCaser!~camela@103.25.59.54> has joined #postfix[21:59:24] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[22:06:05] *** chapman_r <chapman_r!c7c94002@199.201.64.2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:06:42] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[22:06:57] *** Southron <Southron!~Southron@unaffiliated/southron> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[22:13:04] *** Cuare <Cuare!Cuare@047-006-186-158.res.spectrum.com> has joined #postfix[22:17:00] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has joined #postfix[22:42:10] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:44:15] *** corey <corey!9d83c62d@freenode/staff-emeritus/Corey> has joined #postfix[22:54:11] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[22:55:44] *** corey is now known as Guest59450[23:06:20] *** Cuare <Cuare!Cuare@047-006-186-158.res.spectrum.com> has quit IRC ()[23:07:42] *** jelly <jelly!jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:08:56] *** Corey <Corey!~Corey@freenode/staff-emeritus/Corey> has joined #postfix[23:09:56] *** Corey is now known as Guest8152[23:16:28] *** jelly-home <jelly-home!jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly> has joined #postfix[23:23:53] *** Guest59450 <Guest59450!9d83c62d@freenode/staff-emeritus/Corey> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:44:49] *** Guest8152 <Guest8152!~Corey@freenode/staff-emeritus/Corey> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:57:23] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)