December 28, 2018 
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*** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:06:42] *** nyarna <nyarna!~nyarna@host7-2.natpool.mwn.de> has joined #postfix[07:07:09] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[07:07:17] <nyarna> !getting_help[07:07:17] <knoba> nyarna: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[07:08:41] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[07:13:57] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[07:26:36] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[07:31:44] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[07:36:15] <nyarna> hello, I have a problem with my postfix server. I got a new domain name [newdomain.com] and I want to keep receiving mails from the old domain. so I changed myhostname to newdomain.com. The mail server works normally with nyarna at mynewdomain dot com.[07:36:24] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[07:36:55] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:37:20] *** tenchi4615 <tenchi4615!~tenchi461@2601:484:c300:a789::1bc> has joined #postfix[07:38:09] <nyarna> I removed my old domains (olddomain.com and olddomain.net) from everywhere and added them as virtual_alias_domains = olddomain.com, olddomain.net[07:38:12] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[07:39:29] <nyarna> then put nyarna at olddomain dot com to /etc/postfix/virtual run postmap on it to generate virtual.db and uncommented virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual[07:39:29] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[07:39:35] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!jwpierce3@001.srv.trnkmstr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[07:39:52] *** rob is now known as Guest21973[07:40:27] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:40:29] <nyarna> The server works normally. But when I put reject_unverified_recipient to smtpd_recipient_restrictions it rejects my email[07:41:03] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!jwpierce3@001.srv.trnkmstr.com> has joined #postfix[07:41:32] <nyarna> The error is: <nyarna at olddomain dot com> Recipient address rejected: unverified address: User unknown in virtual alias table;[07:42:13] <nyarna> Without reject_unverified_recipient everything works and mails are delivered correctly[07:42:27] <nyarna> what am I doing wrong?[07:44:20] *** Guest21973 <Guest21973!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[07:45:44] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[07:46:13] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:46:35] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[07:49:28] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[07:49:56] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:03:31] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[08:04:54] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[08:08:25] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[08:13:11] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[08:17:12] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[08:17:40] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:22:35] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[08:26:46] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:27:42] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[08:30:04] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[08:40:26] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[08:45:06] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[08:48:51] <survietamine> I cannot give you advices since I'm eternal newbie. But did you have read[08:48:54] <survietamine> !basic[08:48:54] <knoba> survietamine: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[08:49:13] <survietamine> and also, for support in this channel, you should follow directions from /topic[08:50:03] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[08:53:48] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[08:54:13] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:55:05] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:02:27] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@62.162.164.127> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:05:25] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@62.162.164.127> has joined #postfix[09:11:35] <nyarna> it seems like I messed up my MX records while transferring it[09:11:42] <nyarna> so that's solved[09:14:40] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[09:15:04] *** rob is now known as Guest19764[09:17:14] <survietamine> hmm, ok[09:18:48] *** Guest19764 <Guest19764!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:25:58] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[09:29:19] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:30:19] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[09:35:41] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[09:40:32] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[09:42:38] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@62.162.164.127> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[09:45:18] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[09:49:58] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:54:39] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[09:56:43] *** nyarna <nyarna!~nyarna@host7-2.natpool.mwn.de> has quit IRC ()[09:56:57] *** nyarna <nyarna!~nyarna@host7-2.natpool.mwn.de> has joined #postfix[09:57:42] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:58:47] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:00:48] *** cyris212_ <cyris212_!9356f061@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.86.240.97> has joined #postfix[10:01:30] <cyris212_> !relevant_logs[10:01:30] <knoba> cyris212_: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[10:01:58] <cyris212_> !showconfig[10:01:58] <knoba> cyris212_: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[10:02:15] <cyris212_> !pastebin[10:02:15] <knoba> cyris212_: "pastebin" : A pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, pastebin.ca, paste.ee, ptpb.pw, ix.io and many others. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[10:12:28] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[10:12:58] <cyris212_> I have the problem that postfix uses the FQDN of itself as the from address when sending mails (myorigin is set to the domain).[10:13:14] <cyris212_> https://pastebin.com/xwQM5QX8[10:13:20] <cyris212_> Maybe someone has a tip?[10:17:16] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:17:25] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:19:56] <double-p> cyris212_: the maildrop is already adding the domain.. if not, a logsnip would look like 'postfix/pickup[9586]: 0670820027: uid=502 from=<pbuehler>'[10:21:38] <survietamine> lol, how come you read !pastebin factoid and then paste to pastebin.com? :D[10:22:14] <double-p> cyris212_: alas, check if your mail(1) is actually using the postfix' sendmail binary[10:22:15] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[10:26:27] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:31:00] <cyris212_> double-p: You're right. I've just retried with mutt and it works perfectly.[10:31:04] <cyris212_> thank you![10:31:27] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[10:31:59] <cyris212_> survietamine: sorry, i'm still a bit sleepy :-)[10:35:40] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:37:06] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@62.162.164.201> has joined #postfix[10:37:27] *** HielkeJ <HielkeJ!c323e3c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.35.227.200> has joined #postfix[10:40:40] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[10:40:43] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[10:43:19] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[10:43:24] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:44:47] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:47:31] <HielkeJ> Hello![10:49:52] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[10:49:54] <buki> EHLO[10:51:39] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[10:52:06] <HielkeJ> Last saturday I had a problem with my Postfix setup. I am trying to get the server to relay for all domains, but for one exeption. If the server gets a mail from one domain, it needs to deliver itself (not through the relay). I got the tip to first upgrade Postfix, but this didn't resolve the issue. Do you have any tips to get this working?[10:54:16] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:55:03] *** jalalsfs_ is now known as jalalsfs[10:56:18] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:58:55] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:59:07] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[11:00:36] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:02:49] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[11:03:27] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:04:17] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:bcf2:f888:3db2:df79> has joined #postfix[11:08:13] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[11:12:25] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[11:12:33] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:12:58] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:16:22] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:16:39] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[11:17:31] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[11:20:51] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[11:21:50] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:23:23] <tuxick> "deliver itself" ?[11:24:56] <HielkeJ> Yes, I needs to do a DNS lookup for the MX-server and connect to that server[11:26:48] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[11:28:21] <tuxick> sounds like what any mailserver does[11:28:47] <HielkeJ> I am trying to do it with sender_dependent_relayhost_maps, but if I try to leave the domain empty, it still uses the relayhost[11:29:02] <tuxick> what is the actual goal?[11:29:10] * tuxick smells manager[11:30:48] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has joined #postfix[11:30:56] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:30:59] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:31:41] <HielkeJ> I need Postfix to do a check like this:[11:31:46] <HielkeJ> Mail from hielke.eu? -> Yes -> Check DNS for MX-host for to domain and deliver mail[11:31:51] <HielkeJ> Mail from hielke.eu? -> No -> Use smtphost to deliver mail[11:31:59] <HielkeJ> *relayhost[11:32:50] <tuxick> relayhost suggests outgoing[11:32:52] <tuxick> ?[11:33:01] <HielkeJ> Yes, that is correct[11:33:25] <tuxick> which kinda implies using auth[11:34:47] <tuxick> !goal[11:34:47] <knoba> tuxick: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is[11:35:26] *** nyarna <nyarna!~nyarna@host7-2.natpool.mwn.de> has quit IRC ()[11:36:00] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[11:37:04] <HielkeJ> nope, all is in a trusted network.[11:38:07] <HielkeJ> We have a customer that does not want to use our (external hosted) relayhost[11:40:38] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:40:48] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[11:42:32] <HielkeJ> Smells more like a security officer who has way too much time to spend :([11:43:04] <cyris212_> Not strictly postfix related but I have problem with OpenDKIM. The verifcation of DKIM signatures always fail with "key retrieval failed".[11:43:18] <cyris212_> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/s1AczwPHpuypnJBfblOY8A[11:43:46] <cyris212_> The funny thing is that i can query the domainkey without any problem using dig...[11:43:46] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:44:01] <cyris212_> Maybe someone has an idea?[11:45:06] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[11:45:17] <tuxick> HielkeJ: why are you using external relayhost for the rest?[11:46:09] <blackflow> cyris212_: 'default._domainkey.jurij.cysl.gwerder.net' query timed out[11:46:37] <blackflow> cyris212_: check that the opendkim process, in its environment, can resolve that domain[11:46:37] <tuxick> at least i guessed the 'manager' bit right[11:47:08] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:48:19] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[11:48:42] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:49:03] <HielkeJ> tuxick: For all our other customers, they want to control the outgoing email flow[11:49:05] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:49:18] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[11:49:33] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:50:21] <HielkeJ> I think I am going to setup a separate mail server for this customer.[11:51:28] <cyris212_> blackflow: tcpdump tells me that opendkim-testkey gets the correct response from dns resolver.[11:52:43] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[11:53:04] <HielkeJ> cyris212_: https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=dns%3ajurij.cysl.gwerder.net&run=networktools[11:53:06] <blackflow> cyris212_: which os? systemd-resolved in effect?[11:54:24] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[11:54:58] <cyris212_> HielkeJ: The complete infrastructure is in a lab behind a firewall :-/[11:56:03] <tuxick> HielkeJ: who is 'they'? and why leaving it to external party?[11:56:08] <cyris212_> blackflow: debian 9.6, systemd-resolved is not running.[11:57:22] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:57:32] <blackflow> cyris212_: well, tcpdump aside (and that shows only the packets coming down to the machine, nothing else) the opendkim process obviously can't resolve that domain for whatever reason. check its context. is it namespaced? containerized? is there selinux or appamor in effect?[11:58:26] <HielkeJ> tuxick: A big scary company with company politics I was hoping to avoid[11:58:27] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:58:44] <tuxick> i really don't get it[11:58:51] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[11:59:18] <tuxick> they want you to manage relay, but they don't trust you so they force you to relay through another host they trust?[11:59:40] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:59:50] <tuxick> smells like like more than 2 managers[12:00:02] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[12:00:13] <blackflow> client side internal politicking![12:01:45] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[12:02:16] <HielkeJ> Yes, that sounds correct tuxick. :([12:02:24] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:bcf2:f888:3db2:df79> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:02:41] <cyris212_> blackflow: Neither apparmor or selinux is in use. As far as i know the process does not run in a separate namespace.[12:03:14] <cyris212_> blackflow: I've run opendkim-testkey with strace again -> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/gaHP6CNl5KHK85y3igqV7Q[12:03:25] <tuxick> HielkeJ: one problem is the "from" bit to start with[12:03:31] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[12:05:57] *** HielkeJ is now known as HielkeJ_afk[12:05:57] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:08:30] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[12:08:50] <blackflow> cyris212_: do you have any resolver/dns specific settings in opendkim.conf that would explain this?[12:12:28] <blackflow> cyris212_: like "Nameservers" for example?[12:12:48] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[12:12:58] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:14:10] <cyris212_> blackflow: i do. i've set the nameserver to the samehost as in /etc/resolv.conf.[12:15:31] <blackflow> cyris212_: tried removing it? it's redundant anyways, opendkim will use system defined resolver[12:16:01] <blackflow> I mean I'm just guessing here, but from what you're presenting, the openkdim process, in its environment (since you can dig as root) cannot resolve that name.[12:16:42] <blackflow> at some point this is becoming offtopic for #postfix, but anyway that's my $.02 for your "Maybe someone has an idea?" :)[12:17:33] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:18:09] <cyris212_> blackflow: thanks for your help anyway[12:22:01] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[12:26:24] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:31:23] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[12:35:28] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:42:33] *** jalalsfs_ 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power point attachments with embedded cat videos.[15:44:07] <orev> i'm currently having a dns issue and would like to prevent bounces when unable to lookup host, at least for a while. how can i do this?[15:45:58] <tuxick> that shouldn't really cause bounces[15:46:09] <tuxick> so what do you mean exactly?[15:46:28] <blackflow> orev: otoh http://www.postfix.org/TUNING_README.html#hammer[15:46:31] <orev> i'm getting lots of "status=bounced (unable to look up host"[15:46:58] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-253-72.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[15:47:08] <orev> our upstream email provider's dns has dissappeared[15:47:35] <orev> not using a smarthost, just regular MX lookup[15:47:53] <tuxick> that's not upstream provider then[15:48:02] <blackflow> at least not upstream _email_ provider[15:48:08] <tuxick> :)[15:48:41] <rob0> you should run your own resolver for a MTA[15:48:45] <orev> well, it's also where our main mailboxes are..[15:49:08] <blackflow> you can also configure a local resolver (bind or unbound work fine) and confiugre it to be used after your upstream resolvers[15:49:41] *** Guest63439 <Guest63439!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:49:46] <orev> are you talking about a dns resolver?[15:49:58] <blackflow> yes[15:50:30] <survietamine> sure[15:50:40] <orev> i'm open to suggestions on improvements, but right now i need to stop the bounces and hold them in queue instead[15:51:02] <blackflow> switch resolv.conf to 8.8.8.8 as a test?[15:51:08] <survietamine> are you forced to use that shitty dns service?[15:51:29] <rob0> upstream resolvers? no. Just use your own named/unbound/whatever exclusively.[15:51:47] <double-p> rob0: some dorks block 53[15:51:48] <orev> that is not the problem. the mail provider's DNS is down. not my issue. my issue is that postfix is bouncinng messages due to "unable to lookup host"[15:52:10] <orev> postfix should be able to keep them in queue instead of bouncing them[15:52:13] <rob0> I would not attempt to run a MTA behind a dorky ISP.[15:52:32] <rob0> double-p, get better service.[15:52:51] <blackflow> orev: not sure I understand your layout, if you say that's not a smarthost/relay[15:52:58] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[15:53:09] <rob0> orev, perhaps you should SHOW us what you are seeing,[15:53:14] <rob0> !getting_help[15:53:14] <knoba> rob0: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[15:53:21] <blackflow> orev: meanwhile, you could raise the retry queue lifetime[15:53:52] <rob0> what is one of the recipient domains giving you this bounce?[15:53:57] <double-p> rob0: i am not talking about myself :)[15:54:09] <orev> blackflow: email is destined to aaa.com. postfix does MX lookup for aaa.com, gets response for MX hosts. then postfix looks up IP address for MX host, response is "Name or service not known"[15:54:17] <survietamine> did you setup an UUCP ?[15:54:29] <orev> blackflow: so the IPs for the MX hosts are not resolving[15:54:44] <double-p> orev: that dns failures should keep the mails in the queue?[15:54:53] <rob0> orev, aaa.com has no MX records[15:55:30] *** gabizou <gabizou!~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org> has joined #postfix[15:55:32] <orev> rob0: that's obviously an example[15:55:36] <blackflow> orev: wait, you actually get a NXDOMAIN? or anotehr response? SERVFAIL? REFUSED?[15:56:22] <orev> blackflow: NXDOMAIN when trying to resolve the host found in the MX record[15:56:51] <double-p> orev: and A-RR on the same?[15:57:14] *** gabizou <gabizou!~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:57:58] <blackflow> your upstream resolver shouldn't reply with NXDOMAIN if it has issues. NXDOMAIN literally means you've reached the authoritative server and it said it never heard of the name.[15:58:10] <blackflow> so if that's nxdomain, then shrugh, blame the final recipient admins.[15:58:21] <double-p> blackflow: and there goes the theory :D[15:58:35] <survietamine> cache poisoning :p[15:58:43] <blackflow> anyhoo.... again... you could prolong the bounce_queue_lifetime, though personally I love to keep it low. it's 2019 almost, users require insta-gratification. even 2 hrs that I keep has been complained about in some cases.[15:58:50] <orev> blackflow: that's not MY problem. MY problem is to stop the bounncing until this is resolved[15:59:03] <double-p> blackflow: i do DNS since.. '95 or so. and this, ahum, assumption is just such[15:59:04] <orev> blackflow: ok, i will look at that[15:59:20] <blackflow> orev: I must ask, why? bounce it back to the sender and let the sender call up the recipient by phone and complain about bad email service.... :)[15:59:25] *** gabizou <gabizou!~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org> has joined #postfix[15:59:36] <double-p> blackflow: "send an email to" :D[15:59:41] <orev> blackflow: because people are not the only things that send email[15:59:53] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:00:05] <survietamine> yes, it's your problem. But it doesn't look like your goal to fix it. You prefer workarounds[16:00:14] <orev> bounce_queue_lifetime = 5d[16:00:15] <blackflow> okay, so why do you, as an email transport officer, care if the recipient broke their domain? bounce back and call it quits.[16:00:33] <double-p> orev: anyway.. can you (ab)use something like 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 anyway (dig @1.1.1.1 would tell)[16:00:38] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:00:41] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[16:00:43] <blackflow> double-p: what assumption? that resolvers shouldn't NXDOMAIN if they're broken and non-authoritative for a name?[16:01:17] <double-p> blackflow: i cannot count what crapshit i've seen from ISP resolvers...[16:01:21] <orev> blackflow: my bounce queue is 5 days, but these are bouncing immediately. so that appears to not affect the queue if there's a dns issue[16:01:32] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[16:01:49] <blackflow> double-p: I see. well.... can only tableflip :) I love to play BofH and not care tho :)[16:02:38] <rob0> !tell orev example[16:02:38] <knoba> orev: "example" : Example.TLD has been reserved for examples in generic top-level domains (com,net,org) and many other TLDs. Please do not use real Internet names as examples.[16:02:45] <blackflow> orev: I suppose nxdomain means hard fail, "Y0, there's no such address, nothing to retry"[16:03:04] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:03:28] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:04:41] <orev> trying "soft_bounce = yes"[16:05:09] <rob0> !soft_bounce[16:05:09] <knoba> rob0: "soft_bounce" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.[16:05:16] <double-p> rob0: "slap slap slap" IANA )[16:05:53] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:06:02] * blackflow forgot about soft_bounce[16:06:13] <rob0> double-p, I asked for a specific example and was given aaa.com.[16:06:27] <double-p> rob0: yeh righjt[16:06:51] <double-p> damn, i really need to cut finger nails :D[16:06:59] <orev> ok, soft_bounce=yes seems to have them getting queued[16:07:30] <blackflow> double-p: azerty kbd?[16:07:39] <double-p> orev: anyway.. can you reach "alternative" resolvers anyway?[16:07:57] <rob0> If these are domains you don't control, and MX hosts giving NXDOMAIN, what good is soft_bounce?[16:07:58] <double-p> blackflow: qwerty[16:08:09] <blackflow> double-p: them I'm wondering in what non-euclidean space you're operating if your (long) fingernails hit j in context of ht :)[16:08:28] <double-p> blackflow: j is next to h[16:08:37] <orev> rob0: jesus christ. can you stop being so pedantic? i have already said multiple times this is a temporary issue[16:08:48] <blackflow> double-p: yeah and long fingernails should've hit y above h :)[16:09:21] <double-p> blackflow: you dont know my typing "style" :)[16:09:40] <blackflow> (years ago when I worked in publishing and pre-press, this woman I worked with had very long nails. watching her type, skillfully! was mesmerizing)[16:09:49] <double-p> orev: dig @1.1.1.1... goes or not?[16:11:16] <blackflow> orev: you can fix that temporary issue by changing your resolver. quickest way is to fix /etc/resolv.conf for a public one, like google's 8.8.8.8. but only if double-p's test with dig works. (though use 8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1 is wrong on so many levels :) )[16:12:40] <blackflow> (yeah, I'm being political about stinkflare)[16:14:06] <orev> blackflow: no. the authoritative DNS for the domain is not resolving the IP, nor are other public dns servers[16:16:20] <double-p> blackflow: i am not saying he *should* use CF/google.. but well[16:16:31] *** damyan^ <damyan^!damyan@mail.0x4711.org> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:17:13] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has joined #postfix[16:18:26] *** damyan^ <damyan^!damyan@mail.0x4711.org> has joined #postfix[16:19:04] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[16:19:35] <orev> the ttl on the records is 10 minutes, so they were purged from the cache pretty quickly, even if they were there on public dns[16:22:42] <tuxick> "bouncing" means a server accepted mail and then sends it back[16:23:13] <tuxick> mail talk without clear description or diagram leaves a lot of room for guessing[16:25:47] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:28:02] <orev> tuxick: when log says "status=bounced", what else would you call it?[16:28:25] <tuxick> boboies![16:28:30] <tuxick> boobies even[16:28:44] <double-p> bounced isnt queued[16:29:07] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:29:25] <double-p> orev: so speak up on other resolvers or well..[16:29:54] * double-p has an YT list to be done :)[16:33:23] <tuxick> i'd say if 3 nameservers agree a host/mx doesn't exist it's good enough reason to give up[16:33:53] <tuxick> don't see why you'd need to waste time fiddling around[16:34:12] <rob0> bounced means it WAS queued and is now being removed from the queue[16:34:16] <orev> double-p: the DNS resolver is not the issue! the IPs were removed by the authoritative name server, and caches expired after 10 minutes for any public resolver[16:34:39] <tuxick> so there is no problem[16:34:55] <orev> it's perfectly within the realm of reality that IPs might be removed accidentally from DNS and you want to still queue the messages[16:35:03] <tuxick> no[16:35:10] <double-p> orev: nope[16:35:17] <tuxick> i remember one occasion, many years ago[16:35:28] <tuxick> "the day they internet went down"[16:35:48] <tuxick> when someone messed up the root server[16:36:13] <orev> really hard to believe that a bunch of people in a MAIL SERVER room are being such hard a**es about following standards. we all know that we all have to deal with non-standard mail implementations and still get the mail through, regardless[16:36:34] <lunaphyte> heh[16:36:36] <rob0> huh? Standards are HOW IT WORKS[16:36:44] <double-p> orev: hang on[16:36:44] <orev> CEO doesn't give a crap whether some esoteric standard is not followed[16:36:50] <tuxick> orev: in all the years i've been dealing with dns and mail i *never* had to deal with your kind of problem[16:37:01] <rob0> but CEO can't have his way outside his org[16:37:24] <orev> tuxick: really? you never had to deal with someone accidentally removing a crucial config? i don't beleive you[16:37:31] <tuxick> trying to fix a nonexisting problem is a total waste of time[16:37:42] <rob0> A mail professional's job is to explain to the boss why mail cannot be delivered, if it cannot.[16:37:48] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has joined #postfix[16:37:59] <lunaphyte> inventing hyperbolic nonsense and calling pervasive standards "esoteric" because *you* don't like it is not reality[16:38:05] <tuxick> sure you can mess up a dns record[16:38:10] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[16:38:22] <tuxick> but no way i'm going to jump through hoops trying to make postfix handle that[16:38:34] *** rob is now known as Guest94519[16:38:53] * blackflow coins a new term: MTO Mail Transport Officer.[16:38:54] <double-p> orev: so again.. the upstream DNS is broken as you say.. is "other" reachable[16:39:01] <blackflow> hello fellow MTOs :)[16:39:11] <tuxick> :)[16:39:15] <rob0> MTF (flunky)[16:39:24] <double-p> blackflow: dont you call me.. :D[16:39:24] <tuxick> MFO[16:39:32] <orev> tuxick: it already handles many other failures in a regular way by queuing and trying again later. that behavior exists *because* it is well known that transient issues happen[16:39:34] <tuxick> manager failure officer[16:41:07] <orev> double-p: i'm really not following you. "is 'other' reachable". what is "other"? when you do a dns lookup, it fails. when you ask other naame servers, it fails. what is not clear?[16:41:35] <tuxick> it's clear that the host is no longer in dns[16:41:43] <tuxick> how often does that happen?[16:41:46] <double-p> orev: by "dig @1.1.1.1 yourproblem.com mx"[16:42:50] <blackflow> how many solutions are possible here anyway? 1) don't care about broken recipient DNS, bounce. 2) soft_bounce=y I doon't think there's a config option for something like bounce classes, is it? (only bounce notify classes)[16:42:50] <orev> double-p: how many times do i need to say "when you ask other name servers it fails" ?[16:43:02] <tuxick> actually i've seen lots of such bounces due to the almist infine ways to spell 'hotmail'[16:43:14] <tuxick> sheesh, my spelling is degrading fast[16:43:19] <double-p> orev: well, than you're between rock and hard place anyway[16:43:55] * tuxick suspects the old 'manager' problem[16:44:00] <orev> double-p: why? postfix can queue messages for many other types of failures. why not this one?[16:44:30] <tuxick> orev: there's a reason DNS has TTL[16:44:45] <double-p> orev: because NXDOMAIN is "fatal" - and unreach is a non-update[16:44:46] <tuxick> several reasons, actually[16:44:51] <lunaphyte> orev: nxdomain is NOT a failure.[16:45:35] <rob0> If you consider NXDOMAIN a DNS failure, how would you handle domains which really do not exist?[16:46:13] <lunaphyte> i already know the answer to that, no need to even ask[16:46:25] <lunaphyte> he'll queue them ALL, and insist that's "ok"[16:46:33] <rob0> You're going to accuse me of pedantry, fine. But I'm going to accuse you of failing to think this through.[16:46:43] * tuxick smells an interesting DoS attack[16:47:09] <orev> from a DNS perspective it's a valid return code, but from a mail delivery perspective it's unable to deliver, thus a failure[16:47:30] <blackflow> I think we establishd that nxdomain means "address doesn't exist, nothing to retry". so again, save for bounce classes option that I don't know exist, is there any solution other than soft_bounce=y ? (and other than ignore it and let it bounce)[16:47:40] <lunaphyte> and, the next question will then be how to also queue ALL mail that was rejected from the remote server, because "what if the user was "accidentally" disabled, and is going to be fixed"...[16:48:01] <tuxick> mailman fails to find house #42 and decides he keeps coming back until someone builds the house[16:48:06] <blackflow> lol.[16:48:36] <tuxick> ok, that analogy is bad, but still[16:48:49] <blackflow> it's quite a right one[16:48:49] <orev> tuxick: isn't that the same scenario if the server is down?[16:48:57] <blackflow> nxdomain does not include reasons[16:49:04] <lunaphyte> can we stop with the non productive, cyclical bickering, please?[16:49:11] <lunaphyte> this is not benefiting anyone here[16:49:23] <lunaphyte> postfix does not do what you want [at least as far as i know][16:49:25] <lunaphyte> that's it[16:49:37] <orev> yes, i understand the point about NXDOMAIN, i just find it odd there's not a direct way to handle that. i guess soft_bounce is it[16:49:47] <lunaphyte> if you don't like that, either modify it so it does, or ask someone else to[16:49:52] <orev> lunaphyte: this is a discussion room. if you don't want to discuss things, you don't need to[16:49:54] <blackflow> in fact, a better analogy would be, mailmain keeps on asking his boss where Street #42 is, ove and ove and refuses to return mail and keeps asking hte boss, at *_backoff_time intervals ...... UNTIL HE'S FIRED. :)[16:50:04] <tuxick> hehe agreed[16:50:16] <rob0> soft_bounce is it, and yes, it will create more problems than it solves.[16:50:18] <lunaphyte> orev: you're welcome to go ask on the mailing list the same question if you like[16:50:28] <blackflow> but then the syndicate steps and and the mailman had to be hired again......[16:50:31] <blackflow> *steps in[16:50:43] <blackflow> I mean the union.... :)[16:50:48] <lunaphyte> the "discussion" has run its course here, i think you know that[16:50:49] <tuxick> same old[16:51:06] <tuxick> thank bob it's almost monday[16:51:17] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[16:52:47] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:53:37] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[17:04:34] <cpm> dang, I missed it![17:04:38] <cpm> sleep at the kb again[17:09:39] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~poppels@81-235-33-215-no286.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:10:16] *** Guest94519 <Guest94519!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:20:24] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:23:51] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~poppels@gatekeeper01.ports.se> has joined #postfix[17:26:13] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@unaffiliated/thefam> has quit IRC (Quit: bye-nyan!)[17:26:24] *** CyberCr33p <CyberCr33p!~chris@athedsl-172574.home.otenet.gr> has joined #postfix[17:26:30] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@unaffiliated/thefam> has joined #postfix[17:31:39] <tuxick> enable the remove face stabber[17:31:42] <tuxick> remote[17:42:51] <blackflow> InstaZap(tm)[17:44:06] *** HielkeJ <HielkeJ!c323e3c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.35.227.200> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:46:13] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:50:17] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[17:57:28] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:58:05] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[17:58:28] *** rob is now known as Guest37610[17:58:29] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:59:50] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[18:10:11] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[18:11:45] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:11:53] <cpm> in other boring news, , I've finally managed to stuff my draconian postfix maps into zimbra in a way that's not too terribly kludgy. server loads *way* down now that zimbra isn't having to do nearly as much spam processing in it's own seriously topheavy way[18:13:26] *** Guest37610 <Guest37610!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:15:06] <tuxick> isn't zimbra just one of them incredibly heavy layers on top of normal mail server, just to give lookout clickes that warm fuzzy feeling?[18:16:23] <Alver> Yes.[18:16:39] <cpm> tuxick, it does actually do a reasonable job of offering shared x-platform calendars and addr book, blah blah. It does mta/imap chores well enough, , sorta, but dear god, topheavy, holy crap. :)[18:16:46] <Alver> Still, not all *that* bad[18:17:23] <rob0> depends what you are comparing it to :)[18:17:27] <tuxick> doing fine with postfix/dovecot/davical[18:17:35] <tuxick> which is about 100 times lighter'[18:17:36] <cpm> good[18:17:42] <cpm> indeed.[18:17:46] <cpm> what web interface are you using?[18:17:56] <tuxick> wet interface???[18:18:01] <cpm> hehehe[18:18:03] <cpm> fair enough. :)[18:18:08] <tuxick> why? there's a a zillion mail clients[18:18:38] <tuxick> but since squirrelmail got a bit old, i'd say roundcube[18:19:09] <cpm> yeah, roundcube ain't zimbra. it's good for email, but aside from spammers, whoa ctually uses email anymore? :)[18:19:09] <tuxick> and there's that new kid on the block with the funny name[18:19:21] <tuxick> true[18:19:37] <cpm> I miss squirelmail, one of my more fav projects in it's time.[18:19:47] <tuxick> ye[18:19:50] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[18:20:49] <cpm> gmail/outlook web clients have really raised expectations, z addresses those well. but it's soooo, , gawd, , it's just so zimbra. :)[18:25:36] <cpm> In my dreams, I was going to try and stuff my postfix-y stuff into ldap where z wants it, but that means fsck'n about with the core schema, and honestly, , I'm just too old, and the z folks don't seem to care that a lot of stuff can really be done much easier, ,[18:25:40] <cpm> java, , I rue the day[18:29:43] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.111.195.233> has joined #postfix[18:33:22] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[18:35:31] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[18:38:54] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[18:43:11] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[18:43:14] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[18:43:38] *** rob is now known as Guest26705[18:46:29] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:48:11] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[18:54:31] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:56:52] *** CyberCr33p <CyberCr33p!~chris@athedsl-172574.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: CyberCr33p)[19:05:02] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[19:19:39] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:20:09] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has joined #postfix[19:25:10] *** Guest26705 <Guest26705!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:33:40] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:34:26] *** jalalsfs_ is now known as jalalsfs[19:34:40] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[19:46:13] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[19:46:47] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:49:30] *** CyberCr33p <CyberCr33p!~chris@athedsl-172574.home.otenet.gr> has joined #postfix[19:49:35] <CyberCr33p> hello[19:50:39] <CyberCr33p> I use rspamd in a different server and use postfix milter on the mail servers. I configure it to accept e-mails if milter is down. Is it normal for postfix to auto-restart if the milter is down?[19:52:08] <rob0> If restart means master(8) restarting, no. If it means smtpd(8) restarting, maybe, I don't know.[19:55:05] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[19:55:18] <CyberCr33p> rob0 https://pastebin.com/raw/jsFQd5gU[19:55:39] <CyberCr33p> this is what happens when I shutdown the server running rspamd[19:56:12] <rob0> nope, something running as root did that for you[19:56:23] <CyberCr33p> hmmm[19:56:26] <CyberCr33p> you are right[19:56:31] <CyberCr33p> I thing monit did[19:56:35] <CyberCr33p> think*[19:56:43] <rob0> that's restarting master, which as I said, would not happen automagically[19:57:33] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[19:58:05] <CyberCr33p> I use this for monit: https://pastebin.com/raw/QGVzSsTt[19:59:01] <CyberCr33p> maybe because the monit timeout is lower than postfix milter timeout it thinks it's down and restarts it[20:01:15] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-253-72.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:12:57] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:14:02] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[20:15:51] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:30:06] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:36:34] <Intelo> Is getting dmarc reports by emails from others normal?[20:37:23] <lunaphyte> not a postfix question[20:38:39] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[20:39:13] <rob0> Before you publish DMARC records, you should know what they mean. When in doubt, no DMARC.[20:39:19] <rob0> !easy_dmarc[20:39:19] <knoba> rob0: "easy_dmarc" : If you just need a DMARC policy to help satisfy ESP recommendations you can use this to basically tell servers not to enforce DMARC on your mail: _dmarc.example.com. TXT "v=DMARC1;p=none;adkim=r;aspf=r;pct=0"[21:25:14] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@62.162.164.201> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[21:26:36] *** [sr] <[sr]!~kvirc@pal-213-228-163-73.netvisao.pt> has joined #postfix[21:26:37] <[sr]> howdy[21:27:18] <petn-randall> Intelo: If you set it up, yes.[21:27:23] <[sr]> i need to set smtputf8 in smtp, but i'm getting: postconf: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf: unused parameter: smtputf8_enable=yes[21:27:42] <[sr]> would this be 'cause of postfix be in compatibility mode?[21:28:28] <rob0> sr, what version do you have?[21:30:57] <[sr]> rob0: 2.11[21:31:11] <pj> [sr]: 2.11 does not have that capability[21:31:23] *** orev <orev!~orev@148.77.89.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:31:32] <petn-randall> [sr]: Debian jessie?[21:31:40] <double-p> unused :)[21:32:04] <[sr]> pj: damn![21:32:20] <[sr]> petn-randall: sid, but can't update since a few years ago[21:32:30] <[sr]> about from 2012 can't update it, it's a box to kill :P[21:32:41] <double-p> what cmd-line or such is injecting "plain" utf8 anyway?[21:33:09] <double-p> any modern MUA will be QP anyway[21:33:09] <petn-randall> If you haven't updated it since 2012, I'd nuke it from orbit. A internet-facing machine which is so old is probably compromised by now.[21:33:53] <petn-randall> I mean, at least oldstable and stable get security updates ...[21:33:56] <[sr]> petn-randall: nah.. even if it is, it's to disable[21:34:29] <[sr]> double-p: its just 'cause roundcube to send emails, i just discovered that some users use as password "ó ú á" and similar as password char[21:34:35] <pj> !smtputf8[21:34:35] <knoba> pj: "smtputf8" : SMTPUTF8 support in Postfix: http://www.postfix.org/SMTPUTF8_README.html[21:34:51] <pj> !smtputf8_enable[21:34:51] <knoba> pj: Error: "smtputf8_enable" is not a valid command.[21:34:58] <double-p> [sr]: oh... humppa )[21:35:10] <jimpop> is there a way to bounce an email that is on the hold queue?[21:35:26] <pj> anyways, smtputf8 support was introduced in postfix 3.0[21:35:54] <[sr]> pj: since there's no SMTPUTF8, any way to set the connection for SASL to be in utf8?[21:36:27] <[sr]> well[21:36:34] <[sr]> maybe it's sasl that needs utf8 to mysql[21:37:29] <rob0> UTF8 passwords are *not* related to SMTPUTF8[21:38:03] <double-p> [sr]: last time I checked that is encoded in base64 anyway?[21:38:13] <rob0> in fact Postfix has nothing to do with passwords, at all.[21:38:38] <[sr]> hum... rob0 well you're right, it's sasl that should be getting that in utf8 from mysql, i believe, am i right?[21:38:55] <pj> right postfix pretty much passes the base64 string that it gets directly to dovecot and dovecot just returns a yes or no answer.[21:39:07] <pj> so it's up to dovecot to support it.[21:39:31] <[sr]> double-p: sasl in this case, that's what im using for smtp auth[21:39:41] <double-p> [sr]: yeah.. base64[21:39:56] <[sr]> so the thing is in sasl[21:40:28] <[sr]> i've tried to search the other day and found nothing related to utf8 and sasl[21:40:40] <pj> [sr]: any utf8 support has to be done by the MUA and dovecot, postfix doesnt' care.[21:40:55] <pj> anyways, I have to run[21:41:03] <[sr]> tks for the help[21:57:37] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.111.195.233> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:03:12] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has left #postfix[22:14:07] *** mejo <mejo!~mejo@debian/developer/mejo> has left #postfix[22:14:11] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[22:18:11] *** CyberCr33p <CyberCr33p!~chris@athedsl-172574.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: CyberCr33p)[22:53:17] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~poppels@gatekeeper01.ports.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:57:36] *** ryan8403 <ryan8403!~ryan8403@vpn.chewning.us> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:58:47] *** alexandre9099 <alexandre9099!~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[23:00:00] *** alexandre9099 <alexandre9099!~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099> has joined #postfix[23:00:22] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side!)[23:00:43] *** CyberCr33p <CyberCr33p!~chris@athedsl-172574.home.otenet.gr> has joined #postfix[23:04:06] <CyberCr33p> I install rspamd in a server and I use postfix milter from another server to scan outgoing e-mails. I have a php script that sends mails. Before the rspamd milter the e-mails I sent using the php script where added in the postfix queue and the php script finish execution in few seconds. Now it takes a long time because it sends e-mails without using postfix queue and the php script timeouts. Any idea if it's possible to send the[23:04:07] <CyberCr33p> e-mails faster?[23:04:39] <double-p> dns?[23:05:24] <CyberCr33p> I disable the rbl checks in rspamd[23:08:56] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~poppels@81-235-33-215-no286.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #postfix[23:09:06] <double-p> CyberCr33p: you're on a thing. but i am too and drunk[23:10:21] <CyberCr33p> I am not sure if it's possible to configure rspamd to check after-queue[23:11:52] <double-p> CyberCr33p: spamd (openbsd) is upfront postifx.. just o[23:23:18] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:29:33] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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