December 27, 2018 
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December 27, 2018 [00:13:51] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:16:00] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[00:24:39] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has joined #postfix[00:34:56] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF69630.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:35:10] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF6973A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[01:19:12] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has quit IRC (Quit: shibboleth)[01:30:15] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[01:36:15] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:37:07] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[01:37:43] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[01:42:56] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:48:34] *** Guest74515 <Guest74515!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:26:10] <rjsalts> jimpop: not a postfix necessity, their exim, sendmail, mutt, etc packages use the /etc/mailname file too. It's a compatibility hack[02:26:58] <rjsalts> jimpop: so that their "base-config" package can ask you what's the domain name for the system and it'll work with all their mail infrastructure[02:37:40] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[02:38:36] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[02:54:50] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:55:14] *** rob is now known as Guest30594[02:56:10] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:01:25] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:03:01] <jimpop> rjsalts: but it's a debian specific code that is in postfix, which is odd to me.[03:03:06] <jimpop> !debian[03:03:06] <knoba> jimpop: "debian" : (#1) Please see /usr/share/doc/postfix/README.Debian for Debian-specific information. This probably applies to Ubuntu and most other Debian-derivative distributions as well., or (#2) Debian splits the syslog mail facility into several files; the one most likely to be of interest is mail.log , which contains all mail.* priority levels.[03:03:56] <jimpop> seems there was a factoid that mentioned /etc/mailname as a debian hack, but since the code is in postfix source is it a postfix hack too? :-)[03:05:03] *** Guest30594 <Guest30594!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:20:52] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B33B06F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:24:00] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B33B00E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[03:30:18] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[03:40:30] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:03:28] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[04:13:31] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:15:36] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[04:16:09] <rob0> It did start as a Debian patch, but I think it might have been adopted. You ARE looking at source from postfix.org / mirrors, right?[04:19:03] <jimpop> yep[04:19:24] <jimpop> its in the latest 3.3.x souce[04:19:34] <jimpop> *source[04:21:03] <rob0> I vaguely remember seeing some discussion about it on list, but I don't know when that was.[04:21:32] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[05:02:32] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[05:02:56] *** rob is now known as Guest80711[05:06:47] *** Guest80711 <Guest80711!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:08:38] *** dskull <dskull!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[05:24:11] *** andylavarre <andylavarre!~andy@mobile-107-107-60-47.mycingular.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:38:54] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:40:11] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[05:49:54] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:51:06] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[05:56:15] <pj> Just because somethng starts as a debian (or other) patch does not mean it isn't a good idea and won't eventually make it into postfix proper. There are lots of postfix features that started off as 3rd-party patches.[05:57:38] <pj> I can name at least two other things that started off as 3rd-party patch sets and made it into postfix off the top of my head ... good features.[05:59:27] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:00:37] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[06:14:04] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[06:15:15] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[06:15:15] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:15:27] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[06:16:41] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[06:54:03] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:02:42] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[07:03:05] *** rob is now known as Guest10444[07:08:06] *** Guest10444 <Guest10444!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[07:25:12] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@185.57.82.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[07:29:06] *** jcarpenter2 <jcarpenter2!~rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:f9fb:2fe2:9988:88db> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:29:11] *** rofl_ <rofl_!rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:f9fb:2fe2:9988:88db> has joined #postfix[07:38:06] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@185.57.82.26> has joined #postfix[07:40:03] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!jwpierce3@001.srv.trnkmstr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[07:40:43] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!jwpierce3@001.srv.trnkmstr.com> has joined #postfix[07:44:50] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[08:08:54] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has joined #postfix[08:16:45] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[08:18:37] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[08:29:10] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[08:32:04] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[08:32:10] <Intelo> What does this means? "iprev" check: fail[08:32:12] <Intelo> DKIM check: none[09:02:56] *** MelMalik is now known as Reinhilde[09:04:38] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[09:05:01] *** rob is now known as Guest80491[09:07:24] *** |subz3r0| <|subz3r0|!~|subz3r0|@unaffiliated/subz3r0/x-1361105> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[09:08:00] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has joined #postfix[09:16:38] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:17:16] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[09:19:50] *** |subz3r0| <|subz3r0|!~|subz3r0|@unaffiliated/subz3r0/x-1361105> has joined #postfix[09:21:24] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:22:29] <Intelo> What should be the path of smtpd_milters = in ubuntu 18?[09:40:46] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[09:42:04] *** TheL0singEdge <TheL0singEdge!~TheL0sing@unaffiliated/thel0singedge> has joined #postfix[09:42:38] *** golden_receiver <golden_receiver!~golden_re@unaffiliated/golden-receiver/x-4949035> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[09:43:01] *** golden_receiver <golden_receiver!~golden_re@unaffiliated/golden-receiver/x-4949035> has joined #postfix[09:43:54] *** TheL0sin_ <TheL0sin_!~TheL0sing@unaffiliated/thel0singedge> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[09:59:19] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:05:15] <Intelo> nvm, fixed[10:13:02] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has joined #postfix[10:16:28] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-254-0.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[10:23:35] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:23:55] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[10:55:27] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:818d:5c95:7ec9:d8bd> has joined #postfix[11:01:43] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[11:11:54] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:19:59] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:20:36] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[11:27:34] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[11:36:23] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:818d:5c95:7ec9:d8bd> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:36:58] *** mejo <mejo!~mejo@debian/developer/mejo> has joined #postfix[11:37:10] <mejo> hello everybody[11:38:15] <survietamine> hello[11:39:17] <mejo> I've a simple question regarding transport_maps:[11:41:08] <mejo> I have 'address at example dot org transportxy:' in my transport map, but it doesn't hit.[11:42:05] <mejo> postfix always says NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.example.org[0.0.0.0]: 550 5.1.1 <address at example dot org>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table;[11:44:49] <double-p> and what's transportxy supposed to do?[11:48:23] <survietamine> it does transport XY problem to /dev/null[11:48:32] <mejo> double-p: it's a mailinglists transport[11:49:03] <mejo> but apparently the mail is not delivered to transportxy at all. otherwise it would show up in the logs there.[11:54:08] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[11:58:19] <mejo> it seems like the defined transport map isn't hit. postfix says it doesn't know a user belonging to the localpart.[12:00:27] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[12:04:34] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[12:10:34] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has joined #postfix[12:17:24] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:21:27] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[12:30:58] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[12:38:19] <mejo> ok, I found the problem. I had to list example.org in relay_domains in order for the transport_map entries for the domain to be used.[12:38:29] <rob0> no[12:38:44] <rob0> transport_maps are for outbound[12:38:59] <rob0> inbound, you don't have that user or alias[12:39:22] <rob0> !unknown_local[12:39:22] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_local" : User unknown in local recipient table means that the recipient domain was found in $mydestination but the username was not found in local_recipient_maps (by default: users in /etc/passwd and aliases(5) in /etc/aliases).[12:40:25] <rob0> The reason why your relay_domains hack works, relay_recipient_maps is by default empty.[12:42:22] <rob0> So you moved it out of the local domain class into the relay domain class (you must also remove example.org from mydestination for this to work.)[12:43:20] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-107-243.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[12:48:44] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined 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mailinglist transport, the transport_map should be correct, no?[19:06:07] <mejo> or virtual_mailbox_domains and virtual_mailbox_maps?[19:11:32] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)[19:13:04] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has joined #postfix[19:14:56] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:17:32] <rob0> Local domain class would mean alias_maps or create a system user.[19:17:56] <mejo> ok, so virtual domain class is probably the right class to handle this?[19:18:15] <rob0> for GNU Mailman it's very simple to add the Mailman aliases to alias_maps[19:18:47] <rob0> Virtual mailbox or virtual alias class is very ugly for this[19:19:53] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)[19:20:03] <rob0> and ^^ with this you don't need any special transport, local(8) handles it, and permissions are correct[19:20:32] <mejo> it's for the schleuder mailinglist manager[19:20:49] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has joined #postfix[19:20:58] <rob0> probably similar to Mailman in terms of MTA interaction[19:22:38] *** gturner <gturner!~gturner@zoth-ommog.unzane.com> has joined #postfix[19:34:47] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)[19:36:01] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has joined #postfix[19:44:36] <rob0> If they tell you it needs a special transport for Postfix, there are two possibilities: 1: you do need it; 2: they don't understand Postfix very well.[19:44:44] *** kurkale6ka <kurkale6ka!~kurkale6k@84.45.99.125> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)[19:47:48] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p2E542701.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:09:36] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:14:18] 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seconds)[22:03:46] *** jalalsfs_ is now known as jalalsfs[22:06:19] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~poppels@81-235-33-215-no286.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #postfix[22:22:14] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:29:45] *** gturner <gturner!~gturner@zoth-ommog.unzane.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:33:14] *** gturner <gturner!~gturner@zoth-ommog.unzane.com> has joined #postfix[22:40:27] *** gturner <gturner!~gturner@zoth-ommog.unzane.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:44:20] *** gturner <gturner!~gturner@zoth-ommog.unzane.com> has joined #postfix[22:49:59] <Intelo> Is there a limit in MTAs on number of BCC recipients per message to send?[22:51:36] <rob0> bcc? To MTAs, BCC is not a factor, there is only RCPT TO. And yes, Postfix has a RCPT limit.[22:52:40] <Intelo> rob0, whats the rcpt limit?[22:52:53] <Intelo> rob0, theres 3 fields. TO, CC, BCC[22:53:02] <Intelo> are you calling TO as RCPT?[22:56:08] <rob0> fields?[22:56:25] <rob0> To MTAs, BCC is not a factor, there is only RCPT TO.[22:56:48] <rob0> I guess you don't understand much about mail/SMTP?[23:02:01] <blackflow> what rob0 is trying to say here is that "(B)CC" is not an MTA but a MUA concept. MTAs (and SMTP really) only care about RCPT TO. so your MUA is creating and sending one copy for each recipient listed under (B)CC.[23:02:35] <rob0> I'd also suggest backing up a bit to ask the real question.[23:02:55] <rob0> It's probably not on topic here, but maybe we can point you to a better place.[23:04:18] <blackflow> (and in fact I even think you can supply multiple RCPT TO per SMTP session? connect, hello, mail from, rcpt to, rcpt to, ...., data, quit ?[23:04:45] <rob0> yes, Postfix has a configurable RCPT limit[23:05:15] <rob0> after which any additional RCPT would get 4xx[23:05:19] <blackflow> right so it's not strictly one copy per recipient, depends on how the client actually implements it[23:06:05] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:06:23] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[23:06:53] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:07:10] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[23:07:41] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:08:09] <Intelo> hm[23:08:55] <Intelo> rob0, blackflow whats the limit?[23:09:22] <Intelo> rob0, can I change config to make it unlimited?[23:09:45] <Intelo> blackflow, I want to send emails to many in one shot.[23:09:59] <rob0> !smtpd_recipient_limit[23:10:00] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_recipient_limit" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The maximal number of recipients that the Postfix SMTP server accepts per message delivery request.[23:10:25] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[23:10:32] <rob0> you can't change that limit on servers you don't control[23:10:52] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:10:54] <blackflow> and you don't want unlimited recipients either[23:11:13] <Intelo> rob0, I control my server[23:11:19] <Intelo> blackflow, why?[23:11:35] <Intelo> blackflow, well. 1000 rcpt[23:11:41] <rob0> I think Intelo is talking about Postfix as a client, smtp(8).[23:11:42] <blackflow> because that's a quick way to get blacklisted. if your use case is legit, pause between batches.[23:11:51] <Intelo> rob0, as an MTA[23:12:22] <rob0> you can raise your own smtpd_recipient_limit as you see fit[23:12:26] <blackflow> rob0: that's what I assumed, limit on submission I suppose[23:12:27] <Intelo> blackflow, every rcpt would be having a unque smtp host[23:12:41] <Intelo> so no blacklist[23:12:48] <lunaphyte> nothing should ever, ever, be unlimited.[23:12:51] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[23:12:52] <blackflow> sounds like spamming[23:12:56] <Intelo> lunaphyte, agreed[23:12:59] <lunaphyte> that would be very shortsighted and foolish[23:13:00] <rob0> Spamming WILL get blacklisted[23:13:18] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:14:32] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[23:15:09] <Intelo> lunaphyte, if we observe how spam is caught, a) you send 3 emails in a minute to gmail, it blocks you. = dont; send 3 mails to different smtps in a minute. Well send 1000 mails to different smtp host provided emails in one second == 1000mails/s. You would send 60000 mails in a minut before anyone hits the 'spam' button[23:15:26] <Intelo> just discussing ^. What do you think?[23:16:58] <Intelo> your server ip gets black listed in 10 mins, add 5 more. at the end of the hour, you have sent 1 million emails[23:18:07] <rob0> Spam is caught in many ways, not merjust rate limiting.[23:18:16] <blackflow> well, your hosting company will want to ahve a word. unless you're using one of those shady ones that are surely already blacklisted.[23:18:33] <rob0> And when your purchased list hits a spamtrap address, you will quickly become widely blacklisted.[23:18:37] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[23:18:47] <rob0> which is as it should be[23:18:50] <blackflow> in particular, I like to use spamhaus because they don't shy from slapping whole subnets there.[23:19:26] <blackflow> rob0: and a guaranteed outcome for pretty much any purchased list.[23:19:37] <rob0> it is, yes[23:20:11] <Intelo> so theres no way to use my list?[23:20:26] <rob0> as we told you before, Intelo, STOP SPAMMING, that's how to stay off blacklists.[23:20:50] <rob0> we actually do not like spammers here[23:21:19] <Intelo> rob0, don't judge people.[23:22:32] <rob0> okay, enough. We will not help spammers here. 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