December 21, 2018 
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#postfix[18:26:28] <twanny796> !vacation[18:26:28] <knoba> twanny796: Error: "vacation" is not a valid command.[18:26:43] <twanny796> Vacation message[18:26:44] <twanny796> ?[18:28:37] <double-p> twanny796: typically something for sieve[18:29:00] <blackflow> backscatterer's dark delight.[18:29:40] <double-p> :)[18:31:21] *** thansen <thansen!~thansen@mx.thansen.me> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:32:09] <rob0> "vacation" is not implemented nor provided by Postfix. Sieve, if you go that way, would be a #dovecot question. But here we will tell you that autoresponders are pretty much always evil.[18:32:50] *** thansen <thansen!~thansen@mx.thansen.me> has joined #postfix[18:34:27] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:37:07] *** thansen <thansen!~thansen@mx.thansen.me> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:37:34] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:37:56] *** thansen <thansen!~thansen@mx.thansen.me> has joined #postfix[18:38:32] * blackflow ponders the amplification factor of autoresponders for his new smtp based ddos botnet![18:47:03] <tuxick> now is they time to test it[18:47:55] <double-p> already had two ddos over the last 10 days.. cheers[18:48:37] <tuxick> just some botnets trying to bruteforce our webshop[18:49:00] <blackflow> I'm already under DoS by very "smart" people who send their 2MB embedded xmass greeting card to 400+ addresses all in the To: field. From GMail. How is GMail allowing that is beyond me. If I did the reverse (one mail, 400+ recipients), I'd be instabanned from their network.[18:49:01] <tuxick> beside the usual mess :)[18:49:17] <double-p> blackflow: noice![18:49:33] <tuxick> blackflow: wait for the autoreplies!![18:49:41] <blackflow> Holy...... ![18:49:48] <double-p> tuxick: just some lame UDP/GRE flooding attacks so far.. just it seems the app is going haywire when DNS is foobar[18:50:23] <tuxick> but yeah, gmail should reject such To: mess[18:50:33] <tuxick> it sure pissed me off[18:50:37] <tuxick> pisses[18:50:38] <double-p> yeah[18:50:56] <blackflow> I might block gmail until after the holidays and blame it on GMail. as if the clients would know better :) Yes, I'm a BofH.[18:51:16] <tuxick> :)[18:51:22] <blackflow> this chan isn't logged is it? I swear, your honor, members of the jury, I'm just joking.[18:51:42] <rob0> ^^ logged, see /topic[18:52:06] <blackflow> Yikes![18:52:07] <tuxick> i know our web/mail hosting servers are in penalty time already, they should have been blacklisted already[18:52:09] <double-p> blackflow: point in case.. lemme show if i am still BOFH with RIPE :)[18:52:40] <tuxick> just like at previous job they don't believe backscatter and forwarding are bad[18:52:50] <double-p> yep.. created: 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z .. *SMIRKS* :)[18:53:29] <blackflow> jokes aside Imma go (ab)use holidays to migrate the MTA to another server. IP change will most certainly lead to temporary mail blockage, blacklists, reputation taking a hit, but..... I really am gonna blame it on holiday spam with their greeting cards.[18:54:23] <double-p> blackflow: cheers.. i'll move imap (and delivering postfix for the heck of ontopic) to a new cluster afternoon the 24th :)[18:55:55] <blackflow> good idea.[18:56:23] <blackflow> btw... how long are those logs gonna keep the history. I never signed by consent given I'm an EU citizen protected by GDPR :)[18:56:27] <double-p> time for eric idle xmas song :D[18:59:33] <double-p> blackflow: haha.. saw that story about an amazon/non-alexa guy requesting the gdpr-infopackage. got 1700 WAVs from a completly different person[19:00:16] * rob0 has no clue about logs[19:00:16] <rob0> I think you consented by entering a channel which is logged and announces that in /topic :)[19:00:25] <twanny796> I though auto-responder was an easy thing[19:00:34] <double-p> rob0: that's not really an opt-in to start with[19:00:44] <double-p> twanny796: yeah.. guns are an easy thing[19:00:53] <double-p> esp to shoot in the foot[19:03:55] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:04:37] <rob0> double-p, I am sure that if anyone tried to sue over IRC channel logs, pretty much any court in the world would laugh at them. :)[19:05:08] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[19:05:20] <double-p> rob0: "wazza legal entitiy?" :)[19:06:02] <double-p> RIPE what did you do to the website.. *sigh*[19:06:11] <tuxick> twanny796: it's the most hated thing in mail land[19:06:29] <tuxick> vacation is a horrible hack anyway, use sieve[19:07:14] <tuxick> last time i looked vacation needed ftp access[19:07:39] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:07:49] <double-p> huh?[19:08:14] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[19:08:22] <tuxick> to put the needed files in place[19:08:30] <tuxick> well, ftp was one of the possible hacks[19:08:49] <double-p> which 'vacation'? i'm using it sieve for >10y and procmail before and no ftp involved[19:09:14] <tuxick> the thing called vacation[19:09:29] <tuxick> yup, still exists[19:09:40] * double-p blinks[19:10:40] <blackflow> rob0: except EU. GDPR is specifically designed to curb implied and "hey you're using it, you agreed with the terms" "consent" :) If I was sufficiently petty and had money to burn, Id contest this in EU as violation of GDPR.[19:10:56] <blackflow> (and would likely win the case)[19:11:14] <double-p> blackflow: https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/query?searchtext=BOFH&source=RIPE&bflag=true#resultsSection[19:11:56] <blackflow> lol![19:12:38] <double-p> blackflow: created in '98 or so[19:13:39] <rob0> haha, who would you sue? freenode itself?[19:14:22] <blackflow> rob0: no, echelog[19:15:23] <blackflow> sounds like a joke, I know, but.... in my business we've had lawyers demanding that we introduce a "GDPR consent" checkbox in contact forms. 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