December 14, 2018 
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December 14, 2018 [00:03:45] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in)[00:07:44] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has joined #postfix[00:25:29] *** ntd <ntd!~ntd@gateway/tor-sasl/ntd> has quit IRC (Quit: ntd)[00:29:43] *** eelstrebor_ <eelstrebor_!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:31:03] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[00:35:16] *** mTeK <mTeK!~quassel@216.249.97.206> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:36:32] *** girzel <girzel!~user@207.109.85.82> has joined #postfix[00:39:10] <girzel> hey folks. I'm trying to allow a Django site to send out automated emails using my personal login information, but with a sender address of postbot at <mydomain> dot org. Ie, eric at <mydomain> dot org should be allowed to send as postbot at <mydomain> dot org.[00:39:19] <girzel> my smtpd_sender_restrictions are: permit_mynetworks, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/access, reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_sender_login_mismatch[00:39:58] <girzel> smtpd_sender_login_maps = $virtual_mailbox_maps[00:40:26] <girzel> virtual_mailbox_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_mailbox_users[00:40:49] <girzel> and in /etc/postfix/virtual_mailbox_users:[00:41:07] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:41:07] *** rob__ <rob__!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:41:08] <girzel> postbot at <mydomain> dot org eric at <mydomain> dot org[00:41:16] <girzel> is there something more I'm missing[00:41:26] <girzel> ?[00:48:07] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF6946F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:48:22] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF69297.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[00:55:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:57:11] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[01:05:57] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:06:37] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:07:21] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[01:09:12] *** Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde[01:09:51] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@2a03:4000:6:374::5> has joined #postfix[01:09:51] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@2a03:4000:6:374::5> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:09:51] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has joined #postfix[01:12:03] *** mTeK <mTeK!~quassel@192.151.137.68> has joined #postfix[01:12:07] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[01:12:07] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[01:12:30] *** rob is now known as Guest84856[01:17:22] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:17:22] *** Guest84856 <Guest84856!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:36:14] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[01:36:37] *** rob__ <rob__!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[01:37:22] <petn-randall> girzel: Do you know the difference between the "From:" mail header and the SMTP "from"?[01:37:51] <petn-randall> girzel: Because you can set whatever you want in the mail as from.[01:38:58] <girzel> Yar, I know[01:39:36] <girzel> But it is possible to allow my user to send using "postbot" as the SMTP "from", right?[01:40:47] *** rob__ <rob__!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:41:02] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:43:58] <petn-randall> girzel: Sure, as long as it matches before reject_sender_login_mismatch. Or you add http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_sender_login_maps[01:44:38] <anexit> Is there a way in header_checks I can have a regular expression that says From name must include this domain name or reject?[01:46:44] <petn-randall> anexit: reject_sender_login_mismatch[01:47:38] <girzel> petn-randall: yes, I have smtpd_sender_login_maps set! See above[01:48:11] <anexit> petn-randall: This is for incoming email that is spoofing our ceo of the company[01:48:21] <lunaphyte> anexit: you could, yes, but it's unlikely this would be wise[01:48:37] <petn-randall> girzel: So what's your question? Seems as though you have everything in place.[01:48:58] <lunaphyte> anexit: i'd suggest more clearly defining what you actually mean when you say "From name"[01:49:33] <anexit> So the email comes in with our CEO's name "Linda L. Mist" <ceo at aol dot com>[01:49:56] <anexit> Users see that and are opted to go buy gift cards.. but the email address is not right by any means[01:50:05] <lunaphyte> girzel: if you want the sasl user eric to be able to use the envelope sender postbot at example dot com, then smtpd_sender_login_maps will need to reflect that[01:50:07] <girzel> petn-randall: outgoing mails are still getting rejected, with the "not owned by user" message[01:50:23] <lunaphyte> alternatively, you could forgo use of reject_sender_login_mismatch[01:50:32] <anexit> So we created rules in spamassassin which tosses these emails into junk.. but users go to junk and still do it.[01:50:40] <petn-randall> !tell girzel getting_help[01:50:40] <knoba> girzel: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[01:51:11] <lunaphyte> girzel: user postmap -q to test your smtpd_sender_login_maps lookup table[01:51:11] <girzel> Okay thanks, but there wasn't much config, and I did paste it when I asked my question...[01:51:23] <girzel> okay, will try that[01:51:36] <lunaphyte> for further help, follow the !getting_help instructions as shared with you above[01:51:56] <lunaphyte> anexit: you could do that. it will likely cause problems at some point[01:52:45] <lunaphyte> why do people buy gift cards when they see the ceo's name? i don't understand that[01:54:46] <anexit> haha[01:54:48] <anexit> morons[01:56:19] *** girzel <girzel!~user@207.109.85.82> has quit IRC (Quit: will work on this later)[01:56:20] <anexit> From:[^\r\n]*(Name1|Name2|Name3)[^\r\n]*\b[^\r\n]* at (?!yourdomain\ dot tld)\b[^\r\n]*\s$[01:56:51] <lunaphyte> the problem is that header checks are global[01:57:07] <petn-randall> anexit: Don't be so hard on yourself.[01:57:11] <lunaphyte> so how will you disallow just that?[01:59:33] <lunaphyte> if you reject all mail with "From: "Linda L. Mist" <ceo at example dot com>", how will your ceo send email to anyone?[02:00:14] <petn-randall> She doesn't. Problem solved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[02:00:51] <anexit> :P[02:01:06] <anexit> There is another sending email server she uses[02:01:18] <anexit> This email server is a mail gateway only on the recieve end[02:01:25] <lunaphyte> uh...[02:01:31] <lunaphyte> think about that for a moment...[02:01:49] <lunaphyte> if she sends an email to an employee, where is that email going to go?[02:03:30] <anexit> The postfix server accepts emails and then transports it to a large postfix farm with dovecot. Internal emails only happen inside that farm. The hope is that any emails coming inbound that do not match her name and domain are rejected[02:04:14] <anexit> Although that could cause some backscatter as there was quite a few rejected today.. about 100 or so made it through[02:04:28] <lunaphyte> if that's the case, then yes you could do that[02:05:02] <lunaphyte> until a legit email comes from the internet with that from: header, and causes a problem[02:05:10] <lunaphyte> that will happen, eventually[02:05:26] <anexit> As long as it matches her name and our domain I think it will be okay[02:05:40] <lunaphyte> why don't you just match your domain entirely?[02:05:41] <anexit> It's the emails that match her name but don't match our domain[02:05:53] <lunaphyte> oh, what do you mean?[02:06:54] <anexit> So a spammer sends email with spammer at aol dot com but matches her name "Linda Mist" I want these rejected. IF it matches her name "Linda Mist" and the domain name ourcompany.com.. then we accept[02:06:59] <anexit> hopefully that makes sense?[02:07:11] <lunaphyte> i see[02:07:12] <anexit> so[02:07:15] <anexit> yeah[02:07:25] <anexit> I just need to accomplish this somehow :D[02:07:41] <lunaphyte> i would use pcre[02:07:42] <anexit> my regular expression is rusty[02:07:55] <lunaphyte> there's a helpful freenode channel[02:08:08] <petn-randall> Only for pcre?[02:08:13] <anexit> wouldn't be #pcre?[02:08:18] <anexit> :P[02:08:19] <lunaphyte> #regexp[02:08:23] <anexit> aye[02:08:24] <petn-randall> Wow, good to know :)[02:11:49] <anexit> yeah I didn't know that[02:12:41] *** darkphoenix <darkphoenix!quasselcor@unaffiliated/darkphoenix> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:13:01] *** Ether_Man_ <Ether_Man_!~Ether_Man@unaffiliated/ether-man/x-1546665> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:13:32] <anexit> Thanks[02:15:04] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:15:16] <lunaphyte> !regex[02:15:16] <knoba> lunaphyte: "regex" : some people, when confronted with a problem, think i know, i'll use regular expressions. now they have two problems. (jamie zawinski)[02:15:38] *** rob is now known as Guest26190[02:17:32] *** darkphoenix <darkphoenix!quasselcor@unaffiliated/darkphoenix> has joined #postfix[02:20:12] *** Guest26190 <Guest26190!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:22:57] *** darkphoenix <darkphoenix!quasselcor@unaffiliated/darkphoenix> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:23:33] *** darkphoenix <darkphoenix!quasselcor@unaffiliated/darkphoenix> has joined #postfix[02:31:39] *** keanne <keanne!~kenneth@119.92.123.29> has joined #postfix[02:36:35] <anexit> :P[02:38:30] <blackflow> noobs. :)[02:54:40] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:55:03] *** rob is now known as Guest10748[02:59:41] *** Guest10748 <Guest10748!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:01:17] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[03:14:53] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has joined #postfix[03:28:32] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[03:33:13] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:33:44] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B2E2B57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:38:25] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B2E2FCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[03:44:13] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:44:54] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[03:58:40] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[03:59:46] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:01:52] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:02:05] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:02:09] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[04:02:32] *** rob is now known as Guest95447[04:07:32] *** Guest95447 <Guest95447!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:12:24] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:13:55] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[04:16:12] *** WakiMiko <WakiMiko!~WakiMiko@unaffiliated/wakimiko> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[04:17:02] *** ochristi <ochristi!~ochristi@chris.any.mx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:20:46] *** treehug88 <treehug88!~textual@pool-98-113-184-194.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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<phoenixz!~quassel@mx1.capmegamail.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:23:40] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[08:47:20] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[08:47:43] *** rob is now known as Guest21664[09:01:31] *** Guest21664 <Guest21664!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:02:13] *** BlackBishop <BlackBishop!~dexter@ipv6.d3xt3r01.tk> has joined #postfix[09:02:44] <BlackBishop> hi again awesome peeps ![09:02:54] <BlackBishop> warning: not enough free space in mail queue: 59342848 bytes < 1.5*message size limit[09:03:21] <BlackBishop> but I do have enough space in /var/spool/postfix/[09:03:30] <BlackBishop> /dev/mapper/vgroot-lvvar 193152 19810 173342 11% /var[09:03:32] <BlackBishop> /dev/mapper/vgroot-lvvar 2.9G 2.5G 300M 90% /var[09:03:44] <BlackBishop> any ideas on how I could debug this further ?[09:04:45] <Zerberus> !getting_help[09:04:45] <knoba> Zerberus: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[09:05:07] <BlackBishop> !showconfig[09:05:07] <knoba> BlackBishop: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[09:05:13] <BlackBishop> !pastebin[09:05:13] <knoba> BlackBishop: "pastebin" : A pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, pastebin.ca, paste.ee, ptpb.pw, ix.io and many others. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[09:05:30] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[09:05:32] *** rob__ <rob__!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[09:06:09] <BlackBishop> http://dpaste.com/0GCT9FJ[09:07:47] <Zerberus> that's bigger than message_size_limit = 40960000[09:07:57] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has joined #postfix[09:11:29] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:11:38] *** rob__ <rob__!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:12:50] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:13:00] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[09:13:01] *** rob__ <rob__!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[09:15:20] *** Konichiwa <Konichiwa!~Konichiwa@host-72-175-167-98.ftm-co.client.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:21:38] <BlackBishop> Zerberus: but the message says it doesn't have space in the queue nota that it's bigger than the limit[09:24:18] <Zerberus> you haven't provided log content showing the full trace of the message[09:27:15] *** Konichiwa <Konichiwa!~Konichiwa@host-72-175-167-98.ftm-co.client.bresnan.net> has joined #postfix[09:35:20] *** Vamp898 <Vamp898!c19e33fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.158.51.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:40:36] <BlackBishop> Zerberus: http://dpaste.com/18PZYG5[09:42:35] <Zerberus> what's that: /dev/mapper/vgroot-lvvar 193152 19810 173342 11% /var[09:44:53] <BlackBishop> df -i[09:49:59] <Alver> This has nothing to do with inodes[09:50:15] <Alver> Hell, in any reasonably recent file system, inodes do not matter anymore[09:52:21] <BlackBishop> I agree, but I thought ... who knows, inodes have bitten me in the past[09:59:31] <Alver> ... but hasn't the answer already been given by Zerberus, an hour ago[09:59:46] <Alver> 59342848 bytes < 1.5*message size limit, message_size_limit = 40960000[09:59:53] <Alver> I mean, it doesn't get much clearer than that[10:01:50] <BlackBishop> ok, so it's just the message text that's missleading then .. "not enough free space in mail queue" and "Insufficient system storage"[10:02:31] <BlackBishop> increased the size, shall see how that goes[10:03:49] <BlackBishop> I've had others though[10:03:51] <BlackBishop> Dec 11 20:42:02 cobra postfix/smtpd[7004]: NOQUEUE: reject: MAIL from o7.p12.mailjet.com[87.253.237.7]: 452 4.3.1 Insufficient system storage; proto=ESMTP helo=<o7.p12.mailjet.com>[10:03:53] <BlackBishop> Dec 11 20:42:02 cobra postfix/smtpd[7004]: warning: not enough free space in mail queue: 31395840 bytes < 1.5*message size limit[10:04:13] <BlackBishop> from what I understand in this message[10:04:31] <survietamine> lol[10:04:33] <BlackBishop> it says mail queue free space is 31395840 bytes which is lower than 1.5* message size limit[10:04:53] <BlackBishop> so there is not enough free space in the mail queue partition or something[10:05:31] <survietamine> are you sure that's in /var partition?[10:05:40] <survietamine> or do you have specific partition for postfix?[10:05:44] <BlackBishop> survietamine: how can I check that it's otherwise ?[10:06:05] <BlackBishop> root@cobra:/var/log# df -h /var/spool/postfix/[10:06:07] <BlackBishop> /dev/mapper/vgroot-lvvar 2.9G 2.5G 299M 90% /var[10:06:09] <BlackBishop> so it's var[10:08:16] <survietamine> hmm, df only output that /dev/mapper/vgroot-lvvar line?[10:08:52] <BlackBishop> for 'df -h /var/spool/postfix/' ?[10:09:29] <BlackBishop> http://dpaste.com/2JA54T5[10:09:32] <BlackBishop> here's a bigger output[10:10:59] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:19:58] <BlackBishop> I do get other emails though, maybe it's really a timing issue when there's actually no space in /var ?![10:21:28] <survietamine> ah[10:21:42] <survietamine> I didn't notice, that was old maillog entry[10:22:09] <survietamine> yeah, maybe it was full[10:22:21] <survietamine> do you have some monitoring about storage?[10:22:31] <survietamine> with history[10:23:01] <BlackBishop> yep, checking now[10:24:05] <survietamine> it's sure that if you check df now for old entry, that may not match :)[10:24:18] <BlackBishop> makes sense[10:24:38] <BlackBishop> and it makes sense why mails work now and I can't reproduce[10:26:38] <BlackBishop> yep[10:26:45] <BlackBishop> that was it, /var has some spikes[10:26:52] <BlackBishop> going below that threshold[10:26:58] <BlackBishop> setting an alert for it now.[10:31:26] <BlackBishop> so the way I understood the message was ok ! there really wasn't space and it wasn't really related to the message size[10:36:35] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[10:36:46] *** ltomasbo3 <ltomasbo3!~ltomasbo@h31-8-78-126.dyn.bashtel.ru> has joined #postfix[10:37:33] *** ltomasbo3 <ltomasbo3!~ltomasbo@h31-8-78-126.dyn.bashtel.ru> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:38:18] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:38:44] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[10:40:24] *** keanne <keanne!~kenneth@119.92.123.29> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:44:19] <survietamine> maybe give more space to your var partition[10:44:45] <BlackBishop> I would, but as you can see, the partition table is messed up[10:44:57] <BlackBishop> I'd rather create a new machine and make it all better[10:46:44] <survietamine> mess up?[10:46:46] <Alver> It's LVM[10:46:55] <survietamine> that looked normal to me[10:46:59] <Alver> Unless your VG is full, it's triviql to extend it[10:47:08] <survietamine> even if today I have very few servers with lvm[10:47:08] <Alver> .. oh, bugger, switching keyboqrds[10:47:19] <survietamine> hehe[10:47:23] <Alver> survietamine: partitions are 80s technology and have to die :)[10:47:36] <survietamine> yes, we are trying[10:48:13] <survietamine> we gave a try to glusterfs but have problems[10:48:34] <survietamine> also with zfs, sometimes we have problems, but we are not filesystems gurus[10:49:16] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:49:52] <survietamine> Alver: nowadays, you don't make any partition?[10:50:15] <BlackBishop> http://dpaste.com/2Y5EPVS clean ?[10:50:15] <Alver> survietamine: none whatsoever[10:50:48] <Alver> Wait, technically speaking I do; I have a USB stick with a /boot partition (but it's only used in emergencies, in case PXE breaks down)[10:50:57] <BlackBishop> there are like 10 users in total, I doubt there's a need to have a lvm for each starting letter[10:51:26] <survietamine> Alver: hmm, that usb key is for your servers?[10:51:51] <Alver> For my home server, yes[10:51:53] <BlackBishop> and of course there's extra confusion when looking at /home which doesn't have anything in .. dead space because everything has a lvm and it's separate from what /home shows up[10:52:04] <Alver> The ones in the DC do have one partition for the first boot disk[10:52:16] <BlackBishop> anyhow, it'd be easier for me to just make it all from scratch rather than trying to clean it up[10:52:24] <BlackBishop> I could update/upgrade too at the same time[10:52:34] <BlackBishop> anyhow, thanks for helping debug ![10:52:35] <Alver> BlackBishop: sounds like a plan[10:53:10] <survietamine> Alver: ok, do you have distributed fs?[10:53:22] <survietamine> or some clustering?[10:53:45] <Alver> Not on lunix[10:53:51] <survietamine> ok[10:53:57] * Alver has some on VMS, but that's a different topic altogether :)[10:54:14] <Alver> I've had very good experiences with OCFS2 on Linux[10:54:18] <Alver> GFS... not so much[10:54:45] <survietamine> ocfs is object storage?[10:55:33] <Alver> No, Oracle Cluster File System[10:55:51] <survietamine> ok[10:56:07] <Alver> I haven't seen many use cases for distributed file systems anyway[11:26:58] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[11:27:31] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read 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<Columbo0815!~Columbo08@HSI-KBW-109-192-087-081.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #postfix[16:32:04] *** derek_v19 <derek_v19!~derek_v@49.207.128.155> has joined #postfix[16:32:31] *** derek_v19 <derek_v19!~derek_v@49.207.128.155> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:50:08] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:53:40] <plantroon> lunaphyte: yes I did and there is no information on whether that can be done. Everybody just turns smtputf8 off when using postfix with dovecot[16:54:02] <lunaphyte> i'm not sure i follow.[16:54:26] <lunaphyte> that document explains what can be done. not what can't be done[17:02:52] *** edux__ <edux__!~edux@136-42-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[17:03:34] *** edux_ <edux_!~edux@136-42-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[17:06:28] *** edux_ <edux_!~edux@136-42-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:07:14] *** edux__ <edux__!~edux@136-42-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:13:05] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@45-251-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:13:44] *** migy <migy!~migy@static.59.240.9.5.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Quit: migy)[17:14:57] *** migy <migy!~migy@static.59.240.9.5.clients.your-server.de> has joined #postfix[17:18:46] <plantroon> lunaphyte: well the end result is, that I have to turn smtputf8 off for dovecot to work. And I was thinking that maybe such headers can be detected and converted to ascii by postfix.[17:32:20] *** Columbo0815 <Columbo0815!~Columbo08@HSI-KBW-109-192-087-081.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:36:43] <rob0> hmm, strange. Perhaps the fix is to be had in #dovecot? TBH this is the first I heard about "everybody just turns smtputf8 off when using postfix with dovecot," what have I missed?[17:37:16] <n_1-c_k> plantroon: since you punctured my pristing ignorance of SMTPUTF8 I discovered I have it enabled in postfix. I'm able to receive mail with a utf8 subject into dovecot however, if my test is valid.[17:37:27] <n_1-c_k> What rob0 said too.[17:39:03] <rob0> SMTPUTF8 is enabled by default in recent versions, I think, and since the Dovecoteers are UTF8 people (Finns), I bet they use it.[17:39:04] <plantroon> during SMTP session, specify something like this MAIL FROM:<user at example dot com> SMTPUTF8[17:40:02] <plantroon> we run quite a big mail server at our company and throughout a whole month, we had 4 deliveries fail due to this. So it's insignificant[17:40:59] <double-p> plantroon: running this one in asia areas or so?[17:41:25] <plantroon> not at all, eastern Europe. UTF8 subjects work fine but we have no support for UTF8 recipients[17:43:03] <double-p> well, because the subject is (for 10y at least now) utf8-printable - no need for smtutf8 there[17:50:19] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[17:55:43] <plantroon> it took me a while to figure out how to send a smtputf8 mail in the first place[17:59:00] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[18:00:54] <n_1-c_k> plantroon: please share?[18:03:23] <rob0> IIUC SMTPUTF8 means the sender or a recipient address contains UTF8.?[18:04:31] <jimpop> i'd swear that someone here told me to turn off smtputf8 within the past 2 years[18:04:34] <plantroon> sender - utf8 characters worked without smtputf8 support. Recipient - didn't test yet.[18:04:40] <double-p> swaks?[18:04:51] <plantroon> swaks can't do smtputf8 test[18:04:53] <plantroon> I tried[18:05:03] <double-p> ehum[18:05:34] <plantroon> at least not the version in Debian ... basically during a manual SMTP session, you need to specify SMTPUTF8, for example like this: MAIL FROM:<user at example dot com> SMTPUTF8[18:06:16] <n_1-c_k> plantroon: er "manual SMTP session" means over telnet?[18:06:29] <plantroon> yes[18:06:35] <n_1-c_k> plantroon: thanks[18:08:50] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:09:26] *** MasterPiece <MasterPiece!~masterpie@unaffiliated/masterpiece> has joined #postfix[18:11:47] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:36:54] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[18:51:25] *** ntnlzr <ntnlzr!~ntnlzer@pix.gsy.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by 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