December 8, 2018 
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If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![13:00:33] *** colinjmatt <colinjmatt!~colinjmat@matthews-co.uk> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye for now.)[13:04:59] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[13:07:13] <ironm> Good morning, please allow me short question: Is dovecot still the recommended MSA counterpart to use with the current version of postfix?[13:08:30] <ironm> courier-mta or cyrusimap would be another choice[13:09:40] <ironm> The following combination worked fine for last five years:[13:09:45] <ironm> postfix 2.9.6-1~12.04.3[13:09:45] <ironm> dovecot-imapd 1:2.0.19-0ubuntu2.2[13:09:45] <ironm> dovecot-core 1:2.0.19-0ubuntu2.2[13:10:53] <ironm> As I have to move servers I had to update the operating system to newer version as well as the postfix and dovecot packages to:[13:11:07] <ironm> postfix 3.3.0-1ubuntu0.1[13:11:07] <ironm> dovecot-imapd 1:2.2.33.2-1ubuntu4.1[13:11:08] <ironm> dovecot-core 1:2.2.33.2-1ubuntu4.[13:12:52] <ironm> The configuration seems still to be quite complex one, is there a recommended configuration document? Thank you in advance for hints.[13:17:15] <double-p> postfix to dovecot via LMTP isnt complex in my eyes[13:19:06] *** colinjmatt <colinjmatt!~colinjmat@matthews-co.uk> has joined #postfix[13:19:26] <ironm> double-p, thank you. I have to check what is LMTP ..[13:22:23] <ironm> I see.. "Starting with Dovecot 2.x a LMTP-Server has been added. "[13:25:00] <ironm> you can not use "reject_unverified_recipient" with "pipe" so this doesn't work with the Dovecot LDA "deliver".[13:27:41] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[13:29:28] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:29:28] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[13:54:46] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-251-6.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:16:02] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-251-6.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[14:32:53] <ironm> Another question: is the current version of postfix able to use advantages of DNSSEC? (RRSIGs etc.)[14:43:32] <n_1-c_k> ironm: yes, via unbound or the like. Look for DANE in the TLS_README.[14:43:51] *** Ether_Man <Ether_Man!~Ether_Man@unaffiliated/ether-man/x-1546665> has joined #postfix[14:43:59] <ironm> thanks a lot for the hint n_1-c_k[15:02:07] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:07:14] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:07:31] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has joined #postfix[15:12:32] *** sep_ <sep_!~sep@95.62-50-191.enivest.net> has joined #postfix[15:13:12] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:41:07] *** treehug88 <treehug88!~textual@pool-98-113-184-194.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #postfix[15:53:46] *** gislaved <gislaved!b9e814e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.232.20.233> has joined #postfix[16:04:04] *** Kanabos_ <Kanabos_!~kanabos_@i16-les02-th2-31-36-105-48.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr> has 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<korozion!korozion@unaffiliated/korozion> has joined #postfix[18:59:12] *** anubani_ <anubani_!~quassel@82.213.2.186> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[18:59:21] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[19:00:36] *** anubani <anubani!~quassel@82.213.2.186> has joined #postfix[19:00:49] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[19:00:58] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:00:59] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[19:03:00] *** tharkun_ <tharkun_!~tharkun@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:03:00] *** tharkun_ <tharkun_!~tharkun@unaffiliated/tharkun> has joined #postfix[19:03:06] *** tharkun_ is now known as tharkun[19:03:17] <tharkun> !hotmail[19:03:17] <knoba> tharkun: "hotmail" : http://www.circleid.com/posts/hotmail_running_own_smtp/ : See the !SenderID channel factoid too.[19:03:27] <tharkun> !SenderID[19:03:27] <knoba> tharkun: "SenderID" : Having hotmail delivery issues? - Consider having your server added to the Microsoft Sender ID program. Get your house in order first! Add a reverse dns ptr record for the ip of the server, forward should match reverse and helo. Create a valid spf record for the domain(s) then wander on over to https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=senderid&ct=eformts and submit your request to be added[19:04:41] <double-p> wee, i was expecting a 2001 or so article :)[19:11:07] <tharkun> Any out of the hat magic trick to get intouch with MS they decided that all mail sent to it is Spam[19:12:09] <double-p> asking for the "we no spammer" flag? :)[19:13:12] <tharkun> double-p: You could say so.[19:13:45] <double-p> there's none[19:13:54] <tuxick> tharkun: sacrificing a black chicken might help[19:15:14] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[19:15:19] <JPT> !yahoo[19:15:19] <knoba> JPT: "yahoo" : Yahoo and other providers throttle inbound connections in an attempt to reduce spam. If you're a big operator, talk to them about whitelisting. If not, just wait for the retry, your mail eventually goes through. For bulk mail issues this contact is helpful: <mail-abuse-bulk at cc dot yahoo-inc.com>[19:15:28] <tuxick> you'll have to wait 2 weeks for full moon though[19:15:39] <double-p> tuxick: he he[19:16:28] <double-p> good times when AOL was a very good "sink" to test delivery rates :)[19:17:12] <JPT> By the way, have aol and yahoo merged or something? Their temporary errors look very similar[19:18:04] <double-p> like the kids would know[19:19:18] <blackflow> JPT: 'tis Oath![19:19:34] <JPT> Sounds like something big[19:20:09] <tharkun> tuxick: Got a phone call from a client. I will scrifice a full ostrich if need be.[19:21:37] <double-p> tharkun: only with sugar mustard[19:21:46] *** random_yanek <random_yanek!~random_ya@host-89-230-167-12.dynamic.mm.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:25:22] *** ntd <ntd!~ntd@gateway/tor-sasl/ntd> has quit IRC (Quit: ntd)[19:27:09] <tharkun> !dmarc[19:27:09] <knoba> tharkun: "dmarc" : (#1) "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance": Enforces SPF and DKIM to the From: header via DNS records. You probably don't need DMARC. For more info see https://dmarc.org/, or (#2) Also see !easy_dmarc[19:28:00] <tharkun> !easy_dmarc[19:28:00] <knoba> tharkun: "easy_dmarc" : If you just need a DMARC policy to help satisfy ESP recommendations you can use this to basically tell servers not to enforce DMARC on your mail: _dmarc.example.com. 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