December 5, 2018 
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December 5, 2018 [00:09:20] <lunaphyte> why do you like that?[00:09:25] <lunaphyte> e.g. what problem does it solve?[00:10:59] <meowzus> Well, regardless of that, I can see that even when removing that, and when I try and in my virtual_alias_maps send foo at domin dot com to nobody it tries to route to nobody at domain dot com[00:13:28] <meowzus> instead of just sending it to the nobody linux user[00:13:34] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[00:15:08] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:15:09] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[00:18:55] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[00:19:00] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[00:19:34] <rob0> "nobody" is not an email address. "nobody at some dot domain.example" is an address. When you give virtual_alias_maps an incomplete address like "nobody", Postfix has to convert it to a complete address.[00:20:20] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@2a03:4000:6:374::5> has joined #postfix[00:20:20] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@2a03:4000:6:374::5> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:20:20] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has joined #postfix[00:20:59] <rob0> anyway, if you want help with this, read the /topic ... have you done that yet?[00:22:20] <meowzus> !showconfig[00:22:20] <knoba> meowzus: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[00:23:44] <meowzus> Can't I map it to a unix user?[00:24:03] <meowzus> As they're doing here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25427372/postfix-how-to-block-incoming-emails-to-a-specific-recipient[00:24:14] <rob0> yes, but n_1-c_k had the better idea[00:24:17] <meowzus> or here https://www.serverwatch.com/columns/article.php/3844371/Forwarding-a-Postfix-Virtual-Alias-to-devnull.htm[00:24:32] <rob0> I won't read those, sorry[00:24:47] <meowzus> How do I map it to a unix user[00:25:03] <rob0> Delivery to a Unix user is covered in the "local address class," see:[00:25:06] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[00:25:10] <rob0> !address_classes[00:25:10] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.[00:25:35] <rob0> basically, domain in:[00:25:39] <rob0> !mydestination[00:25:40] <knoba> rob0: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents. See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mydestination for more information.[00:26:01] <rob0> but doing that to discard mail is a very bad idea[00:26:21] <meowzus> Why[00:26:40] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:27:30] <meowzus> Why is it a very bad idea[00:27:42] <rob0> I'm not sure where to begin, but again, as n_1-c_k said,[00:27:50] <rob0> !check_recipient_access[00:27:50] <knoba> rob0: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[00:28:05] <rob0> ... and you can reject it.[00:29:36] <meowzus> Will this work with a catchall?[00:30:56] <rob0> it would be the initial RCPT TO address, before alias expansion.[00:31:11] <meowzus> Okay i'll try this[00:38:46] <meowzus> Does this block outgoing email?[00:38:53] <meowzus> I'm trying to blcok incoming email[00:39:30] <meowzus> It's blocked outgoing email to that address at least[00:40:32] <rob0> All mail comes in, goes out; your distinction is not clear. But anyway smtpd restrictions are applied by smtpd(8), when mail comes in.[00:41:03] <meowzus> Well if I try and use my smtp server to send an email to that address that i'm blocking, it doesn't even let me send to it[00:41:23] <meowzus> However I tried from another address (gmail) and it seems to be blocking it based on the logs[00:41:51] <thumbs> meowzus: have you posted what the /topic requires yet?[00:41:59] <meowzus> No one asked for it[00:42:22] <thumbs> meowzus: that's a lie. rob0 asked for it.[00:42:42] <meowzus> rob0 just asked if i read it[00:43:01] <meowzus> "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config,[00:43:13] <meowzus> So I thought it meant if someone asks me for my config[00:43:25] <thumbs> !tell meowzus welcome[00:43:25] <knoba> meowzus: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![00:43:26] <meowzus> rob0 never asked for for my config[00:43:30] <meowzus> Why are you accusing me of lying[00:44:22] <rob0> hmm, I forgot that the /topic said someone should ask you to make a pastebin; I should fix that[00:44:59] <rob0> I didn't ask, I saimply said, "... if you want help with this ..."[00:45:07] <rob0> and simply, too[00:46:04] *** phoenixz <phoenixz!~quassel@mail.capmega.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:54:01] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[00:57:32] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF690E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:57:47] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF691AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[00:59:01] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@mx1.capmegamail.com> has joined #postfix[00:59:03] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@6.123.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has joined #postfix[00:59:03] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@6.123.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:59:03] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has joined #postfix[01:01:32] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@mx1.capmegamail.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:03:45] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@mail.capmega.com> has joined #postfix[01:09:23] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:10:42] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:20:36] *** meowzus <meowzus!~meowzus@ktnron060mw-grc-05-50-100-79-215.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/)[01:26:06] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:cc7a:b1b7:5689:a283> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:27:33] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[01:34:25] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[01:34:52] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:7895:4b08:d069:768d> has joined #postfix[01:55:42] *** woxidu <woxidu!~woxidu@2601:186:8280:20d9:38:b123:318b:3a6d> has joined #postfix[01:56:38] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has joined #postfix[02:20:42] *** imm__ <imm__!~imm_@dh207-35-54.xnet.hr> has joined #postfix[02:21:52] *** imm_ <imm_!~imm_@unaffiliated/imm/x-7821412> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[02:31:09] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[02:42:15] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Quit: chowbok)[02:51:14] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[03:15:58] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p57A96286.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:33:36] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:43:44] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B2E2B08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:46:18] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B2E2CAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[03:46:32] *** andylavarre <andylavarre!~andy@mobile-107-107-58-183.mycingular.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:52:23] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.7> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:57:57] *** n-st <n-st!~n-st@unaffiliated/n-st> has quit IRC (Quit: ␄)[03:57:57] *** breitenj <breitenj!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in)[03:59:23] *** breitenj <breitenj!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has joined #postfix[03:59:54] *** n-st <n-st!~n-st@unaffiliated/n-st> has joined #postfix[04:06:21] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.7> has joined #postfix[04:18:39] <Intelo> How to make sure I get a very random row when I select with limit 1. Is it ORDER BY random() to do this or any better way?[04:21:36] <thumbs> Intelo: wrong channel.[04:22:01] <Intelo> ah. ya.. postgres was needed[04:22:43] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has left #postfix ("Leaving")[04:23:32] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:24:42] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[04:36:11] *** macwinner <macwinner!~macwinner@136.24.54.111> has joined #postfix[05:01:43] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[05:07:14] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:30:12] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p57A96110.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[06:07:57] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:09:06] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:09:37] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:10:07] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:10:37] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:11:40] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:12:07] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:12:56] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has joined #postfix[06:12:57] *** terp <terp!~terp@77.68.214.134> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:15:36] *** faizy_ <faizy_!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:17:58] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[06:21:35] *** terp <terp!~terp@77.68.214.134> has joined #postfix[06:25:06] *** |subz3r0| <|subz3r0|!~|subz3r0|@unaffiliated/subz3r0/x-1361105> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[06:27:03] *** |subz3r0| <|subz3r0|!~|subz3r0|@unaffiliated/subz3r0/x-1361105> has joined #postfix[06:34:27] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[07:25:33] *** rofl__ <rofl__!rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:38bb:8176:ea17:ebda> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:27:57] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[07:28:43] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[07:30:50] *** jcarpenter2 <jcarpenter2!~rofl@c-24-118-22-97.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[07:32:07] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:32:12] *** macwinner <macwinner!~macwinner@136.24.54.111> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:34:31] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[07:39:38] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[07:42:52] *** imm__ <imm__!~imm_@dh207-35-54.xnet.hr> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[07:43:13] *** imm_ <imm_!~imm_@unaffiliated/imm/x-7821412> has joined #postfix[07:58:09] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@2a01:4a0:2e::11> has joined #postfix[07:58:27] *** anubani_ <anubani_!~quassel@213.6.2.253> has joined #postfix[07:59:45] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:00:43] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[08:02:31] *** anubani <anubani!~quassel@82.213.2.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:02:34] *** anubani_ is now known as anubani[08:10:46] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[08:19:04] *** internat <internat!~nf@59-102-71-121.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[08:26:36] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:50:26] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[09:03:43] *** treefrob_ <treefrob_!~treefrob@p57A9604D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[09:06:32] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p57A96110.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:10:38] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has joined #postfix[09:21:18] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:22:08] *** faizy_ <faizy_!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:22:28] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[09:30:45] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[09:33:17] <ntnlzr> hi there is a way to add header if this control fail reject_unverified_sender instead to reject the mail? Or different config, i need it cause i want manage with procmail the unknow sender[09:34:53] <ntnlzr> folder[09:35:18] *** twanny796 <twanny796!~Twanny@195.158.111.16> has joined #postfix[09:37:25] <twanny796> I got blocked, *again*, by http://www.spamhaus.org/lookup.lasso, with this error : This IP is impersonating (via SMTP HELO command) being a domain we know it _cannot_ be. No properly configured mail server does this under any circumstances.[09:37:48] <twanny796> Any help on what I need to change?[09:39:11] <ntnlzr> twanny796, https://www.virtualmin.com/node/20698[09:39:15] <ntnlzr> here the solution[09:40:33] <twanny796> ntnlzr, ok, reading[09:41:13] <ntnlzr> it's just the hostname of your server[09:41:21] *** faizy_ <faizy_!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[09:42:30] *** treefrob_ <treefrob_!~treefrob@p57A9604D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:43:18] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[09:44:04] <twanny796> ntnlzr, yes the host name is different from the fqdn[09:49:50] <survietamine> I don't think that does really matter[09:50:57] <survietamine> the message seems to mention problem with your helo hostname instead[09:51:51] <ntnlzr> myhostname = server.example.com[09:52:02] <ntnlzr> in main.cf[09:52:31] <ntnlzr> if the error still present add smtpd_banner = $myhostname and reload postfix config[09:54:00] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:58:30] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p57A96950.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[10:05:14] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:06:43] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[10:07:22] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[10:09:41] *** faizy_ <faizy_!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:29:31] *** trident <trident!~trident@paranoia.trisec.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:31:46] *** trident <trident!~trident@paranoia.trisec.se> has joined #postfix[10:32:53] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:37:31] *** muAdmDev <muAdmDev!~mu@193.158.65.130> has joined #postfix[10:58:54] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:e3f:ed39:21e:2aff:fe47:c90f> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[10:58:57] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[10:59:14] *** delacroix <delacroix!~delacroix@2a02:810c:e3f:ed39:21e:2aff:fe47:c90f> has joined #postfix[11:02:16] *** double-p <double-p!~pbuehler@xfw.fips.de> has quit IRC (Quit: relocate the VM)[11:08:28] *** anubani_ <anubani_!~quassel@82.213.2.186> has joined #postfix[11:11:34] <twanny796> ntnlzr, survietamine : I change the name of the computer and it seems ok[11:11:57] *** anubani <anubani!~quassel@213.6.2.253> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:11:57] <ntnlzr> ok nice twanny796[11:12:00] <ntnlzr> :)[11:12:25] <twanny796> ntnlzr, Thank you :)[11:12:48] <ntnlzr> you're welcome[11:28:40] *** markand <markand!~markand@unaffiliated/markand> has joined #postfix[11:28:43] <markand> hello[11:29:36] <markand> I'm pretty sure it must be asked a lot of time and I apologize because I can't find much "easy" workaround about that, but I would like to disallow mail from my own domain on port 25 if not authenticated[11:29:51] <markand> because, I receive spam from my own domain, which is bit annoying[11:40:25] *** amospalla <amospalla!~amospalla@unaffiliated/amospalla> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:41:48] *** amospalla <amospalla!~amospalla@unaffiliated/amospalla> has joined #postfix[11:43:37] *** Vamp898 <Vamp898!c19e33fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.158.51.254> has joined #postfix[11:45:01] <Vamp898> Hello there. I have set the relayhost parameter for outgoing mails and relay_domains for incoming mails that should be forwarded to an specific server. But somehow all incoming mails are sent back to the relayhost which causes an loop and will finally cause the mail to be dropped[11:48:27] <Vamp898> relay_domains = hash:/etc/postfix/relay_domains is what i set and /etc/postfix/relay_domains contains "domain :IP-of-server"[11:53:28] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:54:02] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a05:6d40:0:147:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has joined #postfix[11:55:48] <Vamp898> I think i misunderstood how relay_domains works. When i use transport_maps instead of relay_domains, it works as expected...[11:55:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:56:16] *** Twanny_ <Twanny_!~Twanny@195.158.111.16> has joined #postfix[11:57:06] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[11:58:17] <Vamp898> yep, i did, nvmd[11:59:07] *** twanny796 <twanny796!~Twanny@195.158.111.16> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:08:46] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:09:10] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[12:11:57] *** meowzus <meowzus!~meowzus@ktnron060mw-grc-05-50-100-79-215.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #postfix[12:13:17] <meowzus> Hi, I wanted to block emails from being received for a specific email address, and was told to use smtpd_recipient_restrictions and check_recipient_access. However all this seems to do is allow me to be a bit more restrictive with how strict it is in checking certain things, rather than actually straight up rejecting all emails[12:13:26] <meowzus> Following this page http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html[12:13:40] <meowzus> Is there a way to make it reject all emails being addressed to a specific email address? Thanks[12:17:16] <blackflow> meowzus: if you don't want an address to receive mail.... delete the address?[12:17:25] <meowzus> I have a catchall[12:17:32] <meowzus> Which I'd like to keep[12:17:43] <blackflow> I mean I don't get it. You want an address defined, but you don't want it to receive _any_ mail?[12:17:44] <meowzus> I just want to exclude one email that is receiving spam[12:18:27] <meowzus> I don't want that email defined - I was thinking of doing a regex exclude for my catchall too if that works. I use different email addresses for like each service I sign up for, for example[12:18:43] <meowzus> So that if someone leaks my email (like what has happened) I can figure out where its coming from[12:19:04] <meowzus> There are other uses where I enjoy using the catchall, so I'd like to keep that functionality, I just want to block any incoming emails from this one address[12:19:29] <blackflow> oh catchall..... well check_recipient_access is an access(5) table, so REJECT is a valid action. does that not work as expected?[12:20:21] <blackflow> it's tested during SMTP for RCPT TO (if set for smtp_recipient_restrictions list) so before queue and thus before catch all would be resolved[12:20:38] <blackflow> *smtpd_recipient_restrictions[12:21:17] <blackflow> (because I'm assuming you defined catch-all with a virtual alias?)[12:45:16] <meowzus> that's right I used a catchall with a virtual alias[12:45:33] <meowzus> so I can just put REJECT there? right now, as per the page I showed you, I set it up as restrictive[12:45:39] <meowzus> I'll try putting REJECT there and see what happens[12:46:53] <blackflow> meowzus: that's using classes. access(5) allows straight actions like REJECT: http://www.postfix.org/access.5.html[12:47:09] <blackflow> that = RESTRICTION_CLASSES_README[12:48:08] <meowzus> I can put that in stmpd_recipient_restrictions, right?[12:48:43] <blackflow> "that" being check_recipient_access hash:/path/to/such/a/table, then yes[12:50:20] <blackflow> don't forget to run postmap on the file[12:50:36] <meowzus> https://hastebin.com/uwalakehef.makefile[12:50:53] <meowzus> yes I ran postmap, and then restarted the postfix service, the email still went through though, didn't get rejected[12:52:23] <rob0> did you show logs? If you want help, show logs.[12:53:53] <meowzus> Okay seems like it's working now - is there a way to prevent it from returning to the sending address " Recipient address rejected: Access denied"[12:54:03] <meowzus> Like a silent fail?[12:54:30] <meowzus> DISCARD?[12:56:23] <rob0> why would you want that?[12:57:02] <blackflow> meowzus: you can discard or supply whatever message you want after REJECT in the access table. btw, no need to restart postfix after postmap[12:57:29] <blackflow> I do agree discard is not recommended really. you actually want MTAs to take notice of rejection and stop sending[12:57:30] <meowzus> Right, yeah DISCARD seemed to work. Thanks for the help blackflow[13:05:34] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[13:16:39] *** meowzus <meowzus!~meowzus@ktnron060mw-grc-05-50-100-79-215.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/)[13:25:19] *** double-p <double-p!~pbuehler@xfw.fips.de> has joined #postfix[13:27:06] *** double-p <double-p!~pbuehler@xfw.fips.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:27:43] *** Twanny_ <Twanny_!~Twanny@195.158.111.16> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:32:23] *** double-p <double-p!~pbuehler@xfw.fips.de> has joined #postfix[13:50:31] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[13:52:14] *** KlevinK <KlevinK!~KlevinK@77.242.22.154> has joined #postfix[13:52:32] <KlevinK> hello guys[13:52:39] <KlevinK> i changed my domain name to postfix[13:52:43] <KlevinK> but i see the following error[13:53:00] <KlevinK> "email is signed but the recipbet domain is not verified"[13:53:50] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:53:51] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[13:54:33] *** dreadkopp <dreadkopp!1fd159b6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.31.209.89.182> has joined #postfix[13:54:38] <petn-randall> Hi KlevinK, please see the /topic on how to get help in this channel.[13:56:31] <rob0> That's not a Postfix error, so ^^ context and information is necessary.[13:56:38] <KlevinK> petn-randall https://ibb.co/qjmPt6h[13:58:00] <blackflow> self-signed certificate, that's the problem.[13:59:31] <rob0> is that a problem?[14:00:49] <KlevinK> blackflow rob0 petn-randall i did not had this issue before i changed the domain[14:00:57] <KlevinK> is there any way i can change it to the new domain?[14:01:29] <blackflow> well yes you need a certificate that includes your new domain, either as primary or additional name[14:01:47] <blackflow> rob0: for this particular case and question, yes :)[14:02:35] <blackflow> otherwise.... self signed certs work properly only if you're your and only CA. infact, that's way better than any public cert.[14:02:47] <blackflow> *your own[14:03:08] <rob0> Certificate validation is not significant in SMTP.[14:03:54] <blackflow> right, and being your own CA doesn't make much sense in smtp (unless for submission part but eh... a bit futile)[14:05:04] <rob0> well, I'd turn that around. Often for submission it's best to have a well-known CA such as LE. Depends how much influence you have over your users.[14:05:04] *** edux <edux!~edux@204-241-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[14:06:05] <rob0> For smtp it's meaningless except for DANE. And for DANE, having your own CA is probably best.[14:08:19] *** andylavarre <andylavarre!~andy@mobile-107-107-58-206.mycingular.net> has joined #postfix[14:11:27] <KlevinK> guys do you have any documentation how to do that in linux?[14:11:30] <KlevinK> i am stucket[14:13:05] <KlevinK> blackflow rob0 hany direction how to do this?[14:13:24] <blackflow> KlevinK: do what exactly?[14:13:34] <KlevinK> to solve this issue[14:14:02] <blackflow> KlevinK: how did you generate that first certificate?[14:15:18] <KlevinK> i just installed lets ecnbrypt, for postfix i did not installed any vert[14:15:22] <rob0> Again, it's not an issue. You're being misled by an online checker written and run by someone who apparently has no understanding of the role of TLS in SMTP.[14:16:29] <blackflow> do MTAs like google ignore invalid certs? I know Google fails if the cert is invalid for their POP3 sync with gmail[14:16:49] <blackflow> I don't know what happens with smtp if the cert is invalid and encryption is may[14:17:31] <blackflow> meanwhile, to fix the issue of invalid cert (regardless of it being a problem for smtp or not), you need to reconfigure your letsencrypt client for the new domain and re-issue the certificate.[14:17:31] <KlevinK> if i sent to gmail works ok[14:17:33] <KlevinK> no issue[14:17:46] <KlevinK> guys i did test the emails outgoing and incoming and works ok everything[14:18:10] <KlevinK> just my client do not like this error and need to be remvoed[14:21:49] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[14:21:57] <blackflow> KlevinK: your client, so for submission (port 587)?[14:22:36] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[14:22:36] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[14:22:48] *** KlevinK <KlevinK!~KlevinK@77.242.22.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com))[14:25:17] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[14:27:02] <rob0> blackflow, most MTAs will not even bother to check a server cert.[14:27:12] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:27:47] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[14:28:13] <blackflow> but if a cert is used, it better be a valid one, right?[14:29:42] *** Twanny_ <Twanny_!~Twanny@195.158.111.16> has joined #postfix[14:29:55] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[14:32:44] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[14:34:00] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[14:36:56] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[14:39:41] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[14:43:07] *** dreadkopp <dreadkopp!1fd159b6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.31.209.89.182> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:49:57] <JPT> Is it just me or is a lot of spam with forged sender addresses coming from digitalocean?[14:50:00] *** z643 <z643!~z64@175.192.140.176> has joined #postfix[14:50:25] *** z643 <z643!~z64@175.192.140.176> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:52:25] <blackflow> I see it from all over the net.[14:52:57] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[14:53:40] <JPT> Perhaps the bots that are targeting me are specifically from digitalocean.[14:55:01] <JPT> I'm looking at attempted backscatter spam specifically[14:55:38] <blackflow> when in good mood, I report it. otherwise I chuck the whole subnet by ASN into a -j DROP ruleset and don't care :)[14:55:46] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[14:56:22] <JPT> I like the idea of dropping the whole subnet - but dropping almost all of digitalocean seems a bit rough :D[14:56:33] <blackflow> (not persistent, it clears on next reboot, I'm not a monster :) )[14:56:33] <double-p> arent most of them running into postscreen anyway?[14:56:48] <JPT> I still need to set that up :|[14:57:06] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has joined #postfix[14:57:44] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[14:57:44] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[14:59:12] <blackflow> JPT: I rely on clients telling me somoene has problems sending them mail. It happened _once_ in the past few years so I'm not too bothered. like I said, not persistent, and I reboot every 30-60 days anyway[14:59:31] <spammy> JPT: postscreen stops me in my tracks, so to keep me at bay, use postscreen[14:59:52] <JPT> I guess i will :)[15:00:21] <blackflow> (the majority of "regular" users are on gmail, which I'd never block, unfortunately, so... :) )[15:01:01] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[15:01:12] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@pb-d-128-141-210-81.cern.ch> has joined #postfix[15:02:23] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[15:03:01] *** Vamp898 <Vamp898!c19e33fe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.158.51.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:04:07] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:05:29] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:10:28] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[15:18:30] *** muAdmDev <muAdmDev!~mu@193.158.65.130> has left #postfix[15:18:31] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[15:18:54] *** likewhoa <likewhoa!~likewhoa@s2.maserver.com> has joined #postfix[15:24:07] <ntnlzr> hi, my goal is add an header for reject_unverified_sender instead of reject the mail, how can i achieve it?[15:30:00] <lunaphyte> why are you using reject_unverified_sender?[15:30:36] <lunaphyte> that's generally not advisable[15:30:39] <ntnlzr> for reject not existent sender[15:31:16] <ntnlzr> https://hastebin.com/biruseqaku.nginx[15:31:18] <lunaphyte> yeah, why are you doing that?[15:31:23] <lunaphyte> why do you think you need to be validating senders?[15:31:40] <ntnlzr> for reject spam[15:31:48] <double-p> aahm[15:32:02] <ntnlzr> before process the email with amavis[15:32:24] <double-p> so you verify the *sender* postmaster at gmail dot com exactly how?[15:33:07] <lunaphyte> ntnlzr: that is not a useful way to deal with spam[15:33:11] <ntnlzr> first check if domain exist second check if in this domain there is an user with the name of th esander[15:33:14] <ntnlzr> why not?[15:33:17] <rob0> Postfix can't do what you describe natively. You'd have to run a policy service which validates senders, then have it add the header with a PREPEND action. Also, #include lunaphyte[15:33:24] <rob0> it's abusive[15:33:43] <lunaphyte> double-p: see address_verification_readme[15:34:17] <double-p> lunaphyte: that was a question in direction of ntnlzr .. sorry[15:37:48] <ntnlzr> i can't upgrade to postfix 2.8 for postscreen right now[15:38:26] <rob0> upgrade? yikes, 2.8 is EOL[15:38:34] <ntnlzr> yep[15:38:42] <ntnlzr> it's an old machine[15:39:54] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[15:40:48] <ntnlzr> btw you process all email to antispam layer without using that setting right?[15:41:48] <ntnlzr> before antispam use postsceen as rob0 howto say[15:42:02] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[15:56:07] *** pyco <pyco!~p@pdpc/supporter/active/pyco> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:59:01] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[15:59:56] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[16:01:21] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:7895:4b08:d069:768d> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:02:00] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:7895:4b08:d069:768d> has joined #postfix[16:05:33] *** Reinhilde <Reinhilde!ellenor@unaffiliated/ellenor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:05:34] *** ikonia <ikonia!~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:05:52] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[16:07:09] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[16:11:08] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[16:12:45] *** pyco <pyco!~p@pierkorb.de> has joined #postfix[16:12:45] *** pyco <pyco!~p@pierkorb.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:12:45] *** pyco <pyco!~p@pdpc/supporter/active/pyco> has joined #postfix[16:14:02] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[16:14:53] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[16:17:19] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:17:38] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[16:21:07] *** Poster|z <Poster|z!~poster@cpe-174-96-188-72.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:21:51] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@75.188.11.166> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:24:45] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has joined #postfix[16:25:38] *** Ellenor <Ellenor!ellenor@unaffiliated/ellenor> has joined #postfix[16:25:48] *** AnrDaemon <AnrDaemon!~ZNC@darkdragon-nln.starlink.ru> has joined #postfix[16:27:42] <AnrDaemon> Evening all. I wonder, is there a recommended PPA for ubuntu trusty with a more up to date postfix releases?[16:28:22] <Dominian> Would have to ask the distribution maintainers that.[16:30:28] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@75.188.11.166> has joined #postfix[16:32:55] <Alver> AnrDaemon: what version are you on and which features are you missing in that version?[16:33:44] <AnrDaemon> 2.11[16:34:23] <Alver> Oh, right, you're on the 2014 Ubuntu[16:34:41] <AnrDaemon> While I was setting the last host, I've seen some of the settings "available since 3.x". I have a premise on hand that I can't readily upgrade. I'm trying to get LXC running on it, but if that fails, I'd like to have a backup path.[16:35:40] <Alver> Your OS is nearing five years old. You're going to out of support in April.[16:36:24] <Alver> Could be an opportunity to setup a new server, new postfix, new config, and give it a few months of testing until the existing one gets dropped?[16:36:54] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:37:02] <AnrDaemon> Alver: I appreciate your care of my OS, but I'm well aware of Ubuntu support cycles.[16:37:13] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[16:37:20] <AnrDaemon> And as I said, I'm working to see that through.[16:42:15] *** Twanny_ <Twanny_!~Twanny@195.158.111.16> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:43:06] <Alver> And some of those 3.x features are worth introducing a PPA and/or container technology to an old system, to be pushed through testing and put into production in the <5 month time frame that remains?[16:43:11] * Alver scratches head[16:43:28] <Alver> Well, to each his/her own. I never do PPAs, but I guess people in Ubuntu could know some[16:43:44] <Alver> Debian has a backports system; if there is something similar for Ubuntu, you may not even need one[16:49:43] <Alver> AnrDaemon: https://askubuntu.com/questions/523768/install-newer-package-version-from-trusty-backports[16:50:41] <Alver> ... oh, nevermind. 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Assuming the "mail" command does no analysis on the text it puts in the body of the message, how does it know to create a MIME header?[22:14:43] <cybrNaut> or are email clients simply smart enough to figure out there's a file without a header?[22:14:58] *** internat <internat!~nf@61.69.154.66> has joined #postfix[22:18:35] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:19:20] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[22:20:23] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:21:07] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[22:22:16] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:22:59] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[22:24:30] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:27:05] *** Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde[22:41:16] *** edux <edux!~edux@204-241-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:41:50] *** Reinhilde is now known as MelMalik[22:42:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:44:09] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[22:48:12] *** limon <limon!~limon@unaffiliated/limon> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:52:07] *** limon <limon!~limon@unaffiliated/limon> has joined #postfix[23:03:20] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:04:22] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:05:34] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[23:13:54] <jimpop> cybrNaut: my test of that failed to identify the image data as anything other than body text. i.e. no MIME headers, etc.[23:14:42] <jimpop> perhaps your mail server is setup to specifically identify and handle certain body content?[23:36:40] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[23:48:35] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)