December 3, 2018 
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December 3, 2018 [00:01:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:02:13] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF69FE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:02:28] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@pD9E428E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[00:03:01] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[00:03:38] *** _cr_ <_cr_!~quassel@srv.ncxs.de> has joined #postfix[00:14:05] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:14:28] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[00:18:25] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:24:59] *** Konichiwa <Konichiwa!~Konichiwa@host-72-175-167-98.ftm-co.client.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:28:18] *** callMeBaby <callMeBaby!~callMeBab@45.63.96.158> has left #postfix ("The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io")[00:29:07] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[00:30:02] *** Konichiwa <Konichiwa!~Konichiwa@host-72-175-167-98.ftm-co.client.bresnan.net> has joined #postfix[00:50:57] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:59:06] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@pD9E428E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:59:21] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p5DD756DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[01:02:15] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[01:18:08] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[01:20:37] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[01:21:00] *** rob is now known as Guest83198[01:23:15] <Ether_Man_> Is there any good postfix only virtual appliances made? I'm only finding like, complete mail solution ones which I don't want :)[01:25:46] *** Guest83198 <Guest83198!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[01:49:25] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has joined #postfix[02:05:34] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:05:57] *** rob is now known as Guest22267[02:09:00] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Quit: ]SiB[)[02:10:36] *** Guest22267 <Guest22267!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:13:40] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:16:35] *** gabizou <gabizou!~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org> has joined #postfix[02:19:43] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[02:28:23] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:29:13] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:29:37] *** rob is now known as Guest69257[02:30:53] <thumbs> Ether_Man_: why?[02:34:50] *** Guest69257 <Guest69257!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:36:44] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:37:08] *** rob is now known as Guest22928[02:49:20] *** Guest22928 <Guest22928!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[02:53:25] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:53:48] *** rob is now known as Guest76393[03:08:37] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[03:08:48] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has joined #postfix[03:23:39] *** Guest76393 <Guest76393!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:24:35] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[03:45:20] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B2E26ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:46:52] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p5B2E2DDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[03:52:08] <tharkun> !vague[03:52:08] <knoba> tharkun: "vague" : Your description and or question is very vague. Please try to describe the problem more precisely. See also: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc and http://marc.info/?l=postfix-users&m=137030455330819&w=2[03:52:45] <tharkun> http://www.trout.me.uk/vague.jpg[03:56:51] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[03:57:15] *** rob is now known as Guest54976[04:00:55] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:13:41] *** gu1lle_1 <gu1lle_1!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[04:15:24] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:15:24] *** gu1lle_1 is now known as gu1lle_[04:19:45] *** Guest54976 <Guest54976!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[04:20:17] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[04:21:01] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[04:26:07] *** andylavarre <andylavarre!~andy@mobile-107-107-57-175.mycingular.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:30:36] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[04:42:31] *** JPT <JPT!~jpt@classified.name> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:45:27] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:51:17] *** JPT <JPT!~jpt@classified.name> has joined #postfix[04:58:55] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[05:05:21] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:24:06] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[05:28:27] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:33:21] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[05:33:43] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[05:37:44] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[05:38:35] <ezio> With the following email https://gist.githubusercontent.com/bluebaroncanada/a34eb43926f2bd340a098131f8a0cd5a/raw/df7bc92eade41c886543b0fe2a1a514bab99f450/gistfile1.txt[05:38:40] <ezio> I'm getting an error[05:38:54] <ezio> I included the full error[05:39:12] <ezio> It's probably just a syntax error? I think ..[05:39:14] <ezio> 550 <> Sender rejected. (in reply to MAIL FROM command))[05:40:12] *** joshie <joshie!~joshie@218.148.239.142> has joined #postfix[05:40:22] *** joshie is now known as Guest24126[05:40:42] *** Guest24126 <Guest24126!~joshie@218.148.239.142> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:41:11] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:42:32] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.36.76> has joined #postfix[05:45:02] <pj> The recipient's server gave that error. It appears to be saying that it will not accept the null sender (<>).[05:45:33] <pj> you have not supplied enough info to tell you more than that...[05:45:39] <pj> !tell ezio getting_help[05:45:39] <knoba> ezio: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[05:46:33] <ezio> pj, that's exactly what I think the problem is. Why is the sender null. I put in a sender. It should be okay.[05:46:48] <ezio> gimme a couple minutes. This is a docker. I'll let you see the docker.[05:46:56] <pj> I think you may have a backscatter problem, btw, but that's a WAG[05:47:20] <pj> I don't want to see the docker, I want you to follow !getting_help.[06:03:39] <ezio> https://gist.github.com/bluebaroncanada/4dda11139a107f7c29133dbcccde927d[06:05:17] <ezio> refresh if you want to see the test mail, too[06:05:27] <ezio> oh fuck[06:06:08] <ezio> exposed my password but it's a password that i consider public anyways[06:11:34] <ezio> i included more of the error too[06:13:03] <ezio> https://gist.github.com/bluebaroncanada/d5d290745062d5a60c4400a159bffeae[06:16:35] <ezio> pj, what's a WAG?[06:30:52] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[06:31:27] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:32:26] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:32:56] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:36:40] <Zerberus> it is a sender non-delivery notification[06:38:44] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[06:43:33] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[06:48:48] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[06:50:00] *** faizy_ <faizy_!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has joined #postfix[06:52:56] *** faizy98 <faizy98!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[06:59:11] *** faizy_ <faizy_!~faizy98@111.68.104.153> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:02:50] <Ether_Man_> thumbs, sorry for late reply but because I prefer separation between services as much as possible. I'd much rather be running 10 different VMs, each running their own single service, than a single VM running 10 services.[07:04:11] <ezio> Ether_Man_, definitely[07:04:49] <ezio> You never know when any of those VMs could become overloaded and need to be moved to different hardware.[07:05:41] <ezio> And I feel VMs should be readily destroyable[07:06:10] <ezio> and recreateable[07:10:17] *** gu1lle_1 <gu1lle_1!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[07:10:46] <Ether_Man_> Not sure about the last part there since my ldap VM wouldn't easily be recreated :)[07:11:46] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[07:11:46] *** gu1lle_1 is now known as gu1lle_[07:15:19] <ezio> Ether_Man_, unfortunate but that can happen, I suppose. I try to script out what I can with Vagrant or Docker.[07:16:06] <Ether_Man_> I loathe docker myself. I'd much rather just move that to a VM of its own >_<[07:16:25] <ezio> I looooooooove docker.[07:17:13] <ezio> anyways off to bed. If anyone answers my question, I'll get it through my znc server when I get back to my desktop.[07:17:19] <ezio> thanks all for the help so far.[07:23:40] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.7> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:37:20] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.8> has joined #postfix[08:14:52] <pj> ezio: no one can answer your question until you follow !getting_help/[08:14:52] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:15:44] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[08:21:14] <pj> ezio: there are two errors in there, this is the first one: Dec 3 05:23:10 b4d8be32ab15 postfix/smtp[226]: 12518C44DC: to=<bluebaroncanada at gmail dot com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.232.26]:25, delay=41, delays=40/0/0.14/0.32, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.232.26] said: 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from studentfleamarket.com is not accepted due 550-5.7.1 to domain's DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of[08:21:15] <pj> 550-5.7.1 studentfleamarket.com domain if this was a legitimate mail. Please 550-5.7.1 visit 550-5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about the 550 5.7.1 DMARC initiative. g24si219840qvb.43 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)).[08:22:13] <pj> the other error is a result of the bounce message that was generated and attempted to be sent to the envelope sender of the original message.[08:24:19] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[08:43:11] *** stenrose <stenrose!~martin@2a01:2b0:301d:100:f4e3:fa96:9406:7e5a> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:46:45] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[08:53:34] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[09:00:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:02:04] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[09:06:24] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:09:03] *** stenrose <stenrose!~martin@2a01:2b0:301d:100:bcd9:cc96:2434:3678> has joined #postfix[09:11:38] *** free_beer <free_beer!~free@gatekeeper01.ports.se> has joined #postfix[09:13:41] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[09:24:54] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:28:37] *** trident <trident!~trident@paranoia.trisec.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:30:02] *** trident <trident!~trident@paranoia.trisec.se> has joined #postfix[09:30:46] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:30:52] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[09:32:17] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[09:33:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:35:05] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[09:55:55] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:57:06] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[09:58:34] *** sputnik <sputnik!kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[09:58:35] <tuxick> well, it explains: contact the administrator :)[10:06:50] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:07:51] *** migy <migy!~migy@static.59.240.9.5.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Quit: migy)[10:08:05] *** migy <migy!~migy@static.59.240.9.5.clients.your-server.de> has joined #postfix[10:12:39] *** plantroon <plantroon!~plantroon@91.236.69.232> has joined #postfix[10:14:23] <plantroon> I am wondering what exactly does smtputf8_autodetect_classes=sendmail do. What is normally submitted with the Postfix sendmail command?[10:15:08] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[10:24:00] *** buki_ is now known as buki[10:25:37] *** sputnik <sputnik!kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has joined #postfix[10:32:14] <double-p> plantroon: i'd take the guess it's about rewriting subjects to utf8-printable encoding[10:34:17] <plantroon> double-p: yeah, but the "sendmail" part is of more interest to me. Like, what is submitted with sendmail command on a mail server? To my knowledge postfix does not use this internally, spamsassassin does, but we don't use that. So I don't knwo what else could.[10:35:40] <double-p> plantroon: e.g. cron mails would come via /usr/sbin/sendmail -t and such, or what do you mean?[10:36:52] <plantroon> yes, that's what I mean. But our cron is not using smtputf8, so that's fine[10:38:29] <double-p> or shell scripts piping to mailx.. and I know some in my company, that would use umlauts there :p[10:52:38] *** mz` <mz`!~emerick@nebula.mz23.in> has quit IRC (Changing host)[10:52:38] *** mz` <mz`!~emerick@gandi/mz> has joined #postfix[10:55:29] <survietamine> what do you mean with "postfix does not use this..." ?[10:56:07] <survietamine> http://www.postfix.org/OVERVIEW.html shows that messages coming from sendmail are handled by postdrop[10:56:37] <survietamine> !sendmail[10:56:37] <knoba> survietamine: "sendmail" : a pretty cryptic MTA that was famous in the ancient days of UNIX and still runs on a lot of mail servers. Don't confuse it with the "sendmail" command that is offered by Postfix to send emails (for compatibility reasons).[11:01:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:03:04] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[11:34:05] *** jcarpenter2 <jcarpenter2!rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:38bb:8176:ea17:ebda> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:34:22] *** jcarpenter2 <jcarpenter2!rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:38bb:8176:ea17:ebda> has joined #postfix[11:36:08] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[11:38:02] *** Intelo_ <Intelo_!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[11:38:08] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:40:31] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[11:40:38] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[11:45:31] *** tris <tris!tristan@camel.ethereal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:45:36] *** k-man <k-man!~jason@unaffiliated/k-man> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:48:18] *** k-man <k-man!~jason@unaffiliated/k-man> has joined #postfix[11:48:19] *** tris <tris!tristan@camel.ethereal.net> has joined #postfix[11:53:22] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[11:53:22] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[11:53:22] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[12:03:57] *** ahenrique <ahenrique!~ahenrique@200.219.132.106> has joined #postfix[12:11:27] <plantroon> survietamine: the thing is that this mail server is just a relay to lmtp. It does not use sendmail for any purpose as far as I am aware.[12:13:16] <plantroon> ${{$compatibility_level} < {1} ? {no} : {yes}} ...... means that if compatibility level is < 1, then "no" will be set? Otherwise yes? Or is it vice versa? 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Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[14:09:13] <ezio> !showconfig[14:09:14] <knoba> ezio: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[14:10:28] <ezio> !no_verbosee[14:10:29] <knoba> ezio: Error: "no_verbosee" is not a valid command.[14:10:30] <ezio> !no_verbose[14:10:30] <knoba> ezio: "no_verbose" : do not show verbose logs unless someone asks you to. if someone does ask you to, see !verbose[14:10:34] *** nihe <nihe!nihe@sakura.kontei.se> has joined #postfix[14:18:24] *** Thom1 <Thom1!~thomas@clancy.halpanet.org> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)[14:18:54] *** Thom1 <Thom1!~thomas@clancy.halpanet.org> has joined #postfix[14:20:47] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[14:21:01] <ezio> here are my relevant logs and config[14:21:02] <ezio> https://gist.github.com/bluebaroncanada/124e8a2e2643ca49390a1148332fa6c4[14:21:49] <ezio> I think the issue that I'm having is the sender is null[14:21:56] <ezio> It's also complaining about DMARC[14:22:06] <ezio> the domain is studentfleamarket.com[14:28:28] *** Intelo_ <Intelo_!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:29:44] <rob0> 12518C44DC: the original mail, it bounced; 62412C44E5 is the bounce. A bounce must have the null sender.[14:29:50] <rob0> btw,[14:30:09] <rob0> !enable_long_queue_ids[14:30:09] <knoba> rob0: "enable_long_queue_ids" : Enable long, non-repeating, queue IDs (queue file names). The benefit of non-repeating names is simpler logfile analysis and easier queue migration (there is no need to run postsuper to change queue file names that don't match their message file inode number). See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#enable_long_queue_ids[14:36:38] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:37:04] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[14:40:06] *** shaytan <shaytan!~shaytan@31-208-8-193.cust.bredband2.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[14:41:50] *** shaytan <shaytan!~shaytan@31-208-8-193.cust.bredband2.com> has joined #postfix[14:42:10] <ezio> rob0, okay will do. I think I figured out the issue, though. DKIM is not working. I removed the DMARC from my domain and I don't think it's even being signed. I've updated the gist with a sample email that finally made it through and got delivered to my spam.[14:43:39] <ezio> postconf -e enable_long_queue_ids=yes[14:43:41] <ezio> right?[14:43:59] <ezio> reinstalling the docker[14:46:27] <ezio> tail: unrecognized file system type 0x794c7630 for '/var/log/mail.log'. please report this to bug-coreutils at gnu dot org. reverting to polling[14:46:35] <ezio> oh nm[14:51:27] *** andylavarre <andylavarre!~andy@mobile-107-107-58-214.mycingular.net> has joined #postfix[14:53:12] *** woxidu <woxidu!~woxidu@c-71-192-31-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[14:55:13] <rob0> !debian[14:55:13] <knoba> rob0: "debian" : (#1) Please see /usr/share/doc/postfix/README.Debian for Debian-specific information. This probably applies to Ubuntu and most other Debian-derivative distributions as well., or (#2) Debian splits the syslog mail facility into several files; the one most likely to be of interest is mail.log , which contains all mail.* priority levels.[15:00:57] <rob0> studentfleamarket.com. 3600 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:66.96.128.0/18 ipv4:206.189.228.173 -all"[15:01:14] <ezio> Received-SPF: fail (google.com: domain of james at studentfleamarket dot com does not designate 206.189.228.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=206.189.228.173;[15:01:20] <ezio> I was just sending that to you.[15:01:32] *** TheL0singEdge <TheL0singEdge!~TheL0sing@unaffiliated/thel0singedge> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client sucks ass and will bring great shame to your family.)[15:01:33] <rob0> you have an "ip4:" and an "ipv4:", I think only one of those is valid.[15:01:41] <ezio> derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr[15:01:45] <rob0> I think it's "op4"[15:01:50] <ezio> I finally got DKIM working, too[15:01:53] <rob0> I think it's "ip4"[15:02:27] <ezio> I thought it was working. I generated the keys, I just didn't copy them to the right directory for the docker to pick them up. I swear I thought I had.[15:02:32] *** ALowther_ <ALowther_!~quassel@108.190.224.222> has joined #postfix[15:02:43] <rob0> and that would fit in with the google rejection.[15:03:26] <ezio> v=spf1 ip4:66.96.128.0/18 ip4:206.189.228.173 -all[15:04:02] <rob0> and I think the SPF proponents always recommend ~all until you get it right.[15:04:42] <ezio> Probably a good rule. If this doesn't fix it, I'll switch it.[15:04:54] <ezio> Just waiting for DNS to propagate[15:05:13] <lunaphyte> listing an entire /18? that can't possibly be appropriate...[15:06:08] <ezio> lunaphyte, it's netfirms' servers[15:06:18] <lunaphyte> what does that mean?[15:06:24] <ezio> they're big[15:06:34] <lunaphyte> that doesn't explain such a listing[15:06:52] <ezio> It's their default.[15:07:30] <ezio> rob0, is that update propagating to your end? I'm stuck here.[15:07:36] <lunaphyte> default for what?[15:07:46] <lunaphyte> that doesn't make any sense[15:07:47] <ezio> for mail delivery on new domains[15:08:33] <lunaphyte> yeah, that's ridiculous[15:10:30] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:11:32] <rob0> "propagating"?[15:12:10] <ezio> Yeah. It's the term for the spread of DNS records.[15:12:15] <ezio> https://www.whatsmydns.net/[15:12:22] <rob0> it's the wrong term :)[15:12:30] <ezio> It's a common term.[15:12:34] <rob0> my resolver has it cached for an hour[15:12:53] <rob0> but querying directly at ns2.netfirms.com. works[15:13:11] <ezio> So I have to wait, then.[15:13:16] <rob0> A lot of things are common, but that does not make them correct.[15:13:41] <ezio> Well when I worked for Verizon, that's what we called it there, too[15:13:46] <rob0> You can set lower TTL when you are making zone changes.[15:15:35] <ezio> I don't think netfirms lets me do that.[15:16:45] *** edux__ <edux__!~edux@190.247.36.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:16:54] <lunaphyte> boy, this netfirms place just keeps getting better and better, eh? :)[15:17:01] <ezio> I could start my own bind server but I can't be arsed. Going to make breakfast.[15:18:12] *** mojobask <mojobask!~chatzilla@46.161.91.157> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.40/20160315182701])[15:21:14] *** jalalsfs_ is now known as jalalsfs[15:45:38] <ezio> 6 minutes left[15:46:49] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:47:31] <ezio> On a Monday, I was a arrested. On a Tuesday, they locked me in jail. On a Wednesday, my trial was attested. On a Thursday, they said guilty and the judge's gavel fell.[15:47:48] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[15:50:05] *** rofl_ <rofl_!rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:38bb:8176:ea17:ebda> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:50:23] *** rofl_ <rofl_!rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:38bb:8176:ea17:ebda> has joined #postfix[15:55:16] <ezio> pass![15:55:24] <ezio> but it's not encrypted[15:55:34] <ezio> The final frontier[15:56:25] <ezio> oh, yeah. That's probably pretty simple[15:56:40] <ezio> Just need the openssl client?[15:56:50] <rob0> hm?[15:57:00] <ezio> I've been sending with telnet[15:57:10] <rob0> !tls_test[15:57:10] <knoba> rob0: Error: "tls_test" is not a valid command.[15:57:16] <rob0> !tlstest[15:57:16] <knoba> rob0: "tlstest" : see !s_client[15:57:26] <rob0> !s_client[15:57:26] <knoba> rob0: "s_client" : Starting with OpenSSL 0.9.7, you can test the server-side TLS with the following: openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect <hostname>:587 (or :25, accordingly).[15:57:27] <ezio> !s_client[15:57:28] <knoba> ezio: "s_client" : Starting with OpenSSL 0.9.7, you can test the server-side TLS with the following: openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect <hostname>:587 (or :25, accordingly).[15:57:46] <ezio> <3[16:02:49] <ezio> had to turn on smtp_tls_security_level = may[16:03:17] <rob0> !smtp!=smtpd[16:03:18] <knoba> rob0: "smtp!=smtpd" : Postfix smtp_* and smtpd_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtp_ = client and smtpd_ = server, the client-side sends mail whilst the server-side receives mail. (smtp = client = sends mail) (smtpd = server = receives mail)[16:08:44] <ezio> rob0, right. I want the client side.[16:09:05] <ezio> that worked[16:12:18] <ezio> Is this a reasonable dmarc?[16:12:19] <ezio> v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=reject; fo=1; ri=3600; rua=mailto:mailto:bluebaroncanada at gmail dot com; ruf=mailto:mailto:bluebaroncanada at gmail dot com[16:12:50] <ezio> sorry wrong channel[16:17:30] *** dmbaturin <dmbaturin!~dmbaturin@46.253.202.162> has joined #postfix[16:22:41] <dmbaturin> Hi everyone! I have a postfix + opendkim setup that is working perfectly except one thing: mailer-daemon notifications are sent unsigned. Is there a way to send them signed too?[16:23:23] <rob0> signing, for a null sender?[16:23:50] <rob0> there is no @domain, so what key would be used?[16:24:05] <rob0> in short, no.[16:24:28] <dmbaturin> Ah, wait, they have a null return path...[16:24:53] <dmbaturin> So there's no solution for sending those authenticated at all?[16:25:40] <rob0> there is no sender to authenticate[16:25:51] *** edux <edux!~edux@host234.181-13-73.telecom.net.ar> has joined #postfix[16:27:10] *** edux <edux!~edux@host234.181-13-73.telecom.net.ar> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:31:27] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has joined #postfix[16:31:52] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[16:32:26] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:33:12] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[16:34:02] *** lesbraz <lesbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[16:34:47] <dmbaturin> Found http://www.postfix.org/MILTER_README.html#non-smtp-milters[16:37:23] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:37:23] <rob0> but again, what key would opendkim use?[16:37:31] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[16:38:51] *** treehug88 <treehug88!~textual@pool-71-183-234-240.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:42:20] <blackflow> the one for `myhostname`?[16:43:12] <dmbaturin> Yep.[16:44:26] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[16:44:26] *** lesbraz is now known as sbraz[16:46:36] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Quit: = leaving)[16:48:06] <blackflow> another question is why would you need it, and why do you have situations where the mailer daemon would respond to an external sender[16:49:26] <dmbaturin> "Undelivered mail returned to sender".[16:50:20] <rob0> 15:42 < blackflow> the one for `myhostname`?[16:50:28] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:50:37] <dmbaturin> Someone mistypes your address, undelivered mail notification arrives unsigned, DMARC policy check fails, it gets rejected, no one knows that anything went wrong. :)[16:50:41] <rob0> but how would anyone verify it?[16:51:02] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:51:20] <rob0> DMARC policy check? Who set a DMARC policy for null sender, and how did they do it?[16:51:58] <rob0> Sounds like the real problem might be backscatter.[16:52:40] *** Poster|n <Poster|n!~poster@68-189-150-186.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:53:18] *** ghoti <ghoti!ghoti@dev-160.experiencepoint.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:53:44] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@dev-160.experiencepoint.com> has joined #postfix[16:53:47] <dmbaturin> Well... How I noticed the issue in the first place, gmail et al. been sending me DMARC reports about DKIM failures from what was undeniably my own address.[16:54:19] *** section1_ <section1_!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[16:54:22] *** ALowther__ <ALowther__!~quassel@108.190.224.222> has joined #postfix[16:54:42] *** ALowther_ <ALowther_!~quassel@108.190.224.222> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:54:54] *** Poster|n <Poster|n!~poster@68-189-150-186.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com> has joined #postfix[16:55:03] *** colinjmatt <colinjmatt!~colinjmat@matthews-co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:55:29] *** CarlenWhite <CarlenWhite!~CarlenWhi@h69-131-220-21.wdrnin.dsl.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:55:30] *** Kaffeemann <Kaffeemann!~foobar@HSI-KBW-046-005-251-146.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #postfix[16:56:08] *** CarlenWhite <CarlenWhite!~CarlenWhi@h69-131-220-21.wdrnin.dsl.dynamic.tds.net> has joined #postfix[16:57:21] *** colinjmatt <colinjmatt!~colinjmat@matthews-co.uk> has joined #postfix[16:57:38] *** Columbo0815 <Columbo0815!~foobar@HSI-KBW-046-005-251-146.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:58:30] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:58:48] *** Kaffeemann <Kaffeemann!~foobar@HSI-KBW-046-005-251-146.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #postfix[16:58:56] *** peb` <peb`!~Coin@unaffiliated/peb/x-8260976> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:59:33] *** Columbo0815 <Columbo0815!~foobar@HSI-KBW-046-005-251-146.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #postfix[16:59:37] *** peb` <peb`!~Coin@unaffiliated/peb/x-8260976> has joined #postfix[17:02:07] <blackflow> dmbaturin: someone mistypes your address and is rejected during SMTP. you don't send mail back. that's backscatter.[17:02:48] <blackflow> the only mailer daemon is when your MTA is informing local (or virtual) recipients that it failed sending out for some reason.[17:03:28] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:03:36] <blackflow> bah missed halfa sentence. I mean the only legitimate situation where MD would send mail[17:04:11] <dmbaturin> Yeah, I agree my terminilogy was sloppy there.[17:04:55] <blackflow> if you're receiving forensic reports per ruf= setting in your DMARC policy, then you're getting reports of someone spoofing or otherwise violating policies you've set forth[17:04:56] *** VibesYuth <VibesYuth!~lfesdaill@static-108-41-107-210.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #postfix[17:05:34] <blackflow> I used to get a ton of those. it appears recently the spammers got wiser and are checking before spoofing[17:09:08] <dmbaturin> blackflow: Oh, that's my point: there was my own IP address; and I checked that undelivered mail notifications do give me one of those (after checking if the server was not compromised of course!).[17:09:35] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:10:27] *** ALowther__ <ALowther__!~quassel@108.190.224.222> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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We have 'buffer' postfix queues into which our applications dump their e-mail. Up to 100k at a time. On those queues via cbpolicyd we've configured quotas of 30 mail / minuut that may dequeue. All other mails get deferred until another minute has passed and another 30 emails can be delivered.[20:34:48] <cpt-oblivious_> The problem is that if 20k mail is put into the queue, it takes a while for it to empty. If after that another 10k gets put into the queue. That 10k mail has an equal chance to get delivered as mail that is still left from the initial 20k.[20:34:59] <cpt-oblivious_> We're looking for a way to get that postfix queue to behave more FIFO (first in first out) like.[20:35:29] <cpt-oblivious_> We could disable all retry intervals so that all mail that is deferred stays deferred. And then run a cronjob that flushes the 20 oldest mail every minute.[20:35:53] <cpt-oblivious_> But in that case new mail coming in still gets 1 try before being deferred and could potentially still be delivered prior to mail already waiting in the queue.[20:36:04] <cpt-oblivious_> Any one has any idea other ideas how to accomplish this?[20:37:19] <cpt-oblivious_> Is there a way to put incoming mail immediately into the defer queue for example?[20:38:11] *** edux__ is now known as edux[20:47:12] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-255-126.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:47:57] *** Uf0_ <Uf0_!~luna@212.47.194.63> has left #postfix[20:50:00] <cpt-oblivious_> Seems like it's possible to use 'default_transport = hold', so all messages go to a hold queue, which I can then flush in a FIFO manner.[20:57:48] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[20:59:42] *** sbraz <sbraz!~sbraz@gentoo/developer/sbraz> has joined #postfix[21:01:58] *** section1_ <section1_!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:06:03] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:06:25] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[21:06:55] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:10:25] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:13:18] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:14:36] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:17:47] *** PEG <PEG!c33c4494@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.60.68.148> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:22:22] *** ALowther_ <ALowther_!~quassel@108.190.224.222> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:31:42] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[21:38:59] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:40:03] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:40:12] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[21:40:50] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p2E542D04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:43:12] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@mx1.capmegamail.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:43:23] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p57A96286.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[21:43:47] *** phoenixz <phoenixz!~quassel@mx1.capmegamail.com> has joined #postfix[21:44:51] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has quit IRC (Quit: Riding the split)[21:45:42] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has joined #postfix[21:59:47] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[22:00:00] *** VibesYuth <VibesYuth!~lfesdaill@static-108-41-107-210.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:03:56] *** edux__ <edux__!~edux@190.16.241.204> has joined #postfix[22:07:04] *** edux <edux!~edux@204-241-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:08:06] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has joined #postfix[22:09:18] *** edux__ <edux__!~edux@190.16.241.204> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:09:57] *** edux <edux!~edux@204-241-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[22:12:00] *** Alois76 <Alois76!chaos@ns.iprom.si> has joined #postfix[22:12:03] *** Alois76 <Alois76!chaos@ns.iprom.si> has left #postfix[22:14:13] *** edux <edux!~edux@204-241-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:19:19] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@191.36.239.241> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:59:33] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:05:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:07:06] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[23:16:24] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:38:06] *** woxidu <woxidu!~woxidu@c-71-192-31-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: woxidu)