December 2, 2018 
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December 2, 2018 [00:01:42] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:02:37] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@197.17.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:03:32] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF69307.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:03:47] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF69FE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[00:05:35] *** pti-jean <pti-jean!~quassel@197.17.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[00:15:50] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF69FE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has left #postfix[00:27:00] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:30:51] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@6.123.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has joined #postfix[00:30:51] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@6.123.2.81.in-addr.arpa> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:30:51] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has joined #postfix[00:33:23] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[00:35:43] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:42:14] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:44:41] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@2001:8b0:14a7:1b24::1> has joined #postfix[00:44:41] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@2001:8b0:14a7:1b24::1> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:44:41] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has joined #postfix[01:22:39] *** unoccupied <unoccupied!~unoccupie@libreboot/developer/leah> has joined #postfix[01:22:52] <unoccupied> hi, i have a fully functional mail server, but it currently only hosts 1 domain.[01:23:06] <unoccupied> i want to host the existing inboxes for this server on more than 1 domain.[01:23:28] <unoccupied> so info at domain1 dot com and info at domain2 dot com would be the same inbox. if you send to either, I'd receive your mail regardless of which domain i use[01:23:37] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[01:24:05] <unoccupied> i do not want to set up multiple same-named inboxes on different domains. so for instance info at d1 dot com and info at d2 dot com being different inboxes is not what i want[01:24:10] <unoccupied> can someone point me to a useful guide for this[01:24:33] <unoccupied> like i said i already have a mail server but for 1 domain only. everything works perfectly[01:25:30] <unoccupied> FYI I use PAM for local mail accounts. /home/user would get an inbox[01:25:39] <unoccupied> postfix is running on a debian system[01:25:56] <unoccupied> i'm willing to share my configs if necessary[01:26:29] <pj> unoccupied: local users work with any domain that is registered in the local address class.[01:26:34] <pj> !address_classes[01:26:34] <knoba> pj: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.[01:26:56] <pj> !mydomains[01:26:56] <knoba> pj: Error: "mydomains" is not a valid command.[01:27:56] <pj> !mydestination[01:27:56] <knoba> pj: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents. See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mydestination for more information.[01:28:32] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[01:28:47] <unoccupied> oh and btw just fyi it,s a public mail server[01:29:00] <pj> ok[01:29:02] <unoccupied> i only need to receive mails on other domains. but sending will still be done through the current one[01:29:26] <unoccupied> though i have the knowledge to create multiple opendkim keys for different domains[01:29:27] <pj> ok[01:29:32] <unoccupied> i'll read those guides. thanks[01:31:22] <unoccupied> i belileve i am using local users[01:31:25] <unoccupied> let me check[01:32:37] <unoccupied> oh and i'm using dovecot too[01:33:52] <unoccupied> i just need to add the other domains to mydestination right?[01:43:20] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:45:16] <lunaphyte> local *and* dovecot? why?[01:45:39] <unoccupied> i use dovecot for imap so i can connect with thunderbird to the server[01:48:25] <unoccupied> from reading those docs, it seems all i need to do is generate a new dkim key for the 2nd domain, and add the domain in mydestination. but i'll read further just to be sure[01:48:47] <unoccupied> reason for dkim is because i plan to send from 2 different domains. and receive-only from several others, so those several others won't need dkim[01:55:49] <unoccupied> vim /etc/postfix/master.cf[01:55:55] <unoccupied> whoopsies[01:57:41] <rob0> 00:29 < unoccupied> i only need to receive mails on other domains. but sending will still be done through the current one[01:58:42] *** gu1lle_1 <gu1lle_1!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[01:58:56] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:58:56] *** gu1lle_1 is now known as gu1lle_[02:03:05] <unoccupied> yeah i contradicted myself[02:03:07] <unoccupied> 2nd statement is current[02:03:11] <unoccupied> the 00:29 statement is false[02:03:33] <unoccupied> that documentation you linked is quite nifty btw. thank you[02:03:38] <unoccupied> it seems to answer most of my questions[02:08:23] *** Tykling <Tykling!tykling@znc.tyknet.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:12:10] <pj> yes, you probably just need to add the extra domain(s) to mydestination, but if you're using dovecot for delivery then you may need to do a bit more than that.[02:12:18] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[02:12:33] <pj> I get the feeling you're not using dovecot for delivery, though, you're just using it for IMAP[02:12:41] *** rob is now known as Guest21915[02:14:14] <unoccupied> for imap yes[02:14:17] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:14:48] <unoccupied> just imap[02:14:50] <unoccupied> nothing else[02:14:55] <unoccupied> postfix handles everything else[02:15:14] <unoccupied> i did something close to this guide 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<[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.7> has joined #postfix[09:59:56] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.24.162> has joined #postfix[10:11:08] *** mTeK <mTeK!~quassel@216.249.97.206> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:16:42] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[10:18:37] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@www.aventia.pw> has quit IRC (Quit: %Cya%)[10:24:26] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@www.aventia.pw> has joined #postfix[10:24:46] *** reiffert <reiffert!~foobar@p4FF69FE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[10:26:03] <reiffert> Hello! I have postfix configured as a relay. That is it accepts e-mails from local systems and then sends it to a smarthost. How would I achieve the following: for every incoming e-mail check for attachments with a certain filename extension and then save these locally?[10:26:27] <reiffert> (and then deliver the email to the smarthost)[10:26:40] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:42:53] <reiffert> It sounds as if I want to duplicate all incoming e-mail, send the original to the smarthost and send it to my own script via pipe for the duplicate...[10:43:34] <reiffert> need to find out how to duplicate e-mails and how to pipe to my own script ...[10:47:34] <reiffert> always_bcc seems good .. so lets find out how to pipe for local user delivery[10:55:04] *** M6HZ <M6HZ!~M6HZ@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #postfix[10:56:04] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[10:59:00] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-251-153.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[11:00:36] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:01:14] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[11:06:14] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:07:13] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[11:12:02] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:23:04] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[11:24:22] *** mTeK <mTeK!~quassel@216.249.97.206> has joined #postfix[11:29:38] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:30:41] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:31:03] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[11:43:27] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:51:50] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[11:51:53] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[11:53:38] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:b824:c26e:2480:36d> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:54:17] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:cc7a:b1b7:5689:a283> has joined #postfix[11:59:48] *** jcarpenter2 <jcarpenter2!rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:38bb:8176:ea17:ebda> has joined #postfix[12:00:50] *** rofl_ <rofl_!~rofl@2603:3016:1e89:8000:38bb:8176:ea17:ebda> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:42:06] *** `whoami` <`whoami`!~user@unaffiliated/whoami/x-8914028> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:42:49] *** `whoami` <`whoami`!~user@unaffiliated/whoami/x-8914028> has joined #postfix[12:48:38] *** hgnoel1980 <hgnoel1980!~hgnoel198@host81-143-199-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:49:48] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:50:02] *** hgnoel1980 <hgnoel1980!~hgnoel198@host81-143-199-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has joined #postfix[12:59:29] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[13:06:48] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:14:09] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[13:16:37] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:50:12] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[13:58:28] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[14:00:47] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:01:06] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[14:12:25] *** SkyWay <SkyWay!~arm@79.119.66.104> has joined #postfix[14:13:04] <SkyWay> !getting_help[14:13:05] <knoba> SkyWay: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[14:13:25] <SkyWay> !showconfig[14:13:25] <knoba> SkyWay: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[14:17:04] <rob0> reiffert, a pipe(8) transport(5) is indeed one option, but it's usually simpler to always_bcc to a local(8) user address, where you can have a ~/.forward file. See also aliases(5) for this.[14:18:50] *** hgnoel1980 <hgnoel1980!~hgnoel198@host81-143-199-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:19:14] *** hgnoel1980 <hgnoel1980!~hgnoel198@host81-143-199-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has joined #postfix[14:31:00] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.214.232> has joined #postfix[14:38:48] <reiffert> rob0: I was chosing the always_bcc option. Looking out for doing the piping/scripting from .forward...[14:48:37] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:57:36] *** andylavarre <andylavarre!~andy@mobile-107-107-57-175.mycingular.net> has joined #postfix[15:05:33] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[15:21:30] <SkyWay> a good tutorial for getting postfix and dovecot set up ? as secure as possible.. for my home server?[15:22:57] <tuxick> wiki.dovecot.org[15:23:32] <rob0> reiffert, you could always_bcc to a pipe, or you could always_bcc to a system user.[15:23:47] <rob0> !yell SkyWay basic[15:23:47] <knoba> rob0: Error: "yell" is not a valid command.[15:23:54] <rob0> !tell SkyWay basic[15:23:54] <knoba> SkyWay: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[15:24:11] <rob0> yell OUGHT to be a valid command, grr[15:25:15] <tuxick> all caps, like !aol[15:26:01] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~Free@81-235-33-215-no286.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #postfix[15:26:09] <SkyWay> oh you ..[15:26:14] <SkyWay> thanks![15:28:58] <rob0> SkyWay, BTW, I would not generally recommend any third-party tutorials.[15:29:27] <SkyWay> yeah, but for me, it's like trying to get done 4th time already, so it's frustrating ..[15:30:44] <SkyWay> in a way i'm ridiculous, i'm trying to get things done in 1 hour, very secure, and without much knowledge .. it's not possible, but i have 5 hours before leaving to work :)[15:30:44] <SkyWay> this appears to be a week-end project[15:31:26] <SkyWay> lots of reading .. and so on[15:31:26] *** buki <buki!~buki@dev.null.cz> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:31:26] *** buki_ <buki_!~buki@dev.null.cz> has joined #postfix[15:31:26] <rob0> For one thing, most/all of those tutorials are for mysql+virtual users, and you probably do not need that.[15:31:51] <rob0> The !basic link is something you can get done quickly.[15:33:59] *** echelog <echelog!~echelog@108.61.103.42> has joined #postfix[15:34:04] <SkyWay> maybe i'm seeing it wrong[15:34:09] <rob0> you'll only use it for mail? Nothing else?[15:34:12] <tuxick> feel free to disable shell[15:34:16] <rob0> ^^[15:34:31] *** daemonkeeper <daemonkeeper!~arno@debian/developer/arno> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:34:39] *** daemonkeeper <daemonkeeper!~arno@debian/developer/arno> has joined #postfix[15:34:44] <SkyWay> hmm .. i currently have .. transmission, flexget, znc, chevereto ..[15:34:48] <SkyWay> so no rob0 :)[15:34:59] <SkyWay> tuxick, you say add the new user to /bin/false ?[15:35:22] <rob0> set the user's SHELL to something like that[15:35:58] <tuxick> false, nologin[15:36:01] <tuxick> there's some options[15:36:10] *** ghoti <ghoti!ghoti@75.98.206.160> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:36:53] <SkyWay> ok, but postfix would get the user from there?[15:37:03] <SkyWay> user and password also ?[15:37:06] *** ghoti <ghoti!ghoti@dev-160.experiencepoint.com> has joined #postfix[15:37:07] <tuxick> ye[15:37:13] <tuxick> no[15:37:22] <tuxick> leave that to lda/lmtp[15:37:40] <rob0> user from passwd(5), password from PAM or shadow(5)[15:38:05] <rob0> depending on your OS/distro of course[15:39:13] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:39:34] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[15:42:16] *** SkyWay <SkyWay!~arm@79.119.66.104> has quit IRC (Quit: Donations needed! My ISP wants money..)[15:48:25] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:48:34] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[15:53:08] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[16:01:50] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:03:09] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[16:05:04] *** ALowther <ALowther!~quassel@072-185-202-074.res.spectrum.com> has joined #postfix[16:07:03] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[16:11:59] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[16:18:33] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[16:26:05] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[16:28:12] *** szonek <szonek!~szonek@dedicated-ait246.rev.nazwa.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:29:00] *** szonek <szonek!~szonek@dedicated-ait246.rev.nazwa.pl> has joined #postfix[16:38:25] *** Zig <Zig!~kvirc@d8D87066D.access.telenet.be> has joined #postfix[16:42:29] *** Zig <Zig!~kvirc@d8D87066D.access.telenet.be> has left #postfix[16:48:12] *** SpindizZzy <SpindizZzy!~kvirc@unaffiliated/spindizzzy> has joined #postfix[16:48:24] <SpindizZzy> !getting_help[16:48:24] <knoba> SpindizZzy: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[16:48:38] <SpindizZzy> !showconfig[16:48:38] <knoba> SpindizZzy: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[16:55:47] <SpindizZzy> !relevant_logs[16:55:47] <knoba> SpindizZzy: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[16:58:21] <SpindizZzy> hello world :) Trying to get openDKIM working on a Debian 8 server. I followed this guide: https://linode.com/docs/email/postfix/configure-spf-and-dkim-in-postfix-on-debian-8/ , but still getting this line in mail.log: postfix/smtpd[370]: warning: connect to Milter service local:/opendkim/opendkim.sock: No such file or directory. Paste of systems etting s and config here: https://pastebin.com/Yqb[16:59:13] <lunaphyte> did you use the documentation for the software?[16:59:33] <lunaphyte> if you need support for that how to, you'd need to contact its author.[17:00:34] <SpindizZzy> lunaphyte: even though I changed the location of the Milter service in my configs, it seems like Postfix still looks for it in the 'old' location[17:02:26] <lunaphyte> which documentation did you use?[17:04:19] <SpindizZzy> I started on the Debian wiki, but hopped over to several 'walkthroughs' when stuff wasn't working[17:04:33] <lunaphyte> did you use the documentation for the software?[17:05:23] <SpindizZzy> and by 'the software' you mean what exactly ?[17:05:32] <lunaphyte> hmm?[17:05:32] *** ALowther <ALowther!~quassel@072-185-202-074.res.spectrum.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[17:05:36] <lunaphyte> what software you using?[17:05:40] <lunaphyte> *are you[17:05:41] <SpindizZzy> postfix ? or openDKIM ?[17:05:45] <lunaphyte> yes[17:06:00] <SpindizZzy> well, I use both[17:06:07] <lunaphyte> naturally[17:06:36] <SpindizZzy> but mails from port25 still reported openDKIM not working, so I started digging. And my logs spit out the error posted above[17:06:37] <blackflow> last pastebin gone. but that path to opendkim sock doesn't look rihgt[17:06:55] <blackflow> (unless you deliberately changed it in both places - postfix and opendkim)[17:07:01] <SpindizZzy> blackflow: https://pastebin.com/YqbDJMfi[17:07:19] <lunaphyte> !tutorial[17:07:19] <knoba> lunaphyte: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[17:07:37] <SpindizZzy> blackflow: I set it to SOCKET="local:/var/spool/postfix/opendkim/opendkim.sock"[17:07:37] <lunaphyte> maybe if you use the documentation instead, these "problems" won't happen?[17:07:50] <blackflow> SpindizZzy: and /etc/opendkim.conf? where is the socket specified in there?[17:08:38] <blackflow> oh... "local:/...." doesn't look right for postfix. did you mean unix:/[17:08:51] <SpindizZzy> blackflow: Socket inet:12301@localhost[17:09:33] <lunaphyte> also, using inet instead of unix makes many of those other "problems" go away[17:10:02] <blackflow> SpindizZzy: right, so if that's where opendkim listens for connections, that's where you should point your postfix config at[17:10:44] <blackflow> personally I'd prefer a unix socket but agreed with lunaphyte, tcp sockets suffer less permission issues[17:11:08] <lunaphyte> you're telling opendkim to listen on an inet socket, but then telling postfix to connect via a unix socket? how could that work?[17:11:23] <SpindizZzy> so change non_smtpd_milters to inet:12301@localhost[17:13:01] <blackflow> and smtpd_milters I suppose, but yes, that looks like the URL you'd use, if that's where opendkim.conf is set to listen[17:13:46] <SpindizZzy> will try that right now[17:19:33] <SpindizZzy> error is gone from logfiles, but port25 still reporting emails not DKIM signed[17:20:23] <lunaphyte> where's the !getting_help pastebin?[17:21:22] <SpindizZzy> lunaphyte: you mean this one ? https://pastebin.com/YqbDJMfi[17:21:34] <lunaphyte> hmm?[17:21:40] <lunaphyte> you said you changed settings[17:21:48] <SpindizZzy> ah sorry[17:22:27] <blackflow> SpindizZzy: you also need to look at dkim, its config, and what it reports/logs.[17:22:55] <blackflow> note that dkim signing is not automagic upon apt install. you have to set up keys, DNS TXT records, ...[17:24:47] <SpindizZzy> https://pastebin.com/UJuj4jJa[17:24:58] <SpindizZzy> I did setup keys, added the DNS records[17:26:02] <SpindizZzy> opendkim-testkey -d mydomain.xx -s 201812 reports no errors[17:26:18] <SpindizZzy> so I believe the keys are in working order[17:27:31] <blackflow> SpindizZzy: look at LogWhy opendkim.conf option, and look at the logs after you send a test message[17:28:52] <SpindizZzy> blackflow: will do[17:28:52] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:42:46] <lunaphyte> if you don't follow the instructions, we can't help[17:42:59] <SpindizZzy> port25 now reports DKIM passed (there was a small typo in my Signing Table, but your LogWhy pointed me to it blackflow)[17:43:27] <SpindizZzy> should this bother me ? in mail.log: no signing table match for 'auth-results at verifier dot port25.com'[17:53:16] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@www.aventia.pw> has quit IRC (Quit: %Cya%)[17:58:40] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@www.aventia.pw> has joined #postfix[18:01:33] *** unoccupied <unoccupied!~unoccupie@libreboot/developer/leah> has joined #postfix[18:01:37] <unoccupied> hi[18:01:43] <unoccupied> thank you for helping me yesterday[18:01:49] <unoccupied> my mail server is fully and correctly set up now[18:02:16] <unoccupied> now i just have to configure sendmail on my other server, as a client. that other server runs my website, which sends emails[18:02:48] <unoccupied> it currently does send emails, but on its own. i want to make it connect through my proper server so that mails sent out are valid (SPF, DKIM, DMARC etc)[18:05:52] <unoccupied> and.... as i began to discover yesterday, the postfix documentation is really nifty :)[18:05:54] <unoccupied> http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#relay_from[18:06:15] <unoccupied> http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html[18:09:33] <lunaphyte> SpindizZzy: that's an opendkim question, not postfix[18:09:42] <unoccupied> and google dns now has my new DNS records[18:09:50] <lunaphyte> unoccupied: sendmail on a server that's not a mail server? why?[18:09:54] <unoccupied> which means i can now safely send emails to gmail users :)[18:10:01] <unoccupied> lunaphyte: I have a company website:[18:10:11] <unoccupied> minifree.org runs on 81.187.191.146[18:10:16] <lunaphyte> unoccupied: that doesn't answer the question[18:10:25] <unoccupied> however, minifree.org mail server runs on 81.187.191.150[18:10:29] <lunaphyte> for servers which aren't mail servers, mail server software should not be installed[18:10:34] <lunaphyte> makes sense, right?[18:10:41] <SpindizZzy> lunaphyte: you are right. thanks :)[18:10:41] <unoccupied> that site runs wordpress, which sends emails[18:10:54] <unoccupied> when someone orders (i have commerce plugin), they get an email from the site[18:11:18] <lunaphyte> for computers that just need to send email, like for example a web server, you wouldn't install mail server software. that would be quite silly[18:11:22] <unoccupied> right now they receive an email from 81.187.191.146, for which DNS does not define PTR, SPF, or DKIM[18:11:29] <unoccupied> oh[18:11:36] <unoccupied> i'm not installing a mail server on that machine[18:11:51] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@www.aventia.pw> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:11:54] <lunaphyte> what are you installing?[18:11:54] <unoccupied> i'm planning to configure sendmail on 146 (web server) to relay emails to 150 (smtp server)[18:11:58] <unoccupied> does this make sense?[18:12:01] <unoccupied> just sendmail[18:12:03] <unoccupied> nothing else[18:12:08] <lunaphyte> sendmail, the software?[18:12:14] <lunaphyte> that's mail server software[18:12:14] <unoccupied> yes. it's already installed[18:12:29] <lunaphyte> that wouldn't makes sense then, no.[18:12:30] <unoccupied> right. my site uses sendmail to send mails[18:12:39] <unoccupied> right now the site sends out mails itself, which is wrong[18:12:52] <lunaphyte> you should be using a null client for that. i recommend msmtp[18:12:54] <unoccupied> i'm configuring it to send mails (as client) through the mail server, which is a separate host[18:13:01] <unoccupied> msmtp?[18:13:07] <lunaphyte> !parrot[18:13:07] <knoba> lunaphyte: "parrot" : please don't repeat what someone else has said and tack a question mark on to the end. if you don't understand something about what was said, or have a question, that's fine - just ask it. those who donate their time here aren't interested in guessing what the ? actually means, typing an explanation, and hoping that they're right.[18:13:24] <unoccupied> ah, yes[18:13:27] <unoccupied> https://marlam.de/msmtp/[18:13:41] <unoccupied> so I go in my site's database and configure it to use the appropriate msmtp command to send emails[18:13:59] <unoccupied> right now it uses sendmail. but i will configure it to use msmtp, with msmtp configured to auth through my mail server[18:14:03] <unoccupied> is this what you are proposing?[18:14:18] <lunaphyte> like all null clients, msmtp provides a sendmail(1) compatible binary, but that is not the same thing as the sendmail software itself[18:14:39] <unoccupied> i will apt-get purge sendmail[18:14:43] <unoccupied> don't want my site's IP being blacklisted[18:14:44] <lunaphyte> however, that said, i would really encourage you to just use smtp to submit mail[18:14:51] <unoccupied> and i'll configure msmtp[18:14:59] <unoccupied> the web server only needs to be a mail client, not server[18:15:04] <unoccupied> mail server is a separate host[18:15:16] <lunaphyte> use a wordpress plugin and just submit mail directly to your msa. no need for a null client at all[18:15:20] <unoccupied> on my old setup it was ok, because mail and web was the same machine[18:15:38] <unoccupied> which plugin do you recommend?[18:15:53] <lunaphyte> there are many such plugins, and the good ones fully support encryption and authentication, which should be used[18:16:05] <unoccupied> I've deleted sendmail on the web server. now it can't send mails. i will follow your advice instead[18:16:48] <unoccupied> can you recommend me a few good plugins to investigate?[18:17:05] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@www.aventia.pw> has joined #postfix[18:17:11] <lunaphyte> i don't remember what i'd used in the past[18:17:27] <lunaphyte> you're more than welcome to find some and ask for opinions, in ##email[18:18:20] <unoccupied> what about the ones recommended on this page[18:18:22] <unoccupied> https://www.cminds.com/3-best-plugins-send-emails-wordpress-site/[18:18:27] <unoccupied> ah, ##email ok[18:19:32] <unoccupied> i've moved my question to ##email. thanks[18:27:43] <double-p> in wordpress? something like a /dev/null mailer :D[18:29:34] <unoccupied> well lunaphyte in ##email has helped me. i've concluded that i should use this plugin:[18:29:36] <unoccupied> https://wordpress.org/plugins/check-email/[18:29:50] <unoccupied> this way, my site will correctly send out emails, properly authed through the (separately hosted) mail server[18:30:21] <lunaphyte> yeah, not on topic here[18:30:40] <lunaphyte> those interested in participating in the discussion are welcome to join ##email[18:36:05] <double-p> sorry :)[18:37:16] <unoccupied> lunaphyte: thank you for your help. i really appreciate it[18:37:25] <unoccupied> i have everything i need now, thanks to you[18:38:48] *** SpindizZzy <SpindizZzy!~kvirc@unaffiliated/spindizzzy> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[18:39:30] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:48:40] *** ghormoon <ghormoon!~ghormoon@ghorland.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:50:28] *** ghormoon <ghormoon!~ghormoon@ghorland.net> has joined #postfix[18:52:29] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[19:04:55] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:06:05] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[19:07:14] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:14:41] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[19:15:34] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has joined #postfix[19:23:15] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:24:08] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[19:26:54] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:28:04] *** graphene <graphene!~graphene@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[19:32:48] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:33:03] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[19:47:50] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:48:06] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[19:50:56] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-251-153.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:51:18] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[19:52:14] *** ezio <ezio!~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio> has joined #postfix[19:52:51] *** rob <rob!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[19:53:13] *** rob is now known as Guest35550[19:53:30] <ezio> I just need to send transactional email for my site and I want to have as low SCL. What should I do, broad strokes.[19:54:25] <rob0> "scl"?[19:54:41] <lunaphyte> i suppose that means spam confidence level[19:54:48] <rob0> Maybe consider an ESP[19:54:52] <rob0> !esp[19:54:52] <knoba> rob0: "esp" : Email Service Provider[19:55:16] <lunaphyte> which is just a made up acronym for numerous other concepts and terms that have long since been commonly defined[19:56:35] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:56:47] <ezio> I already have ESP but not the kind that you're talking about.[19:56:57] <ezio> So you're saying a third-party provider?[19:57:35] <ezio> I don't like the idea of getting stuck with something like mailchimp if traffic suddenly increases.[19:57:52] <lunaphyte> in any case, deliverability is a complex topic. "broad strokes" is not of practical value, other than "act responsibly, and with care and precision"[19:58:08] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[19:58:14] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[19:58:19] <lunaphyte> also, not on topic here. you could try ##email for further discussion[19:58:27] <double-p> aka "we no spammer" wont do[19:58:34] <ezio> Okay. I guess I just want a submission server with encrypted mail and spf?[19:58:52] <lunaphyte> you could try ##email for further discussion[19:59:02] <rob0> Seriously, if you're not prepared to do a lot of work and learning, an ESP can help quite a lot.[19:59:24] <rob0> those places exist for good reason[20:00:32] *** Guest35550 <Guest35550!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:00:33] <ezio> I have done the work and learning in the past. I think I get it mostly. I was just wondering if I was on the right track.[20:01:39] <ezio> I'll have to relearn a bit. I even have DMARC notifications from gmail.[20:01:48] <ezio> err google and hotmail.[20:02:11] *** rob_ <rob_!~rob@5ED0E3DB.cm-7-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[20:03:27] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:03:38] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[20:03:46] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:04:03] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[20:04:51] *** AlexPortable <AlexPortable!uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zjgbypgtrtsdpxxt> has joined #postfix[20:19:01] *** hgnoel1980 <hgnoel1980!~hgnoel198@host81-143-199-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:19:24] *** hgnoel1980 <hgnoel1980!~hgnoel198@host81-143-199-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has joined #postfix[20:20:59] <reiffert> rob0: yeah that's how I do it .. plus some additional sudo magic and there you go[20:25:39] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:26:55] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:27:26] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:28:08] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[20:28:13] *** sircle <sircle!67ff0516@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.255.5.22> has joined #postfix[20:28:27] *** sircle <sircle!67ff0516@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.255.5.22> has left #postfix[20:35:41] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[20:35:48] <rob0> hmm, don't know why you'd want sudo for text processing, but anyway,[20:35:51] * rob0 afk[20:46:14] *** Intelo <Intelo!~Intelo@gateway/tor-sasl/intelo> has joined #postfix[20:48:13] <Intelo> Sending mail via echo "My message" | mail -s subject user at mail dot com works fine but when I send via a thirdpart nodemailer (nodejs lib), it says lost connection after RCPT. 451 4.3.0 <user at mail dot com>: Temporary lookup failure;[20:53:04] <Intelo> rob0,[20:55:21] <Intelo> lunaphyte, ?[21:03:53] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[21:06:36] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[21:21:32] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:26:22] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[21:30:18] <Zerberus> !tell Intelo getting_help[21:30:18] <knoba> Intelo: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[21:30:56] <Intelo> last chars are the logs Zerberus[21:31:10] <Intelo> iam not using any auth. Thats all what I am getting[21:31:42] <Intelo> Zerberus, TCPT connection lost, Temp lookup failure.[21:31:53] <Intelo> happening with telnet too[21:32:00] <Intelo> when I enter recipient[21:32:30] <Intelo> o.^ any idea?[21:32:48] <Intelo> Does it have to do anything with alias or dns resolution?[21:32:57] <Intelo> or something else?[21:34:09] <Zerberus> Intelo: please follow the factoid[21:34:42] <Intelo> Zerberus, ok.[21:41:19] <Intelo> Zerberus, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QwqDbCDd5V/[21:41:54] <Zerberus> that's not what you are asked for[21:43:41] <Intelo> Zerberus, want logs as well?[21:43:51] <Zerberus> !showconfig[21:43:51] <knoba> Zerberus: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[21:44:00] <Zerberus> !relevant_logs[21:44:00] <knoba> Zerberus: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[21:46:16] <Intelo> k[21:50:40] <Intelo> Zerberus, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cXdXc4qr6S/[21:51:20] <Zerberus> I think you do not really read what I am writing[21:52:15] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:53:09] <Intelo> Zerberus, pasting postconf -nf and postconf -Mf Do you need anything else?[21:53:42] <Zerberus> fix "non-null host address bits in "103.255.5.0/8"" and address a valid recipient domain[21:55:27] <Intelo> Zerberus, Pardon and https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YFJMXWGN5h/[21:55:47] <Intelo> Zerberus, whats meant by non-null hosts? and how to fix it[21:56:07] <Zerberus> think about what's wrong with 103.255.5.0/8[21:56:41] <Intelo> the /8 is wrong?[21:57:40] * thumbs blinks[21:57:51] <Zerberus> despite the fact that you should not really add networks, which subnet do you control[21:57:52] <Zerberus> ?[21:57:52] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has joined #postfix[21:58:04] <thumbs> Zerberus: I still think folks that know nothing about networking should not run servers, period.[22:01:03] <Intelo> Zerberus, the 103... is the ip of a dsl for testing[22:01:38] <Intelo> 103..../24 solved[22:01:43] <Intelo> the issue[22:07:39] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:09:30] <Intelo> Zerberus, ok, when I send mail by echo "My message" | mail -s subject some1 at gmail dot com. Works fine. But when by a node.js lib, the hotmail recipient gets delivered but the gmail one says: "status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c01::1b] said: 550-5.7.1 [2a00:d880:5:123::873b] Our system has detected that this message does 550-5.7.1 not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records and 550-5.7.1 authentication. Please[22:09:30] <Intelo> review 550-5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=IPv6AuthError for more information 550 5.7.1 . i25si378825edj.422 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command))" I am not using ipv6 anywhere.[22:10:54] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[22:11:10] *** cilly <cilly!~cilly@unaffiliated/cilly> has joined #postfix[22:11:31] <Zerberus> no IPv6 PTR[22:11:47] <Intelo> hm[22:11:58] <Intelo> Zerberus, but when I send via mail -s.... it passes[22:12:19] <Intelo> the only differenct is that the node.js lib that fails is not on the same server where postfix is[22:14:41] <Intelo> Zerberus, if it was about PTR, why would mail -s from CLI pass?[22:36:55] <Intelo> Zerberus, I moved the lib code to the same server where postfix is, ran it and it gives the Temporary lookup failure again. What could be the reason of that?[22:37:53] <Zerberus> patebi[22:38:04] <Zerberus> sorry, pastebin the exact log content[22:39:56] <Intelo> Zerberus, ok, meanwhile can you clarify the PTR thing[22:43:15] <Zerberus> Intelo: we don't have all information to compare the 2 situations[22:48:28] <Intelo> Zerberus, ok, heres what I got till now. If I use the same server for nodejs code app and postfix, it works. If both are at different servers, only hotmail mail is sent, for gmail, i get the same error.[22:49:12] <Intelo> I solved the Lookup error though.[22:49:53] <Intelo> Zerberus, any guesses why I get the PTR thing? Same servers works if sender is also the mail server ip.[22:50:53] <Zerberus> don't setup Postfix to use IPv6 if you can'[22:50:58] <Zerberus> t reliably use it[22:51:43] <Intelo> Zerberus, so you suggest not to use ipv6 for postfix?[22:51:49] <Intelo> whats the last line? reliably?[22:52:19] <Intelo> oh, "dont use ipv6 if you cant reliably use it"[22:52:28] <thumbs> Zerberus: goes back to my "don't run a server if you don't know networking" comment[22:52:59] <Intelo> o.^[22:53:05] <Zerberus> in case you have no possibility to define a PTR not all recipient MTAs will accept you mail, you see that in your log[22:53:28] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:53:57] <Intelo> Zerberus, but same recipient accepted my mail when I sent the mail via purely the postfix server I had[22:54:17] <Zerberus> we are driving in circles[22:54:50] *** AlexPortable <AlexPortable!uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zjgbypgtrtsdpxxt> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:58:56] <Intelo> Zerberus, try once more to summarise[23:04:51] <Intelo> Zerberus, you were pretty helpful@[23:04:53] <Intelo> thakns![23:32:49] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[23:36:16] *** wolfshappen <wolfshappen!~wolfshapp@irc.furworks.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:37:32] *** wolfshappen_ <wolfshappen_!~wolfshapp@irc.furworks.de> has joined #postfix[23:46:46] *** _cr_ <_cr_!~quassel@srv.ncxs.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:47:35] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix