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[00:11:21] <Omnifarious> I'm having difficulty figuring out how to create a particular Postfix configuration...
[00:12:40] <Omnifarious> I want two things... first, refuse delivery if the recipient isn't for a domain I'm for (no relay, which doesn't seem hard) or if the recipient doesn't match one of a few specified regexps.
[00:13:09] <Omnifarious> Secondly, I want a program that maps local recipients to either maildir directories or other local recipients.
[00:13:44] <Omnifarious> And this program shouldn't care what's in the passwd file.
[00:14:27] <Omnifarious> One day I would also like to add a recipient domain and have every message to it handled by mailman, but not initially.
[00:15:44] <Omnifarious> It would also be nice to run incoming mail through greylisting, an RBL, and certain easy and fast spamassassin checks before delivery is accepted at the SMTP level.
[00:16:51] <Omnifarious> And relaying should be allowed from particular IP addresses or from a local agent.
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[02:22:48] <pj> Omnifarious: postfix can do all of that, much of it is done by default. I would recommend that instead of greylisting you look at postscreen, though, which is much better than greylisting...
[02:22:54] <pj> !tell Omnifarious basic
[02:22:59] <pj> !tell Omnifarious postscreen
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[02:48:55] <Omnifarious> pj: Thanks!
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[09:32:22] <Walt005> oi and ellooo, can someone in here tell me why postfix tells me every morning that /var/mail/ is full. but it isnt... halp!?
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[13:34:04] <kmq> You'll probably need to be a bit more specific. See the topic for guideance on what's needed
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[15:34:17] <jelly> I have a couple thousand remaining users that can still send mail over an unauthed postfix server. Some of them are behind CGNAT. To identify a user I need to store (IP, source port, timestamp) instead of just (IP, timestamp). Is there a way to tell postfix to save source port value in log or in Received?
[15:34:42] <jelly> preferably one that does not involve patching the source code and rebuilding!
[15:35:05] <Nit_> why not use auth ?
[15:35:23] <Nit_> legacy reasons ?
[15:35:50] <jelly> everything is legacy in this situation, if I could use auth I wouldn't be asking.
[15:39:32] <celyr> NAT444 funny things
[15:39:56] <celyr> jelly, what about using something else for logging ?
[15:40:20] <celyr> otherwise you are on patch+rebuild
[15:40:45] <Nit_> there is a client_port= for Postfix version 3.0 and later
[15:41:45] <Nit_> you cloud make a simple policy service that just log what you want in the format you want
[15:46:31] <rob0> maybe that was what I was thinking of
[15:46:44] <rob0> I thought there was a way to log client ports
[15:47:00] <rob0> but I didn't find it in my own config
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[15:53:59] <lunaphyte> jelly: postscreen logs the source port
[15:56:50] <Nit_> actually, I have source ports in my postfix logs
[15:58:15] <Nit_> Dec 28 15:55:54 nefle postfix/smtpd[11128]: connect from myhost.example.com[192.0.2.164]:1234
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[15:59:16] <Nit_> Dec 28 15:39:18 nefle postfix/smtpd[25817]: 3z6smk4x9vzB7Z5: client=myhost.example.com[192.0.2.164]:1234
[15:59:37] <Nit_> jelly: which version of postfix are you using ?
[16:00:21] <Nit_> (I am on debian stable, so debian postfix 3.1.6 for me)
[16:00:30] <celyr> well
[16:00:43] <celyr> It doesn't get printed in every log line
[16:00:46] <celyr> for example:
[16:01:22] <celyr> Dec 28 15:59:41 mail postfix/smtpd[12515]: connect from unknown[yy.200.12.xx]
[16:01:35] <celyr> but
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[16:02:31] <Nit_> celyr: I have a port number to every 'connect from' log lines
[16:02:50] <celyr> I don't have it in any :D
[16:03:01] <celyr> I guess they added it
[16:03:19] <buki> proly not default, since the only colon in my logs is in IPv6 addresses :)
[16:03:32] <buki> (postfix 3.2.4)
[16:03:49] <Nit_> it's the smtpd_client_port_logging settings
[16:04:01] <Nit_> « This feature is available in Postfix 2.5 and later. »
[16:05:01] <Nit_> but indeed, it's not the default
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[16:11:04] <jelly> thanks. This system is on 2.9.6 and to be upgraded before 2018-05-31 (EOL for Debian 7 LTS), I'll try that
[16:16:02] <jelly> adding it to Received would be a cherry on top, but I can live with this until customers are told to stop using unauth submission
[16:16:13] <jelly> Dec 28 16:14:45 in1 postfix/smtpd[247647]: 3z6tYd3BrTz15hq: client=mail-io0-f193.google.com[209.85.223.193]:35027
[16:24:56] <jelly> (yes I have inbound mx traffic and submission traffic on same machine, same port :-()
[16:25:51] <lunaphyte> what a yucky mess :(
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[16:36:44] <aaap> hello
[16:37:20] <aaap> may i know do you do 'whitelist' from a particular source for postfix?
[16:37:33] <lunaphyte> that's a bad idea. why?
[16:37:41] <lunaphyte> what actual problem are you trying to solve?
[16:39:05] <aaap> lunaphyte, my email is not accepting email sent from an gmail account as the google mailserver ip is blacklist at spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net;
[16:39:22] <lunaphyte> aaap: you should use postcreen for that
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[16:39:43] <aaap> lunaphyte, care to expplain more what i can do with postscreen?
[16:41:10] <rob0> SORBS is a bit too aggressive to use for rejecting; it's better with a lower value in postscreen.
[16:41:53] <rob0> But all gmail outbound hosts are listed in:
[16:41:55] <aaap> rob0, should i drop sorbs from the list ?
[16:41:56] <rob0> !dnswl
[16:41:56]
<knoba> rob0: "dnswl" : http://www.dnswl.org The DNS Whitelist protects against false positives from known good senders
[16:42:07] <lunaphyte> postscreen incorporates both whitelists and blacklists, and uses a cumulative, adjustable scoring mechanism, so this "problem" you're having generally doesn't exist in the first place, when postscreen has been configured responsibly
[16:43:53] <rob0> BTW the way gmail does it, I think: they do content filtering and sender scoring, so that suspicious content and/or spammy (hi spammy! :) ) senders are routed through a certain block of outbound hosts.
[16:44:17] <rob0> That way sites who wish to be more aggressive against spam can go ahead and reject before DATA.
[16:44:52] <aaap> free email from gmail
[16:44:54] <rob0> So I believe this issue you're having is by design.
[16:44:56] <aaap> spammer love using it
[16:45:28] <rob0> !whatis cheatsheet 2
[16:45:45] <rob0> ^^ that's an example of SORBS in a scoring system
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[17:00:48] <cmarjanec> hi! i have a question about problem with sending mail via smtp. i'm getting "Sender address rejected: not logged in" error after I joined my server to IPv6 network. I have changed inet_protocols and mynetwork settings, but when I'm trying to send mail from localhost (via roundcube) I get the mentioned error. Is there any way to get a bit more verbose message to easily debug what's wrong with my config?
[17:04:48] <lunaphyte> cmarjanec: you need to configure roundcube to authenticate properly
[17:05:28] <lunaphyte> roundcube should be configured to use submission, encryption, and smtp auth
[17:06:33] <rob0> definitely do NOT need verbose logs for that
[17:07:07] <rob0> The problem is, you enabled a feature you don't understand, and you actually might not need.
[17:07:27] <cmarjanec> lunaphyte: when I had IPv4 only everything worked - so as you said reconfiguration of roundcube might solve the problem?
[17:07:36] <rob0> well, yes, and roundcube should AUTH
[17:08:28] <cmarjanec> rob0: i believe you're right that I enabled something I don't need, but otherwise I don't have idea how to learn things someday I'd like to know in detail ;)
[17:08:33] <lunaphyte> cmarjanec: mynetworks should never ever have been used for that sort of thing
[17:08:50] <lunaphyte> that was a mistake :(
[17:08:52] <rob0> !smtpd_sender_login_maps
[17:08:52] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_sender_login_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup table with the SASL login names that own sender (MAIL FROM) addresses.
[17:09:29] <rob0> !factoids search mismatch
[17:09:29] <knoba> rob0: "reject_sender_login_mismatch" : Reject the request when $smtpd_sender_login_maps specifies an owner for the MAIL FROM address, but the client is not (SASL) logged in as that MAIL FROM address owner; or when the client is (SASL) logged in, but the client login name doesn't own the MAIL FROM address according to $smtpd_sender_login_maps.
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[21:34:42] <ukleinek> hello, I want to reject mail sent to localuser+something at mydomain dot tld, localuser at mydomain dot tld and localhost+somethingdifferent at mydomain dot tld should still work, so it's only about this single address.
[21:35:03] <ukleinek> It seems I don't find the right words to let google answer this question for me
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[21:36:51] <rob0> !google
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<knoba> rob0: "google" : Those who use Google before reading the Postfix documentation, if fortunate, end up at http://www.postfix.org/ . If not, they end up in a jumble of bad questions, misleading or wrong answers, and outdated information.
[21:36:55] <rob0> :)
[21:37:03] <rob0> !check_recipient_access
[21:37:03] <knoba> rob0: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
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[22:04:43] <ukleinek> rob0: I interpret that as "postfix' docs are better than those of $random_other_program and so google works worse than browsing the docs"
[22:04:59] <ukleinek> rob0: and it seems asking here, also works fine, thanks :-)
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[22:19:47] * ukleinek fails to understand the documentation though :-|
[22:20:17] <ukleinek> I created /etc/postfix/access now, but it seems I need some more magic to let postfix make use of it.
[22:21:30] * ukleinek suspects something involving smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[22:24:09] <rob0> "access" is a terrible name for an access file. The name should suggest what it is used for.
[22:24:50] <rob0> and yes, you use a check_recipient_access restriction
[22:24:54] <rob0> !access
[22:25:52] <ukleinek> what does check_recipient_access do if the pattern is not included?
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[23:09:48] <jimpop> is there anyway to may !virtual case-sensitive?
[23:12:13] <jimpop> ahh, regex or pcre
[23:12:17] <jimpop> tym
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