December 24, 2017 
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December 24, 2017 [00:01:29] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c74:af6a:ef72:f0b1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:23:33] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:24:06] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has joined #postfix[00:30:09] *** phunysanta <phunysanta!~vault@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye cruel world!)[00:33:02] *** SupaYoshi <SupaYoshi!~SupaYoshi@104.129.10.95> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:35:13] *** SupaYoshi <SupaYoshi!~SupaYoshi@104.129.10.95> has joined #postfix[00:41:05] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[01:01:05] *** Vonor_ <Vonor_!~micha@unaffiliated/vonor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:04:23] *** Vonor_ <Vonor_!~micha@unaffiliated/vonor> has joined #postfix[01:12:40] *** quan <quan!~quassel@50.35.109.212> has joined #postfix[01:13:54] *** quan <quan!~quassel@50.35.109.212> has left #postfix[01:18:09] *** infernix <infernix!nix@unaffiliated/infernix> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:20:49] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~vault@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has joined #postfix[01:48:35] *** Vonor_ <Vonor_!~micha@unaffiliated/vonor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:48:59] *** infernix <infernix!nix@unaffiliated/infernix> has joined #postfix[01:49:08] *** Vonor_ <Vonor_!~micha@unaffiliated/vonor> has joined #postfix[01:56:19] *** kota <kota!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:311d:ebb8:963a:616d> has joined #postfix[02:25:48] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[02:41:58] <lunaphyte> nbari: no, and "backup" mx servers just shouldn't be used, period[02:42:09] <lunaphyte> it's not 1995[02:44:37] *** kota__ <kota__!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:cd16:c96d:e6fe:b11f> has joined #postfix[02:47:10] *** kota <kota!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:311d:ebb8:963a:616d> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[02:48:49] <thumbs> nbari: you *can* configure a hot-standby server, configured identically to the other.[02:55:21] *** kota__ <kota__!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:cd16:c96d:e6fe:b11f> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[03:01:27] *** Vonor_ <Vonor_!~micha@unaffiliated/vonor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:12:52] *** Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde[03:28:03] *** beco <beco!~beco@unaffiliated/beco> has joined #postfix[03:38:37] <nbari> lunaphyte: then what to use ?[03:39:12] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:40:25] <nbari> if a "backup" mx should not be used what to use then to avoid lossing emails ?[03:42:40] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p54A24A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:45:07] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p54A24866.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[03:48:10] <thumbs> nbari: other MTAs will retry if your server isn't available[03:49:09] <thumbs> nbari: if your server isn't online within a few hours of the first incident, you have big problems[03:49:45] <nbari> true how to deal when need to move/do some maintainace ?[03:50:23] <nbari> or what is now the the purpose of the mx2,mx3 etc?[03:50:31] <thumbs> nbari: lower the TTL ahead of time, and bring up the standby server.[03:50:58] <thumbs> nbari: then change the DNS records at the correct time.[03:51:29] <nbari> in my case ony one server is attached to a storage where the maildirs live[03:51:52] <thumbs> nbari: make that available to the other servers, or replicate it.[03:51:58] <nbari> nfs ?[03:52:40] <nbari> or something like s3 ?[04:01:04] <nbari> I mean sorry if this is to basic, but you mean to have N live servers all sharing the users maildirs ?[04:04:16] <thumbs> nbari: no. One live server at a time. Put your maildirs on either a shared storage, or replicate changes to other instances.[04:07:01] <rob0> mail storage has nothing to do with MX mail reception[04:08:50] <nbari> agree, my point of askign regarding the backup mx is to temporally queue mails while the main servers comes up[04:09:05] <nbari> but if "backup mx" is not the way to go, then wondering how to deal with it[04:09:18] <thumbs> nbari: let other MTAs try later.[04:10:43] <rob0> Generally the problem solved by a lower-priority MX (what you're calling "mx2,mx3") should not be a problem these days, with permanently connected hosts.[04:11:16] <rob0> it's a relic of days when that wasn't always the case[04:11:50] <nbari> ok[04:12:21] <rob0> if you DO have that problem, you need a permanently-connected MX host (a VPS could be a cheap way of doing that), and use relay_domains to receive the mail on the intermittent host.[04:47:27] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:47:32] *** Reinhilde is now known as Ellenor[04:47:48] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:57:27] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216.75.116.100> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:21:59] <lunaphyte> having multiple mxes is fine, and quite common.[05:22:18] <lunaphyte> that is NOT the same thing as a backup mx, and should not be confused as such[05:33:21] *** beco <beco!~beco@unaffiliated/beco> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:57:27] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-smyjdonxgaesfyko> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:57:54] *** fishcooker <fishcooker!~chika.tam@139.195.129.119> has joined #postfix[06:00:12] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-asndbqinxeuvbrdf> has joined #postfix[06:06:50] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Quit: We here br0.... xD)[06:15:43] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[06:35:56] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[06:56:10] *** mauro25987 <mauro25987!~mgonzalez@179.26.86.49> has joined #postfix[06:56:18] <mauro25987> hi[07:02:06] <mauro25987> how install policyd with postfix?[07:07:27] <rob0> !check_policy_service[07:07:27] <knoba> rob0: Error: "check_policy_service" is not a valid command.[07:07:33] <rob0> !policy[07:07:34] <knoba> rob0: "policy" : Postfix smtpd(8) policy protocol, http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html , for complex and intelligent restrictions[07:07:44] *** mauro259871 <mauro259871!~mgonzalez@179.26.20.92> has joined #postfix[07:08:11] <rob0> see postconf.5.html#check_policy_service for the restriction to use with policyd[07:09:14] <rob0> !policyd[07:09:15] <knoba> rob0: "policyd" : http://www.policyd.org/ : an anti-spam Postfix policy daemon which can manage throttling of email and a variety of other things not handled by Postfix directly. Look for \"cluebringer\" in your OS package system.[07:10:09] *** mauro25987 <mauro25987!~mgonzalez@179.26.86.49> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:10:29] *** mauro259871 <mauro259871!~mgonzalez@179.26.20.92> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:12:46] *** mauro25987 <mauro25987!~mgonzalez@179.26.20.92> has joined #postfix[07:13:00] <mauro25987> hi[07:13:48] <mauro25987> I want to limit mail environments by account and by domain, using policies.[07:14:25] <rob0> did you see the links I gave you?[07:17:44] <mauro25987> where?[07:17:50] <korozion> *sigh*[07:17:50] *** tboston <tboston!~tboston@mx1.bsd.services> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:18:04] * thumbs blinks[07:18:18] <mauro25987> no, I got forgiven[07:18:19] <rob0> no worries, here they are again[07:18:25] <rob0> !policyd[07:18:25] <knoba> rob0: "policyd" : http://www.policyd.org/ : an anti-spam Postfix policy daemon which can manage throttling of email and a variety of other things not handled by Postfix directly. Look for \"cluebringer\" in your OS package system.[07:18:27] <rob0> !policy[07:18:27] <knoba> rob0: "policy" : Postfix smtpd(8) policy protocol, http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html , for complex and intelligent restrictions[07:18:37] <thumbs> you got .... forgiven?[07:18:49] <rob0> yes, I forgive easily[07:18:57] <korozion> aww[07:18:59] <mauro25987> yes, thanks[07:18:59] * thumbs suspects a language barrier[07:19:07] <korozion> it's the Christmas spirit[07:19:10] <korozion> or the vodka[07:19:22] <rob0> Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping it will kill your enemy[07:19:23] <mauro25987> haha my language is spanish[07:19:45] <korozion> rob0: that's probably the most intelligent thing I've ever read on IRC[07:22:37] *** tboston <tboston!~tboston@mx1.bsd.services> has joined #postfix[07:24:48] <mauro25987> mmm[07:25:44] <mauro25987> I do not know, you need for example limit 150 emails per account, 1000 per domain.[07:26:21] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:27:08] <thumbs> all right.[07:28:59] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[07:30:23] <thumbs> mauro25987: what's with the random PMs?[07:30:51] <mauro25987> nothing[07:31:40] <mauro25987> thumbs: I really want to know if only with postfix I can do what I need.[07:32:04] <mauro25987> I am a beginner in the subject[07:32:13] <korozion> mauro25987: if the links given aren't enough, I'm pretty sure you can find what you're after with a quick Google search, including examples[07:32:54] <thumbs> mauro25987: I certainly won't support you in PM.[07:33:03] <mauro25987> ok, thanks[07:37:55] <thumbs> your answer sounded like "Sorry, I won't read the docs or links, and instead I'll just ask again here in the hopes that someone can just spoon-feed it to me"[07:38:23] <thumbs> "or I'll PM a few random folks from this channel, and maybe they'll spoon-feed me in private"[07:38:56] <thumbs> this is how you get folks to ignore you, for the record.[07:39:36] <mauro25987> sorry my friends[07:39:51] <mauro25987> i search documentation with postifx with policd[07:40:07] <mauro25987> my english is bad[07:40:31] <mauro25987> I have a hard time understanding the documentation[07:40:36] <thumbs> if parts of the documentation is unclear, be specific. Tell us what part is confusion.[07:40:42] <thumbs> *confusing[07:40:52] <mauro25987> but I like to learn[07:41:51] <mauro25987> mmm first I would like to know what precise, if with postfix only reaches.[07:43:02] <thumbs> mauro25987: what does that mean?[07:43:37] <mauro25987> they asked me to put something together for outgoing mails, limit the quota by account and by domain.[07:45:08] <thumbs> !tell mauro25987 policyd[07:45:08] <knoba> mauro25987: "policyd" : http://www.policyd.org/ : an anti-spam Postfix policy daemon which can manage throttling of email and a variety of other things not handled by Postfix directly. Look for \"cluebringer\" in your OS package system.[07:45:15] <thumbs> !tell mauro25987 policy[07:45:15] <knoba> mauro25987: "policy" : Postfix smtpd(8) policy protocol, http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html , for complex and intelligent restrictions[07:47:30] <mauro25987> ok very thanks[07:47:52] *** r3pek <r3pek!~r3pek@unaffiliated/r3pek> has quit IRC (Quit: Not here anymore)[07:47:59] <thumbs> maybe if we give it to him three times, he'll bother reading.[07:49:02] <mauro25987> https://wiki.policyd.org/quotas I think this is what I need[07:49:38] <mauro25987> haha yes i open the links[08:04:16] *** lorbus <lorbus!~lorbus@ip1f1254f6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[08:14:29] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[08:16:52] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has joined #postfix[08:40:07] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC ()[09:19:12] *** Columbo0815 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<fishcooker!~chika.tam@139.195.129.119> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:37:54] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[11:42:42] *** ychaouche <ychaouche!~ychaouche@197.201.1.50> has joined #postfix[11:42:46] <ychaouche> Hello #postfix[11:43:27] <ychaouche> Is it possible to have a mailbox both as a source and as a destination of an alias ?[11:43:48] <ychaouche> like this : kid at domain dot tld kid at domain dot tld, mom at domain dot tld[11:44:28] <ychaouche> as to simulate a bcc on the recipient kid at domain dot tld (where the copy would go to mom at domain dot tld)[11:45:07] *** jucaroba <jucaroba!~quassel@static-153-155-225-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:46:30] *** jucaroba <jucaroba!~quassel@static-153-155-225-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has joined #postfix[11:49:01] <ychaouche> I just tested it it seems to work.[11:51:57] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping 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Hello firends! Happy Xmas![14:30:46] <markmedes2> !getting_help[14:30:47] <knoba> markmedes2: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[14:34:17] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:34:59] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has joined #postfix[14:35:28] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[14:40:34] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:41:03] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[14:44:10] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:01:11] *** bauruine <bauruine!~bauruine@2a01:4f8:130:8285:fefe::36> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[15:02:51] *** TheFatherMind- <TheFatherMind-!~TheFather@cpe-104-34-204-52.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:03:43] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-104-34-204-52.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:05:27] *** bauruine <bauruine!~bauruine@2a01:4f8:130:8285:fefe::36> has joined #postfix[15:36:21] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:36:41] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[15:55:55] <dvl> I think I'm beginning to realize some of my mail servers should have one cert for smtp and another for smptd. These servers receive incoming mail then relay it to where it should go. For receiving, they can present a Let's Encrypt cert (for example). For relaying, I think i want to present a cert from a private CA, then allow relay based upon cert fingerprint. Why a private CA there? I can create certs for 10 years and not have to worry about[15:55:55] <dvl> keeping fingerprints up to date.[15:57:37] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:03:45] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@208-70-47-114.bb.hrtc.net> has joined #postfix[16:12:14] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[16:13:56] *** ychaouche <ychaouche!~ychaouche@197.201.1.50> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:25:25] *** impy <impy!~textual@ptr-g1zxlv2lehzxp1t2kra.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:29:23] <patdk-lap> I don't understand what one has to do with the other[16:30:41] <patdk-lap> I personally would just use a public trusted cert for both port 25 and 587[16:30:53] <patdk-lap> then have postfix verify client certs against my own ca[16:31:05] <patdk-lap> dunno why you would change your submission cert just to verify a client[16:32:47] *** tharkun <tharkun!~tharkun@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:32:47] *** tharkun <tharkun!~tharkun@unaffiliated/tharkun> has joined #postfix[16:35:12] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:35:37] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[16:36:24] <tharkun> For the sake of OT Merry Christmas to everyone I hope you get to enjoy the companionship of your loved ones. Let next year be full of challenges that we are all able to surpass.[16:36:44] <patdk-lap> I am, that is why I'm here[16:36:51] <patdk-lap> all the loved ones be here :)[17:03:34] <markmedes2> Why I can't change postfix default port for smtp? I did this https://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7000872 but it won't work[17:04:10] <patdk-lap> how should we know[17:04:17] <patdk-lap> !tell markmedes2 getting_help[17:04:17] <knoba> markmedes2: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[17:04:36] <patdk-lap> but what you posted is not for smtp, but for smtpd[17:04:43] <patdk-lap> !tell markmedes2 smtp!=smtpd[17:04:44] <knoba> markmedes2: "smtp!=smtpd" : Postfix smtp_* and smtpd_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtp_ = client and smtpd_ = server, the client-side sends mail whilst the server-side receives mail. (smtp = client = sends mail) (smtpd = server = receives mail)[17:05:04] <markmedes2> ah ok, thank you[17:12:38] *** fishcooker <fishcooker!~chika.tam@139.195.129.119> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:31:06] *** r3pek <r3pek!~r3pek@unaffiliated/r3pek> has joined #postfix[17:49:45] *** sebastienthiry <sebastienthiry!~Thunderbi@109.130.178.119> has quit IRC (Quit: sebastienthiry)[18:01:14] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[18:17:17] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[18:35:48] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[18:40:05] <dvl> patdk-lap: Do I follow you correctly here? Your own CA verifies the clients? Which means the smtp certs for postfix are issued by your own CA? Is that what you are getting at?[18:41:40] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[18:48:06] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[19:05:56] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[19:08:34] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[19:13:02] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@99.133.184.129> has joined #postfix[19:32:05] *** beco <beco!~beco@unaffiliated/beco> has joined #postfix[20:02:56] *** markmedes2 <markmedes2!~m@200.102.110.172> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:03:54] <dvl> The issue in question is: Dec 24 14:31:44 mx-ingress01 postfix/smtp[65769]: CA certificate verification failed for cliff.example.org[10.34.8.5]:5587: num=2:unable to get issuer certificate ... which I'll try to track down later. It might be CN in cert related.[20:07:40] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:09:36] <rob0> I use a private CA for 25, which cert is referenced in TLSA (DANE) records. For 587 we use LE. Different cert per port. Users are happy with LE, but my TLSA records don't have to change every whatever interval.[20:14:16] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:15:17] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:17:57] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:22:07] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[20:23:20] *** chachasmooth_ <chachasmooth_!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[20:23:44] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[20:47:06] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@46.173.197.56> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[21:03:11] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[21:07:07] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[21:07:55] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:08:31] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[21:15:51] *** mauro25987 <mauro25987!~mgonzalez@179.26.25.81> has joined #postfix[21:40:06] *** mauro25987 <mauro25987!~mgonzalez@179.26.25.81> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:40:46] *** mauro25987 <mauro25987!~mgonzalez@179.26.25.81> has joined #postfix[21:42:16] *** TimWolla <TimWolla!~timwolla@2a01:4f8:150:6153:beef::6667> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[21:42:17] *** max-m <max-m!~max-m@2a01:4f8:150:6153:beef::6667> has quit IRC (Quit: Schwuppdaddeldu)[21:45:09] *** max-m <max-m!~max-m@2a01:4f8:150:6153:beef::6667> has joined #postfix[21:45:42] *** TimWolla <TimWolla!~timwolla@chrono.xqk7.com> has joined #postfix[21:45:45] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[21:49:58] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[21:55:17] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[21:55:36] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:00:21] *** wk-work <wk-work!~quassel@office-osl3-tech-nat.osl.basefarm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:00:31] *** Death_rattle__ <Death_rattle__!~death@200116b820daf50035be191b75edd6a0.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #postfix[22:04:35] *** beco <beco!~beco@unaffiliated/beco> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:12:53] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[22:28:53] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[22:35:41] *** bravvve22 <bravvve22!~user@5-196-189-80.cinfuserver.com> has joined #postfix[22:42:05] *** beco <beco!~beco@unaffiliated/beco> has joined #postfix[22:43:25] <mauro25987> o[22:43:34] *** beco <beco!~beco@unaffiliated/beco> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[22:44:21] *** beco <beco!~beco@unaffiliated/beco> has joined #postfix[22:44:42] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[22:46:41] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:51:47] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[22:59:26] *** Death_rattle__ <Death_rattle__!~death@200116b820daf50035be191b75edd6a0.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[23:00:18] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[23:22:23] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:26:55] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[23:27:51] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:28:25] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@122.108.68.124> has joined #postfix[23:30:53] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[23:43:43] *** bravvve22 <bravvve22!~user@5-196-189-80.cinfuserver.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:50:12] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:54:13] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@70.121.157.202> has joined #postfix