December 22, 2017 
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Bye.)[10:50:37] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-245-152.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[10:50:55] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93> has joined #postfix[10:58:16] *** Thom1 <Thom1!~thomas@2a01:e35:2eae:8f90::2> has joined #postfix[10:58:34] <Thom1> !getting_help[10:58:34] <knoba> Thom1: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[10:58:41] <Thom1> hi everybody[11:00:37] <Thom1> I need to test SMTPUTF8 on my postfix server, so I'd like to send mail using mailx command which require SMTPUTF8 support, but I don't find what parameter I should pass to mailx. Do you know how to do that please ?[11:00:49] * Thom1 hope his english is not too bad[11:03:20] *** zmitya <zmitya!~mzachar@80.98.136.226> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:10:48] *** impy <impy!~textual@78-23-217-191.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[11:13:43] *** kota <kota!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:1110:720f:1646:33ae> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[11:17:01] *** Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde[11:23:10] *** fred_tv <fred_tv!~fred_tv@host242-32-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:23:45] <survietamine> !mail[11:23:46] <knoba> survietamine: "mail" : mail(1) (also known as mailx(1) or bsd-mailx) is not a Postfix-provided command. For help with it, see its man page. More powerful, commonly available console- and CLI-based MUAs include mutt, alpine and heirloom mailx (likewise, not supported here.)[11:24:14] <survietamine> imho, you should first know which is your mail program[11:24:35] <survietamine> http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/mailx_history.html[11:32:04] <Thom1> yes it's heirloom-mailx[11:47:07] *** stenrose <stenrose!~stenrose@martin.ilait.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:47:34] *** stenrose <stenrose!~stenrose@martin.ilait.se> has joined #postfix[11:56:48] *** mage__ <mage__!~julien@orval.bbpf.belspo.be> has left #postfix[12:15:23] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[12:15:46] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@208-70-47-114.bb.hrtc.net> has joined #postfix[12:33:35] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[12:33:59] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:34:17] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has joined #postfix[12:40:39] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@23.236.48.169> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:41:09] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@169.48.236.23.bc.googleusercontent.com> has joined #postfix[12:49:35] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@85.97.122.232> has joined #postfix[12:49:35] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@85.97.122.232> has quit IRC (Changing host)[12:49:35] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has joined #postfix[13:00:54] *** bweston92 <bweston92!uid187776@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lswjkknvrengalms> has joined #postfix[13:12:55] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host172-27-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[13:28:19] *** kota <kota!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:d8c7:1efc:48a5:561c> has joined #postfix[13:29:22] *** kota <kota!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:d8c7:1efc:48a5:561c> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:32:03] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[13:54:14] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:9855:bbd4:111b:b856> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)[14:03:20] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has quit IRC (Quit: cgt)[14:08:03] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has joined #postfix[14:30:23] *** golodhrim|work <golodhrim|work!~golodhrim@funtoo/core/golodhrim> has joined #postfix[14:31:55] <golodhrim|work> hi guys, I got a problem, perhaps somebody can give me an advice on how to fix it: I want to deliver mails via lmtp to a second host with amavisd running, the problem now is, that lmtp uses the basis ip of an interface, is there a way to define another interface ip for lmtp[14:35:49] <lunaphyte> "lmtp uses the basis ip of an interface" does not make sense[14:42:59] *** fred_tv <fred_tv!~fred_tv@host242-32-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[15:00:08] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:fdfd:1a10:84d7:875a> has joined #postfix[15:15:15] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[15:17:29] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[15:28:10] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[15:28:56] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has joined #postfix[15:29:01] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:30:54] <rob0> !lmtp_bind_address[15:30:55] <knoba> rob0: Error: "lmtp_bind_address" is not a valid command.[15:31:01] <rob0> !smtp_bind_address[15:31:01] <knoba> rob0: "smtp_bind_address" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: An optional numerical network address that the SMTP client should bind to when making a connection.[15:31:20] <rob0> lmtp_bind_address is the same as that ^^[15:31:44] <tuxick> doesn't that kinda suggest you have some weird routing going on?[15:32:05] <rob0> lmtp_bind_address is of course bound by the system route table. If the system needs ^^ weird routing, this can't override it.[15:34:29] <rob0> From your description, I doubt lmtp_bind_address will work, or is what you need. If the transport/content filter defines amavisd on an address which would use, for example, an internal (RFC 1918) address, that would be all you need.[15:37:39] *** sebastienthiry <sebastienthiry!~Thunderbi@109.130.178.119> has joined #postfix[15:38:17] *** sebastienthiry <sebastienthiry!~Thunderbi@109.130.178.119> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:39:49] *** fishcooker <fishcooker!~chika.tam@202.148.7.34> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:40:46] *** synthroi_ <synthroi_!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[15:43:45] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:48:25] *** Dolanyeah112 <Dolanyeah112!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[15:53:22] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@208-70-47-114.bb.hrtc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[15:57:14] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has joined #postfix[15:58:53] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:04:41] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has joined #postfix[16:04:56] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:06:54] *** infernix <infernix!nix@unaffiliated/infernix> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:09:06] *** pijiu <pijiu!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:09:12] <golodhrim|work> thanks rob0 will try that[16:10:17] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:11:23] <jduggan> is anyone using a solution for relaying domains on a specific multitenant provider via a specific relayhost ? Ie, you dont know the recipient domain but you want to deliver it via a relayhost if that domain sits on o365 for example. check_recipient_mx_access perhaps with a list of configured MX pools ?[16:12:10] <lunaphyte> !poll[16:12:10] <knoba> lunaphyte: "poll" : (#1) please do not ask if anyone uses some program or postfix feature. Instead ask your real question., or (#2) Also see !ask[16:12:35] *** golodhrim|work <golodhrim|work!~golodhrim@funtoo/core/golodhrim> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)[16:12:37] <rob0> you don't know the domain?[16:12:42] <jduggan> rob0: correct[16:12:48] <rob0> ouch[16:12:55] <jduggan> yea[16:12:56] <jduggan> but[16:13:02] <jduggan> consider the following example[16:13:08] <lunaphyte> well, you can't always know the domain beforehand[16:13:12] <lunaphyte> that would be impossible[16:13:44] <jduggan> you know you have deliverability problems on o365, for whatever reason that may be. You relay for many clients and you want to steer any recipient domain on o365 via a good relayhost[16:14:01] <rob0> Start earlier and tell us how this mail happened to come into your server's possession?[16:14:35] <jduggan> rob0: submission from client infrastructure[16:14:38] <rob0> I would recommend talking to Microsoft about your deliverability issues. If they don't think you're a spammer, they will help.[16:14:59] <rob0> They're really one of the better ones to deal with.[16:15:34] <rob0> I have known at least 5 such success stories in the past 6 months.[16:15:37] <jduggan> rob0: we're off the list now, but these things take time and customers get frustrated so id like to use the week off over xmas to build a lab and trial some solutions[16:15:54] <rob0> okay[16:16:53] <jduggan> given the rise in such multitenant platforms for business domains, the impact of having a negative reputation at just one MX pool is huge[16:17:23] <jduggan> yes teh cure is to not get on their s**t list... but email is not always that simple as we are all aware[16:17:38] <rob0> hmm, this won't be easy in the case of multi-recipient mail where the recipients are both Microsoft and non-MS.[16:18:04] <jduggan> yea[16:18:22] <jduggan> its a great one to sink your teeth into where postfix is concerned[16:19:57] <jduggan> im pretty certain it could be done with check_recipient_mx_access and a lookup table of MX servers. You would ofcourse have to knowledge of MX servers that handle email for the bigger players and pre-populate your tables[16:20:04] <jduggan> this assumes i have understood check_recipient_mx_access correctly[16:20:07] <jduggan> :)[16:20:45] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:20:48] <rob0> well, that works for SINGLE RCPT, yes[16:20:59] <jduggan> you can wildcard ofcourse, im fairly certain the o365 stuff all is within .outlook.com as an MX[16:22:01] <rob0> the part you're not quite getting is that the transport selection applies to the entire email[16:22:25] <rob0> regardless of MS or non-MS RCPT[16:22:33] <jduggan> i do get that[16:22:37] <rob0> otoh, maybe this won't matter?[16:22:46] <jduggan> that possibly wont matter[16:22:50] <rob0> if the relayhost can also get through to gmail et al?[16:22:56] <jduggan> yea[16:23:10] <jduggan> if i am on a bad list of both, then perhaps i have a bigger issue to overcome[16:23:14] <jduggan> :)[16:28:48] <lunaphyte> i'm not sure how transport selection can apply to the entire mail regardless of recipient[16:30:10] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has joined #postfix[16:31:39] <lunaphyte> if i have example.com :[foo.example.net] in transport_maps, and i send an email to user at example dot com and user at example dot org, then the message is split anyway, and one copy goes to example.org mx as per sop, and the other goes to foo.example.net[16:32:22] *** infernix <infernix!nix@unaffiliated/infernix> has joined #postfix[16:32:39] <rob0> well yes, but jduggan is talking about an access(5) FILTER action, not transport_maps[16:33:32] <rob0> a single Microsoft RCPT address would apply the FILTER result to all other RCPT as well[16:34:19] <rob0> (and this would not be an unusual thing, the way users' often use large lists of Cc: addresses)[16:34:52] <lunaphyte> at least in postconf(5), that behavior is a little bit undefined, imho[16:35:17] <lunaphyte> "Search the specified access(5) database for the MX hosts for the RCPT TO domain, and execute the corresponding action"[16:36:12] <lunaphyte> one could argue that the implication is that a result overrides a non-result, and that might be reasonable[16:36:12] <rob0> also look in access(5), where it is described under FILTER[16:38:27] <lunaphyte> what happens when more than one recipient returns a result?[16:38:38] <Kelsar> can i test for ptr record in postscreen? just if one is set?[16:39:21] <rob0> Kelsar, no[16:39:22] <lunaphyte> if it's based on the order processed, that means an end user could manipulate postfix's behavior externally by careful ordering of rcpt to commands[16:39:34] <rob0> lunaphyte, I think that is correct[16:39:55] <Kelsar> rob0: would be helpfull right now :([16:40:25] *** kota <kota!~textual@2001:470:fd99:4:7181:6ca6:790e:ad15> has joined #postfix[16:40:27] <lunaphyte> that would seem to me like a rather undesirable side effect[16:40:46] <rob0> postscreen does not look up PTR, but smtpd has reject_unknown_client_hostname[16:40:55] <jduggan> that is a very valid point, if in my example i have a recipient who is on microsoft and one on gmail and gmail gets processed last, i am going to be using my gmail relay when the problem is with my microsoft relay[16:41:04] <rob0> and reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname[16:41:40] <lunaphyte> jduggan: i think i'd ask on the ml at the point, if it were me[16:41:44] <lunaphyte> *this point[16:41:54] <rob0> jduggan, if the relayhost is ONLY invoked for MS addresses, and the relayhost is able to deliver to others as well, it should be fine[16:42:02] <Kelsar> rob0: i know, just get pestered by random v6 addresses without any ptr, so those could be dropped early[16:42:34] <rob0> Kelsar, I am in no hurry to move my email services into ipv6[16:43:05] <tuxick> move? just add :)[16:43:28] <tuxick> did that many moon ago[16:43:34] <jduggan> rob0: right i understand, so rather than leave everything configured for 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add clamav to my postfix.[20:04:57] <ebrasca> I have read this tho links:[20:05:02] <ebrasca> https://vorkbaard.nl/installing-a-mailserver-on-debian-8-part-6-spamfiltering-spamassassin/[20:05:10] <ebrasca> https://vorkbaard.nl/installing-a-mailserver-on-debian-8-part-7-antivirus-clamav/[20:06:31] <lunaphyte> ebrasca: something is already using port 10025[20:06:38] <lunaphyte> "Address already in use"[20:06:43] <lunaphyte> that's what that means, you know[20:07:20] <lunaphyte> ugh, that's a really yucky setup too :([20:07:48] <lunaphyte> spamassassin via pipe(8)? and now try to add clamav too?[20:07:55] <lunaphyte> what awful clueless tutorial suggested that?[20:07:59] <lunaphyte> instead, use amavis[20:08:08] <lunaphyte> relay from postfix to amavis using lmtp[20:08:43] <lunaphyte> if you're using dovecot, then relay from amavis to dovecot lda via lmtp[20:09:55] <ebrasca> internet -> postfix -lmtp-> amavis -lmtp-> dovecot[20:10:03] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: someting like this ^[20:10:37] <lunaphyte> yes[20:10:41] <ebrasca> and in amavis I add anti spam and anti virus?[20:10:50] <lunaphyte> yes[20:12:54] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: Do you have some good tutorial for amavis?[20:13:03] <lunaphyte> no[20:14:16] <ebrasca> And what do you mean with "yucky setup"?[20:15:00] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: ^[20:16:11] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:21:21] *** tuxick <tuxick!~bluesmurf@pie.xs4all.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:27:57] <rob0> yeah, even if using amavisd, I wouldn't recommend clamav ... I still remember how they did that crap with changing the format of the data people were getting via cron jobs[20:28:36] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[20:28:47] <lunaphyte> clamav hasn't really been an issue for me[20:28:52] <rob0> and besides, in my amavisd setups, the clamav rarely caught anything[20:29:11] <lunaphyte> it doesn't catch a lot, but it does catch stuff that amavis doesn't[20:29:43] <lunaphyte> for me, rarely isn't a good enough reason to not use it[20:29:47] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[20:29:47] <rob0> 419s, was all I ever saw it catch, and about one a month[20:29:59] <lunaphyte> yeah, same here about.[20:30:07] <rob0> I enjoy reading my 419s ;)[20:30:10] <lunaphyte> that was always worth it to me[20:30:45] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[20:35:48] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c74:af6a:ef72:f0b1> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:42:42] *** buki_ is now known as buki[20:42:48] <buki> for clamav you basically need the unofficial signatures[20:42:57] <ebrasca> Why learning postfix is more hard than programing?[20:43:35] <lunaphyte> !easy[20:43:35] <knoba> lunaphyte: "easy" : unfortunately, because there are some folks who invest the time and effort to understand things, it makes emailing very easy for lots of other people, which seems to foster the notion that it couldn't possibly be any more complex than clicking send. this, of course, is not the case. as with most things, you get what you put in. also see !maintain[20:43:50] <lunaphyte> also, it's important to not conflate learning postfix with learning email[20:43:53] <lunaphyte> they are two different things[20:45:29] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: for me opengl is more easy but with time I am learning how postfix and email server work.[20:46:32] <lunaphyte> confusing learning how a technology works with learning how to operate a piece of software which implements that technology is not a good thing[20:50:44] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@46.173.197.56> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[20:50:51] * ebrasca understand what math opengl uses.[20:51:08] * ebrasca likes maths.[20:54:36] <ebrasca> What do you think about postgrey?[20:57:35] <ebrasca> Does postgrey have some good point to kept it in my server?[21:00:30] <lunaphyte> no[21:03:49] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@70.70.100.95> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[21:04:43] *** impy <impy!~textual@ptr-g1zxlv4hw4ut6a94ulc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #postfix[21:05:44] *** godlike <godlike!~godlike@unaffiliated/godlike> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:06:33] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@70.70.100.95> has joined #postfix[21:09:20] *** godlike <godlike!~godlike@vicarious.com.ar> has joined #postfix[21:09:20] *** godlike <godlike!~godlike@vicarious.com.ar> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:09:20] *** godlike <godlike!~godlike@unaffiliated/godlike> has joined #postfix[21:13:34] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-245-152.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:19:15] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:35:57] <rob0> Greylisting itself is mostly outmoded. Botnets defeat it by going through their lists over and over. But postscreen (native part of Postfix) has a better greylisting-like feature.[21:36:54] * jaybe hugs postscreen[21:37:34] *** impy <impy!~textual@ptr-g1zxlv4hw4ut6a94ulc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[21:39:19] * ebrasca think have working amavis but don't know how to test it.[21:43:34] <lunaphyte> um, send an email?[21:44:34] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: How I can know amavis is working, I know my postfix and dovecot are working now.[21:44:46] <lunaphyte> looks at the logs[21:44:51] <lunaphyte> look at the headers[21:45:08] <lunaphyte> send yourself a mail containing eicar or gtube[21:47:47] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: I have amavisd-new because of "Note, selecting 'amavisd-new' instead of 'amavis'".[21:48:04] <lunaphyte> i don't know what that means[21:51:51] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: debain comand "apt-get install amavis" recoment amavisd-new instead of amavis.[21:53:41] <lunaphyte> i'm not sure what is meant by "recommends", but yes, amavisd-new is the name of the debian package[21:54:36] <thumbs> if you take everything everyone says literally and panic the moment it differs from the real world, you're in for a lot of surprises[21:57:15] <ebrasca> mmm I don't have /etc/amavisd.conf like in https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/IntegratedInPostfixWithAmavis .[21:57:44] <lunaphyte> ebrasca: for help with amavis, you'll want to consult with the community which supports it[21:57:52] <lunaphyte> this channel is for postfix[21:58:34] <jaybe> ebrasca, `cd /usr/share/doc/amavisd-new`[22:04:05] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:05:57] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:07:21] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has joined #postfix[22:11:26] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[22:16:47] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:20:22] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:21:50] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[22:26:19] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[22:34:13] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216.75.116.100> has joined #postfix[22:36:30] *** golden_receiver <golden_receiver!~golden_re@unaffiliated/golden-receiver/x-4949035> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:50:48] *** pelegreno <pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:52:52] *** pelegreno <pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220> has joined #postfix[22:54:08] *** synthroi_ <synthroi_!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[23:01:23] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host172-27-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[23:12:36] *** Reinhilde is now known as Ellenor[23:12:54] *** nbari <nbari!~nbari@unixmexico/nbari> has joined #postfix[23:13:20] <nbari> hi all, is there a way to bypass or continue acepting email if an check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:12525 is down ?[23:14:26] *** tuxick <tuxick!~bluesmurf@pie.xs4all.nl> has joined #postfix[23:19:40] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[23:25:52] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[23:38:42] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:45:31] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has joined #postfix[23:46:24] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[23:52:37] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix