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[08:40:58] <peb`> lunaphyte: what information do you think is missing for helping me out?
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[09:01:37] <jink> peb`: You show what happens, but you didn't share your config and relevant logs.
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[09:26:07] <peb`> mailman side, I have no logs at all
[09:26:17] <peb`> postfix side, I have no logs beside these two
[09:26:25] <peb`> but I can give the remaining logs of the transaction
[09:26:34] <peb`> and I certainly can postconf in a pastebin
[09:28:23] <jink> That might get you more help. Not be me - mind you - since I don't know that much. I'm just here to help to help and to learn.
[09:38:05] <peb`> here is the full transaction of one example of mailing list send: crans.org is the domain we administrate, so these mails are "internal": http://paste.debian.net/1001228/, here is the configuration of my main MX server: http://paste.debian.net/1001229/
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[09:38:29] <peb`> (which is the one from which the logs come from)
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[09:45:08] <survietamine> and what do you have in the relay users.adm.crans.org (10.231.136.1) logs?
[09:45:59] <survietamine> for that queue ID: B9DC5E007A
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[09:57:19] <peb`> survietamine: normal things: http://paste.debian.net/1001235/
[09:57:29] <peb`> i.e. everything goes as fast as expected
[10:01:55] <survietamine> I don't understand. You ask for help about some problem. But looks like you pasted « normal behaviour » from logs, instead of relevant logs (which should show the problem).
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[10:43:37] <peb`> You probably missed the time delay in my first paste
[10:44:01] <peb`> Between the two first lines
[10:45:21] <peb`> survietamine: ^
[10:48:30] <peb`> 45 seconds
[10:49:12] <peb`> For each mailman smtp transaction with postfix this delay is roughly n seconds with n the number of recipients
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[10:50:29] <survietamine> I don't have mailman, what's the glue between postfix and mailman?
[10:50:57] <survietamine> for sympa mlm, I have pipe between them, not really the best thing, but working not too bad
[10:51:44] <survietamine> from your paste, I cannot see how postfix give that mail to mailman
[10:52:49] <peb`> It's a specific transport to a python script
[10:53:04] <peb`> But these logs are when mailman gives back the mail to postfix for user's delivery
[10:53:29] <peb`> And it's that specific part which is slow
[10:54:59] <peb`> And my whole point is that I want to understand what takes one second per recipient to smtpd
[10:55:25] <peb`> So basically I'd like some help to get useful debug intej
[10:55:29] <peb`> intel
[11:14:03] <survietamine> from what I know, on postfix website, there is a section « Problem solving » with sub-sections like « bottleneck analysis » and « performance tuning ».
[11:14:22] <survietamine> Maybe that helps if it's a problem with postfix and not your python program
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[13:33:49] <peb`> !debug
[13:33:50] <knoba> peb`: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post information including NON-verbose logs in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/
[13:46:00] <peb`> problem found: it's a milter
[13:46:04] <peb`> I'll work on it
[13:46:09] <peb`> thanks for your suggestions, survietamine
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[14:45:44] <peb`> so, now I have the logs of one transaction for one user
[14:45:52] <peb`> for one recipient: http://paste.debian.net/1001287/
[14:46:04] <peb`> line 171, I see a warning line, and then postfix holds for 1 second
[14:46:20] <peb`> the thing is, the policy server doesn't say anything regarding a first connection attempt
[14:46:35] <peb`> and line 173+ show that postfix does succeed to connect to this policy server
[14:46:49] <peb`> how could I investigate the origin of this warning, line 171?
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[17:43:27] <ebrasca> Can I make postfix to save email as utf-8.
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[17:57:29] <lunaphyte> ebrasca: what lda are you using?
[17:57:34] <lunaphyte> !tell ebrasca utf8
[17:57:34] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[17:57:36] <lunaphyte> hmm
[17:57:45] <lunaphyte> well, read smtputf8_readme
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[18:37:33] <rob0> smtputf8 is only about utf8 in headers. Typically the body is MIME-encoded and Postfix has nothing to do with saving mail as utf8.
[18:37:53] <rob0> !xy
[18:37:53] <knoba> rob0: "xy" : (#1) The XY problem is that you want to do X, but don't know how. You think that you can solve X by doing Y, so you ask us how to do Y. We tell you that's an odd problem to want to solve. Just ask us about the real problem., or (#2) http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem -- I want to do X, but I'm asking how to do Y...
[18:38:13] <rob0> I think you have misdiagnosed your problem.
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[18:39:38] <jaybe> probably meant- s/save/store/
[18:40:11] <rob0> in either case, Postfix is not rewriting what it receives.
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[19:43:15] <jimpop> how do i disable anvil? I'm using it on a small local system, and it literally is the contents of 2/3 of the log file.
[19:44:08] <jimpop> er, the anvil stats are 2/3 of the contents in the log file.
[19:44:58] <jimpop> if i coment it out in master, the log file fills up with errors about connecting to anvil
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[19:46:17] <lunaphyte> i would just leave it
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[20:14:29] <jimpop> :-(
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[20:57:53] <macskay> hi guys i got a problem with my mailserver. it does work but when checking it with various tools on the web the sites end up telling me the hostname is mail.example.com.example.com instead of mail.example.com however when setting up thundermail with mail.example.com it works just fine
[20:57:59] <macskay> anybody know what that could be?
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[20:58:55] <rob0> look up the PTR for the IP address.
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[22:04:10] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: What do you mean with lda?
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[22:08:04] <lunaphyte> hmm?
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[22:19:11] <kmq> ebrasca https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_delivery_agent the program that stores an email into a users mailbox.
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[22:39:32] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: Probably it is dovecot.
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[22:40:37] <lunaphyte> probably?
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[22:43:19] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: Yea it my mda is dovecot lmtp.
[22:43:35] <lunaphyte> so then your question is a dovecot question
[22:45:06] <ebrasca> lunaphyte: Thanks you.
[22:45:54] <lunaphyte> sure thing
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