December 15, 2017 
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Here's a question I haven't really found the answer to. What exactly is the difference if in Mode S, SV, and V? I'm assuming I'd need S or SV to DKIM sign emails.[03:22:31] <samy1028b> What does V (verify) do at this stage?[03:25:50] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[03:28:03] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:30:31] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[03:31:53] *** L is now known as LoRez[03:38:48] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:43:47] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[03:49:38] *** mikecmpb_ <mikecmpb_!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[03:50:52] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[03:52:48] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p54A244C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 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ZZZzzz…)[10:13:57] *** Jellyg00se <Jellyg00se!~Alfie@195.99.134.162> has joined #postfix[10:15:52] <pj> !tell tafazzi87 welcome[10:15:52] <knoba> tafazzi87: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![10:19:26] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:20:08] *** wk-work <wk-work!~quassel@office-na37-tech-nat.osl.basefarm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:20:39] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has joined #postfix[10:30:58] *** Ownage <Ownage!~proprieta@111.206.168.98> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:31:17] *** Ownage <Ownage!~proprieta@111.206.168.98> has joined #postfix[10:37:46] *** impy <impy!~textual@ptr-g1zxlv2au7grcsl4tx4.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #postfix[10:46:19] *** pijiu <pijiu!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:06:08] *** wk-work <wk-work!~quassel@2a01:600:1:0:45c:fb88:c5f2:2906> has joined #postfix[11:11:59] *** Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde[11:26:58] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host134-59-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[11:33:57] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:35:42] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has joined #postfix[11:39:33] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@hq.m3team.it> has joined #postfix[11:58:53] *** Vonor <Vonor!~micha@unaffiliated/vonor> has joined #postfix[12:01:25] <Vonor> hi. i know it's possible to have a virtual alias in the form " at domain dot tld catchall at domain dot tld" but is it also possible to have it like this "admin@ admin at company dot com"? the goal is to catch all mail sent to any of the admin@ addies for all domains defined in virtual_alias_domains[12:11:07] *** albech <albech!~Thunderbi@5.103.131.12> has joined #postfix[12:13:26] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host134-59-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:37:42] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:f8b1:336b:6ae:9889> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:38:25] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:74cf:cff6:3dd3:3442> has joined #postfix[12:39:35] *** pti-jean <pti-jean!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[12:46:03] *** bs_ <bs_!~bs@sahara.sigint.pw> has joined #postfix[12:46:03] *** bs is now known as Guest4498[12:46:03] *** Guest4498 <Guest4498!bs@sahara.sigint.pw> has quit IRC (Killed (tolkien.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[12:46:03] *** bs_ is now known as bs[12:52:28] *** hugoShaka <hugoShaka!~hugoShaka@51.15.10.95> has joined #postfix[13:10:00] <petn-randall> !catch-all[13:10:01] <knoba> petn-randall: Error: "catch-all" is not a valid command.[13:10:30] <petn-randall> Eh, I don't know how to query factoids from the bot.[13:10:47] <petn-randall> Vonor: You generally want to avoid catch-alls at any cost.[13:13:18] <Vonor> petn-randall, could you elaborate please?[13:27:37] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[13:30:38] <petn-randall> Vonor: You don't want catch-alls, because that attracts a metric ton of spam. The more sane approach is just to create those aliases you need.[13:30:51] <petn-randall> Vonor: You surely don't want to receive mail for admin at microsoft dot com?[13:33:17] <lunaphyte> using catchalls would be bad, yes[13:33:43] <petn-randall> I could swear the bot had a factoid for this.[13:34:19] <lunaphyte> but honestly, nothing in the question indicates there is any desire to to receive mail for admin at microsoft dot com, or other arbitrary domains[13:34:33] <lunaphyte> !tell petn-randall catchall[13:34:33] <knoba> petn-randall: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them.[13:35:09] <lunaphyte> Vonor: yes, it's possible, but it would require use of a dynamic map type, such as an ldap lookup, sql lookup, pcre, etc.[13:35:31] <lunaphyte> also, the word is "addresses". not "addies". that's just gross :([13:40:30] *** jucaroba <jucaroba!~quassel@static-153-155-225-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:41:46] *** jucaroba <jucaroba!~quassel@static-153-155-225-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has joined #postfix[13:46:04] <Vonor> alright. next issue is, before i set that postfix public i need to test it locally but have no access to our local dns server. can i fake an mx record via files (nsswitch) somehow?[13:46:53] *** section1 <section1!~section1@190.194.77.25> has joined #postfix[14:03:45] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.81> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:04:12] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:04:24] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has joined #postfix[14:04:24] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:06:28] *** xcrracer <xcrracer!~xcrracer@unaffiliated/xcrracer> has joined #postfix[14:07:31] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.81> has joined #postfix[14:23:51] *** Reinhilde <Reinhilde!ellenor@unaffiliated/ellenor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:27:31] *** Ellenor <Ellenor!ellenor@unaffiliated/ellenor> has joined #postfix[14:35:49] *** peterandre <peterandre!~peterandr@i.own.zer0logs.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Oooh mysterious girl!)[14:37:26] *** peterandre <peterandre!hiya@i.own.zer0logs.net> has joined #postfix[14:40:57] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has joined #postfix[14:43:25] *** peterandre <peterandre!hiya@i.own.zer0logs.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Oooh mysterious girl!)[14:44:46] *** peterandre <peterandre!hiya@i.own.zer0logs.net> has joined #postfix[14:45:54] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216.75.116.100> has joined #postfix[14:47:46] *** peterandre <peterandre!hiya@i.own.zer0logs.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:49:07] *** peterandre <peterandre!peterandre@i.own.zer0logs.net> has joined #postfix[14:56:44] *** masuberu <masuberu!~Masber@27-32-116-21.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #postfix[14:59:44] *** jay0322_ <jay0322_!~jay0322@173-166-197-60-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[15:00:41] <masuberu> good afternoon, I am trying to setup TLS on postfix, I have added the certificate and the key to the main.cf file https://bpaste.net/show/effc18972882 but my email are not encrypted, any thought?[15:09:20] <buki> first smtp!=smtpd, second encrypting emails is MUA's job, not MTA's[15:11:44] *** wk-work <wk-work!~quassel@2a01:600:1:0:45c:fb88:c5f2:2906> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[15:12:01] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-241-34.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[15:17:26] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[15:34:59] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:47:48] *** Dolanyeah112 <Dolanyeah112!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[15:53:30] <masuberu> buki, you mean that I need to setup the client to send encrypted emails?[15:53:43] <masuberu> so client is smtpd right?[15:54:09] <petn-randall> masuberu: Your client is thunderbird, or whatever you're using to send mail.[15:54:53] <rob0> we don't really know what you need, but it sounds like you have wrong expectations of what TLS does.[15:54:53] <masuberu> im sending emails through my java application and mail server is postfix[15:54:59] <rob0> !tls[15:54:59] <knoba> rob0: "tls" : Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). Previously known as SSL, TLS adds a layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, submission, IMAP or POP3 to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS is implemented using the STARTTLS method, while the non-standard wrapper style of implementation is deprecated at this point. See http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info.[15:56:22] <masuberu> my java application sends emails to users after submit a web form, at the moment users are getting a warning message because the emails are not encrypted so I would like to send encrypted emails[15:58:08] <petn-randall> masuberu: Where does this warning message come from?[15:58:39] <masuberu> when I test it I put my gmail account[15:59:00] <petn-randall> masuberu: Can you copy/paste the warning you get? I'm 99% sure it's not related to postfix.[15:59:22] <petn-randall> Use a paste site to share it.[15:59:23] <masuberu> I received the email into my junk folder and when I open it it show a red lock open and the message that "the server did not encrypt this message"[16:00:31] <rob0> !smtp_tls_security_level[16:00:31] <knoba> rob0: "smtp_tls_security_level" : The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[16:00:40] <rob0> smtp_tls_security_level=may[16:01:07] <rob0> that's the only thing you have to set to send using TLS[16:01:10] <masuberu> https://pasteboard.co/GYkVSEs.png[16:01:32] <rob0> to receive, you need a certificate and key also, and[16:01:40] <rob0> !smtpd_tls_security_level[16:01:41] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_tls_security_level" : the smtp tls security level for the postfix smtp server; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtpd_use_tls and smtpd_enforce_tls. this parameter is ignored with smtpd_tls_wrappermode = yes . this feature is available in postfix 2.3 and later[16:01:57] <rob0> smtpd_tls_security_level=may[16:02:29] <masuberu> I have a certificate and key (I am using the ones from my ssl website)[16:04:25] <masuberu> I just want to send[16:05:02] <rob0> yes, and?[16:05:52] <rob0> do you need me to repeat the answer I already gave?[16:06:32] <masuberu> no[16:08:28] <masuberu> !smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer[16:08:28] <knoba> masuberu: Error: "smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer" is not a valid command.[16:08:36] <masuberu> do I need smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer?[16:10:00] <petn-randall> masuberu: Have you already read the documentation of this parameter? http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer[16:11:43] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:74cf:cff6:3dd3:3442> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:12:28] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:405c:d94f:d699:6db3> has joined #postfix[16:24:08] <rob0> that wouldn't hurt, also:[16:24:16] <rob0> !smtp_tls_loglevel[16:24:18] <knoba> rob0: "smtp_tls_loglevel" : Enable additional Postfix smtp(8) client logging of TLS activity, default 0, 1 is a good operational setting. Each logging level also includes the information that is logged at all lower logging levels.[16:24:30] <rob0> !smtpd_tls_loglevel[16:24:30] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_tls_loglevel" : enable additional postfix smtp server logging of tls activity. each logging level also includes the information that is logged at a lower logging level.[16:24:38] <rob0> set both of those to 1[16:27:02] <masuberu> thank you[16:38:39] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:43:58] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.187.175> has joined #postfix[16:45:32] <masuberu> please let me if I got it right, MUA is the one encrypting the email so in my case the MUA is postfix client, as rob0 suggested I just need to add smtp_tls_security_level=may and enable the logs with smtpd_tls_loglevel=1 and smtp_tls_loglevel. Is that all?[16:46:19] <masuberu> my gmail client still says the email hasn't been encrypted and I can't find anything in the maillog file[16:53:01] <rob0> !mua[16:53:01] <knoba> rob0: "mua" : Mail User Agent: software used for mail message retrieval, commonly known as an email client, such as mutt, Evolution and Thunderbird[16:53:34] <rob0> there are numerous MxA TLAs in mail, it is useful to know these[16:53:50] <rob0> Postfix is MTA and optionally also MSA[16:53:59] <rob0> !mta[16:53:59] <knoba> rob0: "mta" : Mail Transfer Agent: software that facilitates the transfer of mail messages between hosts[16:54:03] <rob0> !msa[16:54:03] <knoba> rob0: "msa" : Message Submission Agent : a process which accepts message submissions from MUAs on port 587 known as 'message submission service' using the 'message submission protocol' defined by rfc4409. To enable message submission service in postfix uncomment the relevant lines in master.cf. also see !submission.[16:54:05] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[16:54:41] <masuberu> !tla[16:54:42] <knoba> masuberu: Error: "tla" is not a valid command.[16:54:48] <masuberu> !tlas[16:54:48] <knoba> masuberu: Error: "tlas" is not a valid command.[16:55:02] <rob0> MTAs have a client function (to send mail) and a server function (to receive mail)[16:55:16] <rob0> tla=Three Letter Acronym[16:55:22] *** sebastienthiry <sebastienthiry!~Thunderbi@109.130.187.39> has quit IRC (Quit: sebastienthiry)[16:55:53] <rob0> sorry, I thought that was a commonly-known term[16:57:11] <masuberu> np, I need to learn[16:59:25] <buki> but yeah, what google mail means by "not encrypted" is actually "not received over TLS", so no MUA involment[16:59:45] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:59:46] <rob0> right, I guess that was not explained[17:00:11] <buki> should be enough to set the smtp_tls_security_level=may, as rob0 suggested[17:00:48] <rob0> your mails will still not be encrypted, in terms of what the recipient gets, but they will probably use TLS enroute[17:03:55] <masuberu> the problem is that they go to the spam folder, I red that encrypting the emails may help to avoid some spam filter to flag the email as spam[17:04:07] <masuberu> *encrypted[17:04:16] <rob0> nope, probably not[17:04:25] <rob0> !fcrdns[17:04:25] <knoba> rob0: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[17:04:39] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.187.175> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:04:46] <rob0> ^^ that's the main thing, along with the reputation of your IP address and your provider[17:05:50] <rob0> beyond that, deliverability is a huge can of worms, and you generally can't influence it with any Postfix settings.[17:06:29] <masuberu> sorry I know reverse DNS may not be a topic of this channel. I create the PTR record, that should be enough for reverse dns?[17:07:33] <rob0> usually you would ask your provider to do that, unless you have had the reverse DNS delegated to your nameservers[17:09:32] <masuberu> I guess so, I followed AWS documentation to setup reverse dns using their service[17:10:01] <rob0> oh sure, you use AWS' web interface to set the PTR[17:10:13] <masuberu> yes[17:10:23] <rob0> I guess we're saying the same thing but making it sound opposite. :)[17:11:10] <masuberu> yes, just using using router 53 service[17:11:49] <thumbs> rob0: you're becoming opposable[17:12:24] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[17:13:19] <rob0> hah![17:15:01] <rob0> Well, I was up all night fighting a house fire (big fire in a little shack, it's destroyed), so I'm off to bed. Bye.[17:15:13] <masuberu> may I ask, when I received promotional emails like for instance from learn at codeacademy dot com in my mailbox, they don't have the "not encrypted" message, I guess the is because codeacademy is sending those emails using a MUA and not an MTA?[17:15:25] <rob0> no[17:15:40] <rob0> they are using a MTA which uses TLS in its client function[17:23:44] *** Jellyg00se <Jellyg00se!~Alfie@195.99.134.162> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:27:27] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has joined #postfix[17:30:24] <masuberu> ok, I can now receive emails on my inbox and not on spam folder, however it looks like now I need to setup SPF[17:30:32] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[17:31:41] *** izibi <izibi!~julian@towel.0x01.eu> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:31:41] *** izibi <izibi!~julian@unaffiliated/izibi> has joined #postfix[17:31:51] *** Death_rattle__ <Death_rattle__!~death@200116b820c6bc009dfddfdae7e8e56b.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #postfix[17:36:14] *** tafazzi87 <tafazzi87!~tafazzi87@185.96.217.2> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:36:25] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:36:59] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[17:36:59] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:36:59] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[17:46:06] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has joined #postfix[17:50:54] *** proprietarysucks <proprietarysucks!~proprieta@111.206.168.98> has joined #postfix[17:53:24] *** jay0322__ <jay0322__!~jay0322@173-166-197-60-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[17:53:26] *** jay0322_ <jay0322_!~jay0322@173-166-197-60-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:53:48] *** Ownage <Ownage!~proprieta@111.206.168.98> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:58:56] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host114-20-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[18:04:31] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:05:19] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host114-20-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:10:58] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@hq.m3team.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[18:16:15] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:17:00] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:17:00] *** visip <visip!~visix@gateway/tor-sasl/visip> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:18:00] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host21-95-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[18:20:55] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[18:21:43] *** izibi <izibi!~julian@unaffiliated/izibi> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[18:24:18] *** izibi <izibi!~julian@towel.0x01.eu> has joined #postfix[18:25:20] *** izibi <izibi!~julian@towel.0x01.eu> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:25:20] *** izibi <izibi!~julian@unaffiliated/izibi> has joined #postfix[18:25:24] *** visip <visip!~visix@gateway/tor-sasl/visip> has joined #postfix[18:27:43] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[18:32:34] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[18:32:41] *** jay0322__ <jay0322__!~jay0322@173-166-197-60-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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