December 13, 2017 
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<fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:37:52] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:38:41] *** chachasmooth_ <chachasmooth_!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:48:15] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[05:02:45] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[05:05:35] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:25:14] <linex> Is it possible to kick an account out that is curently logged in ?[05:26:35] <linex> I got a compromised account that is spamming out. Even thought I have changed the password , the account keep spamming out .[05:29:32] <lunaphyte> stop postfix and restart it[05:30:05] <lunaphyte> there is a restriction added fairly recently which allows for checking of this, per submission[05:30:16] <lunaphyte> i'll have to see if i can remember what it's called[05:31:59] <lunaphyte> check_sasl_access maybe?[05:33:31] <lunaphyte> yess, that was it[05:33:34] <lunaphyte> *yes[05:33:47] <lunaphyte> hah, fairly recently = 4 years ago :)[05:34:35] <linex> lunaphyte: thats .. will check check_sasl_access[05:34:57] <linex> lunaphyte: thanks[05:35:02] <lunaphyte> sure thing[06:01:56] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[06:05:25] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:05:41] *** ArchNoob <ArchNoob!~ArchNoob@unaffiliated/archnoob> has joined #postfix[06:14:26] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined 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now?[08:16:26] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[08:25:51] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:29:13] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@94.210.213.78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:30:09] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:31:05] *** internat <internat!biteme2@58.84.79.209> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:34:19] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[08:46:24] *** lunaphyte <lunaphyte!~lunaphyte@unaffiliated/lunaphyte> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[08:50:08] *** lunaphyte <lunaphyte!~lunaphyte@unaffiliated/lunaphyte> has joined #postfix[08:50:37] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[08:55:06] *** ArchNoob 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I know it isn't a postfix question per se, but I thought you here may not better what is a good tool for this.[12:23:22] <dystant> btw, I'm aware of postfix.admin, but I thought there may be other/better options out there[12:40:02] <dka> you could try roundcube[12:40:11] <dka> dystant[12:44:13] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@userh568.uk.uudial.com> has joined #postfix[12:47:18] <dystant> dka: but it's more for mailbox access, than account management[12:54:08] <aaap> dystant: iredmail[12:54:32] <aaap> or you use 'webmin' or virtualmin[12:57:05] <dystant> aaap: thanks, iredmail looks nice[13:04:10] <survietamine> imho, all that panels are bad quality[13:04:32] <survietamine> and posty looks like abandonated[13:07:22] *** section1 <section1!~section1@190.194.68.34> has joined #postfix[13:17:31] *** kkj <kkj!~kkj@irc.nixlab.io> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[13:17:39] *** kkj <kkj!~kkj@irc.nixlab.io> has joined #postfix[13:19:38] <dystant> survietamine: true, most look dated, but then again making a custom solution is equally time consuming, as it then needs maintenance.[13:19:56] <dystant> I use phpmyadmin, but I still have to do a lot of manual steps, it's very nice.[13:20:02] <dystant> it's NOT very nice[13:25:12] <tuxick> a lot of steps?[13:25:25] <tuxick> creating an account is a 3 line bash script[13:27:53] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[13:29:30] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@host88-241-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[13:31:32] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[13:39:49] <aaap> anyone using postscreen ? is it for spam filtering purpose ?[13:43:13] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[13:44:35] <survietamine> sure[13:44:37] <survietamine> !postscreen[13:44:37] <knoba> survietamine: "postscreen" : SMTP triage server available since Postfix 2.8, see http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html and http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html[13:46:13] <aaap> SMTP triage server ?[13:46:37] <survietamine> it is explained in the README[13:46:43] <aaap> ok[13:47:34] <aaap> survietamine: look like postfix on "multi thread" style[13:47:38] <aaap> do you think so?[13:49:34] <survietamine> I don't think so[13:51:48] <aaap> survietamine: i have read up more of it. you shift all the anti=spam rules to postscreen and let it do the job[13:52:05] <aaap> and main postfix can focus on doing the day to day email stuffs[13:54:02] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@92.55.116.178> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:54:20] <survietamine> not really[13:54:36] <survietamine> the readme says: postscreen(8) is part of a multi-layer defense.[13:54:53] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@host88-241-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[13:55:03] <survietamine> postscreen is first layer, its goal is to determine quickly bad clients.[13:55:18] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[13:55:24] <survietamine> but, you can add more layers like with amavis+spamassassin+clamav[14:00:04] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has joined #postfix[14:00:29] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@92.55.116.178> has joined #postfix[14:01:18] *** nutron|wirk <nutron|wirk!~nutron@207.194.129.185> has joined #postfix[14:04:35] *** nutron|w <nutron|w!~nutron@64.114.250.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:23:56] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[14:32:45] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:34:11] <aaap> survietamine, ok[14:45:03] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@75.188.11.166> has joined #postfix[14:48:41] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[14:52:18] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Quit: We here br0.... xD)[14:57:12] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[15:04:47] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[15:07:57] *** shaytan <shaytan!~shaytan@31-208-8-193.cust.bredband2.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:12:03] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[15:12:41] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:20:07] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:21:25] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[15:23:45] *** Dolanyeah110 <Dolanyeah110!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - 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If postscreen is going to talk to a client, the answer is already "no".[17:26:27] <jaybe> heh[17:26:30] <Kelsar> rob0: well, yeah, it just opens the socket, does some magic and thengives the socket to postfix. as far as i understood it[17:27:17] *** dystant <dystant!~dystant@46.251.104.243> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[17:30:13] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has joined #postfix[17:31:31] *** johney_ <johney_!29e203d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.226.3.214> has joined #postfix[17:31:45] *** nzoueidi <nzoueidi!~nzoueidi@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #postfix[17:32:28] <nzoueidi> Hello folks, I am having an issue with Postfix, I have a delay with 1hour when I send a mail. Any thoughts?[17:32:42] <nzoueidi> This is what I got: delay=3826, delays=0.02/3826/0/0.1[17:32:54] <lunaphyte> wag? content filter[17:33:01] <patdk-lap> !tell nzoueidi getting_help[17:33:01] <knoba> nzoueidi: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[17:34:02] <nzoueidi> patdk-lap: I don't have any revleant entries in the log, but I have this delay=3826, delays=0.02/3826/0/0.1[17:34:19] <patdk-lap> I don't remember asking if you thought they where relevant[17:34:24] <patdk-lap> they ARE relevant[17:34:51] *** johney_ <johney_!29e203d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.226.3.214> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:35:05] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:37:01] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[17:37:01] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:37:01] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[17:37:25] <patdk-lap> delay=3826, delays=0.02/3826/0/0.1 is relevent[17:37:28] <patdk-lap> that is a log entry[17:37:33] <patdk-lap> that is SOME of the log[17:37:47] <patdk-lap> so follow directions, post the requested info, or no one will be able to help solve your problem[17:38:01] <patdk-lap> !tell nzoueidi wag[17:38:01] <knoba> nzoueidi: "wag" : WAG: Wild-assed guess ... rarely, if ever, of much use in debugging problems. See !welcome and /topic and !debug.[17:38:24] <nzoueidi> Sure mate :) I am collecting the log, will post the link here[17:39:36] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:43:33] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@userh568.uk.uudial.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:44:10] <nzoueidi> https://pastebin.com/iXW0FsfJ[17:44:51] <thumbs> e/119[17:45:42] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has joined #postfix[17:46:08] <patdk-lap> is the time synced between those servers ?[17:46:47] <patdk-lap> also why did you send it to amavis twice?[17:48:08] <patdk-lap> took over an hour to scan an email that is 1984 bytes in size[17:48:47] <patdk-lap> !lunaphyte +1[17:48:47] <knoba> patdk-lap: Error: "lunaphyte" is not a valid command.[17:48:51] <nzoueidi> I don't know why it goes to amavis twice[17:49:02] <nzoueidi> but you think the issue is from a specific email?[17:49:16] <patdk-lap> oh, just once, just the way you dumped the logs you duplicated the log entries like nuts[17:49:29] <patdk-lap> I think it's specific to what you did to amavis[17:49:47] <patdk-lap> or to a program amavis is configured to use, spamassassin/dspam/clamav/......[17:50:00] *** Jellyg00se <Jellyg00se!~Alfie@195.99.134.162> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:50:12] <patdk-lap> or you have amavis configured with too many threads, and don't have enough cpu to back them[17:50:25] <nzoueidi> Alright will check that[17:52:12] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[18:22:49] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[18:25:51] *** troys is now known as troys_[18:29:41] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has joined #postfix[18:31:03] <rob0> Kelsar, we don't really need pedantry here (and if we do, we have lunaphyte for that ;) ), but I can sum this up by pointing out our differing uses of the term, "Postfix". I am referring to the entire suite, whereas you seem to be referring to the smtpd(8) component thereof.[18:31:25] <Kelsar> rob0: ^^[18:32:23] <Kelsar> honestly i soon got time to replace that dreadfull greylisting with postscreen on the company network[18:35:39] *** troys_ is now known as troys[19:12:31] *** albech <albech!~Thunderbi@5.103.131.12> has joined #postfix[19:14:27] *** nzoueidi <nzoueidi!~nzoueidi@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:16:12] *** visip <visip!~visix@gateway/tor-sasl/visip> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:16:44] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:17:38] <albech> Getting this error. Any ideas? warning: TLS library problem: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:ssl3_get_client_hello:no shared cipher:s3_srvr.c:1417:[19:20:15] *** visip <visip!~visix@gateway/tor-sasl/visip> has joined #postfix[19:22:13] <petn-randall> albech: The error already tells you: "no shared cipher".[19:23:37] <albech> petn-randall: i only get this error so far from one sender, which is government..[19:24:08] <petn-randall> albech: This usually happens if people apply TLS cipher strings from web servers to mail servers.[19:24:14] <petn-randall> s/if/when/[19:24:31] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@5ED2D2B8.cm-7-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[19:24:51] <albech> petn-randall: im using a letsencrypt cert for the mailserver[19:25:20] <petn-randall> albech: And default TLS settings?[19:25:45] <albech> in postfix?[19:25:59] <petn-randall> albech: Yes, I assume you're using postfix.[19:27:11] <petn-randall> !gettings_help[19:27:11] <knoba> petn-randall: Error: "gettings_help" is not a valid command.[19:27:14] <petn-randall> !getting_help[19:27:15] <knoba> petn-randall: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[19:27:27] <petn-randall> albech: Also relevant ^^^[19:28:16] <albech> getting confs.. 2 min[19:29:16] *** albech <albech!~Thunderbi@5.103.131.12> has quit IRC (Quit: albech)[19:31:21] *** albech <albech!~Thunderbi@5.103.131.12> has joined #postfix[19:31:47] <albech> petn-randall: https://pastebin.com/RbYnnLwT[19:34:39] <albech> is it because of the !SSLv3 ??[19:36:22] <petn-randall> !relevant_logs[19:36:22] <knoba> petn-randall: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[19:36:27] <petn-randall> !showconfig[19:36:27] <knoba> petn-randall: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[19:36:32] <petn-randall> albech: ^^^[19:37:54] <albech> petn-randall: sorry, https://pastebin.com/3XNdNsET[19:39:19] <rob0> which one of the pastes has BOTH logs AND config?[19:40:14] <rob0> anyway, it seems likely that you disabled a cipher/protocol that the other host (client? server?) needs for STARTTLS[19:40:24] <rob0> why did you do that?[19:41:21] <albech> rob0: referring to: smtp_tls_protocols = !SSLv2, !SSLv3 ??[19:42:28] <rob0> !smtp!=smtpd[19:42:28] <knoba> rob0: "smtp!=smtpd" : Postfix smtp_* and smtpd_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtp_ = client and smtpd_ = server, the client-side sends mail whilst the server-side receives mail. (smtp = client = sends mail) (smtpd = server = receives mail)[19:43:11] <petn-randall> albech: I'll go out on a limp and say you blindly set smtpd_tls_ciphers = high without knowing what it does.[19:43:56] <albech> correct.. was part of the documentation i followed[19:44:20] <rob0> which was NOT:[19:44:23] <rob0> !tls[19:44:23] <knoba> rob0: "tls" : Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). Previously known as SSL, TLS adds a layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, submission, IMAP or POP3 to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS is implemented using the STARTTLS method, while the non-standard wrapper style of implementation is deprecated at this point. See http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info.[19:45:05] <rob0> I think official documentation recommends default settings of these, except in special circumstances.[19:46:01] <rob0> special==Not a full-service public-facing MTA/MSA.[19:47:06] <rob0> Gazillions of bloggers know a little about HTTP and TLS vulnerabilities, so they try to apply that little knowledge to SMTP. That's wrong, it does not apply here.[19:47:38] <petn-randall> albech: It's always a good idea to read the actual documentation at http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html for the setting, and also http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html.[19:47:56] <albech> reading it now[19:48:36] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:50:11] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@46.197.10.191> has joined #postfix[19:50:11] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@46.197.10.191> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:50:11] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has joined #postfix[19:51:01] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has joined #postfix[19:59:07] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c74:af6a:ef72:f0b1> has joined #postfix[20:28:00] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:28:47] *** sebastienthiry <sebastienthiry!~Thunderbi@91.176.27.29> has joined #postfix[20:30:52] *** Columbo0815 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