December 12, 2017 
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December 12, 2017 [00:12:58] <timeless> lunaphyte: it seems like postfix.triggers should have an `interest update-ca-certificates`[00:13:15] <timeless> (that's a debian-ism, not likely a postfix thing)[00:18:52] <lunaphyte> timeless: whatever mechanism manages system processes[00:18:57] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:19:03] <lunaphyte> an init script, an upstart job, a system unit, etc. etc.[00:19:31] <lunaphyte> in any event wholly unrelated to postfix[00:21:11] *** dh <dh!dh@bsd.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:24:31] * timeless shrugs[00:24:39] <timeless> doing a `restart` fixed that[00:24:52] <timeless> (reload doesn't, the code is only present in start, not reload)[00:27:12] <timeless> this doesn't do what i want https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WkxjHIm8/[00:27:14] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net> has joined #postfix[00:27:37] <timeless> The bulk-header is applied, but the auto header isn't[00:34:48] <timeless> lunaphyte: did i write the pipemap correctly?[00:36:27] *** dh <dh!dh@bsd.ee> has joined #postfix[00:38:56] <timeless> unrelated, can i do: `masquerade_domains = example.com foo.example.com`?[00:39:35] <timeless> hrm, no, that doesn't do what i want[00:40:57] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[00:43:30] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[00:50:54] *** M6HZ <M6HZ!~M6HZ@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #postfix[00:53:46] *** Jikai <Jikai!~Jikan@2001:41d0:8:7844::8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:54:53] *** breitenj- <breitenj-!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has joined #postfix[00:55:41] *** noteness <noteness!~noteness@unaffiliated/nessessary129> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:56:38] *** noteness <noteness!~noteness@unaffiliated/nessessary129> has joined #postfix[00:56:39] *** bjoe2k4 <bjoe2k4!bjoe2k4@beryllium.d9c.eu> has joined #postfix[00:56:45] *** _ruben_ <_ruben_!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[00:56:50] *** max-m <max-m!~max-m@2a01:4f8:150:6153:beef::6667> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:56:50] *** grossing <grossing!kBzrGx5wXn@pdpc/supporter/silver/grossing> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:56:50] *** testo <testo!void@unaffiliated/dakar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:13] *** breitenj <breitenj!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:36] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:36] *** tmberg <tmberg!tmberg@unaffiliated/tmberg> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:36] *** cnu- <cnu-!~u@s8635.suka.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:36] *** MeltedLux <MeltedLux!MeltedLux@help.lux.melted.me> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:37] *** Zerberus <Zerberus!~dogtail@irc.sys5.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:37] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:37] *** GTAXL <GTAXL!~gtaxlnetw@unaffiliated/gtaxl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:37] *** bjoe2k4_ <bjoe2k4_!bjoe2k4@beryllium.d9c.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:57:37] *** ZeiP <ZeiP!quasselcor@greenore.zeip.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:58:40] *** grossing <grossing!AkaDFZ8zsc@pdpc/supporter/silver/grossing> has joined #postfix[00:58:42] *** Jikan <Jikan!~Jikan@2001:41d0:8:7844::8> has joined #postfix[00:58:54] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has joined #postfix[00:59:00] *** ZeiP <ZeiP!zeip@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe73:fd27> has joined #postfix[00:59:31] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:59:38] *** pijiu <pijiu!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has joined #postfix[00:59:40] *** tmberg <tmberg!tmberg@unaffiliated/tmberg> has joined #postfix[01:00:57] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p54A249BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:02:25] *** MeltedLux <MeltedLux!MeltedLux@help.lux.melted.me> has joined #postfix[01:02:28] *** dakar <dakar!void@unaffiliated/dakar> has joined #postfix[01:02:33] *** max-m <max-m!~max-m@2a01:4f8:150:6153:beef::6667> has joined #postfix[01:02:33] *** cnu- <cnu-!~u@s8635.suka.se> has joined #postfix[01:02:38] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@84.162.73.188> has joined #postfix[01:02:43] *** Zerberus <Zerberus!~dogtail@irc.sys5.org> has joined #postfix[01:02:54] *** GTAXL <GTAXL!~gtaxlnetw@unaffiliated/gtaxl> has joined #postfix[01:05:16] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:06:03] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[01:11:35] *** bs <bs!bs@sahara.sigint.pw> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - 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ZZZzzz…)[03:32:35] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[03:34:06] *** Ownage <Ownage!~proprieta@104.237.90.224> has joined #postfix[03:35:52] <Ownage> Hello, I've got a default install of postfix so my server can send me and a few other people email alerts and such. One of my people is using hushmail as his email address. Whenever my server tries to email him, it gets this error: connect to plsmtp1.hushmail.com[72.51.60.132]:25: Connection timed out[03:37:20] <Ownage> When I try to telnet that port it doesn't connect. However I tried from another network and it does work[03:38:33] <Ownage> This is an aws ec2 instance[03:46:11] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:53:53] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@84.162.73.188> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[04:00:29] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p54A24483.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[04:20:45] *** qgTG <qgTG!~qgTG@unaffiliated/qgtg> has joined #postfix[04:21:14] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:33:51] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[04:40:22] *** chachasmooth_ <chachasmooth_!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:41:32] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:55:45] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[05:00:31] *** dakar <dakar!void@unaffiliated/dakar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:02:38] *** nadio <nadio!ice@unaffiliated/nadio> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:02:48] *** nadio <nadio!ice@2001:1608:3:3aaa:ffff::22> has joined #postfix[05:02:48] *** nadio <nadio!ice@2001:1608:3:3aaa:ffff::22> has quit IRC (Changing host)[05:02:48] *** nadio <nadio!ice@unaffiliated/nadio> has joined #postfix[05:03:22] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@208-70-47-114.bb.hrtc.net> has joined #postfix[05:03:43] *** dakar <dakar!void@unaffiliated/dakar> has joined #postfix[05:11:25] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:14:17] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[05:23:21] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:28:44] *** troys_ is now known as troys[05:47:21] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[05:48:10] <pj> !tell Ownage port_25_block[05:48:11] <knoba> Ownage: "port_25_block" : Many consumer-grade ISPs (and some which claim to be for business, such as Godaddy) block outbound port 25/tcp traffic to prevent abuse from their network. If your ISP does this, you should see the !basic and !relayhost factoids. Or, upgrade to business-class service (or change ISP if you already had it.)[05:48:53] <pj> although I'm not aware of aws blocking port 25, but this does sound like that, if it's not that then it's a firewall / network issue.[05:49:34] <timeless> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34694978/why-does-amazon-ec2-limit-port-25[06:06:16] <pj> other than the fact that amazon throttles port 25 the supposedly "correct" answer there is wrong.[06:17:56] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@85.97.122.232> has joined #postfix[06:17:56] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@85.97.122.232> has quit IRC (Changing host)[06:17:56] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has joined #postfix[06:20:11] *** proprietarysucks <proprietarysucks!~proprieta@111.193.161.240> has joined #postfix[06:22:16] *** Ownage <Ownage!~proprieta@104.237.90.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:31:44] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[06:33:00] *** Wulf <Wulf!~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf> has joined #postfix[06:42:57] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[06:51:59] *** Wulf <Wulf!~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[06:53:24] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[06:54:06] *** ArchNoob <ArchNoob!~ArchNoob@unaffiliated/archnoob> has joined #postfix[06:57:05] *** troys is now known as troys_[07:09:36] *** Dolanyeah110 <Dolanyeah110!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[07:25:26] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[07:27:21] *** Dolanyeah110 <Dolanyeah110!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:29:00] *** Dolanyeah110 <Dolanyeah110!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[07:33:35] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:36:10] *** Wulf <Wulf!~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf> has joined #postfix[07:51:37] *** troys_ is now known as troys[07:53:46] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[07:59:48] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has joined #postfix[07:59:50] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[08:04:21] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:05:14] *** _ruben_ is now known as _ruben[08:10:36] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[08:11:14] *** proprietarysucks <proprietarysucks!~proprieta@111.193.161.240> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:13:34] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[08:25:57] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:26:39] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:27:28] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[08:32:13] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:39:43] *** Wulf <Wulf!~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:40:36] *** Wulf <Wulf!~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf> has joined #postfix[08:45:09] *** cite_ <cite_!~cite@physadeia.incertum.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting)[08:45:16] *** cite <cite!~cite@physadeia.incertum.net> has joined #postfix[08:54:16] *** Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde[09:06:04] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[09:08:57] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[09:12:33] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:14:21] *** tafazzi87 <tafazzi87!~tafazzi87@185.96.217.2> has joined #postfix[09:14:25] <tafazzi87> hi[09:15:45] <tafazzi87> !welcome[09:15:46] <knoba> tafazzi87: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![09:15:46] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has joined #postfix[09:16:09] <tafazzi87> !showconfig[09:16:10] <knoba> tafazzi87: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[09:17:51] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:18:47] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[09:30:40] *** farseerfc <farseerfc!~farseerfc@archlinux/tu/farseerfc> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[09:30:53] *** farseerfc <farseerfc!~farseerfc@archlinux/tu/farseerfc> has joined #postfix[09:32:24] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.81> has joined #postfix[09:35:26] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[09:37:35] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[09:42:00] *** necrogami <necrogami!sid211237@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlybnwqmbisiuugd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:43:36] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Does anyone have any tips on how to choose database backend ? I see on my system there are lots of options (berkdb, lmdb, cdb, etc.), but why choose one, over the other? Or maybe better yet, of those, which is the most reliable, fast and widely used?[15:20:47] <rob0> stick with what's default for your OS; it does not matter much.[15:21:34] <rob0> I think cdb might be best overall, but bdb is most common[15:22:44] <dystant> rob0: thanks[15:23:01] <lunaphyte> my personal opinion is 1] avoid bdb, and 2] use lmdb[15:23:19] <lunaphyte> i'd expect lmdb to perform better than cdb[15:23:39] <lunaphyte> and we already know that lmdb outperforms bdb by orders of magnitude[15:24:01] *** shaytan <shaytan!~shaytan@31-208-8-193.cust.bredband2.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:24:09] <dystant> can I just switch the type in the .conf?[15:24:23] <lunaphyte> hmm?[15:24:30] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:24:39] <rob0> but I don't believe I have ever heard a story of someone where lack of speed of bdb caused a problem[15:24:54] <lunaphyte> me neither[15:25:18] <lunaphyte> but that's not the real reason to avoid it[15:25:45] <dystant> i meant I just do lmdb:blahblah[15:25:49] <dystant> and it should work, right?[15:25:58] *** shaytan <shaytan!~shaytan@31-208-8-193.cust.bredband2.com> has joined #postfix[15:26:00] <tuxick> speed is the one thing b0rkeleydb doesn't have issues with[15:26:23] <lunaphyte> tuxick: it does, as compared to lmdb[15:26:39] <lunaphyte> dystant: you'd want to read database_readme, and go from there[15:26:41] <tuxick> really?[15:26:44] <rob0> !lmdb[15:26:44] <knoba> rob0: "lmdb" : OpenLDAP LMDB database. This is available only on systems with support for LMDB databases. Public database files are created with the postmap(1) or postalias(1) command, and private databases are maintained by Postfix daemons. The database name as used in lmdb:table is the database file name without the .lmdb suffix. See lmdb_table(5) for details. also see LMDB_README[15:26:58] <tuxick> ooh that does ring a bell[15:27:04] <lunaphyte> [09.23.38] lunaphyte: and we already know that lmdb outperforms bdb by orders of magnitude[15:27:09] <tuxick> right[15:27:29] *** Sacha <Sacha!~Lotusbleu@unaffiliated/lotusbleu> has joined #postfix[15:27:48] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:28:33] *** Wulf <Wulf!~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:35:29] <dystant> lunaphyte: yes I was reading it, I thought I'd ask it. thanks everyone[15:35:47] *** iheartlinux <iheartlinux!~jwpierce3@mail.trunkmasters.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[15:36:27] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[15:36:57] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:37:36] *** iheartlinux <iheartlinux!~jwpierce3@mail.trunkmasters.com> has joined #postfix[15:41:43] *** Dolanyeah110 <Dolanyeah110!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[15:51:21] *** Wulf <Wulf!~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf> has joined #postfix[15:57:33] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[16:01:53] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[16:04:12] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[16:05:38] *** Madda_ <Madda_!~Madda@5.170.197.148> has joined #postfix[16:08:15] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:08:27] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:09:21] *** ogny <ogny!~orkun@unaffiliated/ogny> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:11:56] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[16:14:48] *** Madda_ <Madda_!~Madda@5.170.197.148> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:17:15] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[16:23:43] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:25:39] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[16:28:31] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:31:34] <Sacha> hello /close[16:31:40] *** Sacha <Sacha!~Lotusbleu@unaffiliated/lotusbleu> has left #postfix[16:35:12] *** mikecmpb_ <mikecmpb_!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[16:37:14] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:41:21] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[16:43:22] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@75.98.206.5> has joined #postfix[16:45:30] <tuxick> i think /close just left[16:49:23] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:49:29] *** Madda_ <Madda_!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[16:54:09] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:56:45] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:00:13] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has joined #postfix[17:07:59] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:08:57] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[17:10:20] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-254-101.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:15:51] <GTAXL> Is there a way to edit your bounce back e-mails and the from address, etc.?[17:17:33] *** Pixelz <Pixelz!pix@pix.pp.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:20:34] *** Pixelz <Pixelz!pix@pix.pp.se> has joined #postfix[17:20:53] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:21:21] <petn-randall> !bounce_template_file[17:21:21] <knoba> petn-randall: "bounce_template_file" : Pathname of a configuration file with bounce message templates. These override the built-in templates of delivery status notification (DSN) messages for undeliverable mail, for delayed mail, successful delivery, or delivery verification. 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The mail server responded:[18:31:35] <GTAXL> 5.7.1 <gtaxl at gtaxl dot net>: Sender address rejected: not owned by user gtaxl at gtaxl dot net.[18:31:35] <GTAXL> Please check the message recipient "mastergta2 at gmail dot com" and try again.[18:32:08] <GTAXL> Maybe I put em in the wrong order https://pastebin.com/raw/Tb2er0aW[18:32:13] <rob0> aha, yes, it's always best to start with the problem and goal.[18:32:35] <rob0> !smtpd_sender_login_maps[18:32:35] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_sender_login_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup table with the SASL login names that own sender (MAIL FROM) addresses.[18:33:38] <rob0> input (the lookup key) is the sender address; output (the lookup value) is one or more SASL login names which are entitled to use that sender address.[18:33:44] <GTAXL> I use a mysql database, can it pull from it?[18:34:09] <rob0> as long as the correct query returns the correct result, sure![18:35:24] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:37:42] <tuxick> got misbehaving users? just kill their accounts[18:38:54] <rob0> well, yeah, I never have bothered to implement this either, does not make sense for us.[18:39:50] <GTAXL> someone could easily spoof from my e-mail address and it'd pass spf/dkim, etc. as it's coming from my server. I want it to be limited to their auth'd e-mail and their aliases that are defined in mysql[18:39:51] <rob0> I'd think it only makes sense in large environments where you as postmaster have little if any control over the users ... like a university maybe.[18:58:09] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[19:00:41] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[19:11:37] *** dystant <dystant!~dystant@46.251.104.243> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[19:15:31] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:17:28] *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #postfix[19:22:56] *** sfs <sfs!~pkubaj@unaffiliated/sfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:30:13] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:50:01] *** ArchNoob <ArchNoob!~ArchNoob@unaffiliated/archnoob> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[20:03:08] *** visip <visip!~visix@gateway/tor-sasl/visip> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:04:13] *** visip <visip!~visix@gateway/tor-sasl/visip> has joined #postfix[20:04:15] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[20:12:27] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:18:09] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[20:37:39] *** syshero <syshero!~chaosmake@unaffiliated/chaosmaker> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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This means that smtps should *not* be used, and that this factoid exists for historical purposes only and should not be implemented. See !submission for smtps' successor. That being said, Postfix can implement smtps with a separate smtpd(8) listener with \"-o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes\". See the commented example in master.cf.[21:23:31] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@adsl-dyn107.78-98-38.t-com.sk> has joined #postfix[21:23:32] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@adsl-dyn107.78-98-38.t-com.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:23:32] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[21:23:45] <rob0> also, use this to test your lookups:[21:23:50] <rob0> !postmapq[21:23:50] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf you may check this mapping by running postmap -q example.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf and see if it works.[21:25:33] *** indy <indy!~indy@dsl-static-104.213-160-167.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)[21:25:39] <rob0> You did not include logs nor full config so a definite answer is not possible, but my WAG is that you tested from inside mynetworks. You have permit_mynetworks before your reject_sender_login_mismatch, so that would do it.[21:25:45] <GTAXL> the postmap is spitting out the same thing that the mysql queries do[21:26:18] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.81> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:27:54] <GTAXL> removed the mynetworks, still no go[21:29:32] <GTAXL> as far as the postfix logs, when I send an email I see no error, nothing strange[21:29:49] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:30:00] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[21:30:18] *** indy <indy!~indy@dsl-static-104.213-160-167.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[21:32:23] *** internat <internat!biteme2@58.84.79.209> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:33:31] <rob0> good luck[21:34:07] *** skylite <skylite!~skylite@BC061735.catv.pool.telekom.hu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:34:07] *** 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!pastebin[21:41:33] *** synapt <synapt!NBishop@pdpc/supporter/monthlybronze/synapt> has joined #postfix[21:41:41] *** amospalla <amospalla!~amospalla@unaffiliated/amospalla> has joined #postfix[21:41:58] *** sputnik <sputnik!kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has joined #postfix[21:42:13] <GTAXL> !relevant_logs[21:42:13] <knoba> GTAXL: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[21:42:24] *** k-man <k-man!~jason@unaffiliated/k-man> has joined #postfix[21:44:14] *** synapt is now known as nate[21:45:06] <GTAXL> https://pastebin.com/raw/1pkFs9VD[21:45:09] <GTAXL> ?[21:45:15] *** Zilon_ <Zilon_!~Zilon@www.schem.me> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[21:45:15] *** dl8bh <dl8bh!~bammes@shells.postadigitale.org> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[21:45:15] *** tohuw <tohuw!~tohuw@unaffiliated/tohuw> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[21:45:15] *** RaiNerTsuFal <RaiNerTsuFal!~RaiNerTsu@89.187.142.244> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[21:45:23] *** tohuw <tohuw!~tohuw@45.32.197.203> has joined #postfix[21:45:23] *** Zilon <Zilon!~Zilon@2a03:4000:6:b039::202> has joined #postfix[21:45:25] <GTAXL> that's me sending a modified From header to my riseup email, no errors[21:45:38] <GTAXL> should I set it more verbose? o.O[21:45:46] *** tohuw is now known as Guest16225[21:45:52] *** dl8bh <dl8bh!~bammes@shells.postadigitale.org> has joined #postfix[21:48:27] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:49:11] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:50:21] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[21:50:21] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:50:21] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[21:50:26] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[21:51:42] *** albech <albech!~Thunderbi@5.103.131.12> has quit IRC (Quit: albech)[21:53:24] <rob0> um, what you showed us was envelope sender and SASL username both being gtaxl@gtaxl[21:53:34] <rob0> should that not have been permitted?[21:58:20] <GTAXL> I noticed, that is odd as I did change the From header in thunderbird, and it shows up spoofed on the recieving client[22:00:42] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has joined #postfix[22:01:57] <GTAXL> message ID's match... https://pastebin.com/raw/JvisVWQZ[22:02:08] * GTAXL scratches head[22:07:28] *** ksa <ksa!~m@178.62.247.197> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[22:07:28] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@92.55.116.178> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[22:07:35] *** ksa <ksa!~m@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::20:c001> has joined #postfix[22:08:40] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@92.55.116.178> has joined #postfix[22:08:49] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host189-139-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:09:53] <lunaphyte> from header?[22:10:04] <lunaphyte> why is that surprising?[22:10:20] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host134-59-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[22:12:02] <GTAXL> yes, as I stated I don't want users to spoof e-mail addresses that don't belong to them[22:14:04] <lunaphyte> oh, well, once the !getting_help instructions are followed, then folks here will be able to [or will be willing to] help[22:17:46] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:19:41] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:20:47] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[22:21:01] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[22:26:54] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[22:28:31] <rob0> So what you're really wanting is in addition to this: you want to enforce envelope sender and From: header agreement.[22:31:31] <rob0> A milter might be better suited for that job. I'm not sure how Postfix could do that natively.[22:33:14] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@95.211.199.135> has joined #postfix[22:34:03] *** [NoClan]GoAway_ <[NoClan]GoAway_!~NoClan@95.211.199.152> has joined #postfix[22:35:21] *** _[NoClan]GoAway <_[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has joined #postfix[22:36:51] *** _[NoClan]GoAway <_[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has left #postfix[22:37:00] *** _[NoClan]GoAway <_[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has joined #postfix[22:37:04] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@95.211.199.135> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:38:20] *** [NoClan]GoAway_ <[NoClan]GoAway_!~NoClan@95.211.199.152> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:39:20] *** _[NoClan]GoAway <_[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has left #postfix[22:39:22] *** _[NoClan]GoAway <_[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has joined #postfix[22:39:25] *** _[NoClan]GoAway <_[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has left #postfix[22:39:31] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has joined #postfix[22:40:51] *** RaiNerTsuFal <RaiNerTsuFal!~RaiNerTsu@89.187.142.244> has joined #postfix[22:41:47] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[22:43:25] <GTAXL> So reject_known_sender_login_mismatch checks the Return-Path header, not the From: header is what you're saying?[22:43:42] <lunaphyte> it doesn't check any headers, at all[22:43:47] <lunaphyte> it check the envelope sender[22:43:49] <lunaphyte> *checks[22:45:04] <GTAXL> :| so I have to find a milter[22:46:02] <lunaphyte> the only way i know that it could potentially be done with postfix would be by using header_checks, but like rob0 said, i'm not sure how that would work, if it even could[22:46:39] <rob0> I was thinking maybe sender_canonical_maps[22:46:56] <rob0> (but still not sure)[22:47:38] <GTAXL> but it's such an easy thing to do, anyone can edit the From header with their email client, Thunderbird can, and make the email come from my address and it'll be perfectly accepted as my server will pass spf/dkim[22:48:09] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[22:48:47] <GTAXL> by that same logic could I spoof someone else's @gmail.com address using Google's SMTP?[22:50:15] <rob0> they probably do enforce envelope/From: agreement. And they're a good example of what I was talking about: a huge userbase almost entirely beyond the control of the postmaster.[22:51:16] <rob0> also, they require AUTH, and they're going to limit sender & From: to addresses associated with the account[22:51:18] <GTAXL> but this sounds like an easy fix if postfix implemented it, I mean postfix sees the auth'd address, and it could pull aliases from a database, and easily check, is this auth'd user allowed to send with this From address[22:52:21] <rob0> it's not easy because Postfix does not normally look at the headers, except to ensure they have correct form & syntax.[22:52:46] <rob0> it would be easier to do in Exim, I think[22:52:53] <rob0> or Sendmail[22:52:58] <rob0> !exim[22:52:58] <knoba> rob0: "exim" : Exim is a message transfer agent (MTA) for use on Unix systems connected to the Internet. In style it is similar to Smail 3, but its facilities are more general. It is currently the default MTA for Debian. http://http://www.exim.org/[22:53:08] <GTAXL> what about the To: header, doesn't it read that to know where to send the email..[22:53:14] <rob0> no[22:53:17] <lunaphyte> good lord no[22:53:44] <rob0> one exception, see "-t" in "man sendmail"[22:55:39] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@host88-241-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[23:00:52] *** Madda_ <Madda_!~Madda@5.170.192.52> has joined #postfix[23:01:38] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:01:56] *** syshero <syshero!~chaosmake@unaffiliated/chaosmaker> has joined #postfix[23:02:40] *** syshero <syshero!~chaosmake@unaffiliated/chaosmaker> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:04:52] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@host88-241-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[23:08:14] *** aero-224 <aero-224!~aero-224@DSL-vlan426-66-18-218-182.broadband.nucleus.com> has joined #postfix[23:14:17] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:15:04] *** Madda_ is now known as Madda[23:16:49] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@5ED2D54E.cm-7-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[23:20:39] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@5.170.192.52> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[23:21:21] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@host88-241-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[23:24:21] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@5ED2D54E.cm-7-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:34:11] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:39:19] *** ephemer0l_ <ephemer0l_!~ephemer0l@pentoo/user/ephemer0l> has joined #postfix[23:40:02] *** yoink <yoink!~yoink@unaffiliated/yoink> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:54:43] *** yoink <yoink!~yoink@unaffiliated/yoink> has joined #postfix[23:56:11] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@79.38.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)