December 8, 2017 
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<clarjon1!~clarjon1@unaffiliated/clarjon1> has joined #postfix[04:22:15] <clarjon1> !welcome[04:22:15] <knoba> clarjon1: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![04:22:34] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[04:26:30] *** jucaroba <jucaroba!~quassel@static-153-155-225-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:26:45] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has joined #postfix[04:28:12] *** jucaroba <jucaroba!~quassel@static-153-155-225-77.ipcom.comunitel.net> has joined #postfix[04:30:55] <clarjon1> Hey guys![04:31:05] <clarjon1> So here's what I'm wanting to do: I want to setup a mail relay.[04:31:15] <clarjon1> via vpn[04:31:27] <clarjon1> I have an existing mailserver that's having issues with the ISP doing filtering[04:32:15] <clarjon1> And setup a vpn connection to another server, and use postfix as a relay[04:32:20] <clarjon1> am I on the right track here?[04:37:03] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[04:37:33] *** chachasmooth 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<FortunateSon!~Fortunate@rrcs-67-79-54-156.sw.biz.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:39:54] <FortunateSon> Hello! I'm in need of some assistance. My google fu is failing me[17:40:40] <FortunateSon> im using the filter_headers file to specify the next hop and that part is working...[17:40:53] *** Jellyg00se <Jellyg00se!~Alfie@195.99.134.162> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:41:24] <FortunateSon> but the next hop required tls and the filter setting overrides the settings in main.cf[17:41:40] <FortunateSon> how do I tell the next hop to use tls?[17:43:04] <FortunateSon> here is what my header filter looks: "/xheader: altrelay/ FILTER smtp:redacted.com"[17:43:31] <FortunateSon> its actually /^xheader: altrelay/[17:43:36] <lunaphyte> filter_headers? next hop?[17:44:22] <FortunateSon> lunaphyte: header_checks, sorry[17:44:22] *** HzRD <HzRD!~HzRD@static-96-237-50-71.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #postfix[17:44:22] <thumbs> I wonder what problem FortunateSon is trying to solve.[17:44:23] <lunaphyte> what is the actual problem you are trying to solve[17:44:29] <lunaphyte> oh header_checks[17:44:32] <lunaphyte> yikes[17:44:32] <FortunateSon> im running on no sleep[17:44:42] <lunaphyte> routing mail based on headers is NOT good[17:44:46] <lunaphyte> a very bad idea[17:45:47] <FortunateSon> the headers are being injected by a system I control, and being read by another system only I control[17:46:31] <FortunateSon> and ... sadly, it is the only option I have available[17:46:48] <lunaphyte> why are you doing this?[17:46:56] <lunaphyte> what problem is it meant to solve?[17:47:18] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has joined #postfix[17:47:39] <FortunateSon> short version? DLP email system is injecting headers into messages that need to be encrypted[17:48:14] <FortunateSon> the postfix box looks for the headers, if present route to the encryption smarthost, if not route out the default smart host[17:48:31] <lunaphyte> what's a dlp email system?[17:48:39] <FortunateSon> data loss prevention[17:48:43] <lunaphyte> oh[17:48:51] <lunaphyte> grrr[17:48:52] <lunaphyte> i see[17:48:57] <lunaphyte> this old gag again :([17:48:57] <FortunateSon> scans all out bound email for SSNs and such[17:49:02] <lunaphyte> yeah[17:49:33] <FortunateSon> I completely agree about routing on headers but sadly the DLP system only supports modifying the headers or the subject[17:49:43] <lunaphyte> more nonsense with the "put this at the beginning of your subject line and your message will get encrypted" crap[17:49:53] <lunaphyte> yeah, it's not uncommon, unfortunately[17:50:05] <FortunateSon> yeah[17:50:18] <lunaphyte> people thinking they're clever and wanting a "feature"[17:50:31] <FortunateSon> the issue is I need to force the connection to the encryption host to use TLS[17:51:34] <lunaphyte> so this part you'll probably have to give some more detail: "the next hop required tls and the filter setting overrides the settings"[17:51:34] <FortunateSon> I have TLS enabled in main.cf but AFAICT the filter redirect overrides main.cf's relay setting[17:51:50] <lunaphyte> generally, if postfix is configured properly, if encryption is offered by the remote server, postfix will use it[17:52:31] <FortunateSon> the exact error imgetting is: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first (in reply to MAIL FROM command)[17:53:14] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:53:37] <lunaphyte> if you do a pastebin as per !getting_help, i'm sure we can easily identify the issue[17:53:44] <lunaphyte> !tell FortunateSon getting_help[17:53:45] <knoba> FortunateSon: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[17:55:09] <FortunateSon> my apologies, I glossed over the welcome banner. Ill get that info together and be right back[17:55:33] <FortunateSon> !relevant_logs[17:55:33] <knoba> FortunateSon: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[17:55:44] <FortunateSon> !showconfig[17:55:44] <knoba> FortunateSon: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[17:58:27] <HzRD> https://pastebin.com/q3pJe3gZ hi im new to postfix and im wondering why if i send an email to us it doesnt go to the relayhost we use gmail for education thanks so much[18:02:54] <FortunateSon> Got the info: https://pastebin.com/AQ6kkwZ4[18:03:02] <FortunateSon> any help is appreciated[18:11:43] *** freejim <freejim!60ed3247@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.237.50.71> has joined #postfix[18:19:27] *** troys is now known as troys_[18:23:33] *** timeless <timeless!sid4015@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdpfmqzygxcdhbkt> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:23:33] *** timeless <timeless!sid4015@firefox/developer/timeless> has joined #postfix[18:23:36] * FortunateSon sheepishly raises hand[18:24:01] <FortunateSon> ...so ... about that problem ... anyone got any ideas?[18:24:05] *** MacWinner <MacWinner!~Blah@136.24.54.73> has joined #postfix[18:33:35] *** HzRD <HzRD!~HzRD@static-96-237-50-71.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[18:33:51] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@diego.tcpreset.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:34:33] <lunaphyte> !tell FortunateSon smtp_tls_security_level[18:34:35] <knoba> FortunateSon: "smtp_tls_security_level" : The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[18:34:39] <lunaphyte> you're missing that[18:34:46] <lunaphyte> set smtp_tls_security_level = may[18:35:06] <FortunateSon> one sec! I will do that right now.[18:35:06] <lunaphyte> also smtpd_use_tls should not be used[18:35:16] <lunaphyte> use smtpd_tls_security_level[18:35:35] <lunaphyte> from the config, it looks like this may just be an msa. is that right?[18:36:24] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:36:29] <lunaphyte> bbiab[18:36:45] *** epony <epony!~nym@77-85-133-37.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[18:36:54] <FortunateSon> if msa == mail submission agent, meaning users do nto send email directly to the postfix box, it gets relayed to the box, then yes[18:39:13] <FortunateSon> lunaphyte: GOOD LORD I OWE YOU A BEER[18:39:32] <FortunateSon> you have a paypal I'll send you a fiver for your next pint[18:40:05] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c74:af6a:ef72:f0b1> has joined #postfix[18:47:07] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host187-144-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[18:53:27] *** freejim <freejim!60ed3247@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.237.50.71> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[18:53:43] *** quan <quan!~quassel@50.35.109.212> has joined #postfix[18:55:03] <lunaphyte> !tell FortunateSon msa[18:55:03] <knoba> FortunateSon: "msa" : Message Submission Agent : a process which accepts message submissions from MUAs on port 587 known as 'message submission service' using the 'message submission protocol' defined by rfc4409. To enable message submission service in postfix uncomment the relevant lines in master.cf. also see !submission.[18:55:49] <lunaphyte> it means the system is receives mail only from clients, who are submitting mail for various reasons to be relayed along to some other final destination[18:56:13] <lunaphyte> it means the system does not receive email as an mx - e.g. from other mail servers on the public internet[18:57:23] <FortunateSon> then, yes. No MX record point to this server. It exists only to route emails based on certain criterion[18:57:34] <lunaphyte> that's an msa then, yeah[18:57:40] <lunaphyte> it should be named as such :)[18:58:29] <FortunateSon> so the name should be msa.domain.tld ... I'll do that today[18:58:33] <lunaphyte> yeah[18:58:39] <FortunateSon> I will need to regen the certs, buts thats not too bad[19:00:43] <FortunateSon> lunaphyte: thank you very much. And, I'm serious about the fiver. 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