September 29, 2015 
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September 29, 2015 [00:05:31] *** jwing has joined #postfix[00:06:36] *** wsky has quit IRC[00:06:47] *** vigilvindex has quit IRC[00:07:32] *** wsky has joined #postfix[00:07:54] *** vigilvindex has joined #postfix[00:10:10] *** Nomads has quit IRC[00:10:43] *** Nomads has joined #postfix[00:11:46] *** upbeta has quit IRC[00:12:40] *** robinho86 has quit IRC[00:14:48] *** ffiore has quit IRC[00:25:38] *** fornax has quit IRC[00:29:59] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[00:30:28] *** infides has quit IRC[00:37:00] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[00:38:35] *** gamba47 has quit IRC[00:39:41] *** gamba47 has joined #postfix[01:04:28] *** gamba47 has quit IRC[01:05:26] *** Ashley` has quit IRC[01:09:59] *** fornax has joined #postfix[01:11:58] *** Southron has joined #postfix[01:24:59] *** fornax has quit IRC[01:31:09] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[01:33:16] *** showaz has joined #postfix[01:33:25] <showaz> want to enlighten developers postfix, dkim/spf and other supports one library under GPLv2 see no point in OpenDKIM[01:33:35] <showaz> OpenDKIM crap by design[01:34:03] <showaz> 50% config opendkim non sense[01:39:47] *** djadk has quit IRC[01:40:30] *** shealyw2 has joined #postfix[01:44:42] <shealyw2> Hi guys, I have my postfix server setup and running. I have the mailbox webmaster at example dot com. Now I want to add the ability to send an email to list at example dot com and have it forward out to a bunch of emails. Am I right in reading the documentation that i would use the virtual_alias_maps?[01:45:09] <shealyw2> also is this a good table for postgres to use to look it up id,domain,address_to_forward_to?[01:45:27] <shealyw2> or rather email instead of domain.[01:46:55] <pj> shealyw2: if example.com is a virtual domain, then yes, but you may want to consider using an mlm.[01:47:03] <pj> !tell shealyw2 mlm[01:47:03] <knoba> shealyw2: "mlm" : Mailing List Manager: A program to manage subscription-based mail distribution lists; their functionality can include moderation, bounce processing, VERP, message digests, and flood control. See http://www.postfix.org/addon.html#lists[01:48:33] <shealyw2> thank you pj, that sounds like a better idea. Could I set it up so that replies only go back the the sender and not the mailing list with an mlm?[01:49:34] <pj> shealyw2: probably, almost certainly, but that's config in the mlm so not really a postfix question.[01:50:17] <shealyw2> true pj, thanks![02:07:04] *** sysdef has quit IRC[02:08:12] *** sysdef has joined #postfix[02:08:26] *** \sky has quit IRC[02:17:33] *** skweek has joined #postfix[02:17:48] *** \sky has joined #postfix[02:26:36] *** zhb has quit IRC[02:27:04] *** buki has quit IRC[02:27:12] *** buki has joined #postfix[02:30:23] <showaz> opendkim: external host localhost attempted to send as example.com[02:30:35] <showaz> postfix smtp null-client[02:30:45] <showaz> dkim r.i.p.[02:45:46] *** daynaskully has quit IRC[02:47:41] *** sphenxes02 has quit IRC[02:47:48] *** ghormoon has quit IRC[02:48:14] *** parasite has quit IRC[02:52:01] *** ignoblegnat has joined #postfix[02:52:35] *** ghormoon has joined #postfix[02:52:44] *** daynaskully has joined #postfix[02:55:18] 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*** ThomasKeller has joined #postfix[06:50:35] *** skweek has quit IRC[06:51:57] *** sphenxes01 has joined #postfix[06:55:36] *** sphenxes02 has quit IRC[06:55:45] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[06:56:12] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[06:56:16] *** skweek has joined #postfix[06:59:31] <mices> i can't figure out why pf is aliasing one of my accounts[07:00:44] *** skweek has quit IRC[07:02:06] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[07:02:24] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[07:12:45] *** skweek has joined #postfix[07:19:44] <pj> !tell mices getting_help[07:19:44] <knoba> mices: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[07:50:45] *** Cybertinus has quit IRC[07:53:11] *** enclyp has joined #postfix[07:55:12] *** Cybertinus has joined #postfix[08:08:17] *** Tourist has joined #postfix[08:14:14] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[08:14:47] *** carl- has joined #postfix[08:35:52] *** ogny has joined #postfix[08:55:27] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[08:55:53] *** marc__ has joined #postfix[08:56:46] *** marc__ has quit IRC[09:02:49] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[09:05:21] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[09:07:33] *** Southron has quit IRC[09:12:59] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[09:15:09] *** lrea has joined #postfix[09:15:34] *** roxlu has joined #postfix[09:23:59] <mices> knoba: i already checked everything, i can't find where there's an alias statement in any config files[09:31:36] <survietamine> you are talking to a bot[09:32:38] <survietamine> and you still don't comply to what the factoid asks for[09:36:47] *** albech has joined #postfix[09:36:58] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[09:42:11] *** ploopkazoo has quit IRC[09:42:51] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[09:47:25] *** ploopkazoo has joined #postfix[09:52:16] *** Ashley` has joined #postfix[10:10:21] *** stemid has joined #postfix[10:10:34] <stemid> quick question about client_access, will .domain.tld only match subdomains or also the domain?[10:10:50] <stemid> nevermind, found the manpage[10:10:51] <stemid> http://www.postfix.org/access.5.html[10:10:54] <stemid> it matches only subdomains[10:11:26] *** schrodinger_ is now known as schrodinger[10:11:28] <stemid> domain.tld is apparently better[10:22:04] *** sarri has quit IRC[10:22:27] *** mikecmpbll has joined #postfix[10:23:30] *** sarri has joined #postfix[10:29:52] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[11:01:09] *** sphenxes02 has joined #postfix[11:04:36] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[11:04:50] *** sphenxes01 has quit IRC[11:05:18] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[11:13:08] *** sexywoodenspoon has joined #postfix[11:15:00] *** sexywoodenspoon has quit IRC[11:24:28] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[11:39:29] *** moeyebus has quit IRC[11:40:15] *** moeyebus has joined #postfix[11:47:13] *** davlefouAMD has joined #postfix[11:47:19] *** moeyebus has left #postfix[12:02:31] *** fornax has joined #postfix[12:16:26] *** shoonya has quit IRC[12:31:01] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[12:38:11] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[12:38:30] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[12:42:28] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[12:47:53] *** pti-jean_ has joined #postfix[12:48:00] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[12:49:29] *** pokrak_ has quit IRC[12:54:39] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[12:57:52] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[12:58:32] *** sep has quit IRC[12:58:32] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[13:04:59] *** ffiore has quit IRC[13:07:22] *** sep has joined #postfix[13:19:57] <Tuxick> does anyone know a secret address/form to get in touch with a real person from hotmail?[13:20:12] <Tuxick> i only get useless replies from rajesh in india[13:22:20] *** car has joined #postfix[13:23:04] *** jwing has quit IRC[13:24:26] <car> Hi there! Is it possible to exclude a single email-address while relaying all other addresses through relay_domains= ?[13:25:41] <car> e.g. relay_domains=example.com (but me at example dot com should be delivered locally)[13:26:12] <Tuxick> huh?[13:26:28] *** daynaskully has quit IRC[13:27:32] *** brgtt has joined #postfix[13:30:05] <car> maybe it works when using transport instead of relay_domains[13:30:32] *** daynaskully has joined #postfix[13:31:29] <Tuxick> if it's local it gets delivered locally[13:31:32] <Tuxick> sounds confusing[13:37:33] *** arinov_ has quit IRC[13:37:53] *** arinov has joined #postfix[13:39:17] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[13:43:00] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[13:48:50] *** kokel has quit IRC[13:49:30] *** kokel has joined #postfix[14:00:17] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:07:23] *** fornax has quit IRC[14:07:37] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[14:10:35] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[14:10:38] <lunaphyte> alias the desired address to some other address which is handled "locally" [whatever that actually means][14:10:47] *** fornax has joined #postfix[14:13:31] *** gamba47 has joined #postfix[14:26:09] *** drehmer has joined #postfix[14:37:54] <car> lunaphyte: hmm i'll give it a try , thx[14:43:20] *** skweek has quit IRC[14:44:50] *** souther has quit IRC[14:46:36] *** souther has joined #postfix[14:47:33] *** fornax has quit IRC[14:54:38] *** sarri has quit IRC[14:55:58] *** sarri has joined #postfix[15:03:15] *** bolt has quit IRC[15:03:44] *** skweek has joined #postfix[15:06:32] *** bolt has joined #postfix[15:10:16] *** jwing has joined #postfix[15:13:18] *** fornax has joined #postfix[15:14:16] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[15:15:23] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[15:18:28] *** FinboySlick has joined #postfix[15:23:53] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[15:29:36] *** ffiore has quit IRC[15:29:59] *** PHPanos has joined #postfix[15:29:59] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[15:32:52] *** arinov has quit IRC[15:32:57] *** 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IRC[16:41:29] <Tuxick> hotmail clowns actually forcing us to move a mailserver to other IP[16:41:38] <Tuxick> arrogant pricks[16:45:41] <patdk-wk> how?[16:45:50] <patdk-wk> I thought the issue was forwarding email :)[16:48:03] *** skweek has joined #postfix[16:48:05] *** penk_ has quit IRC[16:50:19] *** PHPanos has quit IRC[16:55:01] *** penk_ has joined #postfix[17:02:30] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[17:04:25] *** lrea has left #postfix[17:04:45] *** ffiore has quit IRC[17:10:41] *** albech has quit IRC[17:20:15] <Tuxick> patdk-wk: i fixed that last week[17:20:47] <Tuxick> but i still get autoreply from Rajesh[17:21:00] <Tuxick> their servers don't even check[17:21:08] <Tuxick> just reject on rcpt to[17:27:39] *** trn has quit IRC[17:36:08] *** Chill_Surf has joined #postfix[17:36:33] *** trn has joined #postfix[17:48:33] *** fornax has quit IRC[18:04:36] *** skweek has joined #postfix[18:06:47] *** infides has joined #postfix[18:08:45] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[18:18:19] *** trn 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#postfix[19:48:38] *** skweek has quit IRC[19:51:11] *** dewdrop has joined #postfix[19:54:13] *** internat has quit IRC[19:54:32] *** internat has joined #postfix[19:56:35] *** roo has quit IRC[19:56:52] *** dstarh has joined #postfix[20:13:41] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[20:15:56] *** Horrorca1 is now known as Horrorcat[20:40:07] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[20:42:14] *** davlefouAMD has quit IRC[20:42:28] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[20:47:34] *** terr1 has quit IRC[20:48:42] <ag4ve> is there a way to include the postfix id in the header?[20:48:49] *** gusto has joined #postfix[20:48:53] <gusto> hey[20:48:56] <ag4ve> or some other way of correlating log lines to actual emails?[20:48:56] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[20:48:59] <gusto> how is it going?[20:49:06] <gusto> I have an interesting problem[20:49:20] *** terr1 has joined #postfix[20:49:34] <gusto> I am trying to do two different postfix smtp clients one with ipv4 only with a specific ehlo to be send and other with ipv6 with another ehlo[20:50:55] *** gusto has quit IRC[20:51:03] *** gusto has joined #postfix[20:51:12] <gusto> so[20:52:14] <gusto> because I am as far as giving up that *** on ipv4 completely[20:52:42] <gusto> however, even on IPv6, when one has more IPv6 addresses only one could be used for sending emails from there, because only one would have a matching PTR record to the EHLO saying[20:53:43] *** the_doc has quit IRC[20:53:50] <patdk-wk> ag4ve how did it go mising?[20:54:54] <gusto> lol[20:55:00] <gusto> "I think we lost something"[20:55:03] *** the_doc has joined #postfix[20:57:54] <ag4ve> patdk-wk: i mean, i have a line like this: Sep 29 06:04:59 <host> postfix/qmgr[3033]: 0850E20200DB: removed[20:58:18] <ag4ve> but my only way of tracking it is via the sender and time stamp[20:58:29] <ag4ve> since the client sets the time stamp, this isn't very good[20:59:04] <ag4ve> errr - by "tracking it" - i mean searching through maildir to find where the message is[20:59:32] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[21:02:11] *** penk_ has quit IRC[21:02:56] <patdk-wk> heh?[21:03:01] <patdk-wk> what are you talking about?[21:03:12] <patdk-wk> you can't locate 0850E20200DB in the headers?[21:03:17] <patdk-wk> how did you loose it?[21:04:21] *** terr1 has quit IRC[21:06:51] *** terr1 has joined #postfix[21:11:53] *** terr1 has quit IRC[21:12:52] *** terr1 has joined #postfix[21:23:27] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[21:23:28] <ag4ve> patdk-wk: nope, it's not[21:23:56] <lunaphyte> then you have done something to break things[21:23:57] <ag4ve> errr, wait - checked the wrong person's maildir - lemme repeat that check in the right place now :P[21:33:51] <rob0> I ate it. Sorry.[21:34:05] <ag4ve> ok nm, i see it - thanks[21:35:20] *** MinetestForFun has quit IRC[21:36:47] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[21:37:04] <gusto> ah yes, and another problem is too[21:38:00] <gusto> I have a virtual_uid_map and virtual_gid_map for a domain, but it searches for a user[21:38:26] <gusto> do I have to have am gid uid map for each user?[21:38:47] <gusto> I can do that by connecting that to the SQL database too, by creating a view or something, but that's crap[21:43:25] *** penk has joined #postfix[21:49:02] *** skweek has joined #postfix[21:55:23] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:02:08] *** roo_ has joined #postfix[22:02:59] *** roo_ is now known as roo[22:05:36] <rob0> It's not crap, it's better security. For a less secure approach, see the example here:[22:05:45] <rob0> !tell gusto virtual[22:05:45] <knoba> gusto: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and mailboxes that do not require individual system accounts. See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[22:06:27] <gusto> yes[22:06:38] <gusto> that's why I am doing it[22:06:46] <gusto> the problem is my UID mapping per domain[22:06:47] <gusto> lol[22:07:46] <rob0> that's how I did it, UID per domain/domain-owner, a shared GID for all[22:07:53] <gusto> but[22:08:05] *** arinov_ has joined #postfix[22:08:07] <gusto> is it possible to use regular expression there?[22:08:17] <gusto> because it only says that it will ignore some like $1[22:08:35] <gusto> but the question would be what kind of regular expression (pcre?) it does take, hm[22:09:00] <gusto> rob0, lol, pastebin the code! LOL![22:09:27] <lunaphyte> you can test it yourself with postmap[22:09:30] <rob0> !factoids search sqlite[22:09:30] <knoba> rob0: 'sqlite' and 'sqlite_howto'[22:09:35] <lunaphyte> and see database_readme[22:09:39] *** xBytez has quit IRC[22:09:39] <rob0> !sqlite_howto[22:09:39] <knoba> rob0: "sqlite_howto" : rob0 here has written a multi-address-class howto for Postfix and Dovecot using a sqlite3 data backend: http://rob0.nodns4.us/howto/[22:09:48] <gusto> yes, I am using sqlite too[22:09:58] <rob0> unmaintained and out of date regarding DNSBLs[22:11:10] <gusto> hm[22:11:18] <gusto> interesting configuration file there[22:11:47] *** arinov has quit IRC[22:12:59] <gusto> well[22:13:07] <gusto> what you have done there was my Plan B[22:13:21] <gusto> because that is mapping over SQL database and putting the things together there[22:13:59] <rob0> The main point of that for me was to learn a bit about SQL database planning.[22:16:17] <gusto> yes[22:16:19] <gusto> I see[22:16:24] <gusto> great, lol[22:17:10] <gusto> however, I am actually quite good at testing here[22:17:28] <gusto> I take one last shot at my problem no 1[22:17:49] <gusto> I ll try to make two different relay services and put them explicitly into the transport for realy_transport[22:17:53] <gusto> maybe that would help[22:18:27] <gusto> or even cooler would be to make the postfix ipv6 only service and connect it to opensmtpd for ipv4 relay[22:22:19] *** xBytez has joined #postfix[22:22:19] *** xBytez has joined #postfix[22:26:58] *** blackroot has quit IRC[22:27:43] *** mikecmpbll has joined #postfix[22:27:52] *** puhuri has quit IRC[22:28:01] *** puhuri has joined #postfix[22:30:30] *** blackroot has joined #postfix[22:32:10] *** internat has quit IRC[22:32:29] *** internat has joined #postfix[22:44:04] <gusto> smtp_bind_address6 (default: empty)[22:44:11] <gusto> Note 2: address information may be enclosed inside [], but this form is not recommended here.[22:44:51] <gusto> postfix/smtp[74476]: fatal: smtp_connect_addr: bad smtp_bind_address6 parameter: [ ipv6 address here ... ] : hostname nor servname provided, or not known[22:44:52] <gusto> lol[22:45:10] <lunaphyte> eh?[22:45:12] <gusto> without the [] it works[22:50:40] *** jwing has quit IRC[22:56:08] *** FinboySlick has quit IRC[23:04:36] *** skweek has quit IRC[23:06:19] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[23:07:34] *** fornax has joined #postfix[23:09:26] <gusto> hm[23:09:51] <gusto> there seems to be no way how to disable the ipv4 smtp_bind_address for a smtp client in a option?[23:14:28] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[23:28:37] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[23:33:50] *** dstarh has quit IRC[23:36:38] *** MacWinner has joined #postfix[23:38:48] *** infides has quit IRC[23:43:27] *** fornax has quit IRC[23:46:27] *** penk has quit IRC[23:48:08] *** RaiNerTsuFal has quit IRC[23:51:33] *** RaiNerTsuFal has joined #postfix[23:55:16] <gusto> well[23:56:05] <gusto> so running it ipv6 only is quite a good idea also with combination of a parameter smtp_fallback_relay[23:56:15] <gusto> as long as it is ipv6 address[23:56:39] <gusto> so basically I ll need a openntpd proxy/relay and then I am done[23:56:40] <gusto> lol[23:57:56] <rob0> IPv6 only email? You're going to be cut off from a large majority of the Internet.